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    Default Too much person, no presence

    30- 40 years to find wots closest all the time, even closer.

    Spiritual paths leading somewhere else as all paths do.

    Wots so hard with this moment, here? LOL




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvzw...19RVAAAAAAAACw


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    I love this man Jorr. Thanks for posting. A friend passed him onto me about a month ago, it was a talk he did on relationships.

    I like what he says here .. oh the noisy one, I know that one.

    Quote Some people are proud of their opinions
    *smiling, nodding --*

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    Loved the Russian doll analogy.
    "The innermost is the most pure. Untouched; but it´s always there.
    Then the first extension is like...I´m alive.
    And then...I am me!
    The doll you see is the last extension...the biggest one and most noisy."
    Thanks for that!
    The heart knows a hundred thousand ways to speak.
    ~ rumi

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    Excellent, thank you Jorr! I've never heard of this man before and I am so grateful that I've encountered him because of you.

    All things are subject to intepretation, and whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
    — Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Posted by Zebra (here)
    Quote Some people are proud of their opinions
    *smiling, nodding --*

    Opinions vary -- on that we all agree.

    What doesn’t change is not an opinion.

    Whether it is believed or not makes no difference to it.

    Whether or not the breath cycle continues or not
    attracts similar interest.

    Whether or not some warm exotic nectar
    flows up and down the spine in splendid light
    means nothing special to it.

    Nothing makes a difference.

    This is what it sees:

    This.

    We are what it sees through, breathes out of and into --
    as breathing itself, as seeing itself.

    When the breathing stops, there is that which doesn't.

    Some call it nothing, some everything – see what I mean?

    Opinions vary. What doesn't?

    When we stand up, what's standing?

    When sitting, what’s sitting?

    Dust is dust, for all that matters.

    Coming upon one thing that truly matters,
    agreement and non-agreement become obsolete.

    There is that which doesn't – doesn’t become obsolete,
    doesn’t become anything it already isn’t.

    Yes, opinions vary -- best to find out for oneself,
    and leave opinions be.

    On this, perhaps, we can all agree,
    though whether the answer is Yes or No
    doesn’t make a difference.

    Nothing makes a difference.

    You can always count on nothing --
    it adds or subtracts the same.

    There is no safety in nothing.

    Paradoxically perhaps, it’s the only safety there is.

    Nothing to gain, nothing to lose –
    the original one and only nothing!

    It may be known by many names, but nothing ever comes of them.

    Nothing even comes close.

    It cannot be known, named, or blamed for anything,
    since nothing ever happens here,
    though that’s commonly misunderstood.

    Nothing holy in it, nothing not.

    In a feat of magic beyond compare, each one of us
    inhales and exhales with nothing up our sleeves but air!

    Really, nothing to it!

    If it’s nothing personal, why make it personal?

    Whatever the current consensus opinion,
    it’s still nobody’s business.

    Nothing to get hung about, as somebody once said.

    Nothing changes, nothing remains the same (in bed).

    There’s nothing to write home about,
    when there’s nothing to be said.

    Nothing makes a difference, so
    relax and rest your head.



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    Default Re: Too much person, no presence

    Quote Posted by another bob (here)

    Nothing makes a difference, so
    relax and rest your head.


    In the end, we find that it is just so simple


    Jeanette

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    Default Re: Too much person, no presence

    and I would add...and it was all about Love....



    Quote Posted by Jenci (here)
    Quote Posted by another bob (here)

    Nothing makes a difference, so
    relax and rest your head.


    In the end, we find that it is just so simple


    Jeanette

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    Bob, beautifully put, you silence me into a smile and to just blow it away. This deserves a bump.


    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Quote Posted by Zebra (here)
    Quote Some people are proud of their opinions
    *smiling, nodding --*

    Opinions vary -- on that we all agree.

    What doesn’t change is not an opinion.

    Whether it is believed or not makes no difference to it.

    Whether or not the breath cycle continues or not
    attracts similar interest.

    Whether or not some warm exotic nectar
    flows up and down the spine in splendid light
    means nothing special to it.

    Nothing makes a difference.

    This is what it sees:

    This.

    We are what it sees through, breathes out of and into --
    as breathing itself, as seeing itself.

    When the breathing stops, there is that which doesn't.

    Some call it nothing, some everything – see what I mean?

    Opinions vary. What doesn't?

    When we stand up, what's standing?

    When sitting, what’s sitting?

    Dust is dust, for all that matters.

    Coming upon one thing that truly matters,
    agreement and non-agreement become obsolete.

    There is that which doesn't – doesn’t become obsolete,
    doesn’t become anything it already isn’t.

    Yes, opinions vary -- best to find out for oneself,
    and leave opinions be.

    On this, perhaps, we can all agree,
    though whether the answer is Yes or No
    doesn’t make a difference.

    Nothing makes a difference.

    You can always count on nothing --
    it adds or subtracts the same.

    There is no safety in nothing.

    Paradoxically perhaps, it’s the only safety there is.

    Nothing to gain, nothing to lose –
    the original one and only nothing!

    It may be known by many names, but nothing ever comes of them.

    Nothing even comes close.

    It cannot be known, named, or blamed for anything,
    since nothing ever happens here,
    though that’s commonly misunderstood.

    Nothing holy in it, nothing not.

    In a feat of magic beyond compare, each one of us
    inhales and exhales with nothing up our sleeves but air!

    Really, nothing to it!

    If it’s nothing personal, why make it personal?

    Whatever the current consensus opinion,
    it’s still nobody’s business.

    Nothing to get hung about, as somebody once said.

    Nothing changes, nothing remains the same (in bed).

    There’s nothing to write home about,
    when there’s nothing to be said.

    Nothing makes a difference, so
    relax and rest your head.



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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    30- 40 years to find wots closest all the time, even closer.

    Spiritual paths leading somewhere else as all paths do.

    Wots so hard with this moment, here? LOL




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvzw...19RVAAAAAAAACw


    All is well


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    Fire in the heart!


    That's great, Jorr. Thanks
    Jeanette

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    Yes, yes, yes everyone, all is well

    You, we are here. Simple? Of course.




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fombx...feature=relmfu


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    I really appreciate you short and to the point posts Jorr.
    ( being dyslexic I struggle with long ones at times)

    I like the teaching that flows through Mooji also--- a beautiful relaxing presence with a voice to match.
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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Wots so hard with this moment, here?



    Stop dead in your tracks.
    It doesn't matter at all, what you've ever done, or not done.
    It doesn't matter how grandiose, self-centered,
    arrogant, or neurotic you've ever been.
    It doesn't matter how brilliant you've been, or how stupid you've been.
    It doesn't matter what you've ever experienced, or not experienced.
    It doesn't matter how much good you've ever done, or how much harm you've
    ever done, your whole life long.
    Nothing that has ever happened to you makes any difference at all.
    It doesn't make any difference how many times you've been enlightened, or
    not enlightened, or how powerful, profound, or intense those experiences may
    have been.
    The only thing that matters, that really matters at all,
    is whether you are willing to be completely alive, awake and free,
    this very moment - this very instant.
    The only thing that makes any difference - any difference at all,
    is whether you are willing to let go of all mental and emotional -
    all historical and future versions of yourself and your life,
    and simply be what you are, completely and absolutely, right now.
    We are simply awareness - pure, infinite, and wide open.
    Our nature is to be unconditionally kind, honest, wise, and sincere,
    tender, affectionate, sensitive, and compassionate,
    without reservation, right now.
    It's the most natural thing in the world,
    and there is nothing real in the way.
    Everywhere is your home.
    Everyone is your lover, your child, your mother, your father, your sister,
    and your brother, your best friend. Every one is your own reflection.
    Your heart is aching to be What you are,
    to be Everything that you are,
    on this breath.
    Don't put it off another instant.


    (Scott Morrison)

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    We are free, have always been. LOL

    There is no sharing.

    Im responible for wot I say, not wot you understand

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    I search for the truth on my terms ...It keeps doing a runner. When I get close It's like two north poles trying to embrace!....I may turn around one day..Ouch

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    That was a great clip Jorr. Thank you! ♥


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    Viral. Nothing else but nothing is certain. LOL




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    as is change....






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    Aaaaah, change is naaating. LOL


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    There is a kind of knowing, like a tender touching without hands, that impregnates the whole body in such a way that even stopping here would be a futile after-thought.

    An aromatic thread of smoke drifts lazily through a burgundy night, suffusing mind’s tabernacle of lost vocabularies with the unmistakable intensity of your kindled ardor's secret language.

    And if the brilliant body of your diamond being, which you suspect but not yet know to be infused with an interior supernal light, an unaccountable radiance –

    that self-same body once believed to be other than bliss, other than worthy of this kiss, the kiss of Love that awakens itself to the fully conscious suchness of This

    if that very body now were to become such a vulnerability of open-hearted expansion, hot tears brimming, no fear at last, no longer any rising of it, no elegant armor of cool resistance to the mutual permeation of soul and Supreme,

    then your inherent tenderness could not help but unfurl itself into warm glad tidings of streaming blessing for the children borne in your womb of mind, images in fluid ghostly motion, as if in a pantomime of time, arriving at dream crossroads, waiting for the light to change, waiting for the moment we are born again to find we’re in no other world,

    we’re here, no branding marks on what that is, no pause or retreat, no advance to the front, no re-grouping arrears, no intimate past, nor delicious tomorrow, just this which devours all worlds within worlds, this one with our face in the mirror of change, whispering,

    everything changes

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    Wot always is here, never not here.....................




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkOaF3Ce8o


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