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    Default STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    I, and perhaps others, would be compelled to submit more creative threads knowing that we could edit / remove the now-expected negatives that attack our every premise—regardless if they are TPTW or misguided idiots. This proposed thread author privilege would allow the thread to maintain the positive objective it was created to provide, knowing it is within our control of which members may participate, avoiding other negative issues we currently endure.


    This addresses the issue that "PA isn't what it used to be." It should be getting much better! Is it?

    I believe this proposed feature might just entice some of those recently departed to return, knowing they need not be distracted by those that previously succeeded in destroying the wonderful spirit of their threads. Can anyone say, "Welcome Back Pie, Darla, and many others...?"


    Realizing that threads might become focused into two or more identified camps (having their opposition methodically banned from their opposition), I do believe traffic would increase to those threads knowing that the spirit of the author will be controlled by the author. Thus, membership, the PA threads, creative discourse and human solutions would grow in strength, volume and quantity.


    The mods would have much less work to do, because the thread authors wouldn't step backwards in karma, PA status with regard to four letter words and other expressions of frustration; Can anyone say, "Welcome back Crested-Duck?"


    This "STAY OFF MY THREAD" button could be utilized at the point the author read a post on his/her thread that distracted / contradicted their message.

    What is the argument to those claiming they should have the right to call...


    Start your Own Thread!

    While I do believe the enjoyable act of hitting the thread author's "Remove and Ban" button would be frequently employed, the greater result is as stated above to the benefit of Project Avalon. To the objective of all members, I believe threads would be much more constructive, thus accomplishing bonding and team-building toward the greater goals of humanity. It might also reduce the stress of those around us at our personal domains and beyond...

    Show your support for the Thread Remove and Ban Button—For the Good of PA!

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    I believe this implementation would destroy Avalon. Can you imagine the animosity generated by people banning others from their threads, left and right? We'd all become mini-dictators for our individual threads.

    Step out of line: banned.
    Say something I don't agree with: banned.
    Make fun of me: banned.

    Ridiculous... why not sit in a small room and just listen to yourself talk?

    Would you have banned me for this comment?

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    S-L. No, and thank you for your response. I do appreciate and understand why this would be a very unwelcome feature to the negatives; they would be forced to play in their own "negative" playground, perhaps alone.

    I believe the result is that people will be much more careful and respectful of author and the "spirit" of the thread.

    To your point, the negative of hitting the "Ban" button is that it would also delete the "bump" one enjoys from "any" post / response; it's pro/con would be considered for each use. I believe it's feature might invite the return of so many positives that have recently left and more positive threads by those that remain; they are sorely missed.

    But because of the "understood" power of the author, it would likely be used less in time.
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    EG, I don't know? I don't think it is that simple.

    I have seen the system you are talking about abused on another forum and by a well known personality that I will refrain from naming here.

    If the OP just deletes any criticism then where does that get us?

    But you make a good point, my vote is: .....undecided!

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    There are many different kinds of awards for different achievements. This thread deserves an award. I will say no more.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    This would create more work for the mods as multitudes of threads would emerge from p!ssed off members talking about others banning them. the mods would then have to trawl through all these making sure members were not being attacked.

    this is a knee jerk reaction

    many of my most valuable lessons are when i am corrected by this community on my posts by people who are not scared to tell it how it is. dont mess with this important interaction. common sense and slightly thicker skin required imho. dealing with ego helps this.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Quote Posted by gooty64 (here)
    EG, I don't know? I don't think it is that simple.

    I have seen the system you are talking about abused on another forum and by a well known personality that I will refrain from naming here.

    If the OP just deletes any criticism then where does that get us?

    But you make a good point, my vote is: .....undecided!
    gooty,

    Its use would be weighed carefully, or the thread could end where it started. Perhaps, the knowledge of the feature alone would foster better discourse; perhaps it would be used very little then...
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    Quote Posted by S-L (here)
    I believe this implementation would destroy Avalon. Can you imagine the animosity generated by people banning others from their threads, left and right? We'd all become mini-dictators for our individual threads.

    Step out of line: banned.
    Say something I don't agree with: banned.
    Make fun of me: banned.

    Ridiculous... why not sit in a small room and just listen to yourself talk?

    Would you have banned me for this comment?

    Sounds like GLP (God Like Productions)

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    hmm, not sure Energy Gardener... its a bit like suggesting machine guns are the solution to conflict...
    is anybody using the 'report' button to good effect?
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    There are many different kinds of awards for different achievements. This thread deserves an award. I will say no more.
    Why don't you just say what you mean, wizard?

    I like you, mate, but with the best will in the world ... how about less energy sounding clever and more energy being clever?

    If I didn't give two hoots about you I wouldn't bother making this post. I think your cleverness would be awesome (and often is) if it were less snide. I love you, wizard. Please be more magnanimous, as I know it is in you to be. Then even a moron like me will find it less easy to pick holes in your responses.

    I also agree with you! Are you being modwiz the grey ... or the white? Both have enormous merits obviously!

    With love (genuinely)

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Can I suggest this idea be tried as a test for one thread only first. Then we can see in practice whether it would be to any benefit. If it doesn't work and too many problems then call it a day. Nothing ventured nothing gained as they say.
    Surely the mods would have to install some button for the thread starter to press.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    We do have the 'ignore' thing - why don't you use it?

    I have an in-built 'ignore' system,
    it doesn't always work, that's true -
    but if it doesn't, there's immediately
    a replacement program running that's called
    'learn' [that's actually running in the background all the time].

    I'm fine with these. Try 'em out!
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Why not start a forum of your own, where you were the only one
    allowed to post. That would solve the problem with members that
    disagree with you. But wait, how could you then use the "TPTW and
    misguided idiots labels"? LOL

    All is well


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    There is no sharing.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    There is another possible solution you may have disregarded..?

    Mediation by PM...

    Re: Let's make a Deal..!

    For the 1st time I came to an agreement with another 'Avalonian Member' offering him the choice to stay off my 'Threads' and I would offer no further Commentary on his...

    Seems to be working out just fine...

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Another thing. Choosing an appropriate thread subject would be paramount to success. It could start off as an enquiry as in Krishnamurti style where we enquire together to discover something of the truth we hadn't quite seen before we started. No conclusion until the end. These are the things that would have to be worked out prior to the start.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    There is another possible solution you may have disregarded..?

    Mediation by PM...

    Re: Let's make a Deal..!

    For the 1st time I came to an agreement with another 'Avalonian Member' offering him the choice to stay off my 'Threads' and I would offer no further Commentary on his...

    Seems to be working out just fine...
    In effect, a "mutual ban" button. That is likely what would happen automatically initially, but I believe the stated objective to my thread in the long run, would be more civil discourse and respect to each other's threads and their founded purpose.
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Quote Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
    I, and perhaps others, would be compelled to submit more creative threads knowing that we could edit / remove the now-expected negatives that attack our every premise—regardless if they are TPTW or misguided idiots. This proposed thread author privilege would allow the thread to maintain the positive objective it was created to provide, knowing it is within our control of which members may participate, avoiding other negative issues we currently endure.
    Such a facility already exists .

    Click on "Groups", near the top of most forum screens, and "Create Group", and you can create a group and decide who's allowed in the group, which controls who can post to threads in that group. I've not used the Group facility much, in part because they are happily "self moderating", requiring almost zero mod team involvement, hence I can be a little slow on explaining the details of their usage.

    As for some of the specific examples you mention above, I suspect that the posters of channeled information were frustrated not only by negative posts on their own threads, but also by separate threads negative to channeling and by mod team decisions negative to channeling, such as the recent decisions to (1) make the channeled sub-forum visible only to forum members, not the public and (2) more actively enforce the excerpt, don't copy and paste guideline. In the case of crested-duck, he got in to difficulty on his own thread, attacking the forum and other members of the forum, so unless he banned himself from his own thread, the outcome would have been the same. In the case of Pie'n'eal, forming a group to discuss Buddism or other such topics might well work, and it would enable Pie'n'eal to remove from those discussions those whom he prefers not participate. Hmm ... looking now ... I see that Tarka the Duck and Pie'n'eal were active participants in a group called "Meditation Group", which Tarka created, so clearly Pie'n'eal knows of this facility.
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    Quote Posted by EnergyGardener (here)
    Can anyone say, "Welcome Back Pie, Darla, and many others...?"
    Oh, I'm liking this thread, EnergyGardener...

    The way I'm reading this thread; there's different levels of discussion and ideas. Mine is about intentions of welcoming back, forgiveness and the like, so that's the purpose of me adding to this thread.

    Sometimes, our words get ahead of us. I'll speak for myself, there are times when I wished I didn't say what I did. I just didn't read the post closely enough, or understand the intention of the responder. And I'm also learning that it is sometimes it's a language barrier.

    I'm big on a clean slate and a hand shake.
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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

    EG go start a group as Paul described. Let's get a going.

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    Default Re: STAY OFF MY THREAD "Remove & Ban Button"

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    is anybody using the 'report' button to good effect?
    Not many .

    The Report button can be used in a couple of ways.

    It can be used to handle some a technical detail or question with a specific post ... it's an easy way to pass such a question or request involving a specific post to anyone on the mod team, and it automatically passes a link to the post you're reporting.

    It can also be used to raise a concern with some other members behavior. This is the more frequent usage. But such usage has a feel of "telling the teacher on another student", which will usually feel more negative than privately asking a play mate to play in another sandbox.
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