We Need to Depopulate the Earth

[S-L]

We need to depopulate this world through compassionate means. Our industrial and technological development have brought blessings to the world. We've also brought the seeds of our own annihilation. We are an environmental burden to this planet. We need to shift our relationship with this world. The keyword is sustainability. Is your lifestyle sustainable? Is our human civilization sustainable?

The need is there. The need is now! And yesterday. If we do not depopulate willingly through compassionate means, it will be forced upon us by nature's reckoning. We need to think about the future. Our future. Your future. This generation and the next.

The world will inevitably hit 9 billion. Environmental degradation through years of abuse will leave this world unable to feed humanity. Adjustments will have to be made. It would be advantageous for humanity to be proactive in this matter. History predicts humanity will busy itself looking at its navel instead. Wise ones once said: "If humanity cannot learn in times of prosperity, it will learn in times of despair." We will learn out of necessity.

How will we reduce our population once it becomes apparent we must do so? Do we really need 7 billion people on this planet? Or 9? Why? The more the merrier? Gaia is Great, but she is limited. We must reduce population numbers to a more manageable 1 or 2 billion. Is this a crime against humanity, or a gift to the same? Why does human civilization need the most people possible? Resource constraints beg for a different answer. A more sensible answer. A highly educated and motivated set of 1 or 2 billion people would be far more effective than a destitute 9 billion poverty stricken humans. Sustainability is not an option - one of many. It is the only option. Either we are sustainable, or we are dead. The choice is obvious.

How will this be achieved?

[Lost Soul]

Are you killing yourself for humanity's sake? After all, lead by example.

More seriously, how long have you been with TPTW?

[Solstyse]

That's rich saying we need to depopulate for Gaia for her own good, I got news for you, if we humans ruin earth so much that we can't live here anymore, Gaia will still be going strong, with or without us. Hell she would probably like it better if we weren't crawling all over her. I keep calling earth her. Not sure why. HA

What you should be saying is , we need to depopulate for our Own good.
Which I don't agree with either but seems like a more logical phrase.

[Sloppyjoe]

We don't need to de-populate we just need to spread out our existing population. The way we have living area's is stupid, we pack millions of people into small places while there are hundreds of miles of land unoccupied.

[Cilka]

S-L, if you care so much about our population killing this planet, then why did you choose to be born? You should have thought about it before you made that decision to be born. It's kind of too late for that, isn't it?
Just let nature do its thing, she knows what she needs to do. If she feels that 7 billion of us is too much to handle then she will find a way to take care of that problem.
Hopefully, you are not suggesting a mass killing of humans while letting yourself live.

[WhiteFeather]

If all the technology thats being held back by the upper hierarchy was exposed and released, we would rely less on the resources we use. Thus in turn it would benefit our planet tremendously. Thereby IMO Depopulation wouldn't be necessary. Just look at the venus project model. www.thevenusproject.com its a start in the right direction.

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Lost Soul (here)
More seriously, how long have you been with TPTW?

I'm wondering the same thing......

As for the population thing, it's an absolute myth. NASA I think it was or JPL or some university anyway did a study and found out our planet is capable if we stop destroying this planet and its resources it's capable of with consideration of using free energy etc, Sustaining a population of 44 BILLION, though on our current "usage" it is capable of sustaining about 11 Billion.

Right now if we took all 7 Billion, we could put them all in the state of Texas, and each individual would have 2 and 1/2 acres each.

[S-L]

It's unfortunate that sustainability is associated with "TPTB". Depopulation has been associated with the ruling cabal. It sets off red flags, doesn't it? Should red flags go up when a civilization decides to intelligently manage its numbers? Is it not an obvious thing to do? We live on a finite planet. The numbers are irrelevant. If you can accept that we live on a finite planet, then it is inevitable that we cannot grow our numbers infinitely. If you can accept that, then you can accept the premise of population control.

Why is this so shocking? The idea of sustainability is shocking to you? It is shocking to me that you are shocked by the notion. Can an unlimited number of deers be supported by a forest? Or rabbits? Or anything? Are humans so different? We have technology, yes. But it only engenders a need for more resources. I want to see humanity thrive. I want to see it sustainable. The numbers are questionable - I will not argue them. But the idea of human population control must be seriously considered. If you do not agree to this, then you are suicidal. As a species, if we do not agree to some form of population limit or control, then we are suicidal. It is so irresponsible. The resources are finite. How can we have infinite population growth?

[music]

This is an incredibly suspect post. There is no way we can consider depopulation without becoming less than human, let alone the withering of our souls that would result should we actively promote this NWO agenda item. There are more and more NWO ideas being promoted here, both covertly and overtly, and this activity has only just begun. Discernment, Avalon - when the intellect and the heart are at odds, it is always the intellect that is mistaken.

[S-L]

Posted by music (here)
This is an incredibly suspect post. There is no way we can consider depopulation without becoming less than human, let alone the withering of our souls that would result should we actively promote this NWO agenda item. There are more and more NWO ideas being promoted here, both covertly and overtly, and this activity has only just begun. Discernment, Avalon - when the intellect and the heart are at odds, it is always the intellect that is mistaken.

This is ridiculous. If all couples decided to have one child rather than two or more - this would depopulate the earth. Do you consider this less than human? In a world of declining resources, not doing this or something akin to this is cruel to the generations to come.

[apokalypse]

the whole population issue thing nothing but Myth and TPTB creations... we already have alot of technology on mainstream right now but haven't using it and enought resources goes around. on Mainstream we suppose to have free energery but these TPTB suppress and kill the people who invented it. we can debate on Zeitgeist movement but one thing from their video they doing great job of laying out the problems so much resources have been wasted like ipad 3 release soon and old ipad2 soon to be in the bin or new motherboard release every year and old board became obsolete.

this just pop into my head...it's damn clear that Current system can't support 7 Billion people on this planet not planet earth can't support 7 billion...the problem is the system not the people-planet earth or not enough resources. every time i see people pointing finger at the Population just piss me off...

[S-L]

Posted by apokalypse (here)
the whole population issue thing nothing but Myth and TPTB creations... we already have alot of technology on mainstream right now but haven't using it and enought resources goes around. on Mainstream we suppose to have free energery but these TPTB suppress and kill the people who invented it. we can debate on Zeitgeist movement but one thing from their video they doing great job of laying out the problems so much resources have been wasted like ipad 3 release soon and old ipad2 soon to be in the bin or new motherboard release every year and old board became obsolete.

So... this planet and this solar system have unlimited resources? That's what you're saying, I hope you realize this. All I'm saying is that we live on a finite planet with finite resources. I am arguing for a sustainable future. At some point, population control will have to factor into that equation. If you think otherwise, then you haven't quite thought the problem through.

[music]

Posted by S-L (here)

Posted by music (here)
This is an incredibly suspect post. There is no way we can consider depopulation without becoming less than human, let alone the withering of our souls that would result should we actively promote this NWO agenda item. There are more and more NWO ideas being promoted here, both covertly and overtly, and this activity has only just begun. Discernment, Avalon - when the intellect and the heart are at odds, it is always the intellect that is mistaken.

This is ridiculous. If all couples decided to have one child rather than two or more - this would depopulate the earth. Do you consider this less than human? In a world of declining resources, not doing this or something akin to this is cruel to the generations to come.

Then you are talking about slowing population growth, not depopulation. I doubt the method you suggest will ever gets us back to the 2 billion mark, but maybe my maths is just no good?

[S-L]

Posted by music (here)

Posted by S-L (here)

Posted by music (here)
This is an incredibly suspect post. There is no way we can consider depopulation without becoming less than human, let alone the withering of our souls that would result should we actively promote this NWO agenda item. There are more and more NWO ideas being promoted here, both covertly and overtly, and this activity has only just begun. Discernment, Avalon - when the intellect and the heart are at odds, it is always the intellect that is mistaken.

This is ridiculous. If all couples decided to have one child rather than two or more - this would depopulate the earth. Do you consider this less than human? In a world of declining resources, not doing this or something akin to this is cruel to the generations to come.

Then you are talking about slowing population growth, not depopulation. I doubt the method you suggest will ever gets us back to the 2 billion mark, but maybe my maths is just no good?

After a few generations, this will equate to substantial depopulation.

[gripreaper]

I wasn't going to jump into this thread, but I digress. It's Friday night and I'm not going out.

The basic premise that we live on a finite planet is false. This planet is hugely abundant. The energetic matrix, that which comprises all things, is infinite and manifestation occurs based on how we interact with this matrix. The idea of a finite earth is perpetuated by the elite oligarchs whose agenda is furthered by scarcity. Just because their fiat debt money system works on cannibalizing the resources indiscriminately does not justify the preponderance of the "lack" paradigm which they are selling.

Release the "free energy" technologies which have been in existence since Nicola Tesla discovered them over 100 years ago and your whole scarcity paradigm goes up in smoke. It is the elite who benefit from this paradigm and we have been sold a bill of goods.

I'm not buying it.

[S-L]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
I wasn't going to jump into this thread, but I digress.

The basic premise that we live on a finite planet is false. This planet is hugely abundant. The energetic matrix, that which comprises all things, is infinite and manifestation occurs based on how we interact with this matrix. The idea of a finite earth is perpetuated by the elite oligarchs whose agenda is furthered by scarcity. Just because their fiat debt money system works on cannibalizing the resources indiscriminately does not justify the preponderance of the "lack" paradigm which they are selling.

Release the "free energy" technologies which have been in existence since Nicola Tesla discovered them over 100 years ago and your whole scarcity paradigm goes up in smoke. It is the elite who benefit from this paradigm and we have been sold a bill of goods.

I'm not buying it.

First of all, you're not using the word "digress" correctly. If you're wrong about this basic thing, then I want you to open your mind to the possibility of being wrong about a bigger thing.

The basic premise about living on a finite planet is false? Are you mad? The world is an island - floating in space. The world is abundant yes, but it is also very much finite. Ask the Easter Islanders. Let me guess... they were not manifesting properly and so failed to benefit from the infinite abundance of the energy matrix?

Are your mad?

[xeon]

7 billion might be a very big figure, but I think the whole issue is not that, but the withholding of technology that can sustain that 7 billion and more.

The argument that this earth is too small to sustain human population is also not really valid, simply because if "they" actually openly develop the technology to fly out of this planet, there are plenty of planets out there that can accommodate humans.

None of these will be realized as long as this planet is in lockdown mode by the corporations that control our lives and world finance.....

[cheez_2806]

Posted by apokalypse (here)
this just pop into my head...it's damn clear that Current system can't support 7 Billion people on this planet not planet earth can't support 7 billion...the problem is the system not the people-planet earth or not enough resources. every time i see people pointing finger at the Population just piss me off...

can't agree with this more!

[S-L]

Posted by xeon (here)
7 billion might be a very big figure, but I think the whole issue is not that, but the withholding of technology that can sustain that 7 billion and more.

The argument that this earth is too small to sustain human population is also not really valid, simply because if "they" actually openly develop the technology to fly out of this planet, there are plenty of planets out there that can accommodate humans.

None of these will be realized as long as this planet is in lockdown mode by the corporations that control our lives and world finance.....

Can the planet sustain an infinite human population? 100 trillion humans, perhaps? Why not more? If you can accept that the planet cannot sustain more than 100 trillion humans, then at some point you must accept the inevitability of human population control. At some point. That point is arguable, but the premise is not.

[Solstyse]

Posted by S-L (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
I wasn't going to jump into this thread, but I digress.

The basic premise that we live on a finite planet is false. This planet is hugely abundant. The energetic matrix, that which comprises all things, is infinite and manifestation occurs based on how we interact with this matrix. The idea of a finite earth is perpetuated by the elite oligarchs whose agenda is furthered by scarcity. Just because their fiat debt money system works on cannibalizing the resources indiscriminately does not justify the preponderance of the "lack" paradigm which they are selling.

Release the "free energy" technologies which have been in existence since Nicola Tesla discovered them over 100 years ago and your whole scarcity paradigm goes up in smoke. It is the elite who benefit from this paradigm and we have been sold a bill of goods.

I'm not buying it.

First of all, you're not using the word "digress" correctly. If you're wrong about this basic thing, then I want you to open your mind to the possibility of being wrong about a bigger thing.

The basic premise about living on a finite planet is false? Are you mad? The world is an island - floating in space. The world is abundant yes, but it is also very much finite. Ask the Easter Islanders. Let me guess... they were not manifesting properly and so failed to benefit from the infinite abundance of the energy matrix?

Are your mad?

HEHEH then you go and use island improperly. Or metaphorically. Either way.
And he could be using digress properly.
He is wandering off his own path of not wanting to post on this thread, to go in a new direction of posting on this thread. Seems like general digress to me.