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    Default The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    After reading P.A. member, GlaSSsteagalfan's Thread HERE today, it gave me an idea, I'm not sure if Avalon's Admins and Mod's would pursue this, but i thought maybe perhaps they might give it a looksy or thought. It seems that Trolls from 3 Letter Government agency's such as (NSA, FBI, DHS, TSA, etc) may very well be poisoning forums, blogs etc. spreading Disinfo and causing chaos, animosity etc. among its members here and throughout the internt. Is this possible? Damn straight it is possible.

    A Quote By Glassteagalfan "Seems ALL of these cretins had the same block of IP addresses, emanating out of Oxnard, California. I don't believe in coincidences, so I had a another friend of mine in L.A. do some digging. Here's what he discovered. The block of IP addresses is conveniently in the locale of buildings where the NSA has it's offices in Oxnard California."

    My question to the forum and if at all possible/doable by the Mods/Admins (even though they have a lot on their plates already). Is there anyway we can check to see if these Oxnard Trolls are present on this forum as well. I'm sure it would take some doing, but just may be well worth it for all of its members in the long run. Maybe we can pull some of the weeds that are starting to grow here in our garden choking our valued plants. I think its time for a Weed and Feed Peeps. Or just a damn good enema. What do you think? LMK


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    Default Re: The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    You blew my cover.

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    Default Re: The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    I'll draw first blood. Mod's I'll burn my blood in a cup first with a heated copper wire. Check my IP Address 1st.

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    Default Re: The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    It doesn't matter if they are here, they are powerless. They can't change the way we think, the way we are, our hearts and minds. They lost sometime ago.
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    Default Re: The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    Absolutely assume they are here.

    Interesting article by Kevin Zeese says up to 1 out of 6 "protesters" may be undercover cops, and/or alphabet agency types. And, they don't just mingle, watch, and take notes - they may be the noisiest, most confrontational, protesters in the crowd:

    Infiltration To Disrupt, Divide And Mis-direct Are Widespread In Occupy - Part I

    Quote In the first five months, the Occupy Movement has had major victories and has altered the debate about the economy. People in the power structure and who hold different political views are pushing back with a traditional tool – infiltration. Across the country, Occupies are struggling with disruption and division, attacks on key persons, escalation of tactics to property damage and police conflict as well as misuse of websites and social media.
    As Part II of this discussion will show, infiltration is the norm in political movements in the United States. Occupy has many opponents likely to infiltrate to divide and destroy it beyond the usual law enforcement apparatus. Others include the corporations whose rule Occupy seeks to end, conservative right wing groups allied with corporate interests and other members of the power structure including non-profit organizations allied with either corporate-funded political party, especially the Democratic Party which would like Occupy to be their Tea Party rather than an independent movement critical of both parties.



    (continues)
    Part II is here.

    Note that they also infiltrate ALL online networking and discussion sites, to either simply destroy the infrastructure of the site if they can, or to do all of the 2012 upgraded versions of COINTELPRO.

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    WhiteFeather and my Avalonian Friends:

    I would like to get rid of them, and here's why:

    1. Many (I certainly do not say most) of us are here with sincere intentions. We attempt to answer all questions to all Members, as if, sincerely intentioned for the greater good of humanity. These first questions are always straight-forward enough, but then they get very technical, then back up their positions with extensive information, as if they are supported by the Library of Congress, the Vatican, and all the other computers at their disposal. They often leave everyone so confused, angry and frustrated, what started as a very strong and powerful thread, simply ends, almost on a flat or bad note. Thus, many people have left at worst. At best, remain, yet find little reason to create a new "uplifting" thread. To this end, they have succeeded for their part; but failed toward ours; because

    2. There is much to accomplish to undo the mess they and their bosses have created. While they have lost in overall terms, each day of unproductive progress, wherein we are not putting every effort to success, is a day lost for our side, and God only knows how many souls we did not reach with our creative energies and available resources (this forum, if it was healthier).

    3. It would be good to know that the Avalon controllers want to support the "good guys," as opposed to merely flushing us out. We must figure this out sooner-rather-than-later. Even if they "want" but cannot due to resource limitations, it's all the same to us, unless it's done better elsewhere.

    I feel a bit silly sometimes, as I am not entirely sure about point number 3, because they seem so pervasive here at PA.

    As far as we know, there will be no second chances for us at this very precious time in human and Earth history. To that end, I have been working on a new thread to address the delicate issues of people living in the 3rd and 5th, but have been reluctant to post it for all the reasons stated. I am not sure this is worthwhile to cast my pearls, or plant my seeds.... Perhaps there are more fertile gardens?


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    Quote Posted by pickle (here)
    It doesn't matter if they are here, they are powerless. They can't change the way we think, the way we are, our hearts and minds. They lost sometime ago.
    You should not underestimate what they can and can not do. It is not that hard to change someone elses thinking or point of view. Just saying.

    Quote The Third Wave was an experiment to demonstrate that even democratic societies are not immune to the appeal of fascism.[1][2] It was undertaken by history teacher Ron Jones with sophomore high school students attending his "Contemporary World" history class[1] as part of a study of Nazi Germany.[3] The experiment took place at Cubberley High School in Palo Alto, California, during the first week of April 1967.[1] Jones, unable to explain to his students how the German population could claim ignorance of the extermination of the Jewish people, decided to show them instead.[3] Jones started a movement called "The Third Wave" and told his students that the movement aimed to eliminate democracy.[1] The idea that democracy emphasizes individuality was considered as a drawback of democracy, and Jones emphasized this main point of the movement in its motto: "Strength through discipline, strength through community, strength through action, strength through pride."[1](...)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1063669/


    Quote Asch conformity experiments

    The Asch conformity experiments were a series of laboratory studies published in the 1950s that demonstrated a surprising degree of conformity to a majority opinion. These are also known as the Asch Paradigm.

    Experiments led by Solomon Asch of Swarthmore College asked groups of students to participate in a "vision test." In reality, all but one of the participants were confederates of the experimenter, and the study was really about how the remaining student would react to the confederates' behavior.(...)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_co...ty_experiments

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    Of course there is also the most machiavellian plot of all in just spreading the idea that they can't help but be among us... and the witch hunt starts without anyone from enemy camp being anywhere around or even in the vicinity of this camp... but camps are now defined... check this post in the thread mentioned by WF to get the point, as well as this one.
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    are there people here with that ip adress ??

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    A Quote By Glassteagalfan "Seems ALL of these cretins had the same block of IP addresses, emanating out of Oxnard, California. I don't believe in coincidences, so I had a another friend of mine in L.A. do some digging. Here's what he discovered. The block of IP addresses is conveniently in the locale of buildings where the NSA has it's offices in Oxnard California."

    My question to the forum and if at all possible/doable by the Mods/Admins (even though they have a lot on their plates already). Is there anyway we can check to see if these Oxnard Trolls are present on this forum as well.
    I've glanced at quite a few IP addresses in my stay here ... I don't recall ever seeing one from Oxnard, California.

    I'm pretty sure that the three letter agency agents don't all come in from one, or even just a few, identifiable geographic locations or IP address blocks.

    I'll further wager that some of the ones who cause the forum the most harm aren't even agents, at least not that they realize. Rather just people who have gotten sucked up in the whirlwinds of confusion, abuse and destruction that swirl about us, at so many levels.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    A Quote By Glassteagalfan "Seems ALL of these cretins had the same block of IP addresses, emanating out of Oxnard, California. I don't believe in coincidences, so I had a another friend of mine in L.A. do some digging. Here's what he discovered. The block of IP addresses is conveniently in the locale of buildings where the NSA has it's offices in Oxnard California."

    My question to the forum and if at all possible/doable by the Mods/Admins (even though they have a lot on their plates already). Is there anyway we can check to see if these Oxnard Trolls are present on this forum as well.
    I've glanced at quite a few IP addresses in my stay here ... I don't recall ever seeing one from Oxnard, California.

    I'm pretty sure that the three letter agency agents don't all come in from one, or even just a few, identifiable geographic locations or IP address blocks.

    I'll further wager that some of the ones who cause the forum the most harm aren't even agents, at least not that they realize. Rather just people who have gotten sucked up in the whirlwinds of confusion, abuse and destruction that swirl about us, at so many levels.
    Yes Paul who needs enemies when we are capable of fighting amongst ourselves?

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    There are basic hacking tools that hide original IP through the cloud of many computers on the net.
    Each computer acts as proxy of other computers on the cloud. I tested it few times. The program replaces my physical IP to one in a country in Europe. You can be any where on the planet every time you log on the net. ^^

    This is the good one. https://www.torproject.org/

    Only problem is the connection speed is reduced a bit.
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    Default Re: The Oxnard Trolls: Are They Here Among Us?

    Quote Posted by pickle (here)
    It doesn't matter if they are here, they are powerless. They can't change the way we think, the way we are, our hearts and minds. They lost sometime ago.
    They are far from powerless, never underestimate the enemy!
    In my opinion, i'm sorry to say, they are very present, and are making progress here.
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    I confess, I am a communist spy. I am here to help you all see the truth. Really!

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    Here is a link to a thread on the traits of disinfo agents Rahkyt started Sept. of last year thought I would put in here -seems to fit.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...formationalist


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    I wouldn't doubt it one bit if we have a whole bunch of trolls
    on this forum. I can't believe the stories that some people are
    posting, as if it were the real deal.

    I wish the mods were able to weeds these characters out and
    get rid of them. This forum has been going downhill for quite
    a while now because of these people.
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    There are plenty of trolls out there - many who are just sick lonely people and nothing to do with any nefarious agency and yes, some who are not. I think we have to thank the strict moderating guidelines that we are not going through what this journalist has been subjected to: Richard Bacon: my battle with the trolls http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17399027

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    I LOVE the movie called "The Thing" you used the pic from in your posting! There's definately infiltrators all around, but I couldn't care less as I believe they'll give themselves away eventually. The dangerous thing is if they convince the sheeple to riot or become violent - then the crack-down will happen.
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    Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and ideas. Appreciate the response. Be Love ≈W.f.≈
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    You've all heard of the "hive mind". The subconscious mind is more powerful and wields more influence over our thinking than the vast majority of us have ever imagined. The PTW are adepts at creating the hive mind mentality and they start programming us even before we come out of the womb. So you have an awful lot of people whose subconscious mind will simply not allow for the possibility of a conspiracy so huge that something like 911, for example, can be pulled off. But it doesn't even have to be anything that big. I have a friend who is an airline pilot who fights me tooth and nail denying that chemtrails exist. This is absolute proof that the subconscious mind can prevent you from seeing something that is right in front of your nose.

    So I'm not saying that because I don't believe that there are trolls on forums like this one working for 3-letter agencies, I'm just saying that the vast majority of them have nothing to do with any of them and they simply do it for free, with much more passion for their cause than those of us who recognize the conspiracies, to the point that they will fight outside the boundaries of all logic and reason, making complete fools of themselves in order to try and get others to return to their own world of blindness and denial.
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