Perspectives on the mind virus, booby traps and other fun stuff.

[songsfortheotherkind]

This thread was inspired in part by a PM I got asking about booby traps, a comment from Paul in another thread that really resonated with me, and a desire to create a platform of perspective for some of the patrons of a local establishment. As soon as I can figure out how to link directly to posts rather than just the thread, I'll do that.

Here's the quote from Paul:

Individually, when we're in our "me good, that bad" projection of the unintegrated darkness within us onto outer surfaces, rudeness is just one common mannerism, an individual choice that others can reasonably choose to pay no mind (and that forum mods can reasonably choose to prune back to some degree.)

But in the field that all our spirits form by their participation, we, the humans on this planet, are struggling with a virus, and we can help each other notice that virus. The necessary first step in a working immune system, which our shared field will require to keep that virus at bay, is a shared ability to identify that virus.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post451200

Here's part of my response

*nodding nodding nodding* yes, that is it exactly, though as the Being that I am I don't limit it to 'humans'. Part of my purpose and intent from childhood was to discover the interconnecting elements that allowed the platform of planetary psychosis to run- I taught myself to read at age three because I wanted to discover and comprehend what this oily blackness I saw moving around almost every Being I looked at was. I was looking for a way to undo the entire mechanism, not pull off leaves at a time- like that one perfect block in Jenga. :D I'm a hacker, I'm always looking for the most efficient way to do something. *laughing* I want to experience the post-Virus/Empire world, and I figured out that this wasn't going to happen until I could do something about the virus itself. I've been occupied with that on an etheric level for a looooong time, and recently I was told to do something more 'here' with what I know- and 'here' I am.

Paul also mentioned the wetiko sickness concept and I replied in that post to this also.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post451315

I have made rather a large post this morning regarding how the virus has played out in my life-

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post451903

so it's with the above background in mind that I'm making this post.

Here is how I view my approach to the virus: there can be zero tolerance for its manifestations, to the very best of my ability. I am aware of the infectious nature of the virus, how easily it can flourish in even the most barren looking of places; I'm conscious of it's ability to chameleon, morph, disguise and contort itself into endless echoes of itself, I've learned to recognise the foundational signals of the virus itself and so have extra tools at my disposal than I had in earlier years.

One of the most simple and elegant tools for detecting the virus at work is this: holding up a concept, idea, philosophy, way of Being, belief, action or any other aspect, and asking "Is there any way that Empire could be founded, resurrected, or reseeded, from thinking/feeling/doing/supporting this particular action, belief or paradigm?

I use Empire to describe the system of domination, control, suppression, manipulation, destruction and all the tools that have been used to achieve these things- religious philosophies based on hierarchy, the concept that we are inferior to some 'other' (in whatever form that inferiority expresses itself), the requirements of giving away our internal intuition and knowing to some external 'authority'; the religion of science, that has systematically 'scientifically' categorised, homogenised, diminished, divided and separated that which always ever has been whole; the tools of controlled media, education, 'healthcare'- Empire is the system that has been created to serve the purpose of enslaving, diminishing, constricting and feeding off those that it considers cattle.

The 'cattle' have been active participants in this process. This is not an 'us and them' perspective, because to me the virus emerged from the fertile soil of desiring less personal responsibility; it's an eons long story of many different Beings striving to bring about the possibility of personal evolution rather than the willingness to be enslaved if it meant not having to take responsibility. That deal has gone stale, the contract is being torn up as unconscionable, the virus is being actively challenged. Which returns me to this point: I personally will not allow the virus to thrive in me unchallenged. I look at every action I can possibly examine, with as much consciousness as I can bring to the moment, with the question 'does this vibration carry the seeds of Empire?'.

My understanding is simple- it's like any virus or parasite; if one doesn't get rid of it completely, it's going to learn, morph and adapt to the resistance our emotional and energetic immune system has shown. Is this so surprising, when in the physical realm the increasing appearance of antibiotic resistant bugs are beginning to cause real concern? If a single celled organism like a virus can learn, why is it so gobsmacking to think that the mind virus has been doing the same?

Of course it has. That's why no REVolution works- there's momentary upheaval with the initial immune system response of the planetary (or local) consciousness and the virus is caught on the back foot (think the 60s hippie movement and its initial refusal to engage in violence, something the system had no way of absorbing), then the virus explores the new territory, finds the weak points, slides between the cracks, filters the new information back to the physical elements of its expressions (the governmental bodies, the research labs, all the places that people often post about here in the forum) and new and improved viral mechanisms appear as a result. There is a pattern of constant absorption, homogenising of thought, action, the puppetry of the manipulated minds parping away at one another and calling it 'innovation' or 'communication'- every ripple drawn back down below the deceptive smoothness of the water.

The infected mind cannot tell it is infected. There needs to be other points from which to detect the manifestations. That's why so many volunteered to come here and hold the space, even though they knew it was going to be hell on a stick; that's why the immune system response of those with Aspergers, the milder versions of which create Beings immune to the social and interpersonal programming vital to keeping the memes alive; there has been a global upsurge in the birth of children holding the non-virus frequency, the so-called Indigos and Crystal, Rainbow children, the spontaneous clicks of awakening in some individuals who carried Neo's 'splinter of the mind' and couldn't let it go.

Naturally the virus has responded; the hijacking of the Indigo et al phenomenon by the religionists and those who assert that such children have come to 'save everyone', including Gaia- the subtle expressions that contain the poisonous ideas that our 'salvation' is both necessary *and* must come from outside us. The hippie movement was subsumed into financial portfolio concerns, anxiety about AIDS, self interest; other movements have risen and fallen, gradually ensnared back into the lull of the energy that is contained in the language the virus speaks.

Language is paramount to the successful seeding of the virus. Paying no attention to what one is actually saying is one of the things that the virus works through; there has been a forgetting of the power and energy contained in words and both Empire and the virus have been working overtime to make sure that information stayed private. It's because of this knowing in me that I'm watchful of what is *said* in threads, how particular individuals can turn a conversation into an energetic cul-de-sac without any overt intention to do so; their language carries with it a heaviness that is difficult to put one's finger on but the effects of which can readily been seen time and time again. It's one of the reasons I ask sometimes, 'what was your purpose and intent in making that statement?': the virus requires invisibility, unconsciousness and robotic parroting in order to both seed AND feed, so becoming more curious and mindful about intention and purpose is one of the beginning tools for consciously dissolving it.

We can choose to be the mirrors for each other at this time if we want to turn and face the virus down within, which is the place that it really operates from: millions and millions of individuals being led around by the nose by their own personal, specially tailored version of the mind virus, blindsided and blinkered with programming and toxic illusion. As a community there is a lot said on this forum regarding those 'out there' who are just 'programmed robots' doing what they are told and I'd like to offer this: it's the same in here, just on a different level.

That's how booby traps work- they're set to different blind spots and bog holes, different frequencies, just like addictions: I got so bored as a child listening to individuals bang on derisively about those they would call 'useless junkies', all the while chain smoking, drinking endless cups of coffee that they 'couldn't live without', relationship, work, tv, food addicted, unable to see the virus in its facehugger form wrapped around their heads, feeding and seeding with every word. I observe the same thing on this forum, on any forum, in any environment- always the virus, shifting and moving about, sliding and slitherin through the words, the actions, the ideas.

So, for those that are up for tackling the virus together, I'll recap my personal perspective and tools:

1. I look at the energy, intention, purpose behind an idea, communication, belief etc and ask 'Does this hold the seeds of Empire if this is given any life force to support it?' I look at the frequency from its faintest to its strongest expressions- intolerance, for instance, always has at the extreme end of the scale such fruit as domination, subjugation, war, murder, massacre; given that it bears rotten progeny, why would any evolved species be interested in supporting its energy, no matter how faint or mild the expression?

Any expression that contains the spores of viral thinking will always lead to the virus rising up again and rebirthing Empire if left unchecked . It is a carrier signal designed to find the right host- I may not be susceptible to the particular viral frequency our words are seeding into the air, but the individual sitting in the seat next to those words and frequency just might be the perfect vessel the virus has been seeking. If personal responsibility is the goal then am I not individually responsible for the psychic and psychological pathogens I'm coughing out over others, word by word, unconscious parroted program by unconscious parroted program? If there was a pandemic, wouldn't I be wearing a mask, to both prevent catching and spreading the disease? With the level of awareness and consciousness we've been granted compared to the average sleepwalkers on the planet, am I not called even more so to prevent the constant seeding of the paradigm that is at the heart of pretty much everything that is ailing us?

Non-violent communication is a brilliant tool for learning 'I' based language and keeping the virus contained. I suggest that any group seeking to evolve an encompassing and embracive Sui Generis language could begin here as a foundational platform for communicating with and perceiving others as whole, complete and Sui Generis in their Being.

Booby traps are designed to match particular weaknesses to low vibration frequency beliefs within the individual. That's a simple way of putting something that is actually quite intricate, because it's all about the internal landscape of the individual Being. Booby traps are like everything else, they have a Janus face and it depends on which way one chooses to look at things that they are either an effective tool of the virus OR they're an effective tool of the Mirror effect. What is it in the message/action of the booby trap that is getting to us? If we embrace the core of the trap as being a reflection of our Self, then we find our Self eventually standing there either with a key in our hand or (and this is what I discover) to find that there was never anything there anyway that wasn't being generated by some unclaimed element of my own fractured Self. Reclaiming those parts of our dissociated/disowned Self undoes the power of the virus in us because we're no longer susceptible to the carrot, the trigger. We can move through the landscape and the trashpiles remain trash, not a bedroom filled with stuffed toys in which to get lost, or a pit in which to believe we are trapped.

The book The Dark Side of the Light Chasers was one of the first to discuss this and it still a good place for someone new at this start. Others will no doubt post other practical recommendations.

Be open to the feedback of others that you have experienced to be sincere and honest about their purpose and intent . Be prepared to check *everything*, quarantine *anything* that looks suss, until it is clear that it doesn't carry the virus. If there are elements that are virus free caught up in the viral infection, be prepared to do some delicate and focused work- that's how the virus works some of its confusions, by wrapping positive concepts up in crap ones and relying on individual's being unprepared to work at the process of separating them back out. The virus has had a looooooooong time to get its act down, so why be surprised that it's going to take energy and conscious attention to get clear of it? It's a process that is going to happen anyway, so like birthing, we can either embrace it as the amazing process it is, or we can scream for the 'interventions' and get what happens as a result.

There is a lot more to say about this, which will hopefully unfold and be taken up by others. Right now my arms are about to drop off and my eyeballs fall out of my head, so I'm going to leave it here for now. Let's see what we can co-create together in terms of response to the virus.

[MargueriteBee]

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=12nDIgzcUxY

This is a video with Robert Stanley talking about what he calls the archons. Is this what you are talking about?

I started observing my thoughts and realized that alot are not my own. Any ugly, nasty thought, even pictures in my mind, are not my own. Then I started shining a light on them, in my head, and they are less and less. Blessed peace of mind. I reconize them more quickly and nip them in the bud, even in the midst of the the fire. Now they are less and less but I am ever watchful.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)

This is a video with Robert Stanley talking about what he calls the archons. Is this what you are talking about?

The simple answer to this is that it is/is not. The virus appears to each individual in whatever form is going to be most successful in achieving the purpose and intent of the virus, which is to enslave and cripple that particular individual. So, some individuals are susceptible to religious ideas (devils, demons, angry gods, karma etc), some are undone by social pressures, emotional blackmail, psychological trauma- the list of tools at its disposal is pretty huge.

I can only answer the archon question from a personal and Otherkind history perspective, which is this: the virus currently encapsulates the entire physical Avatar of Gaia, which we experience as a planet. This virus has been contained here, with the specific intent of not allowing the effects to spread. Quarantine. Everything that is 'known' here, unless vigorously challenged, is coming through the filter of the rampant virus mechanism. For me this goes for ALL the expressions of such things as gods, religions, dogmas, paradigms, ETs or NTIs, spirit Beings, hierarchies of 'angels', 'ascended masters' or *any* system that speaks in hierarchies, saviours, politics, terran educational systems, archons, whatever- the first thing I've ever come across that has sounded anything like the language I speak has been the Wingmakers, which I had never heard of until a gentle Avalonian suggested that some of my writing sounded like Wingmaker language and pointed me at the old website. Personally, almost everything else I have ever come across carries the viral infection of hierarchies, implications of 'superior' external Beings that are manipulating events or whatever, the suggestion that there are 'levels' of this or that to be achieved, the Lightworker concept of 'battling the forces of darkness' etc etc etc.

I did that too; I got caught up in those ideas because I forgot for awhile what it is that I'm really good at and what works. I discovered that yes, I'm pretty handy with double swords *and* they're a complete trap. War breeds war, resistance breeds resistance, conflict breeds conflict because the actions themselves carry the seeds. Always.

What is purported to be 'how the universe works' in terms of such concepts as Galactic 'Federations', organisations, hierarchies, fleets, gaggles, hordes, organised rabble etc etc are complete fictions in my 'Verse, nothing more than manipulations of the virus. NONE of the Beings that I know from out there do that stuff. Ever. Why would Beings of ANY significant development of spiritual, emotional, physical, psychological evolution do HIERARCHIES? Here's how I see it- I'm here on this realm, physically unremarkable, not superpowered, intelligent but not the Greatest Mind in All Creation, etc etc, and this singularity Being *gets* Sui Generis. I get it, I grokk the concept of it absolutely and I'm *living in to it*. Now, is anyone seriously going to suggest to me that me, the weird hybrid non-human with the broken body and the glitteringly sharded mind can grasp a concept like this *but the Beings who are claiming to be 'guiding humanity' etc haven't been able to get their minds around it? Haven't been able to move *beyond* hierarchy? Haven't even been able to pass on any juicy clues about how it might be achieved?*

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Uh, no. Either the universe is populated by Incredible Dumb, in which case I'm glad I set the Pub up in an alternative dimension OR it's all just virus noise. *shrugs* It's simple to me- *does this idea/paradigm/message/belief/whatever contain the seeds of Mindvirus/Empire?* yes/no. If yes, it gets the boot. Hierarchies tick the 'yes' box. They get the boot. Any message that is pimping hierarchies, no matter how lofty they might be framed, are pimping the virus. They get the boot. The hierarchies behind such messages are either consciously pimping the virus, in which case *boot*, or their message is being massively distorted either coming in, or by the unchallenged virus within the receiver, in which case they need to get better transmission devices or level up their contacts considerably. If they *are* genuine, they'll be able to do that, but then they would have done that with the first major cockup (for visitors from the Pub, think 'ropture') and done something about it. This hasn't been the case. So I'm *meh* about all that, to me (and to my Otherkind/starguide family there has always been a consistent shrugging of shoulders about it- the virus being the virus, who knew? kind of thing and we'd all move on to something else more interesting).

Before this is leapt upon, I am NOT knocking channeling per se, because in the strictest sense of the term I do it almost all the time, in my personal relationships with Beings 'not here' in a multitude of ways (time/space/dimension/label label concept)- and these Beings are not calling themselves increasingly more grand names, are not scrambling over one another in the top-o-the-pile hierarchy stakes, have no aspirations to Yurtle The Turtle Oh Marvellous Me and are quite good at making really rude jokes about all that activity at times. I *have* met Creators, I am in increasingly wondrous connection to mine (and yes that is in the plural), I have also been in the presence of Creators of Creators, it's like an infinite set of Prussian dolls, really- none of the ones I have met have had the *slightest* interest in Yurtle the Turtle/bow down to me, *I* am the ALmightee whatever. So that's my 'Verse- Creators in the plural, no gods, no hierarchies, no saviours, no minions, just a vast array of Sui Generis Beings doing their thing and celebrating the process of co-creative evolution in whatever way that shows up.

Everything else is mind virus illusion.

[another bob]

excerpted from:

CoEVOLUTION: An Interplanetary Adventure

New Zealander Alec Newald claims that in 1989 he was abducted for 10 days by a group of benevolent aliens and transported to their home planet. His amazing experiences have great significance for the future of humanity and our galactic cousins.
Alec Newald first contacted us in 1995 about publishing his book, CoEvolution, describing his 10-day round trip to his abductors' homeworld, Haven, and the Earth-based controversy it created. Here we publish some intriguing excerpts from his book. – Editor, Nexus Magazine


"There was indeed a time upon your planet, not so long ago in the context of this history lesson, when a 'force' came down upon it and did in fact claim it [the Earth] and all upon it as its own. That force—and I know you will find this difficult to accept, Alec [Zeena used my name for the first time]—that force is still among you. It is indeed now a part of all of you, so I suppose you could say it still does own the planet in some way.

"After this force won your planet, it realised it would have a continuous fight on its hands, for you were not as you are now. You were well on your way to enlightenment, with a very strong spiritual base. You were actually almost as strong as this force itself. It had to trick you in order to master you, and while you were down it altered your make-up, your very structure; your DNA, in fact. It crippled you and stunted you, and set you back many thousands of years. It made you into what you are today, which is only a portion of the greatness you can be, for you have not yet even fully recovered. And if that force has its way, you never will!

"That force is known to most as the 'force of darkness', for it is indeed the enemy of enlightenment. You will please understand that this is a very simplistic description of a most complex entity. Even we do not understand it in its entirety. It is in the air that you breathe and everywhere about you. It has aligned itself to the planet and you. It beats to the pulse of your very planet, for you and the Earth are one and the same. This is one thing your peoples do not seem to comprehend, but you can use this union of the whole to do wondrous things, just as we have.

"Unfortunately, most of your kind fight the natural forces of your wondrous planet. By this I mean you bend them, even break them, to fit your needs. It need not be this way. If your people will just open their minds and hearts to your planet, as many of your ancient races have done in the past, it will show you the way. All is not lost; it just needs to be recalled. Until this is done, we have much need for concern. It is not just Earth planet you are violating as you bend and break Nature in your whims of fancy, for all of all is connected. This is really very basic knowledge. It has been ignored because it suits those who would play with power to ignore it. We and others are indeed benevolent to your race, as we all are connected, but soon something must be done before your play does meaningful harm to us all!

"We find that there is a need to teach you more about the dark forces that permeate you. You would do well by your people if you take great heed of this lesson and pass on your findings to those of your kind who would listen. The dark force vibrates at a level that is compatible with your brainwave patterns. This much you should already know, but others of your kind have kept it from you.

"In spite of this, some, like you, Alec, are building a resistance to this alien intruder. This is one of the reasons why you find yourself thinking differently from the majority around you. It has enabled you to see more clearly the error of your ways and what must be done. You shall continue along this path a while longer yet, and even doubt your own kind from time to time. Be patient. This is all I can suggest, as inadequate as it may sound. We have been working on these things with you for many a year now. All of your people will find their way with the passing of time.

"As you find with all afflictions, they are easier to contend with if you understand them. I am doing my best to explain all this to you in terms you will understand. Please interject from here on if you do not understand some point, for we do consider the following to be most important.

"Some on your planet have aligned themselves with this 'force'. Note I have said 'aligned' and not 'allied', for there is a difference. Do you understand this? [I nodded.] They have gained much power from the force, and some are even foolish enough to think they have it under control. This is naïve, of course, as the force or alien entity is feeding off these people or, rather, feeding off the conflicts these people create in their bid for wealth and power. As long as this suits the dark force, it shall continue; for the 'fear' emotion is what it lives off.

"The easiest way to defeat this force is to remove fear from your societies. This will, in effect, starve it out. It will then go elsewhere, looking for easier prey. You see, your human race is one of the very few that lives with this most unusual thing called 'emotion', which is why the force came here in the first place. We, too, had emotions once, so I am told, and some are saying we can now experience them again, thanks to the new breeding program we are experimenting with. Forgive me, I digress again.

"You will find some of your kind are trying very hard to harness this most dangerous force. Unfortunately, they do not fully understand that it is an entity in its own right and that this is a very dangerous mistake to be making. They think they are playing a game and that they are winning this game. We have tried to warn your people more than once in the past, but no heed has been taken. As your people say, 'it is your life'.

"The worry we have is that your planet breathes with you, in harmony even with your thoughts. To attack the people by using the force in this way is to attack the planet. Be it on your own heads if you invoke the wrath of your planet. There would be little or nothing we could do for your people should that happen. Perhaps you can help us with this message. We have an idea to put to you, but that shall keep until another time, for there is still much to be related on other subjects.

"Your societies, right from the very beginning, have engineered fear into your lives. Most of it is an artificial fear of society itself; in other words, you fear your very own laws. Your high priests from long ago shouted down to the common masses, describing what wraths would be set upon them if they did so much as dare to cross the all-mighty gods of their time. Forgive me if I make what you call a 'joke' of this, for these all-mighty gods they describe were people like me or the Guardian, whom you have met. Do you fear me, Alec, from where you stand?" Zeena asked.

"I feel no fear," was my answer.
"So you see how your masses were manipulated in our absence by those who would gain from it?" she asked again.
"I can see how a lie could fool the uneducated," was my reply.
"And you think your people are better educated on this subject today?" she asked once more.
"If you ask what we know of God, then perhaps not," I replied.
"Exactly my point," Zeena stated. "And so the intimidation goes on, only you have a hundredfold the number of laws today. These are not the laws of Nature, however; just of your manipulators who in turn have been manipulated by the force.
"The laws of Nature you break every day as you drive to work in your disgusting machines. It is even more curious to us that you all know these things but you continue to allow them just the same. Why is there not a law against it in your society? Does pollution not kill? Are your people so blind they could not see what would happen with the proliferation of these strange machines? You need not answer, for we know the reasons. This is just, as you might say, an example.

"You will perhaps tolerate our confusion, though, when we fail to understand what we have observed in your so-called Western societies in which thousands of your money are spent to save but one life, while millions of your kind die in other far areas for the sake of small amounts of this money. Are you not all one people of the same flesh and blood? For this question, we ourselves do not have such an answer. Could you perhaps help us in the reasoning of this?" Zeena asked, looking at me in a most perplexed way.

"My own people sometimes embarrass and confuse me. No, I have no answer to that question," I replied.
"Very well. Why do your people take such time and interest in a single tree, should it be cut down in your cities, while they allow large areas of many-years-old trees to be removed from the forests which are out of their sight? Please take this question home with you to put to others, for we also find this most confusing."

[Dennis Leahy]

Placing a bookmark right here. Very interesting topic. I'll be back "in a few days."

Dennis

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by another bob (here)
excerpted from:

CoEVOLUTION: An Interplanetary Adventure

"There was indeed a time upon your planet, not so long ago in the context of this history lesson, when a 'force' came down upon it and did in fact claim it [the Earth] and all upon it as its own. That force—and I know you will find this difficult to accept, Alec [Zeena used my name for the first time]—that force is still among you. It is indeed now a part of all of you, so I suppose you could say it still does own the planet in some way. ... "My own people sometimes embarrass and confuse me. No, I have no answer to that question," I replied."Very well. Why do your people take such time and interest in a single tree, should it be cut down in your cities, while they allow large areas of many-years-old trees to be removed from the forests which are out of their sight? Please take this question home with you to put to others, for we also find this most confusing."

Yes, something like that. A little different in the history from a hybrid's perspective, of course.. *smiling*

Thankyou for posting that.

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Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Placing a bookmark right here. Very interesting topic. I'll be back "in a few days."

Dennis

I am looking forward to that.

[gripreaper]

Another way of saying "the Empire" or hierarchical structure get's tossed out, is to say: Anything which does not align in harmony with nature, is false.

And that brings us back to the original stealth and manipulation from outside, which we can discuss. This infiltration changed the basic structure of humanity, hybridized it and took it out of balance with nature. The idea of a fear based paradigm as opposed to one of love and harmony with nature, is the very hierarchical empire songsfortheotherkinds speaks of.

I would posit that most who would be interested in this thread, have taken a pretty good look at the beast, both internally and externally, and realize that this phenomenon and manifestation is imbedded in our very DNA and is difficult to extract.

We have the advantage of a body (the BA) which can "emote" as well as a soul, which can gather, focus, and intention life force energy through the etheric double known as the KA body, and we have the inertia of the matrix to create such change. The MerKaBa. This is the context and the filter from which to move forward, and I'm excited to be a part of this thread.

[MargueriteBee]

Definately alot to contemplate here. Your description of the mind virus opens my perception of what this thing is. Thank you.

[sunnyrap]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Another way of saying "the Empire" or hierarchical structure get's tossed out, is to say: Anything which does not align in harmony with nature, is false.

And that brings us back to the original stealth and manipulation from outside, which we can discuss. This infiltration changed the basic structure of humanity, hybridized it and took it out of balance with nature. The idea of a fear based paradigm as opposed to one of love and harmony with nature, is the very hierarchical empire songsfortheotherkinds speaks of.

I would posit that most who would be interested in this thread, have taken a pretty good look at the beast, both internally and externally, and realize that this phenomenon and manifestation is imbedded in our very DNA and is difficult to extract.

We have the advantage of a body (the BA) which can "emote" as well as a soul, which can gather, focus, and intention life force energy through the etheric double known as the KA body, and we have the inertia of the matrix to create such change. The MerKaBa. This is the context and the filter from which to move forward, and I'm excited to be a part of this thread.

I second that. I posit the old concept of the 'devil on one shoulder and the angel on the other' is a construct of our innate sense of this. I've been recently pondering the concept of integrating Iill say 'the useful' aspects of that which we have such a strong urge to fight, thereby not resisting but in fact including and debilitating the power of that which would otherwise control us. I meditate on whether one could use the behaviors/techniques of the ptb while maintaining a strong intention to serve the highest good of all. Reconciling opposites. The ultimate question would be: how can this 'darkness', this 'virus' actually serve us all? What would make us LOVE it?

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Another way of saying "the Empire" or hierarchical structure get's tossed out, is to say: Anything which does not align in harmony with nature, is false.

mmm /headtilt/ It is argued in certain circles that 'survival of the fittest' is in harmony with nature; this is how elements of the distorted 'theory of evolution' has been put forward as explanation of the tendency towards domination, control, extermination of 'other'- chimps are touted as the closest biologically to 'humans', they are 'nature'- they are also known cannibals, killers of the young, and brutal. Rape is common in that species.

Hmm. So perhaps 'nature' isn't the word we are looking for? I would suggest that, for sentient creatures capable of such considerations, moving the marker up a notch or squillion is better than using a simpler yardstick, or at least having a global agreement on what 'nature' means, which at this point isn't likely. This is why I refer to Universal principles, primarily the 'do no harm' because even 'treat others as you would be treated' doesn't work- some individuals enjoy giving and receiving pain and in a species that likes to aim for the lowest common denominator as it's baseline rationalisation point, it's not a principle that I've found works well in practice. So for me, Sui Generis and 'do no harm' are two solid, understandable concepts that can be used as a foundation for a way of Being that we are only just uncovering the practicalities of.

I'm into practicalities, even when it comes to esoteric principles, even if those practicalities only are relevant in the beginners phase; what I am interested in primarily is a foundational practice that can be applied across every permutation of Singularity, that can be understood by novice and seasoned practitioner alike, that is simple in foundation and complex in practice (constant evolution rather than a closed system), that do not need a 'belief' system in order to practice. Neither Sui Generis or tackling the mind virus requires a belief system: they are stand alone principles that can be *turned* within the foundations of many belief systems and still work for the individual and they are not reliant on these belief systems to function. This to me is a solid platform for beginning.

Sui Generis is a readily demonstrable concept: as Dr Bruce Lipton and medical science has demonstrated, we are *unique Beings * genetically. Even the organs of twins, if one donates to the other, will be rejected by the recipient's immune system no matter how genetically close the match is, because they are NOT identical- they're just very very very alike. So no two Beings are the same. Sui Generis: unique. From this point it's simply a matter of upscaling the concepts through the levels of consciousness and experience, finding new ways of Being with one another that embrace this awareness. No agreement on any other level is required- I'm unique, you are unique, everything else is discovery of singularity expression as it manifests in each of us.

The foundation of 'do no harm' means that Beings can learn to be confident in the expression of their unique Self because there is a platform of non-violence and personal responsibility that frees the individual from the pain of psychotic social and interpersonal weirdness, for starters, and that's just one of the benefits of being part of a community of individuals that takes balances 'do no harm' with respecting Sui Generis; this means that using 'do no harm' as a weapon is removed, so the principle cannot be used to enforce an individual's own dodgy by crying 'you're harming me!' when another Beings actions don't suit their agenda. I've had 'love' and 'respect' and 'caring is sharing' used as a weapon against me enough in my own life to know a dodgy mechanism when I see it.

And that brings us back to the original stealth and manipulation from outside, which we can discuss. This infiltration changed the basic structure of humanity, hybridized it and took it out of balance with nature.

With respect, this might be your experience *and* it's not mine. I don't know if you've read much of my other writing here, so I understand that you may not have picked this up, but I do not and never have identified as human; I identify as a hybrid non-human of Otherkind/starkind origin, and I personally don't have the historical perspective of homo sapiens being anything other than a lab created species. There is a whole history that I was born with, which over the years has emerged in parts through various writers and others; if there is ever an interest in my personal understanding then I'll be happy to share that*and* I don't feel that it is necessary to have agreement about such things for Sui Generis and 'do no harm' to work well. What I do experience is that individuals can benefit in progressing with each other if no assumptions about history, experience of Beingness, shared anything at
all are made. What is true for you is perfect for your evolution, what is true for me is mine, and that's all it is.

The idea of a fear based paradigm as opposed to one of love and harmony with nature, is the very hierarchical empire songsfortheotherkinds speaks of.

Fear is part of the tool *and* it's not the virus. This is an important distinction. Also, using words like 'love' and 'harmony with nature'- what do these terms mean? To you they carry an interpretation that may be vastly different from the next individual, so part of learning how to communicate in a non-virus carrying way, I have observed, is to keep the context to *I*, to keep the whole of one's perspective in the subjective and singular, making no assumptions about anything anyone else is interpreting. 'This is how I experience this thing' is far more co-creative than 'here's how we all experience it' which simply creates the need for a lot of clarification and sometimes rebuttal. It's why I endeavour to be so careful in reiterating that *my* perspective is only and ever that- my own. What I call 'globalising', the taking of an idea, concept, belief etc, and painting it across a group of individuals by presumption, is so rarely helpful as to be usefully put aside as nonviable.

I would posit that most who would be interested in this thread, have taken a pretty good look at the beast, both internally and externally, and realize that this phenomenon and manifestation is imbedded in our very DNA and is difficult to extract.

*pointing to Self* Not human. Actively triggering on a daily basis the non-human elements of my DNA. I'm not talking about extraction, I'm talking about embracing, dissolving, cancelling out by understanding the mechanisms *within us as individuals* that give the virus ground. This is all about personal responsibility and understanding the enormous power that abides at the core of coherent Self.

We have the advantage of a body (the BA) which can "emote" as well as a soul, which can gather, focus, and intention life force energy through the etheric double known as the KA body, and we have the inertia of the matrix to create such change. The MerKaBa. This is the context and the filter from which to move forward, and I'm excited to be a part of this thread.

This may indeed be the perfect context and filter for *you*, it may absolutely not be for the next individual. I personally don't speak that language, so the concepts are vague at best; the best part is, I don't have to be able to speak your language in order to afford your Sui Generis all respect and honour in how ever your path is unfolding. That's the beauty of the way that I've seen things, both in my mind and in experience 'out there'.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by sunnyrap (here)
I second that. I posit the old concept of the 'devil on one shoulder and the angel on the other' is a construct of our innate sense of this.

As one of the resident non-humans on this board (and there are a few) I'd like to respectfully offer that I really do not understand the concept of this metaphor. I have lived with humans for a long time, I know, and for the past year have been intentionally activating my non-human DNA with the goal of fully triggering it. This has, apparently, resulted in some profound restructuring of mind. There are certain things I simply cannot hold in my imaginal field *and* hold my own consciousness at the degree that I am aiming for. Perhaps you can express your concept a different way?

I've been recently pondering the concept of integrating Iill say 'the useful' aspects of that which we have such a strong urge to fight, thereby not resisting but in fact including and debilitating the power of that which would otherwise control us.

Some call this integration of the Shadow, which is why I mentioned the Dark Side book. It's a necessary part, from my personal experience and observation of others, of becoming gradually immune to the virus.

I meditate on whether one could use the behaviors/techniques of the ptb while maintaining a strong intention to serve the highest good of all. Reconciling opposites. The ultimate question would be: how can this 'darkness', this 'virus' actually serve us all? What would make us LOVE it?

I already *do* love it, as an expression of all that I haven't been able to see in my Self; it already does serve us because as I said at the outset I absolutely experience this as a spiritual process, even if how the virus manifests traverses many expressions of Being. Part of having these discussions, for my Self, is that in calling out the virus and talking about what I'm seeing, I am assisting in the integration of spiritual dichotomy, the Mystics and the Skeksis united as it were, so that something far more interesting can happen.
That's how it is for me, anyway.

[gripreaper]

I can see this is going to be difficult. We may need to use an entirely new vocabulary, one which does not exist. My post was, when read in it's full context, in agreement with you and not in opposition.. So, words like "fear", "love", "nature" or harmony with it or the lack thereof, as well as how we were hybridized are inadequate then I'm gobsmacked.

I also realize you may not have the benefit of having read any of my posts on Avalon and have an understanding and a context for where I might becoming from.

[Borden]

Songsfortheotherkind,

You are beautiful. I say this with full cognizance of the fact that it is a Borden-centric statement. I don't care.

When you first appeared on this forum I found what you said interesting, but annoyingly effervescent. The not being human thing made it all too easy for me to dismiss you as being bananas. The last week or so has changed that initial reaction and now I feel you to be a kindred spirit ... though one who might very well be a dark figure to you.

I am a dark figure, in some senses. I am a victim of the virus in unusual ways, I think. I know. I make little sense to it. The areas of my own inner landscape where it does understand me are the fertile ground where it rages at me and has me by the balls. It doesn't like that I know this. It owns me, but is very uneasy about me. There have been occasions where it has gone home with serious injuries. Unfortunately, 'home' is me. I suspect it has secret dialogues with itself about the mystery of how I can be so clever and so stupid at the same time.

I am a powerless, infiltrated, hopeless human being with a quintessential flavour of the mage, but as a fool. I'm quite happy to say that it owns me, because it often thinks it does, but there is a desperation in that contract. I know it fears me. I could tell you many stories that would flesh this out for you, but I'm not prepared to do so on the forum. Some of its assaults have been mind-blowingly savage. You know you've got to someone when they bare their teeth at you so. I want it dead, but to focus on that sentiment is tantamount to alignment with it. It just doesn't get my sense of humour or my peculiar disharmony. I actually want to see it dance itself to death, and my life seems to be about that. There is another me that it knows and fears, who watches this dance with a little smile on his face. It hates that. Its attacks on me have recently become even more crass and patently observable.

Now, I've been told by various so-called mystical and sensitive people over the decades that I'm unusual in terms of my potential for power, my perceived ancientness, etcetera. Nice little ego boosts for a wafty idea about myself I could cheerfully entertain and magnify in my own heart. I may be a Narcissist, but I'm a bored, disenfranchised one. Many years of honest self-exploration lead me to a startling conclusion: slipperiness aside ... when you stop speaking its language, the virus panics. Big time.

I hope you PM me, because we may have an interesting word or two on underground places and battles fought therein. I'll talk about most things openly here, but there are some things that would just spill more drinkable blood, as far as its concerned. Screw it, and screw its camouflage. But I choose my battles. It thinks Borden is its bitch. I like that. Its day is coming. I am one of many, many people who are seeing through it at last. Let me tell you something ... it's sh****ng itself.

As well it should.

Borden

[Borden]

Balls, I should have just posted this instead.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8hbSM1zVo

Borden

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Borden (here)
Songsfortheotherkind,

You are beautiful. I say this with full cognizance of the fact that it is a Borden-centric statement. I don't care.

When you first appeared on this forum I found what you said interesting, but annoyingly effervescent. The not being human thing made it all too easy for me to dismiss you as being bananas. The last week or so has changed that initial reaction and now I feel you to be a kindred spirit ... though one who might very well be a dark figure to you.

I am a dark figure, in some senses. I am a victim of the virus in unusual ways, I think. I know. I make little sense to it. The areas of my own inner landscape where it does understand me are the fertile ground where it rages at me and has me by the balls. It doesn't like that I know this. It owns me, but is very uneasy about me. There have been occasions where it has gone home with serious injuries. Unfortunately, 'home' is me. I suspect it has secret dialogues with itself about the mystery of how I can be so clever and so stupid at the same time.

I am a powerless, infiltrated, hopeless human being with a quintessential flavour of the mage, but as a fool. I'm quite happy to say that it owns me, because it often thinks it does, but there is a desperation in that contract. I know it fears me. I could tell you many stories that would flesh this out for you, but I'm not prepared to do so on the forum. Some of its assaults have been mind-blowingly savage. You know you've got to someone when they bare their teeth at you so. I want it dead, but to focus on that sentiment is tantamount to alignment with it. It just doesn't get my sense of humour or my peculiar disharmony. I actually want to see it dance itself to death, and my life seems to be about that. There is another me that it knows and fears, who watches this dance with a little smile on his face. It hates that. Its attacks on me have recently become even more crass and patently observable.

Now, I've been told by various so-called mystical and sensitive people over the decades that I'm unusual in terms of my potential for power, my perceived ancientness, etcetera. Nice little ego boosts for a wafty idea about myself I could cheerfully entertain and magnify in my own heart. I may be a Narcissist, but I'm a bored, disenfranchised one. Many years of honest self-exploration lead me to a startling conclusion: slipperiness aside ... when you stop speaking its language, the virus panics. Big time.

I hope you PM me, because we may have an interesting word or two on underground places and battles fought therein. I'll talk about most things openly here, but there are some things that would just spill more drinkable blood, as far as its concerned. Screw it, and screw its camouflage. But I choose my battles. It thinks Borden is its bitch. I like that. Its day is coming. I am one of many, many people who are seeing through it at last. Let me tell you something ... it's sh****ng itself.

As well it should.

Borden

I wasn't going to write today; after epic 'virus exposing' writing yesterday it reared up and munched on me most of the night, leaving me curled inwards and exhausted, feeling poisoned and irrelevant.

And then I find this post and I am.... *waves hands helplessly, wordless* this morning, a voice calling across my temporarily battle scarred internal landscape. And me, sitting on this rock, weary and filthy, looking up to see a figure in the distance and wondering to my Self 'how come that looks like one of the Knights that say 'Ni'?....'

*grins up at you, sideways eyed* I will PM you when I've reorganised my brain pattern back to 'cohesive'. And as for 'dark', there was a reason I posted that particular picture with the comment on Gaia at the Pub... I might have wings at times *and* I never ever said they were feathered...

[another bob]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
I wasn't going to write today; after epic 'virus exposing' writing yesterday it reared up and munched on me most of the night, leaving me curled inwards and exhausted, feeling poisoned and irrelevant.

Pub members send tidings of comfort . . .

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Borden (here)
Balls, I should have just posted this instead.

Borden

I love this band, I love this song, I love this clip, this made me cry in a good way and I particularly love I pull up in your driveway, magic soaking my spine

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by another bob (here)
Pub members send tidings of comfort . . .

I am a tenacious and stubborn weed, thorn in the eye of the virus. It has its moments- then I have mine...

Thank you. I truthfully don't know what to do with these particular elements of being Seen, I've been out here on my own for so long I don't think I have any gracious art whatsoever.

[another bob]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
...I've been out here on my own for so long I don't think I have any gracious art whatsoever.

Sometimes, just showing up is enough.

[Calz]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
I wasn't going to write today; after epic 'virus exposing' writing yesterday it reared up and munched on me most of the night, leaving me curled inwards and exhausted, feeling poisoned and irrelevant.

Pub members send tidings of comfort . . .

Indeed ...