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    My teacher made us watch this in my Law and the Media class.


    By the way the dude talks reaaaaaaaally fast so good luck.
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    wikileaks a threat to national insecurity , when the population no longer live in fear , they are much harder to steer

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    Pentagon demands WikiLeaks 'do the right thing'

    The Pentagon has demanded that a website that solicits leaked government secrets cancel any plan to publish more classified military documents and pull back tens of thousands of secret Afghan war logs already posted on the Internet.

    The demand, which the Defence Department has no independent power to enforce, is primarily aimed at preventing release of approximately 15,000 secret documents that the website WikiLeaks has said it is holding.

    The Pentagon also hopes to stop WikiLeaks from making public the contents of a mammoth encrypted file recently added to the site. Contents of that file remain a mystery.

    "We are asking them to do the right thing," Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell. "I don't know that we're very confident they'll have a change of heart."

    WikiLeaks posted more than 76,900 classified military and other documents, mostly raw intelligence reports from Afghanistan, on its website July 25. The 15,000 additional documents are apparently related to that material.

    The documents leaked so far illustrate the frustration of US forces in fighting the protracted Afghan conflict and revived debate over the war's uncertain progress. The White House angrily denounced the leaks, saying they put the lives of Afghan informants and US troops at risk.

    "The Defence Department demands that WikiLeaks return immediately to the US government all versions of documents obtained directly or indirectly from the Department of Defence databases or records," Morrell said.

    He called the material stolen property, but would not address whether the demand is a prelude to legal action against the website or others. Morrell spoke at a Pentagon press conference that amounted to a televised public appeal to the secretive site and its editor, former computer hacker Julian Assange.

    An Army private, Bradley Manning, is jailed on suspicion of leaking classified material to WikiLeaks in a previous case. He is a "person of interest" in the latest release, Morrell said.

    As a practical matter, the Pentagon has little if any hope that it can recapture all electronic forms of the documents already placed online and since downloaded and examined by countless people.

    "The genie is out of the bottle," Morrell acknowledged later, but he said WikiLeaks would make matters worse by releasing more information.

    The Pentagon has had no direct contact with WikiLeaks about possible efforts to redact those documents to make them less of a security threat, Morrell said, and he ruled out such an exercise.

    "We're not looking to have a conversation about harm minimisation," Morrell said. "We're looking to have a conversation about how to get these perilous documents off the website as soon as possible, return them to their rightful owners and expunge them from their records."

    Ad Feedback The Pentagon has some idea what the 15,000 unpublished documents contain, he said. US intelligence and security officials appear worried that the unpublished material contains more damaging secrets than were contained in the low-level military intelligence reports first released.

    Also hanging fire are secret State Department documents that Manning is suspected of obtaining.

    State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters Thursday that the government thinks WikiLeaks has classified State Department material that it has not released.

    "Certainly as a government, we would like to see all documents returned, whether they're military cables, whether they're State Department cables. This is classified information that WikiLeaks does not have a right to possess," Crowley said.

    WikiLeaks has posted a huge encrypted file named "Insurance" to its website, raising the possibility that the organisation may be prepared to release another wave of secret material if the government attempts to block the site or target its operators.

    Bloggers have noted that the file is 20 times the size of the batch already released.

    WikiLeaks would not comment Thursday on the 1.4 gigabyte file beyond a vague reference to "security procedures".

    Assange said little more in his response to the same line of questioning in a television interview with independent US news network Democracy Now!

    "I think it's better that we don't comment on that," Assange said, according to the network's transcript of the interview. "But, you know, one could imagine in a similar situation that it might be worth ensuring that important parts of history do not disappear."

    Assange has expressed concern over his safety in the past, complaining of surveillance and telling interviewers that he's been warned away from visiting the United States.

    The Pentagon has a team of about 80 intelligence experts combing the documents already released for information that Taliban insurgents or others could use to hone their tactics against US force or target informants. That team, which includes military intelligence analysts and others culled from the nation's vast constellation of intelligence agencies, could soon grow to as many as 125 people, Morrell said.

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    Quote The Pentagon has demanded that a website that solicits leaked government secrets cancel any plan to publish more classified military documents and pull back tens of thousands of secret Afghan war logs already posted on the Internet.
    So.... let's sum up, shall we?
    • First response by the WH and Pentagon is the release amounts to a pack of government...... "secrets", and Wikileaks is in deep merde.
    • Then, WH and Pentagon say there was no valuable information in the release. Govt's version of an 11 yr old saying "That didn't hurt!"
    • Now, WH and Pentagon are back to the "secrets" line.
    • And, now that thousands of copies exist (including 2 on my own machines), world wide, they want the original removed from sight.
    What tripe!

    Quote State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters Thursday that the government thinks WikiLeaks has classified State Department material that it has not released.
    Oh darn... those pesky notions of "probable cause", and "Go get a damned warrant!", once again rear their heads, to the inconvenience of government.
    "Imagine what they'll 'think' tomorrow"

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    Default Re: US says Wikileaks could 'threaten national security'

    Quote Posted by Decibellistics (here)
    My teacher made us watch this in my Law and the Media class.




    By the way the dude talks reaaaaaaaally fast so good luck.
    Great video, I really enjoyed it and learned quite a bit. Thanks!

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    Default Re: US says Wikileaks could 'threaten national security'

    Decibel, yaya;

    Even more important now than when it was made. There have been 2 SC rulings since weakening the Miranda decision, including one last week. It is all but a non-existent creature of TV shows, now.

    Now days many states require you to identify yourself ,when requested by a police officer. Beyond that, anything you say to them, you do at your peril.

    A cop can make up, or say anything they please, to elicit a response from you. They commit no crime in doing so.
    On the other hand, even if you innocently give them "mistaken" information, you can be prosecuted for obstructing justice.

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    Thanks Freddyc, things are getting crazy around here. Good to learn things to protect one's self!

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    Hark! Hark! I just ran across this:

    Quote Military services caution personnel against accessing WikiLeaks site
    By Barbara Starr, CNN Pentagon Correspondent
    August 7, 2010 -- Updated 0009 GMT (0809 HKT)


    Washington (CNN) -- U.S. military personnel are being warned not to log onto the WikiLeaks website to view the tens of thousands of leaked military documents there, saying it could be considered a security violation.

    While it is not an official ban, a senior Defense Department official told CNN there is consideration being given to establishing a formal policy.

    A Marine Corps e-mail circulating within some offices of the corps notes that personnel are "cautioned" not to access the WikiLeaks site from personal, public or government computers.

    "By willingly accessing the WIKILEAKS website for the purpose of viewing the posted classified material -- these actions constitute the unauthorized processing, disclosure, viewing, and downloading of classified information onto an UNAUTHORIZED computer system not approved to store classified information. Meaning they have WILLINGLY committed a SECURITY VIOLATION," the e-mail warns.

    While the message is not directed specifically at the entire corps, it goes on to note that viewing the classified documents on WikiLeaks could lead military security officials to "immediately remove, suspend 'FOR CAUSE' all security clearances and accesses."

    he message also tells service members, "Do not ask friends to access the website from their home computer." The Marine Corps warns such actions could also lead to failing a polygraph examination and loss of security clearances.

    A similar message has been circulated in Navy units dealing with security. Spokesmen for both the Army and Air Force say those services are considering similar messages. All sources declined to be identified by name because the entire WikiLeaks matter involves the security of classified information.

    On Thursday, at a briefing for reporters, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell demanded that WikiLeaks stop soliciting for leaks on its site, saying it is trying to entice people to "break the law and share classified information."

    "WikiLeaks' webpage constitutes a brazen solicitation to U.S. government officials, including our military, to break the law," Morrell said. "WikiLeaks' public assertion that submitting confidential material to WikiLeaks is safe, easy and protected by law is materially false and misleading."
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    Default Re: US says Wikileaks could 'threaten national security'

    thier worried about servicemen waking up and busting the veil once they realize just how much thier loyalty to thier country has been abused and misused by manipulation , they've been losing lives in a manufactured war and the cracks are beginning to appear in the illusion

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    WikiLeaks readies release of more files

    AP Last updated 10:20 13/08/2010

    WikiLeaks spokesman Julian Assange said his organisation is preparing to release the rest of the secret Afghan war documents it has on file.

    The Pentagon warned that would be more damaging to security and risk more lives than the organisation's initial release of some 76,000 war documents.

    That extraordinary disclosure, which laid bare classified military documents covering the war in Afghanistan from 2004 to 2010, has angered US officials, energized critics of the Nato-led campaign, and drawn the attention of the Taliban, which has promised to use the material to track down people it considers traitors.

    The Pentagon says it believes it has identified the additional 15,000 classified documents, and said Thursday that their exposure would be even more damaging to the military than what has already been published.

    Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell described the prospective publication as the "height of irresponsibility."

    "It would compound a mistake that has already put far too many lives at risk," he said.

    Speaking via videolink to London's Frontline Club, Assange brushed aside the Pentagon's demands that he stop publishing their intelligence. He gave no specific timeframe for the release of the 15,000 remaining files, but said his organisation had gone through about half of them.

    "We're about 7,000 reports in," he said, describing the process of combing through the files to ensure that no Afghans would be hurt by their disclosure as "very expensive and very painstaking."

    Still, he told the audience that he would "absolutely" publish them. He gave no indication whether he would give the documents to media outlets The New York Times, The Guardian, and Der Spiegel - as he has before - or simply dump them on the Wikileaks website.

    The leaks exposed unreported incidents of Afghan civilian killings by Nato forces and covert operations against Taliban figures. Assange has said that hundreds of those reports should be investigated by the media for evidence of war crimes.

    WikiLeaks' supporters say the blow-by-blow account of the conflict reveal the horror of the campaign's daily grind. Detractors say the site has recklessly endangered the war effort and Afghan informants working to stop the Taliban.

    The Pentagon has a task force of about 100 people reading the leaked documents to assess the damage done and working, for instance, to alert Afghans who might be identified by name and now could be in danger.

    Taliban spokesmen have said they would use the material to try to hunt down people who've been cooperating with what the Taliban considers a foreign invader. That has aroused the concern of several human rights group operating in Afghanistan - as well as Paris-based media watchdog Reporters Without Borders, which on Thursday accused Wikileaks of recklessness.

    Jean-Francois Julliard, the group's secretary-general, said that WikiLeaks showed "incredible irresponsibility" when posting the documents online.

    "WikiLeaks has in the past played a useful role by making information available. . . that exposed serious violations of human rights and civil liberties which the Bush administration committed in the name of its war against terror," Julliard said in an open letter to Assange posted to his group's website.

    "But revealing the identity of hundreds of people who collaborated with the coalition in Afghanistan is highly dangerous."

    WikiLeaks, through its account on micro-blogging website Twitter, dismissed the letter as "some idiot statement, based on a bunch of quotes we never made."

    While he acknowledged that some of the critiques leveled at his group were legitimate, he said the Pentagon - as well as human rights groups - had so far refused to help WikiLeaks purge the name of Afghan informants from the files.

    At the State Department, spokesman Mark Toner said he was not aware of any effort by department officials to contact WikiLeaks.

    Defense Department spokesman Col. David Lapan dismissed WikiLeaks' claims that they were reviewing the documents and removing information that could harm civilians.

    "They don't have the expertise to determine what might be too sensitive to publish," he said. As for when the Pentagon expected WikiLeaks to release the documents, Lapan said: "WikiLeaks is about as predictable as North Korea."

    In the meanwhile, the US has also reportedly urged its allies to look into Assange and his international network of activists, although it's not clear how aggressive Washington has been in prodding its foreign friends.

    Earlier Thursday the Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith told The Associated Press that Washington had not approached the his government about pursuing possible criminal charges against Assange, an Australian citizen, or about putting restrictions on his travel.

    "Quite clearly we're working closely with the United States on these matters," Smith said, citing Australia's Defense Department and the Pentagon as the agencies working together. "These are very serious matters for concern."

    Australia, which has some 1,550 troops in Afghanistan, has already launched its own investigation into whether posting classified military documents had compromised the national interest or endangered soldiers.

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    thier worried about servicemen waking up and busting the veil once they realize just how much thier loyalty to thier country has been abused and misused by manipulation , they've been losing lives in a manufactured war and the cracks are beginning to appear in the illusion
    This was exactly my first thought when I read a similar article a few days ago

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    Could Wikileaks be stopped, theoretically?

    An online whistle-blower's threat to release more classified Pentagon and State Department documents is raising difficult questions of what the United States government can or would do, legally, technically or even militarily to stop it.

    Constrained by the global reach of the Internet, sophisticated encryption software and the domestic legal system, the answer seems to be: Not much.

    But if the US government believes that the release of classified documents WikiLeaks is preparing to disclose will threaten national security or put lives at risk, cyber and legal experts say the options could expand to include cyber strikes to take down the WikiLeaks website and destroy its files or covert operations to steal or disable the files.

    It all sounds, at times, like a spy movie, where the possibilities extend as far as the imagination can reach. But most outsiders agree that reality is probably far less dramatic.

    At the center of the drama was the posting last week of a massive 1.4 gigabyte mystery file named "Insurance" on the WikiLeaks website.

    The "Insurance" file is encrypted, nearly impossible to open until WikiLeaks provides the passwords. But experts suggest that if anyone can crack it - it would be the National Security Agency.

    That file, coupled with WikiLeaks' release of more than 77,000 secret military documents last month, prompted the Pentagon to demand that the website's editor-in-chief, Julian Assange, cancel any new document dumps and pull back the Afghan war data he already posted.

    WikiLeaks slammed the demand as an obnoxious threat, and Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell declined to detail what, if any, actions the Defense Department may be ready to take.

    Few people involved, for the Pentagon and other agencies, would talk openly about what the Pentagon or the clandestine NSA could or would do to stop the expected document dump. It is not even clear if U.S. officials actually know what WikiLeaks has.

    "Do we believe that WikiLeaks has additional cables? We do," said State Department spokesman P J Crowley. "Do we believe that those cables are classified? We do. And are they State Department cables? Yes."

    Officials say the data may also include up to 15,000 military documents related to the Afghanistan war that were not made public in the initial release.

    Daniel Schmitt, a WikiLeaks spokesman in Berlin, said Saturday the new batch of classified documents the website is preparing to release will contribute to the public's understanding of the war.

    "Hopefully with this understanding, public scrutiny will then influence governments to develop better politics," he told The Associated Press.

    Ad Feedback Schmitt denied that the disclosure of the documents is a threat to US security interests.

    Assuming the documents contain highly sensitive information that threatens national security, the US must weigh a number of options, experts say.

    First, from a legal standpoint, there is probably little the US government can do to stop WikiLeaks from posting the files.

    It is against federal law to knowingly and willfully disclose or transmit classified information. But Assange, an Australian who has no permanent address and travels frequently, is not a US citizen.

    Since Assange is a foreign citizen living in a foreign country, it's not clear that US law would apply, said Marc Zwillinger, a Washington lawyer and former federal cyber crimes prosecutor. He said prosecutors would have to figure out what crime to charge Assange with, and then face the daunting task of trying to indict him or persuade other authorities to extradite him.

    It would be equally difficult, Zwillinger said, to effectively use an injunction to prevent access to the data.

    "Could the U.S. get an injunction to force US internet providers to block traffic to and from WikiLeaks such that people couldn't access the website?" Zwillinger said. "It's an irrelevant question. There would be thousands of paths to get to it. So it wouldn't really stop people from getting to the site. They would be pushing the legal envelope without any real benefit."

    Legal questions aside, the encrypted file conjures visions of secret codebreakers hunched over their laptops, tearing open secret, protected files in seconds with a few keystrokes.

    Reality is not that simple. It appears WikiLeaks used state-of-the-art software requiring a sophisticated electronic sequence of numbers, called a 256-bit key, to open them.

    The main way to break such an encrypted file is by what's called a "brute force attack," which means trying every possible key, or password, said Herbert Lin, a senior computer science and cryptology expert at the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences.

    Unlike a regular six- or eight-character password that most people use every day, a 256-bit key would equal a 40 to 50 character password, he said.

    If it takes 0.1 nanosecond to test one possible key and you had 100 billion computers to test the possible number variations, "it would take this massive array of computers 10 to the 56th power seconds - the number 1, followed by 56 zeros" to plow through all the possibilities, said Lin.

    How long is that?

    "The age of the universe is 10 to the 17th power seconds," explained Lin. "We will wait a long time for the US government or anyone else to decrypt that file by brute force."

    Could the NSA, which is known for its supercomputing and massive electronic eavesdropping abilities abroad, crack such an impregnable code?

    It depends on how much time and effort they want to put into it, said James Bamford, who has written two books on the NSA.

    The NSA has the largest collection of supercomputers in the world. And officials have known for some time that WikiLeaks has classified files in its possession.

    The agency, he speculated, has probably been looking for a vulnerability or gap in the code, or a backdoor into the commercial encryption program protecting the file.

    At the more extreme end, the NSA, the Pentagon and other US government agencies - including the newly created Cyber Command - have probably reviewed options for using a cyber attack against the website, which could disrupt networks, files, electricity, and so on.

    "This is the kind of thing that they are geared for," said Bamford, "since this is the type of thing a terrorist organization might have - a website that has damaging information on it. They would want to break into it, see what's there and then try to destroy it."

    The vast nature of the Internet, however, makes it essentially impossible to stop something, or take it down, once it has gone out over multiple servers.

    In the end, US officials will have to weigh whether a more aggressive response is worth the public outrage it would likely bring. Most experts predict that, despite the uproar, the government will probably do little other than bluster, and the documents will come out anyway.

    "Once you start messing with the Internet, taking things down, and going to the maximum extent to hide everything from coming out, it doesn't necessarily serve your purpose," said Bamford. "It makes the story bigger than it would have been had the documents been released in the first place."

    "If, in the end, the goal is to decrease the damage, you have to wonder whether pouring fuel on the fire is a reasonable solution," he said.

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    The truth is the truth...aside from subjective interpretation written by all the different sides of the information war. The manufactured wars will have to stop. Whether or not Wikileaks or any other information providers can get any new information through to the public, will remain to be seen. The manufactured wars will continue, but for how long? When will people get tired of paying for the wars? Whether we pay in taxes or in soldiers' lives, it's time to quit. It's about the most powerful grabbing resources, and using the soldiers in these manufactured wars to accomplish the task of dominion. It's about keeping the money flow going: from the mines or oil fields, to the bank accounts of the rich and richer. Now, it's about the grab of lithium and other minerals in Afghanistan. There are no countries, only people working for the Powers. We have no fight with the people of other countries! The world wants peace. The "bad guys" we must stop are the ones who make all this "us against them" stuff up and expect us to believe it all. As my Grandfather would say, it's horse sh!t. Don't let the miners of resources create wars...it's in their best interest, not the interest of the rest of us. What if they gave a war and nobody came?

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    Pentagon ready to talk with WikiLeaks?

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said the Pentagon has expressed willingness to discuss the online whistleblower's request for help in reviewing classified documents from the Afghan war and removing information that could harm civilians. The Pentagon denied any direct contacts with WikiLeaks.

    "This week we received contact through our lawyers that the General Counsel" of the Pentagon "says now that they want to discuss the issue," Assange told The Associated Press by telephone.

    Assange added that the contacts have been brokered by the US Army Criminal Investigation Command, which "CID" denies.

    "Any allegations that we are somehow involved in the redaction or review of material, we flatly deny," said CID spokesman Chris Grey.

    Grey declined to comment on whether Army investigators had been approached at all by WikiLeaks to review the war files, but Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said there had been no "direct" contact on the matter.

    Whitman also said the Pentagon is not interested in cooperating with WikiLeaks to purge the names of Afghan informants from the files.

    "We are not interested in negotiating some sort of minimized or sanitized version of classified documents," he said.

    "These documents are property of the United States government," Whitman said. "The unauthorized release of them threatens the lives of coalition forces as well as Afghan nationals."

    Assange said Wednesday that "contact has been established" but added it was not clear whether and how the US military would assist WikiLeaks.

    "It is always positive for parties to talk to each other," Assange said. "We welcome their engagement."

    He reiterated that WikiLeaks plans to release its second batch of secret Afghan war documents within "two weeks to a month."

    The first files in its "Afghan War Diary" laid bare classified military documents covering the war in Afghanistan from 2004 to 2010. The release angered US officials, energized critics of the Nato-led campaign, and drew the attention of the Taliban, which has promised to use the material to track down people it considers traitors.

    Non-governmental organisations, including the Paris-based media watchdog Reporters Without Borders, have criticised WikiLeaks as being irresponsible.

    WikiLeaks describes itself as a public service organisation for whistleblowers, journalists and activists.

    "We encourage other media and human rights groups who have a genuine concern about reviewing the material to assist us with the difficult and very expensive task of getting a large historical archive into the public's record," Assange said.

    The Australian was in Sweden in part to prepare an application for a publishing certificate that would allow WikiLeaks to take full advantage of the Scandinavian nation's press freedom laws.

    That also means WikiLeaks would have to appoint a publisher that could be held legally responsible for the material. Assange said that person would be "either me or one of our Swedish people."

    WikiLeaks routes its material through Sweden and Belgium because of the whistleblower protection offered by laws in those countries. But it also has backup servers in other countries to make sure the site is not shut down, Assange said.

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    Warning? Scare Tactics?



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    Publicity stunt more like it

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    Swedish rape warrant for Wikileaks' Assange cancelled

    Julian Assange had been cited as saying the release of the allegations was "deeply disturbing" Swedish authorities have cancelled an arrest warrant for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on accusations of rape and molestation.

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority website said the chief prosecutor had come to the decision that Mr Assange was not suspected of rape.

    The warrant was issued late on Friday.

    Wikileaks, which has been criticised for leaking Afghan war documents, had quoted Mr Assange as saying the charges were "without basis".

    That message, which appeared on Twitter and was attributed directly to Mr Assange, said the appearance of the allegations "at this moment is deeply disturbing".

    In a series of other messages posted on the Wikileaks Twitter feed, the whistle-blowing website said: "No-one here has been contacted by Swedish police", and that it had been warned to expect "dirty tricks".

    The Swedish Prosecution Authority website said chief prosecutor Eva Finne had come to the decision that Julian Assange was not suspected of rape and so was not subject to arrest. It said Eva Finne would make no further immediate comment.

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    Think of it this way, If Assange is actually an asset, and the rape charge was there to increase his sense of legitimacy..what purpose could the leaks serve? then contemplate this as an opposing viewpoint. Ie, legitimate attempt to take down a legitimate whistleblower.

    In either case, you end up at least with confusion, insofar as the public is concerned..and in the end...that is all the intelligence community and those who control nations could ever want, and all they have ever really aimed for. As they know the rest is actually impossible and ultimately counterproductive to their aims.
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    Wikileaks releases CIA 'exporter of terrorism' report

    Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has published a CIA memo examining the implications of the US being perceived as an "exporter of terrorism".
    The three-page report from February 2010 says the participation of US-based individuals in terrorism is "not a recent phenomenon".

    The report cites attacks by US-based or financed Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorists Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has published a CIA memo examining the implications of the US being perceived as an "exporter of terrorism".

    The three-page report from February 2010 says the participation of US-based individuals in terrorism is "not a recent phenomenon".

    The report cites attacks by US-based or financed Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorists Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has published a CIA memo examining the implications of the US being perceived as an "exporter of terrorism".

    The three-page report from February 2010 says the participation of US-based individuals in terrorism is "not a recent phenomenon".

    The memo cites several cases of alleged terrorist acts by US residents.

    An official played down the report from the CIA's so-called Red Cell, saying it was "not exactly a blockbuster paper".

    The Red Cell was set up in the wake of the 9/11 attacks to offer an "out-of-the-box" approach and "produce memos intended to provoke thought rather than to provide authoritative assessment", the CIA website says.

    CIA spokesman George Little said: "These sorts of analytic products - clearly identified as coming from the Agency's 'Red Cell' - are designed simply to provoke thought and present different points of view."

    The report, which highlights attacks by US-based or US-financed Jewish, Muslim and Irish-American terrorists, questions how foreign perceptions of the US could change with continued attacks.

    "Much attention has been paid recently to the increasing occurrence of American-grown Islamic terrorists conducting attacks against US targets, primarily in the homeland. Less attention has been paid to homegrown terrorism, not exclusively Muslim terrorists, exported overseas to target non-US persons," the report says.

    The memo, titled What If Foreigners See the United States as an 'Exporter of Terrorism'?, concludes that if the US is perceived by other nations as an "exporter of terrorism", those countries may be less willing to co-operate with the US in the detention, transfer and interrogation of future suspects.

    Wikileaks on 23 July published 76,000 secret US military logs detailing military actions in Afghanistan, an act the US authorities described as highly irresponsible.

    The website now says it will release 15,000 further sensitive documents, once it has completed a review aimed at minimising the risk that their publication could put people's lives in danger.

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    CIA memo on United States as 'exporter of terrorism' published by Wikileaks
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...Wikileaks.html
    A classified CIA memo discussing the United States as a possible
    "exporter of terrorism" because of al-Qaeda recruitment in America has
    been posted on website, Wikileaks.

    By Alastair Jamieson
    Published: 9:00AM BST 26 Aug 2010


    The three-page document addressed the hypothetical question of the
    impact on the United States if Americans were found to be operating
    abroad to carry out acts of terrorism.

    The CIA memo, produced by the agency's Red Cell 'think tank' set up
    after the September 11 attacks, does not appear to expose any state
    secrets and was dismissed by one government official as hardly a
    "blockbuster."

    It is the latest classified memo to be published by the
    whistle-blowing website, which last month released more than 70,000
    secret military documents on the allied war in Afghanistan, prompting
    an FBI investigation.

    It has threatened to release some 15,000 more, despite criticism that
    the leaks endangered the lives of sources and exposed sensitive
    intelligence gathering methods to enemy fighters.

    The latest memo said the United States could lose leverage over allies
    to co-operate on terrorism, particularly on "extra-judicial
    activities".

    "Primarily we have been concerned about al Qaeda infiltrating
    operatives into the United States to conduct terrorist attacks, but AQ
    may be increasingly looking for Americans to operate overseas," the
    document proposes.

    "Undoubtedly al Qaeda and other terrorist groups recognise that
    Americans can be great assets in terrorist operations overseas."

    It said US citizens are valuable to terrorist organisations because
    they are harder to detect. They don't fit the typical Arab-Muslim
    profile and can easily communicate with leaders through their
    "unfettered" access to the internet and other methods, the report
    said.

    The report cited cases of Americans involved in alleged plots in
    Pakistan, India and elsewhere and said "contrary to common belief, the
    American export of terrorism or terrorists is not a recent
    phenomenon."

    The CIA played down the paper's significance, noting Red Cell teams of
    analysts were tasked with taking up hypothetical scenarios and
    presenting alternate views, divergent from mainstream thinking.

    "These sorts of analytic products – clearly identified as coming from
    the Agency's 'Red Cell' – are designed simply to provoke thought and
    present different points of view," said spokesman George Little.

    It said the United States had a certain amount of leverage with allies
    on extradition requests following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, but
    warned that could change.

    "If the US were seen as an 'exporter of terrorism,' foreign
    governments could request a reciprocal arrangement that would impact
    US sovereignty," it said.

    It said foreign governments could request information on U.S. citizens
    or request their "rendition," or the secret, extra-judicial transfer
    of a terrorism suspect abroad.

    "U.S. refusal to co-operate with foreign government requests for
    extradition might lead some governments to consider secretly
    extracting U.S. citizens," the report said.

    It also warned of potential obstruction of U.S. efforts and cited an
    Italian case against CIA agents, who were convicted last year of
    kidnapping a terrorism suspect in Milan and flying him to Egypt, where
    he says he was tortured during questioning.

    "The proliferation of such cases would not only challenge US bilateral
    relations with other countries but also damage global counterterrorism
    efforts," it said.
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