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    Default The gut of most disease... NOT what you think!

    Quote Note: After using the methods espoused in this thread for 2 years I ended up finding out that it is not healthy in the long run. That is not to say that some healthy people might benefit from the info here.... but if you stay on this diet you will never be as healthy as you could/should be. If you are new here please look at my new thread here for up-to-date information: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...king-your-body
    I am on a fairly recent journey that involves re-remembering something about health that I had forgotten along the way. This has changed my health in dramatic and unexpected ways over a short period... and there will be more changes for me to come as I progress through this deep healing path.

    It turns out that most illnesses we see today such as...
    ~schizophrenia
    ~depression
    ~ADHD
    ~ADD
    ~Dyspraxia
    ~Dyslexia
    ~cancer
    ~autism
    ~autoimmune diseases of every type
    ~arthritus
    ~over weight as well as under weight
    ....All have a common root. Our gut flora and fauna has become sickened and pathological due to a combination of antibiotics, chlorinated water, GMOs, food processing, food additives, and a sugar filled diet. When these ‘wee little life forms’ which live within our gut are healthy they make all our vitamins for us, digest our foods while passing along nutrients we need for robust health, and defend us against pathogens. Without them... well, look around you, we all look ill.

    My personal learning curve on this began with the Rosedale diet, which eliminates all foods which digest as sugars. This was a good beginning, but without the rest of the information available through the work of D. Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD, it was not enough to change my life in the radical way I desired. A link to the first in her 6 part interview follows. ‘Gut and Psychology Sydrome (GAPS) by her is a must read if you or anyone in your family is facing health challenges  http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

    A link to the part I of her 6 part interview with Dr Mercola follows.


    link to part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0B-P...feature=relmfu

    link to part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjORw...feature=relmfu

    link to part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVLXI...feature=relmfu

    Link to part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej7fU...feature=relmfu

    Link to part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHe9m...feature=relmfu

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    Here is another link with a wealth of information presented in a very understandable way. This will give you an eduction about this subject in an easy to understand way:

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    OK.. so you’ve taken the time to listen to this... what’s next. Well I’ve jumped into this with both feet. There is such a big YES in my body and a knowing that this is right for me. Just this week I’ve started my own sauerkraut after watching the following video with Daniel Vitalis. He explains not only how to make it, but also why it is so important for your immune system and digestion.

    Part I:


    Part II
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjfvP...feature=relmfu

    After watching his video I looked in my local Craigslist and found someone selling a used sauerkraut crock and have my first batch already fermenting away. Here are some useful links to where you can obtain really great sauerkraut crocks for every budget: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...uerkraut+crock

    My crock is a ‘Harsch Gairtopf Fermenting Crock’ and I am very happy with the design. However I’ve also had success with an old fashioned open lid crock 40 years ago when I used to make sauerkraut as a young woman. Then I used cheese cloth over the fermenting kraut, followed by a heavy upside down plate about the size as the opening of my kraut crock. On top of this I placed 2 bricks which kept the fermenting cabbage below the brine down during the fermenting process. While this is a less expensive method, you must watch for, and clean off, any mold which forms (something which I won’t have to do with my new Harsh Crock)

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    I found an amazing book called 'Nourishing Traditions' by Sally Fallon. It goes into fermenting and such, and SO much more. It is 'The cookbook that challenges politically correct nutrition and the diet dictocrats'. It's really a fascinating book and I highly recommend it <3

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    It's a great book. I have it also. Love the little anecdotal stories in the margins!

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    I am totally with you Dawn. Go for it, take responsibility and empower your body.

    I just want to remind you of the next step.
    Once your body is strong enough to stand up, the next step is to cleanse the emotional traumas and debilitating behavior patterns . These trauma are the underlying cause to most of our physical ailments.
    If you look into ancient medicine practice, you will find always emotional clearing.
    So we want to clear the base reason for our ailments with forgiveness and acceptance to ourselves first. That requires courage and strength to face through our trauma and fears.

    Good luck, and power in your healing path.
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    Default Sorting the body out...

    Investigate getting some Kefir grains too. This is fermented milk.

    My wife being Russian ferments cabbage regularly and Daniel and Natasha have both been guests on oneradionetwork. Daniel had a 3 hour show recently which was pretty amazing... I listened to part of it in my FIR sauna (great for heavy metal and fluoride removal).

    ...and to get good gut health you need to have good bile flow from the liver for this you need to remove the blockages within it by liver flushing my thread I originally started on PA1 would be good. Andreas Moritz in his second hour of this show says cancer (and most other diseases) are caused by the liver being blocked. I can't recommend doing liver flushes enough... I've now done about 13

    If you combine all this with your own best medicine then you're on to a winner...

    I'm off to a talk in London today about health and healing modalities so will hopefully learn a few things more today.

    The most difficult thing is finding the time to do these things in the 'mad old paradigm world' we live in which if you have a meaningless job for 40 hrs a weeks takes up a lot of your time.
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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    Wonderful information. Remember the scientists and doctors from the 1930s to 1950s who touted good intestinal health as the answer? That most problems began in the colon? The Rockefeller funded and growing pharmaceutical ideas managed to squash that truth. Ridiculed and ruined by lies.

    Intestinal health is complex and understood by few, and maligned by most all. Great thread that needs to be fully embraced by all on the forum.

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    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-li...-autism-379991

    A mother claims she helped with her children's autism

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    I moved away from relying on commercial probiotics about 10 days ago. I've been making kefer since then using a starter culture from commercial organic goat kefer. I saved some of it and simply added it to a quart of raw milk. I like making kefer better than yogurt because there is no need to warm it or have a special warm place for it to ferment (like with yogurt). After 2-4 days on my kitchen counter it is done and ready to enjoy. However, there are no grains in the commercial kefer I am using so I have also ordered some kefer grains by mail which will arrive in the next 2-3 days. Using these is the traditional method.

    As I perused the internet about all of this. I read a lot about people who ferment their own 'ginger bug' and 'rejuvilac'. Today I am starting my personal ginger bug. I have my 1/2 gal mason jar squeaky clean and I'm going to add a few tablespoons of fresh grated ginger and then a couple of teaspoons of sugar. This is supposed to be about capturing a 'wild yeast' from the surrounding air and growing it in the sweetened ginger water. Each day I will add a little more fresh grated ginger and a bit more sugar to feed the 'ginger bug' ... within 5 or so days I should have a bubbly fermented tart tasting drink that will enrich my inner garden.

    I also am sprouting rye grains in a sprouting jar, after soaking them overnight. In 2-3 days I will have sprouted rye which I can chop coarsely and soak in water to make my own fermented Rejuvilac.

    Here's the thing I am focusing on... Diseases such as Autism, Depression and even Schizophrenia have been CURED totally this way. Who even knows what aspects of 'aging' in my body are actually a result of unhealthy flora and fauna. Now don't misunderstand, I have been eating organic for all my life. I have grown my own gardens for a large portion of my life. I have even taken commercial probiotics off and on for over 30 years. And I have done body cleanses of all types every year. I also was not eating sugar or most grains prior to beginning this process... Never-the-less, during the first 2 months of the Rosedale diet I suffered massive die off symptoms without understanding what they were. This way of eating along with natural probiotics is the most thorough cleanse I have ever experienced, with the exception of the time I spent as a breatharian.

    I am writing of my personal experience to let all of you know that this is not a 'surface' or 'light' cleanse and change I am speaking of here. Please don't lightly dismiss this information and believe you are free of the need for it. Or that you could not benefit from really looking carefully at it. If you are child bearing age (for men too), this information is critical. And if you have young children, this body of information is very important to them.

    In order to turn your health around there is approximately a 2 year protocol where your diet is very restricted. You are not hungry, but you are very limited as to what kind of food you put into your digestive system.

    When I was in my 50s skin tags discolorations appeared on my skin... these are starting to vanish.. about 75% of them are gone now. Also, my ankles more or less disappeared about 2 years ago at age 59 despite walking daily, bicycle riding and a healthy diet (so I thought). I put it up to the destruction of aging. However, my ankles have reappeared, and my feet are 'skinny' without any puffiness. My hair has increased in thickness and curliness so that I have a full head of naturally brown hair. (All the friends I have that are my age have sliver or even white hair already). I've lost a small amount of weight on this diet, just 10 pounds, and I wish it were more. My partner, who is a 59 year old man, has lost 25 pounds so far with this way of eating along with probiotics. But... the most important thing is that I am happy 99% of the time and all mood swings have stopped. So, as promised this diet evens out the emotions and hormonal system. And... I have only just begun. I still have 1.75 years to go on the recommended protocol to see full benefits.
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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    clay baths are supposed to be good for drawing out toxins
    http://www.eytonsearth.org/mercury-t...onite-clay.php
    http://www.eytonsearth.org/clay-baths.php

    My son has had Autism since birth, they say that is called classic autism and that is different to the other autism from toxins. The weird thing is though, because I have always known him as who he is with autism, I can't imagine him any other way.

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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    Thanks Dawn,

    Some months ago we read about this too and were excited about it, but I was heaving troubles with the sugar part.
    Just a week ago a started oil pulling thanks to a thread in this section and one of the things that happened is that I lost a tooth. My sweet tooth that is , so now may be a perfect time to start using this diet.
    We were about to start with making kefir also.


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    Never-the-less, during the first 2 months of the Rosedale diet I suffered massive die off symptoms without understanding what they were.
    Im sorry. Could you please explain what this means?
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    Default Re: The root of most disease... NOT what you think!

    Whne I heard a speech by Natasha a couple of weeks ago I looked
    at my intake of sugar. 8 big cups of coffee/ day 3 teaspoons of sugar
    in each= 24 teaspoons of sugar/ day. I stopped putting sugar in the
    coffee. After a couple of days I realized I didnt like coffee, it was all
    about the sugar. So I stopped drinking coffee. Now I drink tea without
    sugar. One step at a time. LOL


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    Quote Wakytweaky: Some months ago we read about this too and were excited about it, but I was having troubles with the sugar part.
    Just a week ago I started oil pulling, thanks to a thread in this section, and one of the things that happened is that I lost a tooth. My sweet tooth that is , so now may be a perfect time to start using this diet.
    We were about to start with making kefir also.

    Quote Quote Posted by Dawn (here) Never-the-less, during the first 2 months of the Rosedale diet I suffered massive die off symptoms without understanding what they were.
    Wakytweaky: Im sorry. Could you please explain what this means?
    Well, this is the unpleasant part of a cleansing process. As you build up a culture of life enhancing bacteria and stop eating food which feeds the pathogenic bacteria the 'bad guys' begin to die off. As they do this they have tactics which are designed to cause you to feed them their favorite foods, so you develop cravings. That is their first line of defense. When this does not work they manufacture poisons designed to kill off competing bacteria around them and you feel it as a poison. In my case I had all the symptoms of dysentary for 2 months and could not be away from the house or the plumbing facilities for more than 5 minutes at a time. This is a pretty strong die off reaction, most people will be unlikely to have something this severe. However common reactions are usually similar to flu like symptoms.

    Here's what Wiki says about this:
    Quote "The Herxheimer reaction (or Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction) resembles bacterial sepsis".
    Taking the time to educate yourself in this protocol is recommended before you just dive into it. It is usually best to go slowly, especially if you have not done a cleanse for a while.

    In my case, I had cancer a few years ago. I healed myself but have been dealing with some pretty aggressive pathogens ever since. I've just never felt 'right' since then. Going to live in Mexico twice and picking up local pathogens there did not help. I did every cleanse I had ever heard about or could find last year... with the result that I knew something really nasty was still in residence within my body. This diet along with home made probiotics is finally getting at the root of it.

    Quote Jorr: Whne I heard a speech by Natasha a couple of weeks ago I looked
    at my intake of sugar. 8 big cups of coffee/ day 3 teaspoons of sugar
    in each= 24 teaspoons of sugar/ day. I stopped putting sugar in the
    coffee. After a couple of days I realized I didnt like coffee, it was all
    about the sugar. So I stopped drinking coffee. Now I drink tea without
    sugar. One step at a time. LOL
    Hi Jorr, here's a trick I've been using that is really helpful. I learned that cinnamon totally gets rid of sugar cravings. It is even sold in capsule form for this use. I make a few cups of herbal teas which cinnamon in them (these are commercially available). These teas taste sweet and pleasant, and when I am done with a cup all my sugar desire is gone. Perhaps that will help you.

    Quote Note: I am updating this post nearly 2 years later because I've learned more about cinnamon since then. Please search out 'ceylon cinnamon' rather than the traditional type sold in most USA stores (cassia cinnamon). It can be identified by its very thin papery skin (if in stick form) or by a label that says the ingredients are 'ceylon cinnamon'. This is very IMPORTANT! Ceylon cinnamon is good for you... Cassia cinnamon is poisonous and is the most common type found at markets. Here is a link to learn more: http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/cho..._cinnamon.aspx
    However this diet is not just about sugar... it is about everything that digests as sugar. When you take the time to learn about this, you might be surprised that almost your entire diet is actually sugar. Even though I was not eating any actual sugar or corn syrup sweetened food, I now realize that my whole diet was digesting as sugar. My metabolism was based on sugar. Now my metabolism is based on burning good fats.
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    Quote Pugwash84: My son has had Autism since birth, they say that is called classic autism and that is different to the other autism from toxins. The weird thing is though, because I have always known him as who he is with autism, I can't imagine him any other way.
    I hope you are open to exploring this information. I don't believe your doctor is educated in the situation. The crux of the matter is that this is a doctor caused illness due to multi-generational use of antibiotics. That means it is due to your grandmother, your mother, and you having prescription antibiotics, (chlorinated water and factory-fresh food don't help either). Dads contribute too as they share their pelvic flora and fauna with their mates during intercourse. What do you have to loose by learning about this and trying it for your family?

    The book is a very good read, and you will be amazed at the information supplied in just the first 20 pages.

    As I look back at my life I realize that many of my current health problems stem directly from things doctors have prescribed or done to me and things dentists have done to my mouth. Actually, the entire medical field is based on the idea that we need to kill, sterilize, and obliterate pathogens. After 80 years of antibiotics and vaccinations just look at how sick almost everyone is. And autism has gone from 1 child in 1,100 to 1 child in 55. Something is seriously wrong. It appears Dr Campbell-McBride has nailed the problem and has a very thorough understanding of it. Her protocol has cured many autistic children, not just her son.
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    Thanks so much for the explanation Dawn,

    I'm really excited about it and I think I will make the shift slowly haha. I'm not a big fan of making sprints to the toilet

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    While I fully agree that our western processed, poisoned (fluoride and chlorine -- both apparently negatively affect the endocrine system) foods are compromising our health in a myriad of ways, I always look from the highest step - down, which would mean our consciousness defines our health (choosing healthy foods from love rather than fear is a result of consciousness).

    The metaphysical aside, I have to say there is chlorine in almost ALL our foods. I have an extreme sensitivity to chlorine (a recent development), where I can taste it in almost every food I eat. I taste it in fresh vegetables (cleaned in bleachwater to rid "germs"), I taste it in potato chips (Pure chlorine is used to very quickly clean equipment between batches for most food manufacturers), I taste it in my beer (same - used for fast cleaning equipment between batches - plus since Fluoride has been coming out of cities water, it is now added to alcoholic beverages, and the latest from the controlled celebrities song lyrics = "Drink you face off and party!"-paraphrased but it is everywhere, in 50% of the current pop songs), And of course I taste it in my city water (if you pour water into a container, stir or shake vigorously for 5 minutes to evaporate most of the chlorine - the refrigerate), etc.

    Don't even get me started on MSG ... I've noticed that since governments are putting a bit of pressure on food producers to reduce salt, that the salt comes out but MSG goes in to replace it -- it offers more fake flavour enhancement for the sodium buck (which needs to be labelled), so now there's more of it than ever.

    All comes down to eating local fresh foods, and growing what you can yourself ... keep it local, keep it organic. If everyone loses their "drugs" (pharma, not recreational), their dependance on "Grid" electricity, and eats local, natural and organic, then congratulations, at this point you have basically stopped giving the elite your hard earned cash which they use only to try to control you and the world with. This is King Anthony's answer to the elite, no matter how hard he denies it -- it is the ONLY way, plus those participating get proper freedom again, which is basically no dependence on "Them" ;-)

    I skimmed over a few posts where autism was being discussed. There is a natural amino peptide called L-Carnosine that has shown some promise in helping people with autism cope more normally. It may be worth looking into.

    Most people do not realize that the human body has more bacteria than human cells in it - not because we are diseased, but because our body harvests them for all sorts of purposes -- messing up the balance or allowing a less desirable to take control is certainly not good for your overall health.
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    I know of people who have used this to treat thier child of autism and while it took a few months they swear by the GAPS method. Thanks for bringing this to my attention again Dawn.

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    I've just been in London today listening to this talk...

    http://amazinghealthtalks.com/

    Quite informative and there were a couple of things which I think looked worth investing in (one was £6k though :-/ ) ... bought some propper dried sea salt and some bee pollen too rather easier to budget for...
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    Dawn, I'm all ears.

    A new book (new to me) Victoria Boutenko's Green for Life has been my latest attempt to gain a new level of health. Somewhere along the line, I developed a war in my intestines that has lasted for about 18 years. It is possible that t started from a round of very powerful antibiotics that I took, to kill a (presumed) mycoplasma pneumonia-like infection that kicked my ass for over 6 weeks. I have had antibiotics only twice in the last 2 decades. Once was as mentioned, and a decade later, after a lot of research, I allowed myself to take a round of antibiotics (Rifaximin) that were supposed to kill-off the intestinal flora overgrowth, and allow me to start fresh with new intestinal flora. It didn't work. (I still have "IBS-D" symptoms.)

    More later. Gotta run (pun intended.)

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