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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    I've watched many hours of Alex Jones. If he's a fake, I'd be hard pressed to see how. He is constantly the only voice exposing the idiots in charge. He relentlessly stays on their backs. If he was fake, he'd be kissing ass like Rachel Maddow.

    Sure his shows go to extremes to make a point. I'm glad he's cares and is pissed. I'm sure some of it's acting. Still, Alex Jones has called out the Bushes, Obama, the NWO, the Illuminati and just about every piece of criminal crap legislation ever enacted. He's the voice of reason. He's a huge Ron Paul supporter!

    I don't see how anyone who has listened to hours of Alex Jones's stuff could find this story even remotely creditable. More likely is designed to discredit Jones to people who have never listened to him before. Remember, they successfully labeled Ron Paul a crackpot in 2008. The goal is to get you to stop listening before you start.
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

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    Alex only planned to speak on two occasions, there was nothing cancelled.

    Listening to his shows in their entirety clearly reveals, that his underlying message is positive. It's about humanity rising, about becoming self-responsible, about being a dencent person, helping others and so on.

    If he somehow works for the cabal, it doesn't work out too well for the cabal. The number of people, who started "waking up" to the bigger picture because of Alex is just off the charge and the news he presents is very valuable. Guess what would all be done and implemented by the cabal if there was no media coverage and thus no public awareness/reaction?

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    I wrote this right after reading the OP, now I just reiterated what has been replied before
    This is simple white smoke tactics. Look over here while this is going on over there. I also my self have to look in history to see what has happened to men that reveal truths, or have radical ideas that would change the system we live in. They are supressed. This comment is all speculation of course but I have a hard time believing a system so controlled by the cabal would allow a man like this to roam free. Its apparently self destructive to the cabal if hes on the air, but also if he works for them is self destructive to them. So it seems either way the cabal or whoever is not as smart as we think I guess lol.
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

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    Quote Posted by christian (here)
    Alex only planned to speak on two occasions, there was nothing cancelled.

    Listening to his shows in their entirety clearly reveals, that his underlying message is positive. It's about humanity rising, about becoming self-responsible, about being a dencent person, helping others and so on.

    If he somehow works for the cabal, it doesn't work out too well for the cabal. The number of people, who started "waking up" to the bigger picture because of Alex is just off the charge and the news he presents is very valuable. Guess what would all be done and implemented by the cabal if there was no media coverage and thus no public awareness/reaction?

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    I wrote this right after reading the OP, now I just reiterated what has been replied before
    This is simple white smoke tactics. Look over here while this is going on over there. I also my self have to look in history to see what has happened to men that reveal truths, or have radical ideas that would change the system we live in. They are supressed. This comment is all speculation of course but I have a hard time believing a system so controlled by the cabal would allow a man like this to roam free. Its apparently self destructive to the cabal if hes on the air, but also if he works for them is self destructive to them. So it seems either way the cabal or whoever is not as smart as we think I guess lol.
    I guess David Icke, Bill & Kerry, David Wilcock, Ben Fulford ect. works for the cabal too? Alex Jones may be too high of a profile guy to just kill in broad daylight. Heck, they still don't have the whole 911 mess to cover up. LOL

    In any case, it fun to speculate. Good or Evil? As for his message... Good. If you listen to Sharpton, Jackson or Obama, the message is bad. Enough said.

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    Just remember that is you that bundled them into the web of alex jones. I do not feel the same as you when it comes to David, Bill, and willcock. I don't know kerry or Ben. You are claiming I said any of them work for the cabal? I was the first to say I don't know lol. It honestly takes an intelligent person to realize they dont have all the facts. Its just my opinion on the man that doesn't make it fact or credible or anything. I am skeptical of any person I listen to, come in contact with or whatever. Many people have agendas that we may not be privy too :>
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Alex is another Rush Limbaugh, when it comes to trying to scare people. People, when you look at it all, they've done this before. Three times in 30 years by Republican/Corporate politicians, NOT working for the citizens of this country. When did the people's government dissolve, and why has it continued? Isn't there a "Real American" that can tell these people to go to hell and mean it?
    If other races didn't check their crazy, there would be concentration camps and posse's across the nation.

    It's time this AMERICAN CONSTITUTION FOR EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL, IS PUT INTO EFFECT.

    Can't Ralph Nader and other prominant citizens like Bill Clinton or Dennis Kucinich, get the ball rolling, so head will roll for the deceitful lies and misappropriation of Federal Dollars, Theft by deceptive financial practices. This is a Bunko, Untouchable moment for OUR generations that saw this coming, and knew what had to be done. WE saw and continue to see them doing the same skimming or LEECHING off the people by manipulating values, to increase their holdings. LIVING off the working poor and middle class like ELITE TICKS.

    I definately will be glad to see JUSTICE served and the crooks incarcerated in REGULAR JAIL. Why pay top dollar, when they stole so much three times for God's sake, and a slap on the wrist, has been the answer, like most rich parents do their overly dangerous children. I understand LOVE of a child, but the best way to love them is to train them up right to be socialble to society. This Greedamania over the last 2 decades, has lead to treasonous representatives like NEWT Ginrich, who aids Iran on nukes on one hand, and talks about future wars with Iran the next, is only the tip of the iceberg of evil.
    Cold heartless inhuman droids of destruction, are all over "the Wall St" institutions, not MAIN ST. We cancirculate labor and skill without the banks, if need be.
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    I have heard this before about Alex. Then why does he continue to awaken the sleeping? He shreds the MSM daily. He works hard and is passionate. I do not buy this story he is a strafor double agent. This argument really when you look at doesn't make sense he exposes the UN and adgenda 21, big pharma and big Agra Four main things the NWO wants. He, also exposes chem-trails and had on Icke. I think that this is a bunch of hooey. Devide and conquer comes to mind.
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    PrisonPlanet is just another information source.
    All information sources are biased and with agenda.
    Never the less they have value.
    I read Aljazeera news as well. Despite their bias.
    I try to read news from several sources and compare notes.
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Quote Posted by Endity (here)
    I have a hard time believing a system so controlled by the cabal would allow a man like this to roam free. Its apparently self destructive to the cabal if hes on the air, but also if he works for them is self destructive to them. So it seems either way the cabal or whoever is not as smart as we think I guess.
    I guess so, too. It's not that his way has been perfectly smooth with no obstacles. His show would long have been the biggest sensation on YouTube, if they didn't manipulate the counter of his videos, I guess. Stops at 300 and then some at most.

    The cabal is not the only group, that has a say in who lives and who dies. Alex is protected, as are many others who put themselves on the line. They are protected because by their deeds they prove they deserve it. For example if you have a look at Jordan Maxwell's first interview with Camelot, at one point he says he was in a restaurant one day and a voice just told him to run and apparently there were people there to get him and he managed to escape.

    The jig is up for the cabal anyways, the genie is out of the bottle. If they'd kill Alex, there'd be myriads of his followers continuing his work, multiplying the force of this movement.

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    It's time to man up folks, no one is coming to our rescue.
    To be honest if you don't look at all the facts on both sides you are not actually capable of having a clear opinion on the subject.
    I agree with both of you. No one is coming to save us doesn't mean no one out there supports our cause. I think we're already getting help, but as has been pointed out rightly over and over again, it's a no brainer, that it's not appropriate, to put all our hope in others that might come and help, that's a recipe for desaster. Folks from here or from elsewhere would abuse us, just like in the past, and rightly so. Humanity becoming self-determined is the most crucial issue in this whole cosmic drama. To work together with our greater family is our destiny eventually, I find.

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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Quote If they'd kill Alex, there'd be myriads of his followers continuing his work, multiplying the force of this movement.
    That's exactly the answer that Alex gives himself. Listen to the third hour of radio of Monday 9th of April. He replies to a caller about this.

    Edit: I found it on youtube, start watching at 12:22, here we go:



    I agree with the youtube video counts... it sticks around 300-301-302 views on most of his videos... that is not normal.

    Alex is not disinfo, he speaks with his heart, and reports everything that is already in mainstream media. I do not understand why there is a destruction campaign going on against him, particularly here, on PA...
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Quote Posted by Kerrigan (here)
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    Alex is not disinfo, he speaks with his heart, and reports everything that is already in mainstream media. I do not understand why there is a destruction campaign going on against him, particularly here, on PA...
    It should be obvious, Kerrigan.

    Look at the statistics of the OP, DreamsInDigital. She joined in December, just a few months ago, and already has 1,254 comments.

    DreamsInDigital is only intrested in her post-count total. She doesn't give a sh*t about the quality of her posts, nor does she care who's reputation she is destroying with her threads. Her only purpose on the forum is to accumulate post-counts, and, most likely, as a disinformation specialists.

    Just what is a, "LF Strategies Specialist", anyway?

    Just my humble opinion....
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    I don't like Alex's style, and do find the way it comes across, at least to me as fear mongering.

    That said, I can't see him being a double or disinfo agent.

    As a side note, can we keep the bitching and poo flinging at members to a minimim? We are all one community of intelligent people looking for the same answers. How about we show a little respect?

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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Here's how the Elite take people out:

    Support them to get them in the public eye, fund them - make them rely on you for the money to do the work, give them gifts (keep your friends close and enemies closer), pretend to be on your side.

    Then one of two things: if what they want to get rid of is an invention or something, fund an "opponent", then pull the $$$ plug on the legit guy, bankrupt him, and support the opponent in MSM to deface the legit guy; or, if the issue is information, just show everyone that he's "working for the enemy" and call him a disinfo agent.

    I'm not saying that is what happened with AJ. I am saying that this method is sooo easy and common to pull off for the elite.

    BTW I never really understood all his extreme anti gay rhetoric -- he seemed to be catering to the "Christian" South in the sense of this and the general acceptance from Christians about end times "drama".

    Other than that, he's done some pretty interesting and noble things ...
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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
    In 1998, Jones organized a successful effort to build a new Branch Davidian church as a memorial to those who died during the 1993 fire that ended the government's siege of the original Branch Davidian complex near Waco, Texas. He often featured the project on his Public-access television program and claimed that Koresh and his followers were peaceful people who were murdered by Attorney General Janet Reno and the ATF during the siege

    The Branch Davidians (also known as "The Branch") are a Protestant sect that originated in 1955 from a schism in the Davidian Seventh Day Adventists ("Davidians"), a reform movement that began within the Seventh-day Adventist Church ("Adventists") around 1930. The majority of those who accepted the reform message have been disfellowshipped due to the Adventist church rejecting it. The Branch Davidians have many theological beliefs in common with Messianic Judaism.



    From its inception in 1930, the reform movement inherited Adventism's apocalypticism, in that they believed themselves to be living in a time when Bible prophecies of a final divine judgment were coming to pass as a prelude to Christ's second coming. The name "Branch Davidian" is most widely known for the Waco Siege of 1993 on their property (known as the Mount Carmel Center) near Waco, Texas, by the ATF, FBI, and Texas National Guard, which resulted in the deaths of their leader, David Koresh, as well as 82 other Branch Davidians and four ATF agents.

    David Koresh (August 17, 1959 – April 19, 1993), born Vernon Wayne Howell, was the leader of a Branch Davidian religious sect, believing himself to be its final prophet. Howell legally changed his name to David Koresh on May 15, 1990. A 1993 raid by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the subsequent siege by the FBI ended with the burning of the Branch Davidian ranch outside of Waco, Texas, in McLennan County. Koresh, 54 other adults and 21 children were found dead after the fire.

    In 1983 he began claiming the gift of prophecy. It is speculated[by whom?] that Koresh had a sexual relationship with Lois Roden, the prophetess and leader of the sect who was then 76 years old, eventually claiming that God had chosen him to father a child with her, who would be the Chosen One.[1] In 1983, Roden allowed Koresh to begin teaching his own message which caused controversy in the group. Lois Roden's son George Roden intended to be the group's next leader and considered Koresh an interloper. When Koresh announced that God had instructed him to marry Rachel Jones (who then added Koresh to her name), there was a short period of calm at Mount Carmel, but it proved only temporary. In the ensuing power struggle, George Roden, claiming to have the support of the majority of the group, forced Koresh and his group off the property at gunpoint. Disturbed by the events and the move away from the philosophy of the community's founders, a further splinter group led by Charles Joseph Pace moved out of Mount Carmel and set up home in Gadsden, Alabama.
    In 1985 Koresh and around 25 followers set up camp at Palestine, Texas, 90 miles from Waco, where they lived under rough conditions in buses and tents for the next two years, during which time Koresh undertook recruitment of new followers in California, the United Kingdom, Israel and Australia. That same year Koresh traveled to Israel where he claimed he had a vision that he was the modern day Cyrus. The founder of the Davidian movement, Victor Houteff, wanted to be God's implement and establish the Davidic kingdom in Palestine. Koresh also wanted to be God's tool and set up the Davidic kingdom in Jerusalem. At least until 1990, he believed the place of his martyrdom might be in Israel, but by 1991 he was convinced that his martyrdom would be in the United States. Instead of Israel, he said the prophecies of Daniel would be fulfilled in Waco and that the Mount Carmel Center was the Davidic kingdom.[3]
    After being exiled to the Palestine, Texas camp, Koresh and his followers eked out a primitive existence. When Lois Roden died in 1986, the exiled Davidians wondered if they would ever be able to return to Mount Carmel. But despite the displacement, "Koresh now enjoyed the loyalty of the majority of the [Davidian] community."[4]
    By late 1987, George Roden's support was severely withering. To regain it, he challenged Koresh to a contest to raise the dead, going so far as to exhume a corpse to demonstrate his spiritual supremacy. Koresh went to authorities to file charges against Roden for illegally exhuming a corpse, but was told he would have to show proof (such as a photograph of the corpse). Koresh seized the opportunity to seek criminal prosecution of Roden by returning to Mount Carmel with seven armed followers attempting to get photographic proof of the crime. Koresh's group was discovered by Roden and a gunfight broke out. When the sheriff arrived, Roden had already suffered a minor gunshot wound and was pinned down behind a tree. As a result of the incident, Koresh and his followers were charged with attempted murder. At the trial, Koresh explained that he went to Mount Carmel to uncover evidence of criminal disturbance of a corpse by Roden. Koresh's followers were acquitted, and in Koresh's case a mistrial was declared.
    In 1989 Roden murdered Wayman Dale Adair with an axe blow to the skull after Adair stated his belief that he (Adair) was the true Messiah.[5] Roden was convicted of murder and imprisoned in a mental hospital at Vernon, Texas. Since Roden owed thousands of dollars in unpaid taxes on Mount Carmel, Koresh and his followers were able to raise the money and reclaim the property. Roden continued to harass the Koresh faction by filing legal papers while imprisoned. When Koresh and his followers reclaimed Mt. Carmel, they discovered that tenants who had rented from Roden had left behind a methamphetamine laboratory, which Koresh reported to the local police department and asked to have removed.

    Accusations of child abuse and statutory rape

    The child abuse and sexual abuse claims have been widely circulated in the press coverage though it is often difficult to separate the purported claims from the evidence.[11] Koresh's doctrine of the House of David[12] did lead to spiritual marriages with both married and single women in the group and with at least one underage girl. The underage girl was Michelle Jones, the younger sister of Koresh's legal wife Rachel and the daughter of life-long Davidians Perry and Mary Belle Jones. Koresh took Michelle as a spiritual wife when she was thirteen, evidently with the consent of the Joneses. This means Koresh was in violation of state law and could have been prosecuted for statutory rape in Texas. A six-month investigation of child abuse allegations by the Texas Child Protection Services in 1992 failed to turn up any evidence likely because the Davidians concealed the spiritual marriage of Koresh to Michelle Jones, assigning a surrogate husband (David Thibodeau), to the girl for the sake of appearances. [13] A second allegation involved an underage girl, Kiri Jewell, who testified in the Congressional hearings on Waco in 1995. She claimed Koresh engaged in improper sexual touching and other behaviors that would have brought sexual assault charges against him. There is no independent confirmation of this incident, however, Kiri's family was split over whether they believed her story.
    Regarding the allegations of child abuse, the evidence is less compelling. In one widely reported incident, ex-members claimed that Koresh became irritated with the cries of his son Cyrus and spanked the child severely for several minutes on three consecutive visits to the child's bedroom. In a second report, Koresh was said to have beaten the eight-month old daughter of another member for approximately forty minutes until the girl's bottom bled. In a third incident, a man involved in a custody battle visited Mt. Carmel and claimed to have seen the beating of a young boy with a stick. [14] Finally, the FBI's justification for forcing an end to the 51 day standoff was predicated on the charge that Koresh was abusing children inside Mount Carmel. In hours following the deadly conflagration, Attorney General Janet Reno told reporters that "We had specific information that babies were being beaten." [15] But FBI Director William Sessions publicly denied the charge and told reporters that they had no such information about child abuse inside the Mount Carmel. [16] A careful examination of the other child abuse charges found the evidence to be weak and ambiguous, casting doubt on the allegations. [17]
    The allegations of child abuse stem largely from detractors and ex-members. [18] The 1993 U.S. Department of Justice report cites allegations of child sexual and physical abuse. But despite the merits of the charges, legal scholars point out that the ATF had no legal jurisdiction in the matter of child protection and it appears that these accounts were inserted by the ATF to inflame the case against Koresh. For example, the account of former Branch Davidian Jeannine Bunds is reproduced in the affidavit. She claimed that Koresh had fathered at least fifteen children with various women and that she had personally delivered seven of these children. Bunds also claims that Koresh would annul all marriages of couples who joined the group, had exclusive sexual access to the women, and would also have regular sexual relations with young girls,[19] though some of these charges are clearly exaggerated. [20] There is no question that Koresh had multiple children by different women in the group. His House of David doctrine based on a purported revelation involved the reproduction of 24 children by chosen women in the community. These 24 children were to serve as the ruling elders over the millennium after the return of Christ. In his book, James Tabor states that Koresh acknowledged on a videotape sent out of the compound during the standoff that he had fathered more than 12 children by several "wives."[21] On March 3, 1993, during negotiations to secure the release of the remaining children, Koresh advised the Negotiation Team that: "My children are different than those others," referring to his direct lineage versus those children previously released.
    At the time, in Texas, the age of parental consent for a minor to marry was 14, as was the age for consent to engage in sexual relations.[citation needed] In the documentary film, Waco: The Rules of Engagement (long version), Jack Harwell, Sheriff of McLennan County, stated: "You have to have proof to go into court . . . Keep in mind, too, that most of the girls who were involved were at least 14 years old and 14 year olds get married with parental consent. So if their parents were there and letting things happen in the way of sexual activities and what have you with their 14 year old kids, you have common law husbands and wives. Uh, I don’t say that I agree with that and that I approve of it. But at the same time, if parents are there and they’re giving parental consent, we have a problem with that in making a case.

    The Mount Carmel raid and the 1992 Ruby Ridge incident were cited by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols as motivations for the Oklahoma City bombing. This terrorist act was carried out on April 19, 1995 -- timed to coincide with the second anniversary of the Waco assault.

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    I don't like Alex's style, and do find the way it comes across, at least to me as fear mongering.

    That said, I can't see him being a double or disinfo agent.

    As a side note, can we keep the bitching and poo flinging at members to a minimim? We are all one community of intelligent people looking for the same answers. How about we show a little respect?

    PVM
    Are you kidding? I love his style. I'm sick of the talking heads always smiling when they deliver news no matter how bad the spin is. Alex's attitude is about shoving his foot up someone's ass. I applaud and say it refreshing to open a can of whipass.

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    Hardly exposed...

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    I don't put a lot of faith in Wikipedia; take it all with a grain of salt ...
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Exposed Disinfo/Strafor Double Agent Alex Jones cancels Speaking Tour.

    Quote Posted by Kerrigan (here)
    Quote If they'd kill Alex, there'd be myriads of his followers continuing his work, multiplying the force of this movement.
    That's exactly the answer that Alex gives himself. Listen to the third hour of radio of Monday 9th of April. He replies to a caller about this.

    Edit: I found it on youtube, start watching at 12:22, here we go:



    I agree with the youtube video counts... it sticks around 300-301-302 views on most of his videos... that is not normal.

    Alex is not disinfo, he speaks with his heart, and reports everything that is already in mainstream media. I do not understand why there is a destruction campaign going on against him, particularly here, on PA...
    G'Day Kerrigan,

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    Quote Alex is not disinfo, he speaks with his heart, and reports everything that is already in mainstream media. I do not understand why there is a destruction campaign going on against him, particularly here, on PA...
    I Agree...

    You want to know 'Why' particularly here, on PA.....?

    Because most of these people would'nt know the 'Truth' even if they were 'Hit in the Head by a Sledge-Hammer' with it..!

    ...either that or they are just too precious...

    Rgs,

    Jack

    PS - This is a relatively 'Old' smear campaign, from both the 'Hit-Piece' article and Sean David Morton reading it out on 'Air' verbatim on his radio show...
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