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    Hello Avalonians I have a question about vit D3, can anyone share which brand(make) the are buying?
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    I've been using this one for the past 6 months (or so), quality seems pretty good...

    Healthy Origins - Vitamin D3 - 5000 IU - 360 Softgels

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    Thanks for bringing up Vitamin D. I would like to add a little info that I haven't seen posted yet that is VERY important.When taking Vitamin D it is really essential to take Vitamin K2 with the vitamin D for complete utilization and proper calcium transport. Taking large amounts of vitamin D without K2 can be detriment Life Extension makes a good blend of D3, K2 and iodine. I could start a whole thread on iodine deficiency but that is a bit off topic.

    Remember, your best source of D3 is sunlight. If you live in an area with a lot of sun a sunbath of 15 minutes a day will supply you with the best D3. The next option is a tanning bed that delivers UVB rays. You can get all the D3 you need with 8 minute sessions a couple of days a week, its important not to overdue it

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    https://www.sciencealert.com/vitamin...nothing-at-all

    Vitamin D kills rats, it is in rat poison. I prefer the sun 20 minutes gives me all the vitaminD i need.

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    Quote Posted by nzreva (here)
    Vitamin D kills rats, it is in rat poison. I prefer the sun 20 minutes gives me all the vitaminD i need.
    Let me guess - you do not live at high latitudes, you are not very dark skinned, and you are not a computer nerd who works mostly at night and indoors ?

    My present understanding is that both too little, and too much Vitamin D is unhealthy, for both rats and humans. Granted, since rats make their own Vitamin D, it's unlikely they will have too little, unless other factors such as starvation or a genetic defect are in play.

    Vitamin D insufficiency is apparently a widespread problem, for us humans in "modern" civilization anyway, and supplements can help, for the many of us that don't get enough sunlight.

    Whether one uses real sunlight, a sun lamp, or supplements, I suspect it's worth figuring out whether one is getting too little, sufficient, or excessive Vitamin D.

    This article, one of many, provides more information on how time of day and latitude effect how much Vitamin D a typical body, outside and skin exposed, might get from sunlight: Sunshine Calendar.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    This article, one of many, provides more information on how time of day and latitude effect how much Vitamin D a typical body, outside and skin exposed, might get from sunlight: Sunshine Calendar.
    It doesn't say that I can see on this page, but I suspect that it is showing results based on the "Recommended" daily allowance of Vitamin D.

    I also suspect, and guide my personal Vitamin D intake, on the assumption that the officially Recommended daily allowance is (roughly) one-tenth of the optimum daily amount consumed or created using light.

    To get that higher daily dose, I would find most places in the US to have insufficient sunlight, unless I was normally outdoors a lot in the middle of the day, with plenty of exposed skin, for hours. Even then, during the winter, much of the US is simply too high latitude to provide sufficient sunlight, for all but the most dedicated sun worshipper.
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    A question .
    I decided some time ago and from my own investigations to take a daily Vitamin D3 supplement . However ,now that I have read this thread and then based on a little more reading , I have decided that I can and will move my dosage from the present 25 ug a day to 100 ug .
    Each pill I will be taking is small and 25ug --- 4 a day . So 4000 IU
    But 100 ug is only is only 100 milligrams which is 100 millionth of a gram , or putting it another way , 100x one thousandth of a milligram .
    Goodness knows what makes up the rest of the pills , but how do I best know that each pill actually has the quoted dosage -- 25ug of this DE3 vitamin ?
    Absurdly I have this picture of a fast moving production line and women poised to apply a dab of D3 to each pill as they rush past with the tip of a fine paint brush . Obviously silly . But how can machinery ensure the correct amalgam allocation per pill ? Is there really a mixing process which guarantees that each pill is made up exactly of the quoted dosage?
    Would the 'old' method of swallowing a teaspoon of a liquid be better ? Or should I move to somewhere like Spain and take up fishing ?

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    Quote Posted by ripple (here)
    A question .
    I decided some time ago and from my own investigations to take a daily Vitamin D3 supplement . However ,now that I have read this thread and then based on a little more reading , I have decided that I can and will move my dosage from the present 25 ug a day to 100 ug .
    Each pill I will be taking is small and 25ug --- 4 a day . So 4000 IU
    Yes, 1 µg = 40 IU. I take 5000 IU a day (these single capsules), unless I've been hiking in the mountains. If I feel ever feel a cold or sore throat coming on (which is rare), I increase that to 10,000 or occasionally 20,000.

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    Default Re: Vitamin D beats vaccines every day

    I also take 5,000 iu d3 daily, have done for years. If I begin to feel ill I will up it to 10,000 - one can go up to 30,000 daily if very poorly.
    In addition I take daily B12, thiamine, 1000 iu slow release vit C, high strength milk thistle, and organic turmeric curcumin with organic black pepper, and if anything weird going on use my home-made colloidal silver solution either topically, by ingesting, or by nebulising. Don’t often get ill. Skin infections can usually be cleared up applying medical grade manuka honey.

    I have been trying some of Bob’s recommendations for ‘brain clarity’, such as taurine 500, but got some minor side effects so am off that at the moment.

    Absolutely hate going to the doctor, refuse vaccinations, no fluoride if it can be avoided.

    Seemingly have avoided loads of nasties for years.... fingers crossed....!
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    As a minimum you can take 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3 per day for the next 4 weeks and beyond, this will give your body a massive resource for immunity response. Henry Deacon always said this, and he is right.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    As a minimum you can take 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3 per day for the next 4 weeks and beyond, this will give your body a massive resource for immunity response. Henry Deacon always said this, and he is right.
    Henry Deacon’s advice isn’t right for everyone. I’d suggest comparing the benefits vs the side effect of taking vitamin D3 as a stand alone solution. Excessive amounts can cause toxicity and an imbalance to other body systems.
    Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

    The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones.

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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    As a minimum you can take 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3 per day for the next 4 weeks and beyond, this will give your body a massive resource for immunity response. Henry Deacon always said this, and he is right.
    Henry Deacon’s advice isn’t right for everyone. I’d suggest comparing the benefits vs the side effect of taking vitamin D3 as a stand alone solution. Excessive amounts can cause toxicity and an imbalance to other body systems.
    Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

    The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones.
    Just a quick note: 10,000 iu's a day for any amount of time isn't an excess amount of vitamin D at all (unless maybe you sun tan all day, every day). 50,000 - 100,000 iu's per each day over several months is probably the minimum amount needed to cause vitamin D toxicity in a healthy human. In early studies on using megadosing vitamin D as cure for all diseases (with some interesting successes), they were giving patients up to 1,000,000 ius per day for weeks on end.

    One test subject died, considered to be caused by Vit D toxicity. And from this study in the 50,s or 60's is where we get, still, the idea that too much vitamin D will kill us. But proper perspective is obviously required here.

    The fact that there were some amazing successes in treating disease with high dose vitamin D, is mostly why high doses have been demonized, with this one study as the "proof" of the danger of taking higher doses of vitamins D. 1) Big pharma can't patent Vitamin D, 2) higher dosing has been shown to be able to treat disease, which goes against big pharma "profit from sickness" model.

    5,000 - 10,000 iu's is fine and recommended, especially if you don't get a lot of sun. If you do get a lot of sun, you don't need to supplement - the skin is very efficient at creating it from sun exposure in healthy people - at 50% skin exposure, you can get tens of thousands of iu's in just 30 minutes in direct sunlight (windows block the radiation needed to trigger the production process so it doesn't work through windows).

    Anyway
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    As a minimum you can take 10,000 IU's of vitamin D3 per day for the next 4 weeks and beyond, this will give your body a massive resource for immunity response. Henry Deacon always said this, and he is right.
    Henry Deacon’s advice isn’t right for everyone. I’d suggest comparing the benefits vs the side effect of taking vitamin D3 as a stand alone solution. Excessive amounts can cause toxicity and an imbalance to other body systems.
    Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. That's because your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced by sun exposure, and even fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

    The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones.
    While what you say is a good caution, the quantity of people who are deficient in D3 is incredible, with today's indoor lifestyle and heliophobic propaganda, you can safely take 5,000 IU's per day. An afternoon in the sun can produce upwards of 20,000 IU's.

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    Mod note from Bill:

    I just moved the above 4 posts from the October Surprise thread (hence all the smileys you can see!), also bumping this thread from 2012. In addition, it offers me a place to post this from Chris Martenson (2 days old), very much on point as always.

    Vitamin D Reduces Mortality Risk by -89%


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    There is a comprehensive e-book on Vitamin D by Dr. Mercola in the PA library now that goes into dosage recommendations, thanks to Tintin.

    Vitamin_D_in_the_Prevention_of_Covid-19_Joseph_Mercola_2020.pdf
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    About a couple of years ago I started to take, daily, these:

    Vitamin C
    Vitamin D & D3
    Zinc

    I take esomeprazole daily to help my stomach lining after some surgery about 2 years ago, and I also take Ibuprofen and Codeine in small amounts. I also smoke tobacco, not excessively, around 10 roll-ups a day.

    I haven't had a bad cold or 'flu' for a few years now, and, I'm not sure if this is true, but I definitely recall hearing that no smokers had so far succumbed to 'Corona Virus'....... ? Not sure. I also have 2 bottles of MMS to hand for anything 'serious'.

    But this little pearl I know is true:

    Of all the people that have reported being abducted by them darn Aliens........ Not one of them was a smoker!

    Ergo, the only reason I smoke is to protect myself from Alien Abduction!
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    Yet another benefit of vitamin D in this study:

    Vitamin D levels during pregnancy linked with child IQ
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    A study showed that mothers' vitamin D levels during pregnancy were associated with their children's IQ, suggesting that higher vitamin D levels in pregnancy may lead to greater childhood IQ scores.

    "Vitamin D is a critical nutrient and has many important functions in the body. A mother's vitamin D supply is passed to her baby in utero and helps regulate processes including brain development. A study published today in The Journal of Nutrition showed that mothers' vitamin D levels during pregnancy were associated with their children's IQ, suggesting that higher vitamin D levels in pregnancy may lead to greater childhood IQ scores. The study also identified significantly lower levels of vitamin D levels among Black pregnant women."
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    New from Chris Martenson 3 days ago, the first half being all about Vitamin D. (He lampoons the UK for their vitamin D recommendations being way too low. )


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    thanks Bill vit D seems to give me some heart pain. i think up to 5000 iu is my limit per day. the 10,000 iu gives me heart pain immideately

    Meat Suite, colloidal silver, the greatest medical treatment secret in my lifetime bar none. just cured a diverticuli attack that i get every now and then.

    3 droppers under tongue, swallow 3 times a day. drink water, was gone in 4 days and back to normal

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    Quote Posted by The Moss Trooper (here)
    About a couple of years ago I started to take, daily, these:

    Vitamin C
    Vitamin D & D3
    Zinc

    I take esomeprazole daily to help my stomach lining after some surgery about 2 years ago, and I also take Ibuprofen and Codeine in small amounts. I also smoke tobacco, not excessively, around 10 roll-ups a day.

    I haven't had a bad cold or 'flu' for a few years now, and, I'm not sure if this is true, but I definitely recall hearing that no smokers had so far succumbed to 'Corona Virus'....... ? Not sure. I also have 2 bottles of MMS to hand for anything 'serious'.

    But this little pearl I know is true:

    Of all the people that have reported being abducted by them darn Aliens........ Not one of them was a smoker!

    Ergo, the only reason I smoke is to protect myself from Alien Abduction!
    As a kid I once asked my uncle his reasons for smoking roll-ups.

    "They're full of Vitamin C" was his response / dismissal.

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    • Vitamin D, Now Conclusive!

    Definitive Evidence from Meta-Analysis and Trial Sequential Analysis ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9864223 (Italy) Various studies, a association between severe vitamin D deficiency and bad COVID-19 outcomes.

    Vitamin D plays a crucial role in immune function and inflammation. Recent data suggest a protective role of vitamin D against bad outcomes Nutraceutical approach Promote the immune response and reduce the inflammatory response Anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, and immunomodulatory properties of vitamin D Immune optimisation and immune boosting Vitamin D maintains pulmonary barrier function Determines the production of antimicrobial peptides Enhances neutrophil activity Shifts the adaptive immune response to a more T helper cell-2 type Anti-inflammatory effects of vitamin D Reduces the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as IL-6, IL-8, IL-9, IL-12, TNF alfa, IFN gamma Increases production of anti-inflammatory cytokines, such as IL-4, IL-5, IL-10 Patients with a low baseline vitamin D, more benefit Reduce risk of asthma exacerbations Prevents acute respiratory infections, and reducing their complications COVID-19 and vitamin D (Co-VIVID study): a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8862170

    The rates of RT-CR positivity were significantly decreased in the intervention group as compared to the non-vitamin D groups (RR = 0.46) Conclusively, COVID-19 patients supplemented with vitamin D, fewer rates of ICU admission, mortality events, and RT-PCR positivity. Meta-analysis and trial sequential analysis (TSA) Better explain the strength of association Protective role of vitamin D supplementation, and risk of mortality / admission to intensive care units We searched four databases on 20 September 2022. Screened the randomized clinical trials (RCTs) Assessed the risk of bias (how to adjust thresholds for significance in randomised clinical trials when the required sample size has not been reached) The pre-specified outcomes of interest Mortality and ICU admission 78 bibliographic citations Five RCTs were suitable for our analysis Results Vitamin D administration results in a decreased risk of death, 0.49 Vitamin D administration results in a decreased risk of ICU admission, 0.28 Protective role of vitamin D and ICU admission The TSA of the protective role of vitamin D and ICU admission showed that, since the pooling of the studies reached a definite sample size, the positive association is conclusive. The studies Effects of a 2-Week 5000 IU versus 1000 IU Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Recovery of Symptoms in Patients with Mild to Moderate Covid-19: A Randomized Clinical Trial The rates of RT-CR positivity were significantly decreased in the intervention group as compared to the non-vitamin D groups (RR = 0.46) Conclusively, COVID-19 patients supplemented with vitamin D, fewer rates of ICU admission, mortality events, and RT-PCR positivity. Meta-analysis and trial sequential analysis (TSA) Better explain the strength of association Protective role of vitamin D supplementation, and risk of mortality / admission to intensive care units We searched four databases on 20 September 2022. Screened the randomized clinical trials (RCTs) Assessed the risk of bias (how to adjust thresholds for significance in randomised clinical trials when the required sample size has not been reached) The pre-specified outcomes of interest Mortality and ICU admission 78 bibliographic citations Five RCTs were suitable for our analysis Results Vitamin D administration results in a decreased risk of death, 0.49 Vitamin D administration results in a decreased risk of ICU admission, 0.28 Protective role of vitamin D and ICU admission The TSA of the protective role of vitamin D and ICU admission showed that, since the pooling of the studies reached a definite sample size, the positive association is conclusive.

    The studies Effects of a 2-Week 5000 IU versus 1000 IU Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Recovery of Symptoms in Patients with Mild to Moderate Covid-19: A Randomized Clinical Trial ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9864223 (Saudi) Effect of calcifediol treatment and best available therapy versus best available therapy on intensive care unit admission and mortality among patients hospitalized for COVID-19: A pilot randomized clinical study ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194 (Spain) Changes in the immune response against SARS-CoV-2 in individuals with severe COVID-19 treated with high dose of vitamin D ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9008199 (Spain) Effect of a Single High Dose of Vitamin D3 on Hospital Length of Stay in Patients With Moderate to Severe COVID-19 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7890452 (Brazil) Calcifediol treatment and COVID-19-related outcomes ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8344647 (Spain) Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1538 86% industry funded
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