The unraveling of a great Secret

[Sebastion]

Looks like the office of a very creative individual, wouldn't be afraid to imagine some really cool stuff was engineered there!

Posted by wavydome (here)
I got a little head start by venturing to the big city, first thing, after leaving home. Sort of a blind plunge there, but, it much more abruptly, built up the "necessity level". The perceptions sharpen and discernment lessons came 24/7. I was technically supposed to go to Viet nam, but instead, eventually, went to the hills. I knew too much, long life story there, (wannabe whistleblower dad, saw too much in WWII. It could never make sense to me

A gentrifying, rural, culture, then taught me how to live at the pristine edge of suburbia. Which means very low cost and philosophically very-comfortable. So as to gain independence and stay out of the box. Freedom was very key. So as to define life personally. Make life flow but insist it is fun. Make animate the inanimate. Size up civilization's design parameters. Invoke fun charactertures which then remains with you for the long, long run.

[Sebastion]

9eagle9-do you have any information on the significance of totem animal energies? I have had some major lucid dreams occur to me many years ago concerning several different animals, but bear energy has been with me all my life.

For instance, the dark side of the feminine was represented to me in an all too lucid dream as a very large, black, very enraged black bear sow with flaming red eyes. I was to have 2 run ins with her as it turned out. The first incident, I was able to escape her wrath yet she telepathically told me that we would meet again, as I ran from her laughing hysterically in my terror. The second time, I had to face that wrath physically and it nearly ended my life as a result. I am not at liberty to reveal the details.

[9eagle9]

Do you have the rest of your life? (he he)

The more I know about animal totems, daily I'm shown more.

To start is an understanding of totems and energy. They are not two separate events. We are not separate from totems. We may not share aspects with certain totems but it is about sharing aspects.

Plant spirit helpers are totems too and roughly this occurs in the same way.

Totems are aspects of ourselves that represent what we have gotten away from. Animals not having the same sort of consciousness and a different sort of ego than humans are actually more trustworthy. Particularly in the wild , where they have not been conditioned. An animals ego is more physical oriented, and survival mode than a since of self gratification or greed.

So they carry the energy of aspects of ourselves that have lost, set aside, were tampered away from, ignored or however we've gotten away from them.

People tend to be enamored by non physical guides of any sort. Forgetting the spirit is expressed through the physical. We are in a physical world , our spirit is expressed here if we allow it or remove the conditons or program that disallow its full free expression. So are other spirits, expressed through a physical body. Spirit speaks through other people.

Animal totems express different dimensions of themselves and we learn to respect all dimensions. The spiritual and the physical. In some respects animals who have the physical ego going on strong, an animal may not come to you in physical form but will come in spiritual form. Or they will come to you in a fashion that honors you but keeps them safe. Most of animal calling is done unconsciously at first. The first animal I called as an adult was a skunk..lol. it came right to my hand. When the skunk and I both realized how we were interacting we both went into fear mode. I fled.

Skunk brings out that aspect that teaches one to stand their ground. The skunk has no reason to back down, Skunk has a simple but powerful means of coaxing you to back down that has no language, not a weapon but is a naturally occuring aspect of the animal.

We learn to respect. To learn to call an animal in physical form , is not a place for people who have something to prove or that the animal will validate in some fashion. That's another co-dependency, an unhealthy attachment. This is why people tend to 'pick' powerful animal totems, the glamorous fancy ones, they think the totem will validate them. Rather like kissing and telling or 'taking trophy animals'. They are in no way in alignment with that animal .No different than people who hunt for trophy animals. If one is patient the animal gives you their own trophy. They willingly give a token of themselves to remind you of shared aspects.



some totems come into to share something and you don't really align with them, its something one needs to know that my ultimately end up in alignment with another totem. Crow may lead to wolf. They will give a token too of that medicine. There's not need to trophy hunt spiritually one only needs to accept what one may percieve as undesirable aspects of one's self. Who assigned the value of undesirable? Not the totem, it didn't. We did. Then we wonder why the totem doesn't express or make itself evident. If you have a wolf totem you will have a wolfish aspect to yourself. You can't force it because....you don't have it or you are unmindfully suspressing it. An animal will express itself according to it's nature. You let cow in your home and it will still need to be milked and jet liquid manure all over the place. It doesn't care about your white carpet and sterile environment.Why should it. For that matter why did you invite it in if you were going to make its aspects unwelcome.

I don't care if its meergoogoo living on Mars a totem will find a way to gift you.

Acceptance is the better portion of alignment. You may ask an totem to share with you an aspect you may feel you don't have, but it that is a naturally occurring aspect of yourSELF it will impose enough of its own energy to bring that forward in you.

Are we willing to accept that a totems' expression can be in death? I have had totems commit suicide on me. An owl striking me in the heart center when I accepted my heart knowing and my intelligence. When I accepted that fully the owl that came to roost outside my kitchen window stopped screaming at me all night when I resisted my heart's wisdom.

People confuse admiration of a totem with alignment. I admire tigers, I am not in alignment with their natural ebb and flow. I respect that and the tiger respects me back. If you want or desire an aspect of animal without finding it in yourself, its just an attachment, and unhealthy one sided love affair. Attempting to use or thieve it's energy.

The totem really doesn't choose you, its not a popularity contest, its about sharing and alignment and no contest is present in those realms. There's similar aspects at work which one shares. Energy is attractive. You accept certain aspects of yourself and the totem(s) will make themselves known to you.

When I accepted (not in this life time) that side of myself that says 'Ha ha if you can catch me you ride me,' I fell into alignment with the horse. That's what a horse does. When I accepted my right to freedom, my air, my power, that I am strong and vulnerable at the same time, i go further into alignment with horse. I am fire horse woman, (Chinese Astrology) they are hugely unpopular and undesirable, they were put to death in Eastern culture because they made unsuitable wives.

I accept that. Ha ha, if you can catch me you can kill me.

'IF'

Fire horse and water horse.


Other obvious totem animals are chickens. I accepted that one can live in a community and make it a working community and still have pecking and scratching, and outrage and it still a working community. Chickens are by no means cowards but one seldom sees one admitting to having a 'weak' totem. Chickens aren't weak.

so someone who thinks they are in alignment with a predator animal and decides my chicken aspect makes me weak and sets abuses that totem in way meant to attack my aspect will have a wake up call. There are several aspects, someone attacks the chicken and the horse will kick.

No contest. The totem instead attempts to bring out an aspect that you share with that animal.

The aspects of my totems are self evidential and they are translated into human values that are less than flattering....lol. You get a mind conditioned human zombie addressing a totemic aspect there's an artificial language being spoken and a natural one. Ultimately nature wins. Why do I poke my nose where it doesn't belong? Why does the horse do it?

And eagle. Once i accepted that I NOTICE everything, then here comes the eagle. They notice everything too. Vision. They see things coming from a long way away.

Once I accepted that I'm not being run over anymore, that I can clean up death, here comes crow. You seldom ever see a crow as road kill, its hard to run a crow over. Raven Grimmassi has tremendous stories about crows that he spent an afternoon relating to me. He is all crow. You see the crow in him and the crow sees itself in him.

Some animals no longer have non physical form like dragons. Is that self evidential. Sure I don't anyone wants to see it but again, spirit is expressed through the physical. Now the dragon no longer has physical form who will it express through if the aspects of one's dragon is accepted?

When my dragon first came to me, I was accused of over-reacting and being angry. But it was far beyond that. There was no angry present, or even a reaction it was simply expressing that aspect with the entity breathing fire into it. You don't fly the dragon it flies you. That dragons lends that energy to that aspect and it completely took me over for a time to accomplish something needed to be accomplished. . Of course I succumb to the guilt of behaving inappropriately, but a physical turtle came along and shared its wisdom to let me know I had behaved in appropriately in spiritual since that i had choice origin over conditions about public behavior. The entire incident was about child protection and when the guilt was inflicted on me about protecting my own child, the turlte came and left her eggs with me to show me that she trusted me to look after her children. I should trust myself to look after mine.

Some old shaman or medicine man or someone had related to me a story about man kind's fall, and that we began casting off (or having them stolen) our precious aspects and abilities, and in doing so created animals as a means to preserve certain aspects of ourselves that were being lost so they could hold them for us until we were brave enough to find ourselves again. Pieces of ourselves. Self integration.

I've always loved that story.

[Sebastion]

I think now that after your article I have a little better understanding. There is much to know and learn about regarding natural energies-animals, birds, etc. Methinks a lot of it is perhaps, subtle and has a natural language of it's own. I would believe that it is human arrogance itself which would block access to that natural language.

Thank you 9eagle9!

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Do you have the rest of your life? (he he)

The more I know about animal totems, daily I'm shown more.

To start is an understanding of totems and energy. They are not two separate events. We are not separate from totems. We may not share aspects with certain totems but it is about sharing aspects.

Plant spirit helpers are totems too and roughly this occurs in the same way.

Totems are aspects of ourselves that represent what we have gotten away from. Animals not having the same sort of consciousness and a different sort of ego than humans are actually more trustworthy. Particularly in the wild , where they have not been conditioned. An animals ego is more physical oriented, and survival mode than a since of self gratification or greed.

So they carry the energy of aspects of ourselves that have lost, set aside, were tampered away from, ignored or however we've gotten away from them.

People tend to be enamored by non physical guides of any sort. Forgetting the spirit is expressed through the physical. We are in a physical world , our spirit is expressed here if we allow it or remove the conditons or program that disallow its full free expression. So are other spirits, expressed through a physical body. Spirit speaks through other people.

Animal totems express different dimensions of themselves and we learn to respect all dimensions. The spiritual and the physical. In some respects animals who have the physical ego going on strong, an animal may not come to you in physical form but will come in spiritual form. Or they will come to you in a fashion that honors you but keeps them safe. Most of animal calling is done unconsciously at first. The first animal I called as an adult was a skunk..lol. it came right to my hand. When the skunk and I both realized how we were interacting we both went into fear mode. I fled.

Skunk brings out that aspect that teaches one to stand their ground. The skunk has no reason to back down, Skunk has a simple but powerful means of coaxing you to back down that has no language, not a weapon but is a naturally occuring aspect of the animal.

We learn to respect. To learn to call an animal in physical form , is not a place for people who have something to prove or that the animal will validate in some fashion. That's another co-dependency, an unhealthy attachment. This is why people tend to 'pick' powerful animal totems, the glamorous fancy ones, they think the totem will validate them. Rather like kissing and telling or 'taking trophy animals'. They are in no way in alignment with that animal .No different than people who hunt for trophy animals. If one is patient the animal gives you their own trophy. They willingly give a token of themselves to remind you of shared aspects.



some totems come into to share something and you don't really align with them, its something one needs to know that my ultimately end up in alignment with another totem. Crow may lead to wolf. They will give a token too of that medicine. There's not need to trophy hunt spiritually one only needs to accept what one may percieve as undesirable aspects of one's self. Who assigned the value of undesirable? Not the totem, it didn't. We did. Then we wonder why the totem doesn't express or make itself evident. If you have a wolf totem you will have a wolfish aspect to yourself. You can't force it because....you don't have it or you are unmindfully suspressing it. An animal will express itself according to it's nature. You let cow in your home and it will still need to be milked and jet liquid manure all over the place. It doesn't care about your white carpet and sterile environment.Why should it. For that matter why did you invite it in if you were going to make its aspects unwelcome.

I don't care if its meergoogoo living on Mars a totem will find a way to gift you.

Acceptance is the better portion of alignment. You may ask an totem to share with you an aspect you may feel you don't have, but it that is a naturally occurring aspect of yourSELF it will impose enough of its own energy to bring that forward in you.

Are we willing to accept that a totems' expression can be in death? I have had totems commit suicide on me. An owl striking me in the heart center when I accepted my heart knowing and my intelligence. When I accepted that fully the owl that came to roost outside my kitchen window stopped screaming at me all night when I resisted my heart's wisdom.

People confuse admiration of a totem with alignment. I admire tigers, I am not in alignment with their natural ebb and flow. I respect that and the tiger respects me back. If you want or desire an aspect of animal without finding it in yourself, its just an attachment, and unhealthy one sided love affair. Attempting to use or thieve it's energy.

The totem really doesn't choose you, its not a popularity contest, its about sharing and alignment and no contest is present in those realms. There's similar aspects at work which one shares. Energy is attractive. You accept certain aspects of yourself and the totem(s) will make themselves known to you.

When I accepted (not in this life time) that side of myself that says 'Ha ha if you can catch me you ride me,' I fell into alignment with the horse. That's what a horse does. When I accepted my right to freedom, my air, my power, that I am strong and vulnerable at the same time, i go further into alignment with horse. I am fire horse woman, (Chinese Astrology) they are hugely unpopular and undesirable, they were put to death in Eastern culture because they made unsuitable wives.

I accept that. Ha ha, if you can catch me you can kill me.

'IF'

Fire horse and water horse.


Other obvious totem animals are chickens. I accepted that one can live in a community and make it a working community and still have pecking and scratching, and outrage and it still a working community. Chickens are by no means cowards but one seldom sees one admitting to having a 'weak' totem. Chickens aren't weak.

so someone who thinks they are in alignment with a predator animal and decides my chicken aspect makes me weak and sets abuses that totem in way meant to attack my aspect will have a wake up call. There are several aspects, someone attacks the chicken and the horse will kick.

No contest. The totem instead attempts to bring out an aspect that you share with that animal.

The aspects of my totems are self evidential and they are translated into human values that are less than flattering....lol. You get a mind conditioned human zombie addressing a totemic aspect there's an artificial language being spoken and a natural one. Ultimately nature wins. Why do I poke my nose where it doesn't belong? Why does the horse do it?

And eagle. Once i accepted that I NOTICE everything, then here comes the eagle. They notice everything too. Vision. They see things coming from a long way away.

Once I accepted that I'm not being run over anymore, that I can clean up death, here comes crow. You seldom ever see a crow as road kill, its hard to run a crow over. Raven Grimmassi has tremendous stories about crows that he spent an afternoon relating to me. He is all crow. You see the crow in him and the crow sees itself in him.

Some animals no longer have non physical form like dragons. Is that self evidential. Sure I don't anyone wants to see it but again, spirit is expressed through the physical. Now the dragon no longer has physical form who will it express through if the aspects of one's dragon is accepted?

When my dragon first came to me, I was accused of over-reacting and being angry. But it was far beyond that. There was no angry present, or even a reaction it was simply expressing that aspect with the entity breathing fire into it. You don't fly the dragon it flies you. That dragons lends that energy to that aspect and it completely took me over for a time to accomplish something needed to be accomplished. . Of course I succumb to the guilt of behaving inappropriately, but a physical turtle came along and shared its wisdom to let me know I had behaved in appropriately in spiritual since that i had choice origin over conditions about public behavior. The entire incident was about child protection and when the guilt was inflicted on me about protecting my own child, the turlte came and left her eggs with me to show me that she trusted me to look after her children. I should trust myself to look after mine.

Some old shaman or medicine man or someone had related to me a story about man kind's fall, and that we began casting off (or having them stolen) our precious aspects and abilities, and in doing so created animals as a means to preserve certain aspects of ourselves that were being lost so they could hold them for us until we were brave enough to find ourselves again. Pieces of ourselves. Self integration.

I've always loved that story.

[9eagle9]

And after thinking about this overnight the specifics of what you say you have of course certain aspects of bear energy. She said it herself, she'd be back when back when (when you are ready to accept certain aspects of yourself.) When we do not accept certain aspects of ourselves we are confronted with them. This can happen spiritually or even in actual physical reality. Refusing to accept one's self often ends in the death of self. In conflict with our own aspects.

Mother bears represent independence, protection, flexibility, amiability, going with the flow,nurturing, maternal and divine female energies, guardianship, and solitude, renewal, progressive death and rebirth throughout one's life.


Going 'Bear in the Cave' reflects one's desire to retreat from the mainstream and hermetize themselves in solitude. A bear in confrontation very nearly almost ends with the bear 'nearly' killing the recipient. She's forced you to confront the aspects that you share. Show your teeth. The Bear and the skunk share the attributes of 'standing' one's ground. The bear literally stands . Takes its stand.

Bears are interesting as the bear (ha ha ) a certain reflection on the current human condition. Male and Female Separation. Instead of aligning our natural energies we have created a separation with them in the roles that males and females have had imposed on them. It also reflects the loss of sacred sexuality.

I have noticed both sexes having difficulty accepting bear energies or aspects. My friend when exploring subject vehemently refused to accept bear, and argued every point possible to deny her 'bear-ing'. As she argued with me (I didn't say anything because she can't argue with a bear and it wasn't my argument to engage in, it was the bears..lol) she pulled a coffee cup from my cabinet and poured herself some coffee, the entire time dressing down the subject of her bear aspects. When she shut up long enough to sip her coffee . I said you've accepted it regardless if you know it or not.

She denied this, so I told her to look at her cup. It had a bear on it. She was wise enough to give up by that time and went to a place of acceptance.


Druids viewed the bear as a seeker of wisdom, because they are often found flipping salmon (wisdom) from rivers. King Arthur was known as the Bear king.
Druids also viewed bears as a rarity (extinct now in the British Isles) and perceived people as being a rare sort of person, one that is in acceptance of the physical world by being in alignment with the natural and spiritual world.

King Arthur's story reflects his alignment with the physical and natural world and his attempts to reconcile others into that alignment. And his fall from grace from allowing an imbalance between the physical and spiritual. He refused his bear. He refused his dragon (the druids perceived the dragon as coming into the bear body when the dragon-physical no longer was to be found.)

The dragon having no physical aspect to express itself through most often expressed through the mother bear so there may be some dragon aspects that are to be explored.

Arthur denied his self authority , a sword represents our self authority energy and integration, he ultimately gave that sword up at the end because he gave up his self authority. You do that and you die in some means. Maybe sooner, maybe later. perhaps not physically but one dies on the vine. The more he pushed aware the natural occuring energies the more they receded and shrouded themselves from those who would not accept.

Posted by Sebastion (here)
9eagle9-do you have any information on the significance of totem animal energies? I have had some major lucid dreams occur to me many years ago concerning several different animals, but bear energy has been with me all my life.

For instance, the dark side of the feminine was represented to me in an all too lucid dream as a very large, black, very enraged black bear sow with flaming red eyes. I was to have 2 run ins with her as it turned out. The first incident, I was able to escape her wrath yet she telepathically told me that we would meet again, as I ran from her laughing hysterically in my terror. The second time, I had to face that wrath physically and it nearly ended my life as a result. I am not at liberty to reveal the details.

[Sebastion]

I wish to relate a little story of my own concerning human arrogance. Call me crazy but it happened none-the -less and I learned a lot from it as a result...

I was mowing the grass on a saturday morning which is about as mundane as it gets. I had several acres to mow and wanted to get through it as quickly as I could. As I was about to finish up a particular section and not thinking about anything at all, I suddenly was overwhelmed by a strong feeling of "terror". Knowing instantly, the terror was not "mine", I quickly looked around at the neighbors homes to see what was going on. It was only mid-morning and the neighbors were all still inside. There was no one to be seen....

Still feeling the "terror", I kept looking around-nothing to see. Looking around for the "source" of the terror, my attention was drawn to my left leg. It was there that I saw a little green grasshopper clinging to my leg. I "knew" instantly that those feelings of terror were coming from him. Much to my astonishment, I knew instantly that my little riding mower was destroying everything that grasshopper had ever known, knew instantly that that grasshopper had every bit as much right to be here as I did, no more and certainly no less. I knew instantly the full truth of that statement.

I shut the blades down, assisted the grasshopper safely away from the mower and pulled away. I saw in a flash how arrogant towards natural things I had always been, especially towards much smaller things. I felt completely embarrassed in my own ignorant arrogance. I parked the mower, stood up and announced to the insect world that I would be back in a bit to finish, asking them to clear out. Most all of them had gone when I returned. Made it a habit from that day on to give ample warning to the little ones before firing up the lawn mower!

Methinks that we too feel the same way when a big tornado comes through town and destroys everything we know as well....

[Sebastion]

Your post is allowing me to connect dots going all the way back to childhood. It is information I have searched for, for many years....now I understand and it brings much peace to me! I extend my profound gratitude to you...thank you most sincerely!

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And after thinking about this overnight the specifics of what you say you have of course certain aspects of bear energy. She said it herself, she'd be back when back when (when you are ready to accept certain aspects of yourself.) When we do not accept certain aspects of ourselves we are confronted with them. This can happen spiritually or even in actual physical reality. Refusing to accept one's self often ends in the death of self. In conflict with our own aspects.

Mother bears represent independence, protection, flexibility, amiability, going with the flow,nurturing, maternal and divine female energies, guardianship, and solitude, renewal, progressive death and rebirth throughout one's life.


Going 'Bear in the Cave' reflects one's desire to retreat from the mainstream and hermetize themselves in solitude. A bear in confrontation very nearly almost ends with the bear 'nearly' killing the recipient. She's forced you to confront the aspects that you share. Show your teeth. The Bear and the skunk share the attributes of 'standing' one's ground. The bear literally stands . Takes its stand.

Bears are interesting as the bear (ha ha ) a certain reflection on the current human condition. Male and Female Separation. Instead of aligning our natural energies we have created a separation with them in the roles that males and females have had imposed on them. It also reflects the loss of sacred sexuality.

I have noticed both sexes having difficulty accepting bear energies or aspects. My friend when exploring subject vehemently refused to accept bear, and argued every point possible to deny her 'bear-ing'. As she argued with me (I didn't say anything because she can't argue with a bear and it wasn't my argument to engage in, it was the bears..lol) she pulled a coffee cup from my cabinet and poured herself some coffee, the entire time dressing down the subject of her bear aspects. When she shut up long enough to sip her coffee . I said you've accepted it regardless if you know it or not.

She denied this, so I told her to look at her cup. It had a bear on it. She was wise enough to give up by that time and went to a place of acceptance.


Druids viewed the bear as a seeker of wisdom, because they are often found flipping salmon (wisdom) from rivers. King Arthur was known as the Bear king.
Druids also viewed bears as a rarity (extinct now in the British Isles) and perceived people as being a rare sort of person, one that is in acceptance of the physical world by being in alignment with the natural and spiritual world.

King Arthur's story reflects his alignment with the physical and natural world and his attempts to reconcile others into that alignment. And his fall from grace from allowing an imbalance between the physical and spiritual. He refused his bear. He refused his dragon (the druids perceived the dragon as coming into the bear body when the dragon-physical no longer was to be found.)

The dragon having no physical aspect to express itself through most often expressed through the mother bear so there may be some dragon aspects that are to be explored.

Arthur denied his self authority , a sword represents our self authority energy and integration, he ultimately gave that sword up at the end because he gave up his self authority. You do that and you die in some means. Maybe sooner, maybe later. perhaps not physically but one dies on the vine. The more he pushed aware the natural occuring energies the more they receded and shrouded themselves from those who would not accept.

Posted by Sebastion (here)
9eagle9-do you have any information on the significance of totem animal energies? I have had some major lucid dreams occur to me many years ago concerning several different animals, but bear energy has been with me all my life.

For instance, the dark side of the feminine was represented to me in an all too lucid dream as a very large, black, very enraged black bear sow with flaming red eyes. I was to have 2 run ins with her as it turned out. The first incident, I was able to escape her wrath yet she telepathically told me that we would meet again, as I ran from her laughing hysterically in my terror. The second time, I had to face that wrath physically and it nearly ended my life as a result. I am not at liberty to reveal the details.

[write4change]

Wow eagle what a great totem. I feel the power. Maybe unlike cow and buffalo skulls, I rarely see a horse. Looking at it, I feel the essence of its wisdom. I feel I know why I think a horse is so wise and therefore so powerful.

Sebastion, that was really a great story about mowing. I will always remember it and when I get back to the land I will always honor it by doing it.

[Sebastion]

Thank you write4change. I remember being split down the middle in my thinking during that episode. Before telling the insects I would be back, I made sure nobody was in earshot of me. Part of me felt patently ridiculous while knowing the full truth of it in the other half! I gave in to the truth. Had to face my own arrogance for what it was. That little grasshopper taught me a major life lesson and I will ever honor and respect it........

Posted by write4change (here)
Wow eagle what a great totem. I feel the power. Maybe unlike cow and buffalo skulls, I rarely see a horse. Looking at it, I feel the essence of its wisdom. I feel I know why I think a horse is so wise and therefore so powerful.

Sebastion, that was really a great story about mowing. I will always remember it and when I get back to the land I will always honor it by doing it.

[NancyV]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Thank you write4change. I remember being split down the middle in my thinking during that episode. Before telling the insects I would be back, I made sure nobody was in earshot of me. Part of me felt patently ridiculous while knowing the full truth of it in the other half! I gave in to the truth. Had to face my own arrogance for what it was. That little grasshopper taught me a major life lesson and I will ever honor and respect it........

That reminds me of an interaction I had with a dragonfly a few months ago. As I was coming out of our apartment I saw something laying upside down on the concrete so went over to look closely. It was a dragonfly upside down and unable to turn over. I could tell that it was injured, probably from the leaf blowers that had recently completed their work. So I picked up the dragonfly and set it upright on a bush outside our door. Over the next few days I put some water near it on leaves, since it hadn't left and was apparently unable to fly. I checked on it several times a day and I could tell that it was going to die. It lived for at least a week-10 days and a couple of times it had fallen into the bush but was still alive so I set it upright and it would grasp onto a small branch again. I talked to the dragonfly every time I checked on it and sent energy to it. Maybe that's why it lived so long. Even after it died I left it in the bush and it didn't disappear for a couple of months. Of course my husband laughed at me for talking to the dragonfly. I even talked to it after it was dead! LOL...

My first attempt to communicate with an "animal" was with a fly. I was probably about 10 years old and had just finished reading one of my grandparents books regarding communicating with animals. I saw a fly flying around so decided to call it to me. I put out my hand and talked both aloud and mentally. Sure enough the fly came over and landed right on my hand! My grandparents were both metaphysically inclined and had a huge library of esoteric books. When I told them about what happened they thought it was quite normal to call a fly to land on my hand. They believed that we humans are basically unlimited in our abilities.

The only other strange animal totem I had was when a large golden dragon showed up in my living room and was there every day for a couple of months. I've mentioned it before on the forum. The dragon was quite happy just to be there watching me....until my husband came into my life. Then all the beings that had been around me left. I have seen over the 16 years we've been married that both positive and negative spirits stay very far away from him. If they accidentally encounter him, they quickly leave. Nobody wants anything to do with him ....except for me!!! I've always felt that we got together not just because we are twin flames and soul mates, but so I could protect others from HIM! LOL... He's a very scary and powerful being who has had many experiences with what you might call demons and angels...and sometimes it's hard to tell them apart. One of his sayings is "God don't want me and the devil is scared of me". Despite all that he is one of the most advanced spiritually aware beings I've ever met...and he never talks about it to anyone besides me. He truly doesn't care about much of anything other than being in love with me.

Many of us who are somewhat spiritually aware think that detachment is a rather evolved state, but we are still attached! It's those ever present cords that 9eagle9 has explained so well. My husband is the only person I've ever met who has almost no cords at all, and he could easily cut those if he chose to. Obviously you must have enough attachment to keep on breathing and getting up every day, but many of us still care about the state of the world, our children, the future, the government, helping others, yadda yadda yadda.... He doesn't care about any of it. Even wanting to pass on any knowledge you've gained is an attachment. Maybe we really don't want to be totally detached, I sure don't. I love my attachments and cords, even though I don't have very many. Might as well enjoy being human while we're here in 3D.

[Sebastion]

Nancy, I am in agreement with all that you have said. I have found that in the last year when I have read your posts, I have been in about 98% agreement, therefore saw that any post of mine would have been a repeat of yours! lol

There is one thing though that I noticed in my early teens. I knew a lot of people who had lived through both world wars and were extremely wise folks. Many had knowledge that was lost to the world the day they died, some of it was old home grown medicine remedies. Some of it was just pure and well seasoned wisdom about a lot of things. I always found that the world lost a lot more then just really fine people when they went home. There is a lot of good stuff on this thread and it doesn't disappear necessarily when we do.......

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by Sebastion (here)
Thank you write4change. I remember being split down the middle in my thinking during that episode. Before telling the insects I would be back, I made sure nobody was in earshot of me. Part of me felt patently ridiculous while knowing the full truth of it in the other half! I gave in to the truth. Had to face my own arrogance for what it was. That little grasshopper taught me a major life lesson and I will ever honor and respect it........

That reminds me of an interaction I had with a dragonfly a few months ago. As I was coming out of our apartment I saw something laying upside down on the concrete so went over to look closely. It was a dragonfly upside down and unable to turn over. I could tell that it was injured, probably from the leaf blowers that had recently completed their work. So I picked up the dragonfly and set it upright on a bush outside our door. Over the next few days I put some water near it on leaves, since it hadn't left and was apparently unable to fly. I checked on it several times a day and I could tell that it was going to die. It lived for at least a week-10 days and a couple of times it had fallen into the bush but was still alive so I set it upright and it would grasp onto a small branch again. I talked to the dragonfly every time I checked on it and sent energy to it. Maybe that's why it lived so long. Even after it died I left it in the bush and it didn't disappear for a couple of months. Of course my husband laughed at me for talking to the dragonfly. I even talked to it after it was dead! LOL...

My first attempt to communicate with an "animal" was with a fly. I was probably about 10 years old and had just finished reading one of my grandparents books regarding communicating with animals. I saw a fly flying around so decided to call it to me. I put out my hand and talked both aloud and mentally. Sure enough the fly came over and landed right on my hand! My grandparents were both metaphysically inclined and had a huge library of esoteric books. When I told them about what happened they thought it was quite normal to call a fly to land on my hand. They believed that we humans are basically unlimited in our abilities.

The only other strange animal totem I had was when a large golden dragon showed up in my living room and was there every day for a couple of months. I've mentioned it before on the forum. The dragon was quite happy just to be there watching me....until my husband came into my life. Then all the beings that had been around me left. I have seen over the 16 years we've been married that both positive and negative spirits stay very far away from him. If they accidentally encounter him, they quickly leave. Nobody wants anything to do with him ....except for me!!! I've always felt that we got together not just because we are twin flames and soul mates, but so I could protect others from HIM! LOL... He's a very scary and powerful being who has had many experiences with what you might call demons and angels...and sometimes it's hard to tell them apart. One of his sayings is "God don't want me and the devil is scared of me". Despite all that he is one of the most advanced spiritually aware beings I've ever met...and he never talks about it to anyone besides me. He truly doesn't care about much of anything other than being in love with me.

Many of us who are somewhat spiritually aware think that detachment is a rather evolved state, but we are still attached! It's those ever present cords that 9eagle9 has explained so well. My husband is the only person I've ever met who has almost no cords at all, and he could easily cut those if he chose to. Obviously you must have enough attachment to keep on breathing and getting up every day, but many of us still care about the state of the world, our children, the future, the government, helping others, yadda yadda yadda.... He doesn't care about any of it. Even wanting to pass on any knowledge you've gained is an attachment. Maybe we really don't want to be totally detached, I sure don't. I love my attachments and cords, even though I don't have very many. Might as well enjoy being human while we're here in 3D.

[Tenzin]

This is one of those threads that makes Avalon so special.

* Corded in. *

[wavydome]

Some hornets moved in while i was building my ferrocement, wavy dome. (As of 2005 i was still on the lower levels of cells, when they moved in- It took me years of stabs at building this, one 'cell' per given day-session, now and then.)

We got along just fine. Maybe they liked my beehive studies and modeling, heh. Hornets commute very fast: start-zoom-gone or zoom-stop-back. They never once banged into me nor me into them. In 2007 , they wanted to start nests right where i was adding cement, near to the top, (they hibernate under ground, i'm told). Sorry guys, i had to remove them as i worked along. They seemed to accept the problem of construction. Thanks. The wasps also love this place and ultimately, they seemed to prosper right inside the greenhouse partition, inside today. We have observed them crawling all over some plants, lapping up aphids! My wife loves that, as she spends much time tending her floral plants. We hope they are also eating scale (pesty organisms), which deplete greenhouses. (Most people spray insecticides and use 'systemic' chemicals. We sacrifice high yields to instead work at and study harmonious solutions. My wife is one of the dedicated people, working hard at IPM (integrated pest management).

I almost wanted to preserve this nest but then decided to let nature dismantle it, as seen above. Gravity takes over, in the end.

[Sebastion]

Thank you Tenzin as your comment is much appreciated. It is the quality of the posts of some really fine people here that makes it that way....

Posted by Tenzin (here)
This is one of those threads that makes Avalon so special.

* Corded in. *

[Sebastion]

It looks like your doing some really cool stuff and harmonizing with nature and doing the natural thing. I just wish that I could get along with wasps better then I do...maybe some day! lol

Posted by wavydome (here)
Some hornets moved in while i was building my ferrocement, wavy dome. (As of 2005 i was still on the lower levels of cells, when they moved in- It took me years of stabs at building this, one 'cell' per given day-session, now and then.)

We got along just fine. Maybe they liked my beehive studies and modeling, heh. Hornets commute very fast: start-zoom-gone or zoom-stop-back. They never once banged into me nor me into them. In 2007 , they wanted to start nests right where i was adding cement, near to the top, (they hibernate under ground, i'm told). Sorry guys, i had to remove them as i worked along. They seemed to accept the problem of construction. Thanks. The wasps also love this place and ultimately, they seemed to prosper right inside the greenhouse partition, inside today. We have observed them crawling all over some plants, lapping up aphids! My wife loves that, as she spends much time tending her floral plants. We hope they are also eating scale (pesty organisms), which deplete greenhouses. (Most people spray insecticides and use 'systemic' chemicals. We sacrifice high yields to instead work at and study harmonious solutions. My wife is one of the dedicated people, working hard at IPM (integrated pest management).

I almost wanted to preserve this nest but then decided to let nature dismantle it, as seen above. Gravity takes over, in the end.

[another bob]

Posted by Sebastion (here)
I just wish that I could get along with wasps better then I do...maybe some day! lol

[Sebastion]

Lol AB, I have almost the same problem with hornets too, but their sting isn't quite as bad!

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by Sebastion (here)
I just wish that I could get along with wasps better then I do...maybe some day! lol

[Sebastion]

There has been a situation playing out right out in front of my nose between 2 friends of mine that has allowed me to see something in a new light concerning "judgement". It has allowed me to observe what negative judgement really does. It begins to create an energetic separation. It also has a tendency to breed even more negative judgements which further divides and separates until the chasm created becomes so wide that no bridge can span it. Thus, what was a perfectly good friendship ends.

I bring this up for a reason. In much higher states of consciousness, that 800 pound gorilla called judgement does not exist.

I realize that bringing up any discussion concerning judgement on a conspiracy forum is probably not one of the wisest things to do, yet keep in mind that I am not talking necessarily about the world at large, but rather to how judgements you have rendered against yourself separates you personally from yourself. I can personally see how it kept me crippled under the weight of it for many, many years.

[9eagle9]

Judgement is a naughty word

However there is thing called assessment, and from that discernment can be used. The emotional content of judgement has been taken away.

Posted by Sebastion (here)
There has been a situation playing out right out in front of my nose between 2 friends of mine that has allowed me to see something in a new light concerning "judgement". It has allowed me to observe what negative judgement really does. It begins to create an energetic separation. It also has a tendency to breed even more negative judgements which further divides and separates until the chasm created becomes so wide that no bridge can span it. Thus, what was a perfectly good friendship ends.

I bring this up for a reason. In much higher states of consciousness, that 800 pound gorilla called judgement does not exist.

I realize that bringing up any discussion concerning judgement on a conspiracy forum is probably not one of the wisest things to do, yet keep in mind that I am not talking necessarily about the world at large, but rather to how judgements you have rendered against yourself separates you personally from yourself. I can personally see how it kept me crippled under the weight of it for many, many years.

[Sebastion]

Agreed fully! Giving up the need to judge does not mean giving up any form of discernment and there is a major difference between the two!

Judgement then is an "idea" which if plugged into causes energetic separation in a vast array of ways. It is the great gorilla which sits on the back of mankind which wreaks separation upon the world. Kind of an ugly beast it is......

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Judgement is a naughty word

However there is thing called assessment, and from that discernment can be used. The emotional content of judgement has been taken away.

Posted by Sebastion (here)
There has been a situation playing out right out in front of my nose between 2 friends of mine that has allowed me to see something in a new light concerning "judgement". It has allowed me to observe what negative judgement really does. It begins to create an energetic separation. It also has a tendency to breed even more negative judgements which further divides and separates until the chasm created becomes so wide that no bridge can span it. Thus, what was a perfectly good friendship ends.

I bring this up for a reason. In much higher states of consciousness, that 800 pound gorilla called judgement does not exist.

I realize that bringing up any discussion concerning judgement on a conspiracy forum is probably not one of the wisest things to do, yet keep in mind that I am not talking necessarily about the world at large, but rather to how judgements you have rendered against yourself separates you personally from yourself. I can personally see how it kept me crippled under the weight of it for many, many years.