My thoughts/opinion on Ascension, 2012 and the related events etc.

[Cilka]

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Posted by Cilka (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

Your intuition is missing a few key points, but my intuition believes that your post is not a serious one. Are you actually requesting an answer to the absurd contention that a stronger civilization that corrects and eliminates those that are committing heinous acts against humanity, that would otherwise continue our denial of our rights, universal laws, timelines and contracts, would be just as likely to commit the same, or worse?

EnergyGardener, is there any proof for your statement, that a stronger civilization, the ET's DID is communicating with, is in fact eliminating those that are committing terrible acts against humanity? You should visit Dr Judy Wood's website regarding the direct free energy weapon that was being used to take down WTC buildings 9/11. I hope you dont think that humans actually came up with such technologically advanced weapon? Or do you? But then there is no point in discussing this because it's obvious that I am on a different page than you are.

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Ellisa (here)
I am a huge trekkie fan, have been for years, way before it was fashionable or even acceptable. I used to watch in back and white, I still watch repeats! I believe that one day we will find out if we are alone in the universe. Meanwhile I think some really interesting and very profound ideas are debated on the various incarnations of Star Trek--- but never have I assumed it is real.

We are not alone in this universe, there is more than enough evidence out there. I just earlier finished reading another article that briefly mentions the meetings Gene Roddenberry had between him and some benevolent groups of ET/ED's (He received guidance from at least seven groups of ETs in creating Star Trek. He had physical contact with Sirians A's in the desert that showed him technology aboard their UFO.) prior to coming forward with Star Trek : TOS which soon expanded into the rest of the Franchise. The interesting aspects for me of watching the series is wondering which parts are influenced by the ET's and which ones are from the minds of the writers. The article also talked about how the real true star fleet headquarters aren't in San Francisco, but actually are in the Panamint Mountains , Mojave CA. And, have been there for 3,000 plus years so far.

for those that want to check the article out:
Dreamland In The Rockies

We have been experiencing the consciousness expansion in trickles from the cracks in the dam but they keep getting bigger all the time. As more and more people keep waking up. Which is great! It's like an avalanche, it can not be stopped!

[white wizard]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Think of what is happening more like a dam being ripped down and all that water behind it that has been held back gushing out. The ET/ED’s use the terms “Upliftment” and “Natural Expansion of Consciousness” and are vehemently adamant that neither are in anyway comparable to the true definition of the term Ascension. They just aren’t the same thing. Humanity/Terrans have been held back for thousands (quite possibly/probably hundreds of thousands of years) of years, this time around about 5,700 yrs give or take a century or two. As we’ve already supposed to have had this consciousness expansion a few times already.
It’s inevitable, it’s already happening, it can’t be stopped this time. The full expansion will take a while to fully swing into effect, there is no specific time frame to it. As it is very much event based and individual. I’m a real bubble bursting party pooper aren’t I?

Even in this expansion of consciousness though it’s not going to be the big grand hurrah! that it’s been painted as. Sure we’ll regain control/use of our natural psi-abilities (for those that haven’t already figured out how), and there probably wont be the amount of wars that have taken place over the past few thousand years (but there will still be wars/battles etc), and the governments wont any longer get away with the deceit and secrecy. We’ll have a huge Technology Boom, and eventually integrate with a more open interaction of ET/ED’s and us, and get to start exploring space. But, no end of the world, doomsday, major catastrophic events or energy belts or anything of that sort has any play in this…nor are they going to happen either.

I couldn't have said it better myself. It has come to my attention regardless

whether you believe in ascension or not the one thing you cannot deny is

the awakening process playing itself out on this planet and the implications

of what a mass awakening even whether it was sudden or gradual would

have on us as a species. The other thing you cannot deny if you see the

big picture is the obvious intervention going on and the rise of UFO activity.

It is becoming so evident know that since 2010 there hasn't been a single

night I have not been able to spot a UFO in the sky resembling a star at

first but after close observation you realize stars do not flash blue, green,

red and purple. I have watched closely as TBTW undermined and

side tracked every shift that we have undergone like the one in 2010

with the American tea parties and then the middle east in 2011 with the

war in Libya were they sided with the opposition to regime in countries that

TPTW wanted overthrown. On the other side they fought movements

for regime change in the puppet countries that did there bidding basically

getting the best of the situation. That was no mistake, but as there

grip on us loosens with our awakening I don not believe they will be able

to get the upper hand and they will loose the ability to control these events.

In the end our future will be in the stars i just hope we don't graduate to

a higher level control paradigm of false love and light like so many have warned.

[EnergyGardener]

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Posted by EnergyGardener (here)

Posted by Cilka (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
The Reptoids and Grays have been holding us back...for thousands of years.

Your intuition is missing a few key points, but my intuition believes that your post is not a serious one. Are you actually requesting an answer to the absurd contention that a stronger civilization that corrects and eliminates those that are committing heinous acts against humanity, that would otherwise continue our denial of our rights, universal laws, timelines and contracts, would be just as likely to commit the same, or worse?

EnergyGardener, is there any proof for your statement, that a stronger civilization, the ET's DID is communicating with, is in fact eliminating those that are committing terrible acts against humanity? You should visit Dr Judy Wood's website regarding the direct free energy weapon that was being used to take down WTC buildings 9/11. I hope you dont think that humans actually came up with such technologically advanced weapon? Or do you? But then there is no point in discussing this because it's obvious that I am on a different page than you are.

That is correct, we are on different pages.

I have observed Judy Wood's videos; I agree that whatever the forces, whether a combination of free energy, nuclear, other explosive means, required some serious technology that we are not being told about by TPTW.

I am willing to wait longer to see actual proof, including shake their hands and thank them, as should everyone else. That does not mean that I will taunt, dare they drop lawn darts tomorrow or state that they are as evil as those they are doing battle with—in the meantime. How intelligent is that? Perhaps it gives you a warm and fuzzy to join the majority of the cynics / negative crowd?

As for proof, it is helpful to look at what we were told would happen by now by the MSM / TPTW: War with Iran; much more was planned to have occurred by now, including stopping us from even discussing things like this.

Now, if war breaks out, large earthquakes and super valcanoes go off and the government comes to take us to FEMA camps, then you will know that: You were right and I was wrong. I, however, believe that considering that eventuality (as you appear to) is negative projecting, visualizing the worst possible scenario, which is very powerful, and against what is best for humanity.

For my reasons stated, I side with the minority, by projecting the opposite: Love, powerful positive energy, prayer, meditation, visualization of the LF, our ET/ED families defeating these miserable reptoids / greys, so we can get establish human self-rule as the intelligent species I believe we can be, as it should be in the universe—and this conversation is but a faint memory.

[Camilo]

This is a universe of infinite possibilities, and everyone is co-creating their own reality, so suite yourself, instead of relying on ETs/EDs

[DreamsInDigital]

Most of that OP came from my own soul memories (outside of the Star Trek references), intuition etc, only confirmed by ET/ED's when I stopped to ask them. Why do you think I titled the thread my Thoughts/Opinions ....because they are mine, and I wanted to share them so I started my own thread. If it was mostly ET/ED supplied I would have put that.

Even Bill Ryan has said himself that the only thing that will happen/is happening is an expansion of consciousness, in another thread here on the forum.

[BlueGem]

Posted by seehas (here)
humans on earth still get harvested for energy, we as a race on earth have to reach a point when the harvest gets a bad taste to shake of the parasites, we call this the so called global awakening.

as long as we give power to other "forces" to serve us we will be a great happy meal for parasitic forces and if a outside force would shake of these parasites for us wouldnt they remove a important learning stage?

I see what you are saying, and I can agree with you to an extent. It's just not that black and white though. I do believe we already have everything in our power to make the change, but things have gone beyond the point where we can simply start again with society. This has been debated here before, over and back.