The unraveling of a great Secret

[Sebastion]

And that is why the use of language really, really sucks. It has perverted so much that it is almost incomprehensible to imagine!

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It does seem like that system of substituting language for the actual expression of the heart has further disconnected us from it. Jorr mentioned in another thread that even unconditional love has become a condition.

Lol, every time we open our mouths we create another condition. Spell casting!

Posted by Sebastion (here)
I am now even more appreciative of what ljwheat has said about language and the tower of Babel. After thinking more about what I have written in the description of the Heart of One, I can see now from a certain perspective and point of view, that putting words together in any way regarding the Heart, is tantamount to and borders on a defilement. I will refrain from anymore descriptions in that regard.

I can now see more clearly than ever how language has severely hampered, impaired and enslaved the human mind. It is not a pleasant realization by any means.

[ljwheat]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It does seem like that system of substituting language for the actual expression of the heart has further disconnected us from it. Jorr mentioned in another thread that even unconditional love has become a condition.

Lol, every time we open our mouths we create another condition. Spell casting!

Posted by Sebastion (here)
I am now even more appreciative of what ljwheat has said about language and the tower of Babel. After thinking more about what I have written in the description of the Heart of One, I can see now from a certain perspective and point of view, that putting words together in any way regarding the Heart, is tantamount to and borders on a defilement. I will refrain from anymore descriptions in that regard.

I can now see more clearly than ever how language has severely hampered, impaired and enslaved the human mind. It is not a pleasant realization by any means.

Plants: a study using a very sanative electromagnetic tiny pick up sensors attached to a spider sitting on a plant and a separate device attached to the plant. Found that the plant knew a split second before the spider was going to move, moved.

Another test showing how the plant knew a human in another room, was about to stand up and head in its direction the moment the humans thoughts pondered the idea of getting up and going into the room were the plant was.

A pet dog, asleep on the couch, wakes up and dances around the house when its human owner heads for the door to come home from work across town.

The leaf the shaman places on the tongue 9eagle9 spoke of was it the leaf or the idea of the leafs owner source of the tree the shaman was connecting with?

A tangerine the thought opens the memory engrained on the energy stored on the minds ability to communicate energy, pure energy un corrupted or defiled by language the is-ness that connects all things with out labels (words) getting in the way. To know its completeness (no words needed) as energy connects with its self.

Inject the impurity of words or words that have been tampered with or injected like a vaccine with a micro chip energy blocker. Wa Laa you have the fall of men and babble I don’t under stand a word your saying. Bla bla bla.

The essence of nature is as everything in this universe is vibration and energy. Free flowing, the smell of honey is a vibration to the brain pure and uninterrupted, the sight of a beautiful sun set is pure undefiled energy throw energy to the brain with the eye’s no distortion. The taste of clean air is a vibration of pure love vibration to the brain deeply in hailed, when we meditate, stopping the words pushing them aside so the nature that we are.

The true energy of the (is) flows totally connected to itself. Words are the disconnected (VEIL) we have trouble getting passed. Move the words out of the way and suddenly the connection is made, threw intention energy at the sending hits the reciever the intention--- (is) focused to. A tree, a dog, a person, a spider. Nature uncorrupted by words. all the senses are one, connected to the brain,--words are in the brain and not one of the 6 senses. words are in the brain, why? who put them there. sences connect us to others senses -- not words. I see you is a sense connection not a verbal one. as Namaste is a vibrational connection not a verbal one.

"If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them."

Replace the (speaking) in the above phrase with “communicating” and the word (language) with “vibration” undefiled energy transfer, connecting with each other as nature dose. A hole different ball game emerges. deep deep deep lets inject words to stop this deepness. so no one can ever be on the same page ever again.

A tangerine suddenly has the same taste, look, and feel, to all nature, everything séances, feels, see’s, tastes the flavors. All who make contact with the energy of the tangerine, suddenly connects with “ I SEE YOU” pure communication. MMMMMmmmm tangerine. (is) on the same page with all that (is),-- energy no deceptions, how can a tangerine taste like a orange? It cant but put a lot of words and distort the crap out of it. For what purpose?

You have free will, but first let us babble up your language for you first. Now go ahead and play the game of life, while the rest of nature functions in perfect harmony, We can not even see ourselves in the mirror placed before us. And this person who did this to us is called GOD? Which makes me a codependent slave.

My turn to blaspheme the religion of “ in the beginning was the word, and the word was with GOD.” that idiot has a BIG EGO, don’t you think? ooops

[9eagle9]

Whores of Babble-On.

[Sebastion]

ljwheat, 9eagle9 and Jorr-I find that your words are re-awakening within me a deeper reverence for "life" itself. I am beginning now to see why I have ever had the desire to become an old fashioned mountain man, free from language and free from all arrogance. A complete communion with all that is, in deep appreciation, a reverence, for all that is.......thank you.....

Posted by ljwheat (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It does seem like that system of substituting language for the actual expression of the heart has further disconnected us from it. Jorr mentioned in another thread that even unconditional love has become a condition.

Lol, every time we open our mouths we create another condition. Spell casting!

Posted by Sebastion (here)
I am now even more appreciative of what ljwheat has said about language and the tower of Babel. After thinking more about what I have written in the description of the Heart of One, I can see now from a certain perspective and point of view, that putting words together in any way regarding the Heart, is tantamount to and borders on a defilement. I will refrain from anymore descriptions in that regard.

I can now see more clearly than ever how language has severely hampered, impaired and enslaved the human mind. It is not a pleasant realization by any means.

Plants: a study using a very sanative electromagnetic tiny pick up sensors attached to a spider sitting on a plant and a separate device attached to the plant. Found that the plant knew a split second before the spider was going to move, moved.

Another test showing how the plant knew a human in another room, was about to stand up and head in its direction the moment the humans thoughts pondered the idea of getting up and going into the room were the plant was.

A pet dog, asleep on the couch, wakes up and dances around the house when its human owner heads for the door to come home from work across town.

The leaf the shaman places on the tongue 9eagle9 spoke of was it the leaf or the idea of the leafs owner source of the tree the shaman was connecting with?

A tangerine the thought opens the memory engrained on the energy stored on the minds ability to communicate energy, pure energy un corrupted or defiled by language the is-ness that connects all things with out labels (words) getting in the way. To know its completeness (no words needed) as energy connects with its self.

Inject the impurity of words or words that have been tampered with or injected like a vaccine with a micro chip energy blocker. Wa Laa you have the fall of men and babble I don’t under stand a word your saying. Bla bla bla.

The essence of nature is as everything in this universe is vibration and energy. Free flowing, the smell of honey is a vibration to the brain pure and uninterrupted, the sight of a beautiful sun set is pure undefiled energy throw energy to the brain with the eye’s no distortion. The taste of clean air is a vibration of pure love vibration to the brain deeply in hailed, when we meditate, stopping the words pushing them aside so the nature that we are.

The true energy of the (is) flows totally connected to itself. Words are the disconnected (VEIL) we have trouble getting passed. Move the words out of the way and suddenly the connection is made, threw intention energy at the sending hits the reciever the intention--- (is) focused to. A tree, a dog, a person, a spider. Nature uncorrupted by words. all the senses are one, connected to the brain,--words are in the brain and not one of the 6 senses. words are in the brain, why? who put them there. sences connect us to others senses -- not words. I see you is a sense connection not a verbal one. as Namaste is a vibrational connection not a verbal one.

"If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them."

Replace the (speaking) in the above phrase with “communicating” and the word (language) with “vibration” undefiled energy transfer, connecting with each other as nature dose. A hole different ball game emerges. deep deep deep lets inject words to stop this deepness. so no one can ever be on the same page ever again.

A tangerine suddenly has the same taste, look, and feel, to all nature, everything séances, feels, see’s, tastes the flavors. All who make contact with the energy of the tangerine, suddenly connects with “ I SEE YOU” pure communication. MMMMMmmmm tangerine. (is) on the same page with all that (is),-- energy no deceptions, how can a tangerine taste like a orange? It cant but put a lot of words and distort the crap out of it. For what purpose?

You have free will, but first let us babble up your language for you first. Now go ahead and play the game of life, while the rest of nature functions in perfect harmony, We can not even see ourselves in the mirror placed before us. And this person who did this to us is called GOD? Which makes me a codependent slave.

My turn to blaspheme the religion of “ in the beginning was the word, and the word was with GOD.” that idiot has a BIG EGO, don’t you think? ooops

[PathWalker]

We are here for a reason.
This very dark and dense reality, its a game with a set of rules.
Play it well and you graduate.
Break the rules and you repeat.

[Sebastion]

and more then half your life is composed of trying to figure out what the rules are......lol

Posted by PathWalker (here)


We are here for a reason.
This very dark and dense reality, its a game with a set of rules.
Play it well and you graduate.
Break the rules and you repeat.

[ljwheat]

In the Movie Avatar, (“learn our ways, Jake Suely and maybe we can cure your insanity”) latter --- He earns a place among the people, standing before the chief, chief places hand on Jakes shoulder and as all present laying of hands,--- no words all connect as one, creating if you connect the dots, ---the pattern is the flower of life, sacred geometry 6 senses connecting to other 6 senses in that moment synoptic energy as one all was known. All brains merged as one. Energy flowed freely connected. No words can covey or stand in front of or in place of the (IS) MMMMMmmmm pop corn can you smell it? LOL John XXX


ps: there are those that can't We must hold the space for them, there are meny Jake Suely's still not able to feel the (IS) energy of life.

[Sebastion]

I saw and recognized that too, lj, made me want to get up and dive into becoming a part of that...lol.....if only...you could

Posted by ljwheat (here)
In the Movie Avatar, (“learn our ways, Jake Suely and maybe we can cure your insanity”) latter --- He earns a place among the people, standing before the chief, chief places hand on Jakes shoulder and as all present laying of hands,--- no words all connect as one, creating if you connect the dots, ---the pattern is the flower of life, sacred geometry 6 senses connecting to other 6 senses in that moment synoptic energy as one all was known. All brains merged as one. Energy flowed freely connected. No words can covey or stand in front of or in place of the (IS) MMMMMmmmm pop corn can you smell it? LOL John XXX


ps: there are those that can't We must hold the space for them, there are meny Jake Suely's still not able to feel the (IS) energy of life.

[9eagle9]

The axial traditions of the east once taught denial of the physical or material world, when it was the very denial that kept us attached to it. Resistance. Began to know much of it (not all of it) was just greater part of the whole. Some conditions were created to 'explain' a mystery and that is where our programming began. That which doesn't belong in the world.

Wanting to go 'be' where everything is expressed without artificial contrivances is a symptom of getting yourself out of the game. You aren't resisting it but neither are you entrenching but going to a place where when a creature with wings flying you can know its a bird. No words needed.

Fetching oneself from a place where a persons language defines who they are rather than the expression showing what they are.

We are supposed to be evolving past what Christ could show and or teach, or the Buddha or whatever else ascended master could show. That proves our evolvement and that is what they expected.

The student becomes the master of the game. In all these thousands of years one expects some advancement from what was previously taught. Otherwise there no evolution. Look at how many religions are stuck in the past--or in time. The Jews are waiting for the first arrival of the messiah, the Christians the second, and when neither showed up more conditions were created to make a 'savior'. Aliens are coming to get us. That's spiritual not spiritual progression or evolvement but transference. Then there's those who knew salvation and then exceeded what was previously made known by the masters. What did we need saving from. The game.

Can you imagine expressing that in public, "I now know more than Christ did (or at least as much). Or at least the ability to express that knowingness to demonstrate the reality of it.

You will have a millions screaming in outrage.

And a few shrugging and saying, Well God I'd fooking hope so after all this time!

Why has Christ not returned. Well ....because of the evolution of those who really understood what was meant by transcending the world.

[ljwheat]

Brilliant and deeply felt. Thanks 9eagle9



"PLUS" he said you shall do greater things than I.

[Sebastion]

and that is why the term "defying the deities" is/can be so offensive.....to some.....maybe a lot? lol

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
The axial traditions of the east once taught denial of the physical or material world, when it was the very denial that kept us attached to it. Resistance. Began to know much of it (not all of it) was just greater part of the whole. Some conditions were created to 'explain' a mystery and that is where our programming began. That which doesn't belong in the world.

Wanting to go 'be' where everything is expressed without artificial contrivances is a symptom of getting yourself out of the game. You aren't resisting it but neither are you entrenching but going to a place where when a creature with wings flying you can know its a bird. No words needed.

Fetching oneself from a place where a persons language defines who they are rather than the expression showing what they are.

We are supposed to be evolving past what Christ could show and or teach, or the Buddha or whatever else ascended master could show. That proves our evolvement and that is what they expected.

The student becomes the master of the game. In all these thousands of years one expects some advancement from what was previously taught. Otherwise there no evolution. Look at how many religions are stuck in the past--or in time. The Jews are waiting for the first arrival of the messiah, the Christians the second, and when neither showed up more conditions were created to make a 'savior'. Aliens are coming to get us. That's spiritual not spiritual progression or evolvement but transference. Then there's those who knew salvation and then exceeded what was previously made known by the masters. What did we need saving from. The game.

Can you imagine expressing that in public, "I now know more than Christ did (or at least as much). Or at least the ability to express that knowingness to demonstrate the reality of it.

You will have a millions screaming in outrage.

And a few shrugging and saying, Well God I'd fooking hope so after all this time!

Why has Christ not returned. Well ....because of the evolution of those who really understood what was meant by transcending the world.

[9eagle9]

Dimensions are viewed at a 360 degree angle , one angle is expressed thus...

Thousands of years ago we inhabited the second dimension. Everything was duality. God and Devil. Black and white. Good and Bad. Body and spirit. Art work was weirdly two dimensional. Not that people were aware that it was spirit, it was something they were told. Remember the stories of how 'spirit' came here to play and got caught? One dimensional. One dimensional means to people as unlimited. No dimension is limited unless one gets stuck there. Obviously the world of spirit still exists and didn't go anywhere. Nothing went anywhere so there's not place to go to...lol. When people talk about shifting or moving into another dimension I'm thinking "you're already there, but not conscious or aware of it". We can take the 3d world which is composed of three dimensions and keep expanding on it forever. We can build more cars, more houses, more people more sky scrapers--more three dimensional forms. Hell people are even saying the earth is expanding! Its not limited . Height breadth and length. Those can go on forever. Start drawing a straight line now and take it to the edge of the universe. Oops no edge, that line will go on forever. Its when we close these dimensions and create what may be considered geometric forms with them we risk limiting. Being in the box takes on a whole new definition now.

Then we entered the third dimension (and theres still those caught in the 2nd). Body, Mind and Spirit.Then people started expressing through artwork--Threes. Triskeles, pyramids. We got some depth to ourselves.

Then came consciousness, or perhaps ego, ego overgrowth when we realized we had consciousness and the implications of that we either trapped ourselves or began to liberate ourselves. A 4th dimension is added. There are still those stuck in the 3rd dimension waiting to move into the ....5th dimension: Unconsciousness. Not conscious but aware. Out of the dimension of consciousness. No limits after that , you are everything , everywhere and everybody once you break that consciousness barrier. But you can move back into your 3 and 4 dimensional self, but we became aware we are multi faceted. Multi dimensional. How many times have seen people who instead of multi faceted become fixed on one idea of themselves.

I look at people who claim psychic ability and witness them either accessing the 1st dimension or the 4th and having no idea what they are intuiting at all. Or able to tell the difference between the two.

Mind these aspects were not uploaded us in us as time moved on , they were dimensions existing that we were not aware of .

So here we are mind, body, spirit, consciousness--dimensions, different levels of density-- Some of us have moved to that place too, 5th dimension broke that ceiling of consciousness. And some beyond finding different dimensions of themselves.

Of course this too is expressed in language and labeling---one two three four five. Language limits the expression. It should be shown and not told. But because one who isn't aware of these dimensions and people resist being shown, . People know are stuck in consciousness not able to access spirit. They confused the two. Most spirituality these days is doing patching of the small self. Spirit is becoming better able to circumvent the barrier of language.

Transcending and ascending got distorted this way too. I may be not be able to see what is going on in my kitchen till I get a step ladder out and rise above it all. I haven't left the kitchen or denied it or evolved from it, I can see it from another perspective. I can actually see what is going on in my kitchen by rising above it all but still remaining in the kitchen.

That was too much for my mind so I'm off to feed the horses.

Do we have conflict. Sure be a 5th dimensional person attempting to express themelves to those stuck in the 3rd and 4th dimensions.

And some are still waiting to find those dimensions of themselves. They know they exist, but its because they were told not because they are experiencing them. The psyche is doing all sort of unimaginable things and people have no idea they are doing them.

[jorr lundstrom]

I appreciate this thread. We are writing out from our own experiences
very much. LOL I like that because then it can be real communication.
Language is a tricky business, words means so different from human
to human. Many people today seem to live their whole life in their
language. I can be sitting for hours staring at a post, writing nothing
just processing a lot of stuff, some pouring out from the Belzebubian
marshes. LOL Sometimes its really hard to find words, even in my own
language, and sometimes I dont give a damn about it. Sometimes I wish
I could find words, but alas, they have receded to the shadows. LOL
Im sitting here trying to find out wot I want to say right now, if anything.
Right now I actually have nothing more to say. Thanks.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[ljwheat]

On the lighter side this could happen to you -- being politically correct or should I say verbally correct. (complete) ! LOL

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh8Hp_CChdo

ooopppsss (comply) or die. He He COMPLETE, COMPLETE,

CCOOMMPPLLEETTEE!

[ljwheat]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
I appreciate this thread. We are writing out from our own experiences
very much. LOL I like that because then it can be real communication.
Language is a tricky business, words means so different from human
to human. Many people today seem to live their whole life in their
language. I can be sitting for hours staring at a post, writing nothing
just processing a lot of stuff, some pouring out from the Belzebubian
marshes. LOL Sometimes its really hard to find words, even in my own
language, and sometimes I dont give a damn about it. Sometimes I wish
I could find words, but alas, they have receded to the shadows. LOL
Im sitting here trying to find out wot I want to say right now, if anything.
Right now I actually have nothing more to say. Thanks.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

WOW Look at the time stamp your's at 14:00 and Mine at 14:09 posted at the same time what a match. I mean were we on the same vib thread with this or what cool. something made me think about this video, and when i post it i read your post seconds before mine came up...energy link?

[Sebastion]

My god Jorr! You have just said it all! lol

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
I appreciate this thread. We are writing out from our own experiences
very much. LOL I like that because then it can be real communication.
Language is a tricky business, words means so different from human
to human. Many people today seem to live their whole life in their
language. I can be sitting for hours staring at a post, writing nothing
just processing a lot of stuff, some pouring out from the Belzebubian
marshes. LOL Sometimes its really hard to find words, even in my own
language, and sometimes I dont give a damn about it. Sometimes I wish
I could find words, but alas, they have receded to the shadows. LOL
Im sitting here trying to find out wot I want to say right now, if anything.
Right now I actually have nothing more to say. Thanks.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Sebastion]

9eagle9-that was too much for my mind as well, but I don't have any horses to feed. What am I gonna do now? lol

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Dimensions are viewed at a 360 degree angle , one angle is expressed thus...

Thousands of years ago we inhabited the second dimension. Everything was duality. God and Devil. Black and white. Good and Bad. Body and spirit. Art work was weirdly two dimensional. Not that people were aware that it was spirit, it was something they were told. Remember the stories of how 'spirit' came here to play and got caught? One dimensional. One dimensional means to people as unlimited. No dimension is limited unless one gets stuck there. Obviously the world of spirit still exists and didn't go anywhere. Nothing went anywhere so there's not place to go to...lol. When people talk about shifting or moving into another dimension I'm thinking "you're already there, but not conscious or aware of it". We can take the 3d world which is composed of three dimensions and keep expanding on it forever. We can build more cars, more houses, more people more sky scrapers--more three dimensional forms. Hell people are even saying the earth is expanding! Its not limited . Height breadth and length. Those can go on forever. Start drawing a straight line now and take it to the edge of the universe. Oops no edge, that line will go on forever. Its when we close these dimensions and create what may be considered geometric forms with them we risk limiting. Being in the box takes on a whole new definition now.

Then we entered the third dimension (and theres still those caught in the 2nd). Body, Mind and Spirit.Then people started expressing through artwork--Threes. Triskeles, pyramids. We got some depth to ourselves.

Then came consciousness, or perhaps ego, ego overgrowth when we realized we had consciousness and the implications of that we either trapped ourselves or began to liberate ourselves. A 4th dimension is added. There are still those stuck in the 3rd dimension waiting to move into the ....5th dimension: Unconsciousness. Not conscious but aware. Out of the dimension of consciousness. No limits after that , you are everything , everywhere and everybody once you break that consciousness barrier. But you can move back into your 3 and 4 dimensional self, but we became aware we are multi faceted. Multi dimensional. How many times have seen people who instead of multi faceted become fixed on one idea of themselves.

I look at people who claim psychic ability and witness them either accessing the 1st dimension or the 4th and having no idea what they are intuiting at all. Or able to tell the difference between the two.

Mind these aspects were not uploaded us in us as time moved on , they were dimensions existing that we were not aware of .

So here we are mind, body, spirit, consciousness--dimensions, different levels of density-- Some of us have moved to that place too, 5th dimension broke that ceiling of consciousness. And some beyond finding different dimensions of themselves.

Of course this too is expressed in language and labeling---one two three four five. Language limits the expression. It should be shown and not told. But because one who isn't aware of these dimensions and people resist being shown, . People know are stuck in consciousness not able to access spirit. They confused the two. Most spirituality these days is doing patching of the small self. Spirit is becoming better able to circumvent the barrier of language.

Transcending and ascending got distorted this way too. I may be not be able to see what is going on in my kitchen till I get a step ladder out and rise above it all. I haven't left the kitchen or denied it or evolved from it, I can see it from another perspective. I can actually see what is going on in my kitchen by rising above it all but still remaining in the kitchen.

That was too much for my mind so I'm off to feed the horses.

Do we have conflict. Sure be a 5th dimensional person attempting to express themelves to those stuck in the 3rd and 4th dimensions.

And some are still waiting to find those dimensions of themselves. They know they exist, but its because they were told not because they are experiencing them. The psyche is doing all sort of unimaginable things and people have no idea they are doing them.

[Delight]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
My god Jorr! You have just said it all! lol

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
I appreciate this thread. We are writing out from our own experiences
very much. LOL I like that because then it can be real communication.
Language is a tricky business, words means so different from human
to human. Many people today seem to live their whole life in their
language. I can be sitting for hours staring at a post, writing nothing
just processing a lot of stuff, some pouring out from the Belzebubian
marshes. LOL Sometimes its really hard to find words, even in my own
language, and sometimes I dont give a damn about it. Sometimes I wish
I could find words, but alas, they have receded to the shadows. LOL
Im sitting here trying to find out wot I want to say right now, if anything.
Right now I actually have nothing more to say. Thanks.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

COMPLETE,COMPLETE,COMPLETE......
Great now what?

Funny!! I missed Sebastion asking "What will Sebastion do now?" Must be the question of the day....

[Sebastion]

I am trying to figure out how to communicate on a forum without using language! rofl!

Posted by Delight (here)

Posted by Sebastion (here)
My god Jorr! You have just said it all! lol

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
I appreciate this thread. We are writing out from our own experiences
very much. LOL I like that because then it can be real communication.
Language is a tricky business, words means so different from human
to human. Many people today seem to live their whole life in their
language. I can be sitting for hours staring at a post, writing nothing
just processing a lot of stuff, some pouring out from the Belzebubian
marshes. LOL Sometimes its really hard to find words, even in my own
language, and sometimes I dont give a damn about it. Sometimes I wish
I could find words, but alas, they have receded to the shadows. LOL
Im sitting here trying to find out wot I want to say right now, if anything.
Right now I actually have nothing more to say. Thanks.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

COMPLETE,COMPLETE,COMPLETE......
Great now what?

Funny!! I missed Sebastion asking "What will Sebastion do now?" Must be the question of the day....

[jorr lundstrom]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q&ob=av2e


All is well


Jorr 2.0