Black Salve (Cancema) now banned in Australia

[Anchor]

I ordered it anyway. While I still have a job, I may as well.

[MacStar]

Sweet mate

[foreverfan]

This stuff is remarkable. I can't believe the lengths the FDA will go through for big Pharma.

[Carmen]

I have used black salve successfully on my hand and on my face. It works beautifully. No more surgeons knife for me! I have also applied it to my daughters leg and a friends face with total healing results. It seems to depend on the type of cancer whether or not it stings, hurts or swells, in my experience. Mine was not painful at all but my daughters leg and my friends face swelled and was painful.

This is a marvelous cure to have in ones medicine chest. A "must have" in my opinion.

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
This stuff is remarkable. I can't believe the lengths the FDA will go through for big Pharma.

Which begs the question............

FDA (TGA here in Oz), and Big Pharma...........what's the diff?

Nothing!

Bumped into a friend a week ago who was worried sick after having the umpteenth basal celll carcenoma removed from his abdomen. He had never heard of black salve, so I put considerable effort into bring him up to speed, offering him a jar of the stuff free of charge. I haven't heard back from him as yet.

Ya' can lead a horse to water I guess, after which, he can dig his own grave.

[Straker]

I too bought some Black Salve off the Australian Ebay site.

After receiving it I did some more looking around and found a few sources that gave me second thoughts. One was a lady that used it, and it opened a hole in her sinuses that required surgery and building her a new nose.

Here's another example:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...er/eschar.html

So at the moment it sits on the shelf, and I tried emailing the guy that sold it to me to get his opinion but he would not even return my email.

It's also listed among the 187 Fake Cancer cures on the FDA site:

http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceCom.../ucm171057.htm

So not wanting to become a lab rat, I'll leave it on the shelf as a last resort item.

Straker

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Straker (here)
I'll leave it on the shelf as a last resort item.

No, don'd do that!

Why not give it to someone who considers neither Quackwatch nor the bloody FDA's own site as credible sources of information.

Struth!

[Paul]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)
Why not give it to someone who considers neither Quackwatch or the bloody FDA's own site as credible sources of information.

Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it .

[Paul]

Posted by Straker (here)
One was a lady that used it, and it opened a hole in her sinuses that required surgery and building her a new nose.

I used Sunspot ES once on a minor skin cancer - it worked perfectly in a few days to kill the cancerous cells and leave the healthy cells only slightly annoyed. The resulting weirdly shaped hole healed over flawlessly. There were pictures of some ladies nose in the research I did for it. She had had cancer of the nose that was in most of her nose, and the cream removed the cancer just fine ... not much nose was left, and what was there was ugly and weirdly shaped. I can only assume that conventional therapy would also have had to remove the nose, and probably kill her with side affects a few years later.

[Carmen]

My feelings exactly Heyoka!! The person who first put me on to this stuff used to have surgery most years to have cancerous growths cut out!! She said to her specialist one day that she was going to a quack to find another option!! His response was that she should go for it as she had nothing to lose!! At the time she had skin cancer on her cheek that had gone right through to her jaw and she was looking at having teeth and part of her jaw removed!!

She applied the black salve and it cured the cancer. Her specialist was amazed and took numerous photos! Of course, at the risk of losing his specialist ranking he went no further with investigating this.

My friend is absolutely delighted that she now has a means of getting rid of cancers. Each surgery previously had cost her about eighteen hundred dollars an operation!! Not that that was an issue in particular, but it all adds up and is unnesessary expense.

[Anchor]

Posted by Anchor (here)
I ordered it anyway. While I still have a job, I may as well.

So anyway got the DVD, now all I need to do is watch it

I noticed that Elaine Hollingsworth has an article in this months Nexus Magazine that looks very similar to one on Avalon - this time its about Iodine and how replacing it with Bromine, as has been done for some time is generally making a mess of us.

[eileenrose]

Thanks to everyone for posting. I wasn't clear about this product. The videos (thanks Bill) really helped.

The only other skin cure is probably cannabis. I heard of its being used for cancer skin lesions as well. I use it internally for cancer cells/growths....works well (do follow the instructions on Rick simpson's site for taking it....got to start off at very small dosages and slowly build up over time....easy to take too much and feel awful for a couple of days....I did....oops).

[Heyoka_11]

Posted by Paul (here)
Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it .

Yes, it can be useful, but the element of bunk it contains strips it of overall credibility. To me, it's worthwhile content is simply a sugar coating on a bitter pill.

To quote from post 14....

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)
Oh, and as for Quackwatch, whilst I admit that there is a great deal of worthwhile information on this site, I have also, on several occasions, read utter prejudiced bunk there as well. It is an excellent platform for spreading misinformation, but that's just my opinion.

I also appreciated Bill's input in post 21, as for the first time, my suspicions regarding Quackwatch were backed up....

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Quackwatch (the medical blog of Stephen Barrett, MD) is a pretty much a pro-FDA mouthpiece. The FDA is not protecting your health. Trust me.

It should also be noted that Dr Barrett is a psychiatrist. Some psychiatrists are well-intentioned people, but by no means all. Meanwhile, all psychiatrists are gravely misled in one way or another.

Read his Curriculum Vitae: it gets worse and worse.

In 1980, he co-authored a book called The Tooth Robbers: A Pro-Fluoridation Handbook.

In 1981 came Vitamins and "Health" Foods: The Great American Hustle.

And he proudly presents his credentials as a member of The Committee for Skeptical Enquiry (CSICOP), as is the famous debunker James Randi.

I will not waste my time writing any more about this anti-human, destructive clown, and his listen-to-me, brainwashed, status-oriented, mainstream viewpoint.

Excuse the rant: but this kind of drip-feed attack on freedom, sanity, truth, and real health makes me angry too. The future of the well-being of the human race is at stake in issues like this.

[MacStar]

I watched the Video today and was very impressed.

I've been busy and a bit overloaded so forgive me if this has been brought up before but what's the go with Alpha Omega?
http://www.alphaomegalabs.com/store/salves-and-tonics

and this statement:

"It has been nearly two and a half years since I posted an "Ashwin" -- our periodic update on current events at Alpha Omega Labs . . . begun in 2001 but interrupted frequently, due to my run-ins with the U.S. FDA over the past nine years. (Inmates have no access to internet service in U.S. federal prison, apart from a pathetically neutered email service, called "Corrlinks".)
Since the destruction of our lab in the U.S. by the FDA in 2003, a host of books have flooded the market concerning the corruption of the orthodox medical community. When Cathryn and I first began working in this business in 1990, people still talked about reforming modern medicine. Today, the orthodox community has morphed into a crime syndicate of such breathtaking magnitude that the concept of "reform" is increasing being treated as naive. It isn't so much that orthodoxy has been so blatant in abandoning even the faintest whiff of moral or ethical authority in their quest for greater profits -- but rather, that they take such enormous delight in displaying their contempt for even a modicum of common decency.
A testament to this "over the top" state of orthodox medicine are the documented facts concerning my kidnapping and extraordinary rendition on December 2, 2009. Top officials here in Ecuador have acknowledged that a substantial number of laws were broken during this escapade, all of which I now document in Chapter 3, Section 3 of Meditopia®.
Just as nauseating as the behavior of governmental jackbooted thugs in their quest to please their true masters in the pharmaceutical industry, has been the audacious acts of counterfeiters of our products.
I can think of none that have been more callous than the activities of Bevan Potter and Elaine Hollingsworth in Australia. Allow me to explain:

In October, 2008, I wrote about a clearly devious ploy that Elaine orchestrated in a scandalous attempt to get the public to believe that she and Bevan Potter were making "the real Cansema®" -- and that Cathryn and I were endorsing it!
Never mind that Cansema® is our U.S. registered trademark, and we have used this tradename continually since the early 90's -- interrupted only by five years between my unjust imprisonment and the re-establishment of our lab in Ecuador.
Never mind that Bevan Potter got into the business only AFTER he provided us with a glowing testimonial concerning the effectiveness of our product. He amplified the problem by ignoring Cathryn, my wife and this company's co-founder, by repeatedly ignoring civil requests to stop calling his product Cansema®, and desist from falsely telling the public that I personally gave him "the formula" -- which has been steadily improved over the past 20 years -- while I was in prison.
Never mind that with the online maintenance of Meditopia®, we provide the most complete history of escharotic preparations available anywhere. That much of our work is uncompensated, or "pro bono," so as to educate the general public.
Never mind that we are the only ones -- to my knowledge -- to provide, free to the public, a video demonstration of how one can actually make a basic escharotic preparation in their own home.
Never mind that documented cases of botched results from dealers such as Jennifer Wilson and Bevan Potter were so great -- with many clients not being able to get effective customer support -- that for years we maintained a Compensation for Fake Product program so that the entire field of escharotic preparations would not be tarnished as a result. (We only discontinued the program when it became clear that not even WE could financially support the compensation of all the deceived parties.)

As in the case of the FDA, there is no moral or ethical line that cannot be crossed with these people. Elaine, in particular, understands the truth about the corruption of the unholy alliance between government and Big Pharma and does a good job of articulating this position in her work. And what's why her latest ploy is so aggravating. Simply put -- she knows better.
This week (beginning March 25th) we began to get reports that Elaine Hollingsworth was responding to attempts by Australia's FDA twin sister, TGA (Therapeutic Goods Authority), to make "black salves" unavailable to consumers. We would have to applaud such an effort because making people more aware of the tyranny behind modern medicine is the very reason we put out Meditopia® in the first place.
But she doesn't stop there.
In a massive email campaign sent all over Australia, she goes on to tell consumers that they shouldn't deal with Alpha Omega Labs -- "because I don't trust them." No further basis for her condemnation is provided. Why? Because she undoubtedly remains miffed that we caught her deceiving the public with her "Cansema video" in the first place, and the temptation to slander us for having caught her with her hand in cookie jar was just too irresistible.
And the problem doesn't end there.
It isn't enough that we caught her red-handed misinforming the public at the conclusion of her previous scandal. Now we have to spend time addressing scores of letters we have received from frightened consumers who do not appear to know that when they call us they are addressing the very people who pioneered the industry in the first place -- the very people whose highly efficacious formulas form the coattail that Elaine Hollingsworth, Bevan Potter, Jennifer Wilson, and others, have been riding for years . . . all the while biting the hand that feeds them.
This kind of backbiting saddens me greatly.
On what authority do those of us in the alternative community operate if we don't behave any better than those in Big Pharma? How are we any different from these horrifically evil governmental bodies if we can't replace the effort to "make more money" with a real commitment to safety, efficacy, and low cost? When you deliberately bad-mouth products that you know are effective just because you want to re-direct someone to your store or shop, how is that any different from the kind of "Big Pharma" behavior those of us in the alternative community have been excoriating for years? We lament the official suppression of the work of pioneers like R.R. Rife, Harry Hoxsey, William F. Koch, Nikola Tesla, and others -- so how is the underhanded work of Elaine Hollingsworth any different?
If medicine -- either as taught in the orthodox, alternative, or integrative communities -- never has an opportunity to ascend to something greater than money-making, on what basis do we hold hope that the current condition can improve?
Alternative medicine, if it ever hopes to remain viable at the table of modern health care, must address something more than what it does. It must address what it is. And what it is must stand in stark contrast to the cesspool that is part and parcel of the current system -- one where only tyranny prevails.


Greg Caton --- Founder
Alpha Omega Labs
Guayaquil, Ecuador "

Link to free downloads:
http://www.meditopia.org/video.htm

I'm confused,have we made the situation worse???

Did I fund Elaine's project if this is true?

[Paul]

Posted by Heyoka_11 (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Quackwatch can be useful ... if they condemn something, there's usually something worthwhile in it .

Yes, it can be useful, but the element of bunk it contains strips it of overall credibility. To me, it's worthwhile content is simply a sugar coating on a bitter pill.

Ah - I entirely agree ... FDA bunkem. I was being sarcastic, saying that one could make a list of what Quackwatch attacks, and use that list as a starting point for what might be worthwhile.

[MacStar]

Yes Paul and Heyoka_11 I agree.

As pertains to the post above yours of mine,I recevied an email from ozhare and his perspective:

"Hi mate.
If we put aside this valuable salve for a moment and look from a higher
position there is a lesson here.
There is a darker place (corrupt, wanting of wealth,fame,power over people and directing innocent people towards it)
and another place (ripped off, abused, suppressed. then freed to help again. sometimes at no cost it would seem).
There is energy exchanged/ traded here. A profit and deficit for all involved that links you all together energetically.
Balance will be brought to the situation if not today, tomorrow. The universal laws err ever so slightly towards justice
and the light of the prime creator. Everyone will get there lesson from this situation. Even if your input is only money
you will help these people get their lesson. Just pisses you off when those that should work together don't. or are they
for a higher lesson.;-) "

[Paula]

Posted by Paul (here)
I used Sunspot ES once on a minor skin cancer - it worked perfectly in a few days to kill the cancerous cells and leave the healthy cells only slightly annoyed.

Thanks, Paul. I just placed my order.

About a month ago, I ordered “Grandmas Black Salve”. The instructions were to keep it in the refrigerator. It hasn’t been opened. Do you or anyone else know if it goes bad once it is opened?

I figured if I have it...I’ll never need it. (in my non-medical opinion)