Benjamin Fulford - 3 APR 2012

[christian]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
be 'Honest'...

"Smart is as smart does." Freely adapted from Forrest Gump

"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there." - Rumi

I have no intention to rely on the potential authenticity of Ben's claims. I don't believe anything I cannot prove firsthand and I consider everything. I cannot substantiate any White Dragon activities, not even their existence. I just tried to paint a picture of how Ben's vague claims could make any sense in the real world. (I like detached possibility-thinking.) Funds from the White Dragon society could be funneled to a collaborating Japanese Government. We'll see about that, I won't hold my breath.

I honestly hope Ben and this White Dragon group are really up to something good. But whether or not that's the case, I suggest everyone takes responsibility where one can. You said, you read Ben's updates regularly, what's your reason for that? (Not a rhethorical question.) The only 'real' mistake one could make after reading Ben's news would be to sit back and do nothing and wait for the White Dragons to save the day. I think we all agree, that personal participation in this whole transition process is key. Reading Ben's news is really just a sideshow for me and I very very rarely mention Ben's news stories to anybody in my daily life, because it doesn't aid particularly well in encouraging people to take responsibility. I rather tell stories about things I did or about people I came across whom I witnessed doing something to make a difference and of course I tell people about crimes of the 'elite' that should not be tolerated.

Actually it's my gut, who's saying that Ben is not completly full of it, only partly, I feel he is regularly exagerrating and distorting data. My mind simply says "I cannot see evidence for his claims". My mind stays open anyways.

I look forward to your answer, so I hope this wasn't your last posting

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Ben has always just been an info guy, and more of a filter between what is really going on, getting the most out of his own ego, and what we are to be allowed to know. He hasn't really ever gotten his hands dirty, or provided serious hard evidence. This is the difference with him, in comparison to someone like icke, who actually is going uot and telling it what his own research grants him.

M@

[christian]

Posted by Positive Vibe Merchant (here)
He hasn't really ever gotten his hands dirty, or provided serious hard evidence.

What about his articles about the Yakuza, their crimes and their reach into Japanese society? That was well-researched and based on hard facts, because that got Ben into trouble and in contact with the White Dragon guys in the first place. Given those articles exist, I never bothered to search for them. This happened while he was chief of Forbes' Asian-Pacific bureau. He mentioned them in his Camelot interview. Have you seen his interview? I found his life story rather impressive, living with a tribe of natives in South America, going to Japan on his own, having a remarkable career as a journalist and TV host etc.

[sygh]

Posted by christian (here)

Posted by Bryn ap Gwilym (here)
The only reference to this I can find is via new age sites that are all quoting Ben Fulford's site. Can anyone here from the USA please confirm Pentagon's warning?

the Pentagon has begun asking citizens to stock up with 72 hours’ worth of food

Also, do take the Pentagon’s advice and stock up on food to tide you over the transition.

FEMA advised US citizens already two years ago to have a 3 day emergency supply of food and water. I wouldn't be suprised, if Ben bent the facts to appear more dramatic, he did so in a past interview with Jeff Rense, I don't remember the details of that now, it had something to do with the Vatican. Quite some people didn't appreciate that back then, that's one of the reasons why he's got such a dubious reputation.

And for a darned good reason. He is off the charts. I would like to see some of these things come to fruition but you know what it sounds like to me???? It sounds like the new world order. Take your little pills, or meditate your way into the future. Don't bother yourself over what the big boys are doing, you can't play.

Can anyone say verbal placebo?

[sygh]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
You gotta love Ben, He at least raises the consciouness in all of us. What we think, we become.

On another note im heading off to Paraguay to assist in the arrests of The Bush family and all of his croanies. Wish me luck peeps.

Are you serious? Or, are you just going to Paraguay?-} If you do, why not take a video camera and see if you can interview someone you feel would be good to interview?

[christian]

Posted by sygh (here)
It sounds like the new world order. Take your little pills, or meditate your way into the future. Don't bother yourself over what the big boys are doing, you can't play.

Change is happening in all realms of existence, on the individual level as well as on the corporate, political, financial, you name it. There is surely a lot going on behind the scenes (suprise!) and there surely are groups that are serious about making a change and some of them surely operate rather secretive in the sense, that at the current time from a certain perspective, they are "big boys playing among themselves". Whether or not Ben is really in contact with them and really puts out authentic information is another thing.

Any of those groups of big boys, who genuinely want humanity to become self-responsible will support just that while doing their business. It's not either or. Not either secretive groups organizing stuff or humanity creating grass-roots movement. It's both. I can imagine that some moves require a certain degree of stealth to succeed, but eventually, if the White Dragon society is for real, then at some point, when all this has proceeded further towards a positive change, the society has to become transparent about its workings and its past.

What about benevolent ETs, I know they are there and in a sense all that applies to them as well, doesn't it? A little off-topic though...

[sygh]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqxx35A07r4

Here's what Edgar Cayce had to say about times we are going through...

Honestly, it sounds quite a bit like what Ben is saying. This is not to say I'm backing Ben by quoting Edgar. I'd really like to see many of the things Ben talks about come about. Ijust don't want to end up right back where we came from, one, and two, don't want to live under the thumb of a socialist ruling class. Does that make sense?

I rather like what it says on the Georgia Stones.

[Avocadess]

Bryn ap: I have heard over the radio some kind of public service announcements for the past many months that we should stock up on emergency supplies. At the time I thought maybe it was a fear tactic. Now I see it may have just been advance planning -- because I have not heard this within the last couple of months.

[Maia Gabrial]

Some wondered seriously whether the “poacher” was under the influence or just greedy when he made a fool of himself.

I don't think the "poacher" was on anything. He was making a POINT about how he could and would continue to poach the Rhino's horns.
That he would not be stopped..... It was an insult....

If the Pentagon is telling us to stock on food, then we'll become terrorists according to Dept of Homeland Security.... Deep in doo, no matter what we do...

[sygh]

Posted by christian (here)

Posted by sygh (here)
It sounds like the new world order. Take your little pills, or meditate your way into the future. Don't bother yourself over what the big boys are doing, you can't play.

Change is happening in all realms of existence, on the individual level as well as on the corporate, political, financial, you name it. There is surely a lot going on behind the scenes (suprise!) and there surely are groups that are serious about making a change and some of them surely operate rather secretive in the sense, that at the current time from a certain perspective, they are "big boys playing among themselves". Whether or not Ben is really in contact with them and really puts out authentic information is another thing.

Any of those groups of big boys, who genuinely want humanity to become self-responsible will support just that while doing their business. It's not either or. Not either secretive groups organizing stuff or humanity creating grass-roots movement. It's both. I can imagine that some moves require a certain degree of stealth to succeed, but eventually, if the White Dragon society is for real, then at some point, when all this has proceeded further towards a positive change, the society has to become transparent about its workings and its past.

What about benevolent ETs, I know they are there and in a sense all that applies to them as well, doesn't it? A little off-topic though...

The Pentagon told U.S. citizens to stock up on food and water. The Pentagon hasn't told us to do anything like that. FEMA is the arm that would tell us to stock up on the necessities, if that were the case, not the Pentagon.

Quite a lot is going on, the U.S. is in debt up over its proverbial head. Take a gander...

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/...ebt_chart.html

And that's just the US.

Here's the World Debt Comparison.

http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

Whoops... the U.S. is just as red in the global picture as it was standing alone. Other countries, aren't in debt but many of them are still considered third world countries. Since U.S. money is fiat, and the Federal Reserve has been buying U.S. bonds propping up our economy so that we wouldn't feel the inflation/deflation, whoops again... that is, until yesterday...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-sto...134230732.html

I have wittnessed a lot of people stuffing their pockets with as much money as they can, while they can, over the last decade and then going to other countries and buying land -and water rights, gold, silver, anything of worth or substance. Many of these people have left the US because they know what they did. Dare I say... they fear for their personal safety? Others flock to the UN with hopes of running the world. Do you really think these people will come to justice?

Do you think fracking for oil in this country, or grifting oil from Canadian sands is going to stop? Not without alien intervention, or new energy technology it won't. Well, if ever we needed alien intervention, and this new technology, now is the time. I haven't even heard our government ask us to plant trees. Have you taken a look at the state of deforestation in the US recently?

http://conservationreport.com/2009/0...1620-to-today/

What strong leaders do we have, they/we kill anyone that makes any sense. I know there are aliens too and I am openly inviting a friendly alien to my house to tell me where we are going wrong and discuss the best ways to go about fixing it. However, until they come knocking on my door, I'll promote PLANTING TREES, demanding mass transit, and getting a grip on the baby thing, while doing the same.

[jackovesk]

Posted by christian (here)
You said, you read Ben's updates regularly, what's your reason for that? (Not a rhethorical question.)

Answer:

For the very same reason I sometimes watch the MSM News...

To see just how far they are willing to Spin, Lie & Stretch the 'Truth'...

[G.Deluca]

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fulford now offers protection too

[observer]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98T3PVaRrHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98T3PVaRrHU

So much to do about nothing....