This Higher dimension business............

[pixiestix]

It is my understanding that we should all strive for higher spiritual awareness, increase our vibrational levels, through love, move through the dimensions 4th and onward (if we choose to).
Why then are what we perceive as the bad guys (reptoids etc) found in the 4th and up to the 7th dimensions. Is it just through their technology?
I've read we actually stay in the 3rd dimension but increase our vibration levels to rise through higher and higher density (frequency) levels.

[sirdipswitch]

pixiestix

I used to feel the same as you. So many people talking about raising your vibrations and all that stuff. I started looking for truth, 40 years ago. But, didn't find it untill someone finally wrote a book that I could understand, without having to adopt some wierd religeon, to accomplish my goal. A couple of years ago I stumbled across two books written by William Buhlman called; Adventures Beyond The Body, and The Secret Of The Soul, and they are the best that I have found in fourty years of searching for a simple method of achieving Astral Projection. I like simple. He has been doing out of body travel for over 30 years, and also teaches it. Out of Body Experience, (oobe) is the only way to find out who you are, where you came from and where we will all go in the end. Don't worry we have a bunch of time left. hee hee. This body, is NOT who you really are. You are an Imortal Spiritual Being, and NOTHING can harm you. We are just here to have a physical experience. And we like it here, we're having loads of fun with it, thats why we keep comming back. I promise, when you go astral, your perception of everything will change

Okay now, I would like to explain something that I have noticed, that William dosen't really cover, to a great extent is what we can expect to see, when we cross over. I don't know how much you read on this subject, but I've been reading about it for most of my life, and I've read as many differrent experiences as ther are books to read. William has the testimoies of over 16,000 people who have done OOBE's and they're all differrent.
That which he does stress, is where to go, and that is to talk with your Higher Self, and wit Source, yep that Source. The One that made it all Source. You won't want to come back. I didn't. Nobody did. But, it seems that we are not finished here yet. hee hee.

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me. I would be more than happy to help if I can.

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[GlassSteagallfan]

Using a pdf searcher, I found this link for ebook 'Adventures Beyond The Body, William Buhlman' , 140 pages.

Clicking on the link will open up the ebook in your pdf viewer

http://www.cybercauldron.co.uk/wp-co...dy-Travel2.pdf

[Dennis Leahy]

sirdipswitch, until I get a chance to read those books, can you tell me if you have read the Michael Newton material (which is the distillation the hypnotic memory recall sessions of "between lives" memories of 7,000 to 10,000 people?) If so, are the experiences described identical (within a range), similar, or dissimilar? Dolores Canon's material seems to fall in the same range of experience/memories as Newton's patients.

Thanks!

Dennis

[Wind]

I can't recommend enough Michael Newton's books. Fantastic and reasonable stuff!

[Solstyse]

The problem I keep coming across in my mind ( our own mind might be out biggest enemy ) is that if we as a whole try to up our vibrations so we can move up to the 4th density, well the NWO is currently winning and their vibrations obviously way out weigh our own. Until we can change our society we will never ascend. If there is a war we are losing.

[another bob]

One of the very cool playgrounds waiting for us, once we've outgrown this one:

http://www.space.com/14930-star-clus...telescope.html

[Solstyse]

Posted by another bob (here)
One of the very cool playgrounds waiting for us, once we've outgrown this one:

http://www.space.com/14930-star-clus...telescope.html

That is a very cool link, but I am not too anxious to outgrow this playgrounds, still too much work to do.

[another bob]

Posted by Solstyse (here)

Posted by another bob (here)
One of the very cool playgrounds waiting for us, once we've outgrown this one:

http://www.space.com/14930-star-clus...telescope.html

That is a very cool link, but I am not too anxious to outgrow this playgrounds, still too much work to do.

All in their own good time, eh!

[Solstyse]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by Solstyse (here)

Posted by another bob (here)
One of the very cool playgrounds waiting for us, once we've outgrown this one:

http://www.space.com/14930-star-clus...telescope.html

That is a very cool link, but I am not too anxious to outgrow this playgrounds, still too much work to do.

All in their own good time, eh!

Indeed sir, indeed.

[tonius]

I guess one day we will discover it was never about vibrating more, or shining ( as light) more, it was about how courageous we were to find our way back , on our own, on our terms, even when everyone else was trying to sell us guides on how to make it , or offering to give us a ride home. The truth is we are all orphans in this illusion ,and no one who sill is in this illusion, even in higher dimensions knows what it really is to be home, ''with a real family'', to be oneness . As for the reptoids ,they are just ''orphans'' like us gone wild, wich at some point, being tired of searching their way back, had the ''genius'' idea of enslaving and using other ''orphans'', feeding on their energy , they have in fact created a humans farm, where you and me are being ''milked'' every day withought even seeing it. I guess it was thiers even the idea of dimensions and densities , wich i always call ''prison cells'' with better conditions where you go for ''good'' behaviour, on their terms, being it reptoids or higher densities' beings .

You may ask why so much doubt from me, when everyone seems to agree that thats the way things work, that there are densities, dimensions, rules including vibration , light, love etc... Well one answer of mine is, that i was born 28 years ago, i dont remember how i came here, how i appeared here, eventhough i felt always ''infinite'' inside everything outside pointed to the opposite, every day seems to be the day after which, tomorrow you discover, in some way you were being decived, beggining from the existence santa as a child to god as an adult.

Now, many explainations come to back up these generally agreed upon concepts, and i don't doubt that they are ''real'', as we are creators, but remember that if you consider yourself to be an INFINITE being than there is no reason for you to accept rules you never remember having agreed upon, you are being told you did once, but look again, YOU ARE BEING TOLD SO, so you were told about santa as a child and about god( in the ussual way religions see it) as an adult, and many other examples through centuries, the only real string to connect most events in human history, ar what is more common, is the string of deception. And that string can be strong on your neck as long as you give it power, as you are a creator , what you belive is true becomes such, if we really grasp our INFINITY we cant come to compromises about it, and if you would hear a voice from your ''future'' self, already ''home '', may come to you in your dreams ,
somthing like : You now know you are infinite , but for the sake of the cowardice still left in you, gift from years and years of living in fear, to really get the promotion you have some more obstacles , densities to go through. Thats the price for discovering finally what you are and still doubting it for the sake of a successful trip to other densities. Your fear of not making it, not graduating, or not vibrating enough is the same one fueling this ''supposed'' paths, as you really don't get it, you cant be INFINITE on others terms, never thought you could skip classes and home study, if you think you cant do it or worse dont try at all than you are at the same understanding as the ones you call ''asslep'', even they have their good reasons for following the ''rules'' or the ''common sense'' that so much common is not from a infinite point of view.

The fact we hear something, whatever it is, even in forums like this, doesn't make it necessary your path, and begining from the fact that we dont really remeber how it began at leat we can try to end it ( find our path) our way. I have my more or less precise ideas, all i know is i dont even bother thinking about densities or dimensions or vibration, thats playing by others rules, and if ''some day'' i discover i was the one i chose this, at least would have the ''satisfaction'' of trying in my own way, even with all the odds against me, one cant be a creator just by copying, a creation is something unique ,the other way is ''playing it safe''.

[pixiestix]

Thank you tonius for your perspective.
My thoughts are, on earth, during the creation process by 'whoever' we were hardwired with the codes of worship, openness to tutoring, and the will to follow. It does take effort and courage, I agree, to overcome that programming, and to look within ourselves for our personal answer.
I am sure we all agree there are many paths (choices) that return home. A structured (density/dimension) may be one of them. And like us wanting to help and share good things with each other, Benevolent entities (through their own agendas) may want to assist us and offer us tools for our journey.
My thoughts anyway (I'm sure they have been said before and more eloquently). Thanks again tonius, for your post. A reminder of who do 'I' want to chose to guide 'ME'.

[tonius]

pixiestix i understand what you are saying,
its not that i dont appreciate being helped, and as you said there are such benevolent beings, the thing is, as i see it , is that every time i get an answer from ''above'', about a question, for me is a missed opportunity to find my version of the truth. Because the moment one asks how all this works, and gets an answer, and makes it his own, writes on ''stone'' his future path, in this illusion just the fact you think thats the only way such it becomes. Maybe its my personal intuition, as much as i find interesting and informative what is being said around, i have this ''crazy'' idea that its less complicated as it seems to be presented.

The complications begin when the mechanics of the illusion are explained, forgetting to consider that maybe they are valid for the ones who belive blindly in it and that way assure its mantainance. people become experts in the mechanics of the illusion, and to have knowledge is good, but what about adding some of yours, your unique perspective. Why not pretend your ''god'' given right, as an infinite being, who lately discovered its true nature, to create a new path to where we all want to go. It may be true graduation through densities is for the ''moment'' the only way, but what stops you from ''daring'' to find a shortcut, and by this i dont mean ''the easy way'' but just acting from an infinite being point of view. Of course there will always be ''earthly'' souls or higher beings who will say thats not how it works, but thats what they say.

At the end of the day what i know, feel to be true, is that i am indeed infinite, and as much as i have red explenations on why and how i came here, honestly I DONT REMEMBER, dont know FIRST HAND, so at this point that ''daring'' i mentioned above becomes a powerfull way of creating, because at that point EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. I think we owe this to ourselves, at least try . Everything began from nothing, at some point this supposed path and set of rules were created, maybe its time to make things a little more interesting , after so many ''years'' of graduating in schools created by others and ''reading books'' written by others is time to take some courage.

Being in 3rd density doesnt mean anything to me, surley is not a ''holding back'' to what i can permit myself to ''dare'' thinking. This is a staring point, and who knows what will come out of it, and maybe at the finish line i will have to slap myself on the face for complicating things so much for myself, but maybe...maybe i will ''hug'' myself for such creativity.

Following all these supposed rules and ''tips'' on how to ''safely'' evolve in the right way, in this giant school of densities and exams seems too similar to the schools we have today. At least lets try invent some new games, this one is getting out of hand, we dont even know who started it.

[NancyV]

Posted by tonius (here)
pixiestix i understand what you are saying,
its not that i dont appreciate being helped, and as you said there are such benevolent beings, the thing is, as i see it , is that every time i get an answer from ''above'', about a question, for me is a missed opportunity to find my version of the truth. Because the moment one asks how all this works, and gets an answer, and makes it his own, writes on ''stone'' his future path, in this illusion just the fact you think thats the only way such it becomes. Maybe its my personal intuition, as much as i find interesting and informative what is being said around, i have this ''crazy'' idea that its less complicated as it seems to be presented.

The complications begin when the mechanics of the illusion are explained, forgetting to consider that maybe they are valid for the ones who belive blindly in it and that way assure its mantainance. people become experts in the mechanics of the illusion, and to have knowledge is good, but what about adding some of yours, your unique perspective. Why not pretend your ''god'' given right, as an infinite being, who lately discovered its true nature, to create a new path to where we all want to go. It may be true graduation through densities is for the ''moment'' the only way, but what stops you from ''daring'' to find a shortcut, and by this i dont mean ''the easy way'' but just acting from an infinite being point of view. Of course there will always be ''earthly'' souls or higher beings who will say thats not how it works, but thats what they say.

At the end of the day what i know, feel to be true, is that i am indeed infinite, and as much as i have red explenations on why and how i came here, honestly I DONT REMEMBER, dont know FIRST HAND, so at this point that ''daring'' i mentioned above becomes a powerfull way of creating, because at that point EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. I think we owe this to ourselves, at least try . Everything began from nothing, at some point this supposed path and set of rules were created, maybe its time to make things a little more interesting , after so many ''years'' of graduating in schools created by others and ''reading books'' written by others is time to take some courage.

Being in 3rd density doesnt mean anything to me, surley is not a ''holding back'' to what i can permit myself to ''dare'' thinking. This is a staring point, and who knows what will come out of it, and maybe at the finish line i will have to slap myself on the face for complicating things so much for myself, but maybe...maybe i will ''hug'' myself for such creativity.

Following all these supposed rules and ''tips'' on how to ''safely'' evolve in the right way, in this giant school of densities and exams seems too similar to the schools we have today. At least lets try invent some new games, this one is getting out of hand, we dont even know who started it.

I agree with you, Tonius. Cast aside all rules, paths and teachers. Follow your own intuition and never believe anyone besides yourself completely. That has been my path for the most part. I occasionally followed a guru or tried different methods of meditation to try to learn how to go out of body, but as soon as I had my first out of body experience which took me into the other dimensions, I threw out ALL rules, advice and experiences of others. I had read hundreds of spiritual books from many different religions and spiritual philosophies and none of them had much relevance at all as soon as I was successful in beginning my out of body travels. Certainly they helped me to know what the adventures of others were but your own travels are unique to you.

It's always been easy for me to reject others rules, regulations and advice and that's just my normal personality. Although studying so many paths was interesting, valuable and fun, it may have delayed me even longer in finally developing my own methods. It took me until I was about 34 years old to be successful in travelling in other dimensions and after many adventures, finally merging with the Source.... which is me. Since I am the Source and you are the Source, we can evolve/wake up to that fact in any way we choose and play the game so it's the most fun for us.

[sirdipswitch]

NancyV

You discribe my journey of the past 40 years. Thank You

Dennis Leahy

The case histories remembering past lives, are not even close to communion with, your Higher Self and Source.
You will not want to come back here. i didn't, nobody does, untill we were told that we are not finished.
I have since figured out the reason for this game we call life... nope, won't tell ya!
Have fun on your journey. I am!

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[HORIZONS]

Posted by another bob (here)
One of the very cool playgrounds waiting for us, once we've outgrown this one:

http://www.space.com/14930-star-clus...telescope.html

"Where no man has gone before" - very cool! Looking forward to star trekking to places like this

[Mu2143]

There is a Dualilty up to the 11th dimension