Powerful Disclosure

[christian]

What if some of the genuinely benign ones would just make a very clear appearance for the world to see and say "you got all the tools to create peace and abundance on this planet, figure it out, choose wisely and heartfelt" and then they'd leave right after saying "then we can move on from there together".

I find this would provide a huge opportunity as a catalyzer to open a lot of people's minds towards considering new possibilities and remembering their true potential.

This thread is about a more appropriate alternative to the "we come and save your sorry asses" scenario, which seems to be desired by some and scorned by many.

[Awakened]

Great idea, but most would debunk the appearance and/or analyze it to death. Others would attempt to explain it and others would simply dismiss it because they wouldn't believe it.

[Solstyse]

After some more thourough reading. I reiterate what I have previously said. if there are aliens affecting earth stuffs I say stop it and leave us alone.
Others have said " they have saved mankind numerous times, so saying for them to leave is irresponsible"
But yet if they did save us wouldn't that be affecting our "free will" the same load of crap they give us when asked why don't they come in and stop all the crap that is going on.
Bottom line it is time for the human race to sink or swim on it's own.
No more crutches no more aliens!

[Cilka]

Posted by Solstyse (here)
After some more thourough reading. I reiterate what I have previously said. if there are aliens affecting earth stuffs I say stop it and leave us alone.
Others have said " they have saved mankind numerous times, so saying for them to leave is irresponsible"
But yet if they did save us wouldn't that be affecting our "free will" the same load of crap they give us when asked why don't they come in and stop all the crap that is going on.
Bottom line it is time for the human race to sink or swim on it's own.
No more crutches no more aliens!

You just spoke my words. I have been saying the same, the aliens MUST go, and humans MUST grow up and clean up their own s--t.

[Erich]

I'm human. If there are benevolent ETs and I ask them to help me fix some of the problems here on Earth than I am doing it and therefore all xenophobic stupidity would not be germane.

[loc333]

you took the words out of my mouth. the have been here forever and there not gonna show up untill we act like grown ups(spiritually awekend)...which aint gonna happen for a while.

[Solstyse]

I am not xenophobic in the slightest. I have no answers and my mind is always open to new ideas and interpretations.
But if there have been aliens since the beginning, all signs point to them not being benevolent, but manipulative instead.
I don't like being manipulated by unseen forces, isn't that what the NWO is doing? Manipulating behind the scenes.
Either show up or go away.
The time is now.

[Cjay]

I was born and grew up in Australia, where people from all over the world came for a chance to have a better life. If we want a better life for all of us, we need to stop thinking of what makes us separate or different and start thinking about what makes us connected and the same.

We are all connected. Every living thing in the universe. Every rock. Every drop of water. Every soul.

We need all the help we can get, even if only tuition and guidance.

[Patrikas]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
What if some of the genuinely benign ones would just make a very clear appearance for the world to see and say "you got all the tools to create peace and abundance on this planet, figure it out, choose wisely and heartfelt" and then they'd leave right after saying "then we can move on from there together".

I find this would provide a huge opportunity as a catalyzer to open a lot of people's minds towards considering new possibilities and remembering their true potential.

This thread is about a more appropriate alternative to the "we come and save your sorry asses" scenario, which seems to be desired by some and scorned by many.

I think M.J said it best with his man in the mirror lyrics........note to self............start here

[Erich]

Posted by Solstyse (here)
I am not xenophobic in the slightest. I have no answers and my mind is always open to new ideas and interpretations.
But if there have been aliens since the beginning, all signs point to them not being benevolent, but manipulative instead.
I don't like being manipulated by unseen forces, isn't that what the NWO is doing? Manipulating behind the scenes.
Either show up or go away.
The time is now.

OK, sounds good. They should show up and stop playing games if they are really here.

[crosby]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
What if some of the genuinely benign ones would just make a very clear appearance for the world to see and say "you got all the tools to create peace and abundance on this planet, figure it out, choose wisely and heartfelt" and then they'd leave right after saying "then we can move on from there together".

I find this would provide a huge opportunity as a catalyzer to open a lot of people's minds towards considering new possibilities and remembering their true potential.

This thread is about a more appropriate alternative to the "we come and save your sorry asses" scenario, which seems to be desired by some and scorned by many.

chiquetet, i am all for change in this world. without bunk! my greatest hope is they will do this very thing. show themselves, let peace be prevalent, and let us see that there is an aspiration that is ours to have for the taking. thank you.
warmest regards, corson

[Kristo]

The reality of ETs and all that encompassed fell upon me slowly like a warm blanket, as I was ready for the information. I see now it happened as it did as to not infringe upon my free will, which is a Universal Law in our 3D reality we've chosen to incarnate in. My own spirit guides/ guardian angels/ higher self, whichever term you use~ intuitied to me they are, in fact, ExtraCelestials.... This seed was planted and it was up to me to decide if I wanted to accept it as truth. From what I understand any such announcement will be like mine~ nothing 'In your face' which would infringe upon people's free will, as obviously some people are not ready and that is fine. Do I want disclosure? Hell yes, as it would awaken so many to a plethora of truths. But, I believe it will fall upon people as a warm blanket when they are ready

[EC1000]

I will always be very curious about aliens and all the behind the scenes stuff but the fact of the matter is that many of thme have likely been around millions of years more than us and they are going to do whatever they want to do no matter how much we may protest it. Who really knows what their reasons are? Who really knows anything? This lifetime is nothing more than a grain of sand in the beach of enternity that is our soul. Having said that, i think it would be cool if some friendly, advanced aliens came down and shared their knowledge with us but i don't want to be whisked away to some "better" place by anyone; even though there are alot of what i consider horrible things that occur on this planet, i like my life, i'll take the alien info if they ever want to share but i'll keep my family, cheeseburgers, sex, beer and rock and roll.

[NewFounderHome]

Posted by Awakened (here)
Great idea, but most would debunk the appearance and/or analyze it to death. Others would attempt to explain it and others would simply dismiss it because they wouldn't believe it.

Yes, but life is already like that. So what would be different. So it would do something different for a change. It will hurt, but there are plenty of things that hurt right now in life. So!!!

[NewFounderHome]

Posted by Solstyse (here)
After some more thourough reading. I reiterate what I have previously said. if there are aliens affecting earth stuffs I say stop it and leave us alone.
Others have said " they have saved mankind numerous times, so saying for them to leave is irresponsible"
But yet if they did save us wouldn't that be affecting our "free will" the same load of crap they give us when asked why don't they come in and stop all the crap that is going on.
Bottom line it is time for the human race to sink or swim on it's own.
No more crutches no more aliens!

I would say, let all the truth come out and only then can we take a decision, for the moment we might not all have the complete picture to take a good decision. Some seem to want to play god's or top controller, a kind of top of the line power trip. There are so many different story's out there to intentionally send us off track or in the wrong direction or to keep us going in round, it is not even funny. I suspect many stories are falls to keep us focused on something else or to keep us busy so we can not hit the nail on the head. and go a head.

[christian]

Posted by Awakened (here)
Most would debunk the appearance and/or analyze it to death. Others would attempt to explain it and others would simply dismiss it because they wouldn't believe it.

What would you do in the case I described?

I'm thinking of an huge event, the impact of which could not be denied, I mean how could you debunk it, if virtually everyone would witnes it? I think the majority would hold their breath for a second and do look in the mirror and maybe get it, that we had power all along and that we are free to take and use it to create whatever we choose.

Posted by EC1000 (here)
they are going to do whatever they want to do no matter how much we may protest it. Who really knows what their reasons are? Who really knows anything? This lifetime is nothing more than a grain of sand in the beach of enternity that is our soul.

I'm very ambiguous about protesting against something, as from one perspective it perpetuates whatever it is, that one protests against. It's what Fuller said “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

Or in other words, it's about standing one's ground assertively. Don't like criminal elites? Don't like GMO's? Don't like slavery? Don't support it! Wanna live in harmony with the earth and other beings? Go for it! We as self aware beings have always the ability to make a difference in any situation, even if it only changes one grain of sand. Each one's influence individually may seem insignificant, but it's all that is possible for the individual, it's the only way to have a say.

Zooming in on whatever one does individually, it appears to be as meaningful and as infinite as the whole cosmos and zooming out it is the most minute change in the flow of all-that-is. It is magic either way.

[EC1000]

Posted by chiquetet (here)
We as self aware beings have always the ability to make a difference in any situation, even if it only changes one grain of sand. Each one's influence individually may seem insignificant, but it's all that is possible for the individual, it's the only way to have a say.

Zooming in on whatever one does individually, it appears to be as meaningful and as infinite as the whole cosmos and zooming out it is the most minute change in the flow of all-that-is. It is magic either way.

true that. good points.