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    Default Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Tony has asked me to post this.



    Why I have left the forum.

    I have to leave the forum as I do not want to be the cause of disharmony, or bring the Dharma into disrepute. I'm not angry – but I am sad that the world is in such a bad state, and we are trying to find a way to help one another...but people are still choosing to be so negative.

    For example, there is a thread about, let's say, how a cheese sandwich could be made, and someone keeps coming onto a thread and saying, “I don't like sandwiches!” Not only that, but they are telling people that cheese sandwiches are bad for their health!

    That is not a discussion about how a cheese sandwich could be made. These are pointless, self-obsessed remarks. If you don't like cheese sandwiches, go to what attracts you - that would be a positive action. Whether you personally like sandwiches or not was not the topic of this OP!

    A couple of individuals frequently try to disrupt threads I write, because they do not like my approach. And they are unable to let it be. Their reactions are antagonistic, and destroy the flow of a thread, so others who may come along later cannot follow a logical flow of discussion.
    I have had to bring this type of action to the forum's notice before. I have spoken to the individuals about this on PMs, but this is still happening. These are not discussions: these are wilful attempts to break up the thread. My main concern is it drags others into thinking the same way.

    If you wish to see this in action, analyse the thread, 'Buddhism in a nutshell'.

    These are not positive actions,: they are negative actions.
    This negativity creates problems on the forum – it does nothing to solve them. It is a pointless destructive activity.
    The sad thing is the moderators see this and do nothing: maybe it's too subtle.

    Buddhism is such a vast subject, and I can only give people a glimpse at what it is. The true Dharma will not be found in books or on websites.
    A true knowledge of the Dharma is found in the practice. To find out about this, one has to go to a Dharma centre.

    The point is, how will you know that you have a choice, if it is not presented to you? That is why I write.
    I have to leave the forum as I do not want to be the cause of disharmony, or bring the Dharma into disrepute.

    I've made some really fabulous friends here...So long, and thanks for all the fish!

    All the best,
    Tony

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Tony will be missed to be sure.

    Wish you well pie guy


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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.



    Thank you for your bountiful servings!




    March on. Do not tarry. To go forward is to move toward perfection. March on, and fear not the thorns, or the sharp stones on life's path.
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    .... be gentle with your anger. Sixto Rodriguez, Cape Town 20.02.2013

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    I'll be sorry to see Pie go as well. Didn't want to add him to the resignations list. OMG he's now 321. Pity, I imagine he can easily out smart any mischief-makers and they're substantially outnumbered on Avalon. They must be having a hard time in these rising energies! Keep calm and carry on (and take no notice). Expecting a leaving party on the Hayward roof garden Tony.
    Oh my ears and whiskers, how late it's getting!

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    That genuinely sucks. And I fully understand his choice. It really is getting to down and dirty time when it comes to the actions of the agents for the mind virus these days, isn't it? That was bound to happen in the last gasp.

    Peace and joy ever rising walk with you, Tony. *waves, smiling*

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    I am a practicing Buddhist. I did not click on this thread because there is no nutshell to me for Buddhism. I have no problem with someone trying. My experience is that doing nutshell creates less understanding.

    That being said I will miss Pie'n'eal and I do not agree with him that leaving serves any purpose. I will go and read the thread and comment more later.
    Beware the axis of sanctimony.

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Tony,

    You will be missed for sure with your thought provoking posts. Glad to have crossed paths with you and be well.

    Lou


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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    'tony get your backside back here where its needed'

    much love

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    This is a great shame, Pi'neal had a unique style and contributed a lot of worthwhile content-c'mon back Tony
    just ignore the petty minded Negatoids!
    Cheers

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Enough of this....he will be missed!

    "If you are irritated by every rub, how will your mirror be polished?"- Rumi

    Come back and do some more rubbing!

    Okay, that´s ego talking.
    Whatever your choice, I have learnt much from you and for that I am very grateful.
    Thank you for popping into my paradigm and see you in the next one.


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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Dear pie'n'eal/Tony,
    No profound words spilling out just a wishing you continued health, love and lots of belly laughter!
    Peace and with heart,
    WhiteCrowBlackDeer

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Looking for that quote about "... good [wo]men doing nothing," I ran into this which is more applicable:

    Burke in his Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents (1770): "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

    Sorry you ended up getting baked on the stake.
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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Quote Posted by Tarka the Duck (here)
    Tony has asked me to post this.
    Dear Tarka the Duck,
    I hope you are doing okay. My guess is that you are feeling the loss of a dear PA Friend and Teacher. I'm thinking of you.
    Peace,
    WhiteCrowBlackDeer
    ................................................

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Hello All - and thanks for the good wishes for Tony. He sends them right back at ya

    I just want to reiterate...he is NOT leaving because he's got the 'ump!
    He's not leaving because he can't deal with the Negatoids (love that word, Galaxy Horse!)!

    He's leaving because there are a couple of people on here who seem to be profoundly disturbed by what he is writing.
    They are unable to resist relentlessly taking pot shots and having sly digs ! He doesn't wish to be the cause of the irritation they clearly feel.
    PMs haven't solved the issue...and he's had a fair few nasty ones to deal with !

    As you probably know, he has really really enjoyed being on this forum (I think he's probably written something most days unless we were travelling) and chewing the cud with you all: he says it's been an invaluable experience and a huge learning process, and he is grateful for that.

    None of us know what the future holds, but in the meantime, it's spring and the garden is calling...

    Kathie

    PS for anyone who wants to keep in touch, the mods have his email.
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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Tony we will Miss You!

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    I definitely understand Tony and he's one of the people whose posts were meaningful and productive for me.

    I also really feel disharmonius and negative in this forum and this even showed itself in my latest posts. I've been reading & writing in various forums for nearly 12 years and this is something I'm not used to.

    So, agreed with Tony on departure and this is the last post you'll see from Feritciva. Bye all and take good care of yourselves.

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Always enjoyed your posts and always learned somethng as well.
    You have obvious wisdom, only gained from decades of study, you will be sorely missed around here.
    Your plethera of knowledge is needed dearly at this time, Tony.
    Good luck on your journey, brother.

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Dear Tony, Mr. Pie if you will.
    I know I am new here and you probably won't read this post anyways, but if someone does read it and gives you my message it is this.

    I am sorry for the negativity that you felt, and I can understand your desire to stop posting. Why would one want to keep coming back to snide comments, and nonconstructive criticism? It is neither healthy or productive. But with that said,
    I believe your absence here does more harm than good. But that is just me being sad.
    Your posts actually helped me a lot.
    I wish we could of talked more


    David.

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    When I was a child, my brothers and I used to sword fight. You could choose to fence like a gentleman, hedge and stab like a roman legionnaire, or hack hack hack like a barbarian or berserker. The Roman legionnaire was dead boring, and when one maintained the gentlemanly stance, the barbarian always won.

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    Default Re: Why Pie'n'eal has left the forum.

    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Tony will be missed to be sure.

    Wish you well pie guy


    Attachment 14612
    Looking for that laugh button again.

    Sorry to see anyone driven away by wretched minds. To Pie'neal and Feritciva, please consider this, you leave, the negatoids win.

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