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    Default Mysterious Objects at the Edge of the Electromagnetic Spectrum

    The human eye is crucial to astronomy. Without the ability to see, the luminous universe of stars, planets and galaxies would be closed to us, unknown forever. Nevertheless, astronomers cannot shake their fascination with the invisible.

    Outside the realm of human vision is an entire electromagnetic spectrum of wonders. Each type of light from radio waves to gamma-rays reveals something unique about the universe. Some wavelengths are best for studying black holes; others reveal newborn stars and planets; while others illuminate the earliest years of cosmic history.

    NASA has many telescopes "working the wavelengths" up and down the electromagnetic spectrum. One of them, the Fermi Gamma-Ray Telescope orbiting Earth, has just crossed a new electromagnetic frontier.

    "Fermi is picking up crazy-energetic photons," says Dave Thompson, an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. "And it's detecting so many of them we've been able to produce the first all-sky map of the very high energy universe."

    "This is what the sky looks like near the very edge of the electromagnetic spectrum, between 10 billion and 100 billion electron volts."

    The light we see with human eyes consists of photons with energies in the range 2 to 3 electron volts. The gamma-rays Fermi detects are billions of times more energetic, from 20 million to more than 300 billion electron volts. These gamma-ray photons are so energetic, they cannot be guided by the mirrors and lenses found in ordinary telescopes. Instead Fermi uses a sensor that is more like a Geiger counter than a telescope.

    If we could wear Fermi's gamma ray "glasses," we'd witness powerful bullets of energy - individual gamma rays - from cosmic phenomena such as supermassive black holes and hypernova explosions. The sky would be a frenzy of activity.

    Before Fermi was launched in June 2008, there were only four known celestial sources of photons in this energy range. "In 3 years Fermi has found almost 500 more," says Thompson.

    What lies within this new realm?

    "Mystery, for one thing," says Thompson. "About a third of the new sources can't be clearly linked to any of the known types of objects that produce gamma rays. We have no idea what they are."

    The rest have one thing in common: prodigious energy.

    "Among them are super massive black holes called blazars; the seething remnants of supernova explosions; and rapidly rotating neutron stars called pulsars."

    And some of the gamma rays seem to come from the 'Fermi bubbles' - giant structures emanating from the Milky Way's center and spanning some 20,000 light years above and below the galactic plane.

    Exactly how these bubbles formed is another mystery.

    Now that the first sky map is complete, Fermi is working on another, more sensitive and detailed survey.

    "In the next few years, Fermi should reveal something new about all of these phenomena, what makes them tick, and why they generate such 'unearthly' levels of energy," says David Paneque, a leader in this work from the Max Planck Institute in Germany.


    From end to end, the newly discovered gamma-ray bubbles extend 50,000 light-years, or roughly half of the Milky Way's diameter, as shown in this illustration. Hints of the bubbles' edges were first observed in X-rays (blue) by ROSAT, a Germany-led mission operating in the 1990s. The gamma rays mapped by Fermi (magenta) extend much farther from the galaxy's plane.



    For now, though, there are more unknowns than knowns about "Fermi's world."

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    Very interesting The One. I wonder if this information could help prove the hypothesis of Pane Andov? His interpretation of crop circles, ET contacts, and Mayan calender studies predict that there is an energy cloud spreading out from the center of the Milky Way and is going to effect us and the Sun in late 2012.

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    Default Re: Mysterious Objects at the Edge of the Electromagnetic Spectrum

    The above is an artistically inclined image. Which is an excellent descriptor, or visualization aid. But...The real image looks like this:

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    Interesting...100 billion electron volts and yet the 'electric' universe theory fails to get traction... must be wrong I suppose...

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    Quote Posted by Mad Hatter (here)
    Interesting...100 billion electron volts and yet the 'electric' universe theory fails to get traction... must be wrong I suppose...
    The electric universe reality will electrocute a lot of careers. The old theiry is also supportive of a hostile universe that is mechanical and indifferent to its' parts. Carrier waves for genetic information is another part of the electrical view and will make a lot of 'dinosaurs' extinct. Their egos will not allow them to say, "oops".
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    Quote Posted by Mad Hatter (here)
    Interesting...100 billion electron volts and yet the 'electric' universe theory fails to get traction... must be wrong I suppose...
    The electric universe reality will electrocute a lot of careers. The old theiry is also supportive of a hostile universe that is mechanical and indifferent to its' parts. Carrier waves for genetic information is another part of the electrical view and just makes a lot of 'dinosaurs' extinct. Their egos will not allow them to say, "oops".

    Their "controllers ... the system ... need to retain their jobs/funding" I would suggest has more to do with it than their egos.

    Bring down "the system" and a lot of these birds will be chirping a different tune.

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    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
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    Interesting...100 billion electron volts and yet the 'electric' universe theory fails to get traction... must be wrong I suppose...
    The electric universe reality will electrocute a lot of careers. The old theiry is also supportive of a hostile universe that is mechanical and indifferent to its' parts. Carrier waves for genetic information is another part of the electrical view and just makes a lot of 'dinosaurs' extinct. Their egos will not allow them to say, "oops".

    Their "controllers ... the system ... need to retain their jobs/funding" I would suggest has more to do with it than their egos.

    Bring down "the system" and a lot of these birds will be chirping a different tune.

    IMHO
    That is why I mentioned careers in my first sentence. Ego was a parting smack at preening peacocks. That is, I agree with your assessment.

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    A common thing that happens at scientific gatherings that have contentious subjects be raised, is this:

    Publicly, the scientists or theoreticians that are gathered at the conference, listen silently and say nothing.

    But privately, many will approach the speaker who brought in the contentious subject/talk/seminar.... and speak on their interest and support.

    Scientists have little training in the social arts, in most cases. Thus their ideas and aspects of conformance, in public, remains as it is seems to be.

    Privately, it is a different matter.

    As an example, I know a priest who has a public face. A conformity, to and of expectations, if you will.

    Most, like this one, will be different, in private. Depends on how well they trust ~you~ with the requirement of their having a specific public face. Do they trust your behavior and self... with the intricacies of their public face vs private face, a public face which they must protect...due to the shallowness of their fellow man?


    Same for many scientists, for they are immersed in a system that has been made rigid via the 'dogmatization' and 'politicization' of their original theoretical exploratory tenants and origins.
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    Dare I evoke the loathsome 'Nassim Haramein' word in conjunction with this thread?

    This looks much like what Haramein is describing in association with his 'singularity' theory.


    (take note of the image at 1 min., 50 seconds)

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    Thank you, Nassim Haramein opens peoples eyes...

    He knows how to present findings in common terms...

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    I like Nassim. I don't expect anyone to be right about everything, just like a chef will make some dishes I won't like. People who throw babies out with bathwater need their diapers changed.

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    Quote Posted by Leon (here)
    Thank you, Nassim Haramein opens peoples eyes...

    He knows how to present findings in common terms...
    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    I like Nassim. I don't expect anyone to be right about everything, just like a chef will make some dishes I won't like. People who throw babies out with bathwater need their diapers changed.
    I too am a fan of Nassim. I expressed my comment #9 in that particular way, because as I post comments including Haramein's work, my words come under fire from some of the members.

    I also endorse Talboltt and Thornhill's work and link the Thunderbolts website whenever possible.

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    I have little knowledge on cosmology and didn't quite understand what was said here, but I sure love the beauty of the universe.... : )


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    I too am a fan of Nassim. I expressed my comment #9 in that particular way, because as I post comments including Haramein's work, my words come under fire from some of the members.
    "some" ... including myself at times .

    I don't throw out all, or even most of Nassim's work ... just some of it. Mostly I prefer other commentators.
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