You are in God.

[markpierre]

Hello friends.

I need to address something in myself that keeps me a little frustrated, and I think it's an unworthy need to be invisible as much as I can.
I haven't offered a lot, other than an occasional smartass remark or something useful if I know that I know what I'm saying. And a little confrontation maybe because I get some verifying little thrill from it.

But I need to offer you this, because you're my companions. The people in this little virtual world are a big part of my association with the outer world, and this experience in time for me.

When I'm looking at all the ideas that are offered about this year, and the 'possibilities' that people like to entertain, I feel a little numb. At first I was a little stirred and then a little frightened, angry, then stirred, and mostly confused. It is numbing. No one can discern the truth from any of it because there is no truth in it.

I can get in my car and drive to town, and I can tell someone later that 'I drove to town', and that seems like 'a truth'.
'Why' I drove to town is more to the truth of it.
Why is this all occurring? I don't care what it is that's occurring.

This is what I know, because this is what's happening to me.
More and more, I'm willing to engage the truth about me. What I know most certainly and what I'm most afraid of, is what I am, because it's totally different than my experience as a mind remote-controling a body around in space/time. Now I'm experiencing the incredible tension of a mind in a body stretching into the infinite.

The mind doesn't agree that it's okay to do that. It has a warehouse of fear that it throws up to distract that from occurring.

It's occurring anyway.

It's not fun. It's painful, even devestating a lot of the time.
Fear is the only obstacle. And it's not real in any sense.
But it's there, sometimes hidden. Don't misinterpret this; It's there in you too.

I squirm and complain, but I am in God. There is no other place. The world is not an entity separate from us, and we're not a virus that needs to be mutated so we don't kill her.
That's crazy. Insane. It's a movie screen.
The world, like everything on it and around it and that supports it is here for our benefit. The universe is an effect of your own consciousness. That's how big you are.
Ya...that is scary.

So I need to give you this because it's so evident to me, and not quite so to everyone.
Evidence of it doesn't change it. You are in God.

If you're worried, if you're excited, if you're confused or tired. You are in God. No matter what it seems is happening, no matter what you feel, what you know or think you know, what you fear the most, you are in God.
What you do, what you don't do.
Don't give me nonsense about what you think God is. I don't care, don't tell me.

There is only one root to every fear; that you're not safe. That you are not in God.
You can't be anything other than totally perfectly safe.
If it's your time, it's your time. If it isn't, there is a time. It doesn't matter.

Here is a warning; that when there's a bullet coming at you, it isn't the 'higher' mind that compels you to duck. Yet you'll choose 'don't get hit by the bullet' before you question why, or who is deciding.
You'll reason, 'well it's because I'm a body', or 'I have a body'.
It's entirely possible to mistake a portal for a bullet. You need to train your mind to allow, rather than interpret.
'Trust' is another term you can use. Work on it.
Don't do anything dumb like try to breath water, but try not adjusting from discomfort. That's easy and harmless.

So the scientists should like that, the Christians (maybe), ET guys, conspiracy guys, freedom guys, the seekers, etc. I love you all. You keep me going. We're all in God. You don't have to figure anything out.
Just love as much as you possibly can and especially allow yourself to be loved
and be safe. That's the core of the problem.

That's my effort for today. Thanks.

[Beren]

Thank you for this post.
It says about the thing that many across the history are trying to portrait to the 3D system of filters of understanding.
When we shut down the filters ,we see and are .
Never before.

[Eram]

Thanks markpierre,

I feel inspired and moved bye this post!

[REILLY]

Just relax, dude. Things will take care of themselves, they always have. When it's spring, you don't have to tell the flower to bloom.

[markpierre]

Relax? I think that's what I said. Things don't take care of themselves, they're taken care of as you take care of yourself. Even if it looks like Armageddon. Read dude. Don't interpret.

[Rogerc]

Hell Mark, just what did you see through that periscope?

You are in God - thats interesting because I have had some really weird experiences in life.

I've been shot down,ambushed and had engine failures as a helicopter pilot - I've survived.

However I thought it was just because I was a great pilot - how freaking egotistical is that?

What I experienced was a slow motion in these events and I have realised that the part of our brain that we don't know is there kicks into action and I believe that it's the part of God that we are which influences outcomes.

It's really hard to put into a post.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that in all of us there is a part of God or conversely God is in all of us - so ultimately don't worry.

I may have stuffed this up but thanks for you're understanding and advice in other posts.

Peace rogerc

[jorr lundstrom]

LOL I trust in this. God is taking care of God. Everything included.


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[markpierre]

Posted by Rogerc (here)
Hell Mark, just what did you see through that pericope?

You are in God - thats interesting because I have had some really weird experiences in life.

I've been shot down,ambushed and had engine failures as a helicopter pilot - I've survived.

However I thought it was just because i was a great pilot - how freaking egotistical is that?

What I experienced was a slow motion in these events and I have realised that the part of our brain that we don't know is there kicks into action and I believe that it's the part of God that we are which influences outcomes.

It's really hard to put into a post.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that in all of us there is a part of God or conversely God is in all of us - so ultimately don't worry.

I may have stuffed this up but thanks for you're understanding and advice in other posts.

Peace rogerc

Thanks Roger. That was a cool post, but ya, it's a little misunderstood. It's the love and sharing that makes this group necessary, and it's the difficulty in expressing difficult things, that makes it difficult to contribute fully.
This isn't a worry thread. This is real. Transformation feels the way it feels. Mostly it's grueling, and the verification for it is nominal. The world can't acknowledge it, and the system is undone by it. The system at the moment is
crucial to functioning as we function now. We all know that we have no real contingency, we're just trusting that it will all sort out. Well it will. Not without some teeth gnashing. Not someone else's teeth gnashing.
And it's also mentioned here and there, that some people will get it and some people won't.

Every tradition alludes to a razors edge. We all individually have to stop looking outside of ourselves for solution and salvation.
It's very possible for each mind to meet that moment , and instinctively recoil.

Are you free and certain enough to jump off of the cliff? Or determined enough? You don't have to be perfectly certain or perfectly free, but you make a decision and it has to be understood beforehand that it's up to you.
And we can say that it's you who also designed the course according to the goal, but the human ego which is what keeps self identity identified with physicality, is not in on the plan. It's pure resistance.
Transformation to the ego is death. All of human history, and the acceleration of it in this time period, is human ego in diffidence to fact. We are IN God.
Yes God is experiential. but f you really knew it or believed it, you couldn't have a problem. If you want to know what it is that you really believe look around. What you see is what you believe.
The world is an effect, not a cause. Effect of what? A defective God?
No. An effect of the mind that you're using right now.
How's it going? Are you in God?
If that's so, there can't be a problem.

You couldn't worry, you couldn't entertain fear as a real influence. The bulk of the threads in the forum and replies are fear, expressed as subtly as 'these issues are real, and we're autonomous beings contending with them'.
We agree, and place our faith in an agreement. We 'agree' we're not separate? Who's there to agree with?

That's not it. That's not how it's going to happen. It doesn't happen anywhere except in you. It doesn't happen according to agreements with things that seem to be someone else..
We are in God. If you don't experience that, or trust that more than you trust your senses, you have a confrontation to meet. That's all the fear of all of human experience, tucked in amongst and directing your cells as that body that you identify as yourself.
You survived as a body to meet this moment. You were never in danger because this was the plan. But you couldn't have known that at the time. You met and overcame a lot of fear.
That was to assist you now. There's more fear to meet, but as you've discovered in retrospect, it isn't real.
That was the real You Roger, showing yourself your own human thinking. You can think you can die, but you can't.

A shift in paradigm is sudden, and a change from everything you know. Look at how much you depend on everything as it seems now.
Lot was instructed not to look back. That's just an allegory, but the allegories are many. What sorts of attachments would cause you to look back? It needs to be considered before the fact.
Some amongst us have spent hundreds of consecutive lifetimes doing nothing but that.

We're getting a lot of instructions and advice tossed at us. The the most effective way to not follow instructions is to agree with them, and pretend to follow them.

[another bob]

The Chain of Pretending


First we pretend that we exist as separate and enduring persons.

Then we pretend there are others who are going about and performing the same trick.

Then we pretend that we suffer some sort of separation between our pretend self and those imaginary others.

Then we pretend that we can find a way to relieve ourselves of our pretentious suffering.

If we happen to be very imaginative, we pretend that we have found such a path, a method, and then we go about enthusiastically proclaiming our religion to all of our fictional playmates.

We may even pretend that we are just the one to help alleviate their imaginary disease, pretending to be some philosopher, preacher, sage or priest.

It's fun to pretend.

Many take this seriously, or at least pretend to –
after all, it's fun to pretend!

That's why He pretends – Mister Satchitananda Himself.

Mr. Supreme Reality.

We say “He”, but that’s just pretending too.

He pretends to be us.

He pretends to forget He is just pretending.

Then He searches for Himself to find and remind Himself that He’s just been pretending.

He is so funny, and He just loves this game!

When He finally gets tired and takes a long nap, everything disappears.

Then there is nothing, the same state in which we now exist, but without the humorless baggage of our personal pretense.

No wonder it’s called “The Divine Comedy”!

[Avocadess]

I'm not so certain that trying to breathe water is totally dumb. Someone very close to me did that for several breaths and did not even have to spit out water. I was there. However, it was a very special day. Another-dimensional kind of mystical day...and not something I would recommend. If it is the right time and thing for you to do, you will KNOW it...!!!

[markpierre]

Posted by another bob (here)
The Chain of Pretending


First we pretend that we exist as separate and enduring persons.

Then we pretend there are others who are going about and performing the same trick.

Then we pretend that we suffer some sort of separation between our pretend self and those imaginary others.

Then we pretend that we can find a way to relieve ourselves of our pretentious suffering.

If we happen to be very imaginative, we pretend that we have found such a path, a method, and then we go about enthusiastically proclaiming our religion to all of our fictional playmates.

We may even pretend that we are just the one to help alleviate their imaginary disease, pretending to be some philosopher, preacher, sage or priest.

It's fun to pretend.

Many take this seriously, or at least pretend to –
after all, it's fun to pretend!

That's why He pretends – Mister Satchitananda Himself.

Mr. Supreme Reality.

We say “He”, but that’s just pretending too.

He pretends to be us.

He pretends to forget He is just pretending.

Then He searches for Himself to find and remind Himself that He’s just been pretending.

He is so funny, and He just loves this game!

When He finally gets tired and takes a long nap, everything disappears.

Then there is nothing, the same state in which we now exist, but without the humorless baggage of our personal pretense.

No wonder it’s called “The Divine Comedy”!

Hey Bob, I love that transcendence stuff. I only wonder how to make it understandable. It never is.
It's great if you can hang out with the 20 or 30 guys on the planet right now who actually know what it means. Everyone else has to keep coming back and working with the thing they're trying to transcend.

[another bob]

Posted by markpierre (here)
Hey Bob, I love that transcendence stuff. I only wonder how to make it understandable. It never is.
It's great if you can hang out with the 20 or 30 guys on the planet right now who actually know what it means. Everyone else has to keep coming back and working with the thing they're trying to transcend.

Heya Mark!

You may be underestimating folks' ability to recognize the fact that they are not necessarily who they're pretending to be, if pointed out without judgment, condecension, or conceit. From there, it's not that difficult to mutually inquire a bit further. I've worked much of my life with the so-called salt of the earth, and you'd be surprised at the innate capacity of most people to intuit the way of things, perhaps with a little pointer here and there.

[jorr lundstrom]

The one who took me here will have to take me home again.

Rumi

If here is anything left to take anywhere.( where that now is) LOL

Jorr





All is well


Jorr 2.0

[REILLY]

Sometimes the surest way to hit something is to stop trying to hit it.

[markpierre]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by markpierre (here)
Hey Bob, I love that transcendence stuff. I only wonder how to make it understandable. It never is.
It's great if you can hang out with the 20 or 30 guys on the planet right now who actually know what it means. Everyone else has to keep coming back and working with the thing they're trying to transcend.

Heya Mark!

You may be underestimating folks' ability to recognize the fact that they are not necessarily who they're pretending to be, if pointed out without judgment, condecension, or conceit. From there, it's not that difficult to mutually inquire a bit further. I've worked much of my life with the so-called salt of the earth, and you'd be surprised at the innate capacity of most people to intuit the way of things, perhaps with a little pointer here and there.

Ya maybe. I should get out more eh?

[jorr lundstrom]

Having crossed the river,
where will you go, O friend ?

There's no road to tread,
No traveler ahead,
Neither a beginning, nor an end.

There's no water, no boat, no boatman, no cord;
No earth is there, no sky, no time, no bank, no ford.

You have forgotten the Self within,
Your search in the void will be in vain;
In a moment the life will ebb
And in this body you won't remain.

Be ever conscious of this, O friend,
You've to immerse within your Self;
Kabir says, salvation you won't then need,
For what you are, you would be indeed.

Kabir





All is well


Jorr 2.0

[another bob]

Posted by markpierre (here)
I should get out more eh?

ya never know what you may find . . .

[Mystique]

This is interesting as I was just writing to myself about this very thing. Took a break, went online, and found this thread. Synchronistic.

To untangle the knottiness (naughtiness) of the way the labyrinth of my mind has trapped me into thinking, and then believing, that I am disconnected from the Source of Myself, I came up with this way to logically lay it out:

Q: Is there a Source of All that Is?
A: Yes. All that Is cannot create Itself, from "nothing."
So, there must be a Source that All that Is is being created from.
The Source of All that Is cannot create All that Is from "nothing."
If a thing can be referred to, it exists.
If it does not exist, it cannot be referenced.
Therefore, there is no such thing as "nothing."

If this is hard to get your mind to wrap around, try to imagine what "no thing" looks like.

If there is nothing outside of Source for It to create from,
then it creates from It, using It to create from.
Therefore, whatever It is, is It and as well Its' creations.

If all of the above is true, then as Its' creations, we are made of It, as the stuff It is made of - with no separation.
It also implies that if that is true for our Source, it is also true for Us and our creations.

[markpierre]

Posted by Mystique (here)
This is interesting as I was just writing to myself about this very thing. Took a break, went online, and found this thread. Synchronistic.

To untangle the knottiness (naughtiness) of the way the labyrinth of my mind has trapped me into thinking, and then believing, that I am disconnected from the Source of Myself, I came up with this way to logically lay it out:

Q: Is there a Source of All that Is?
A: Yes. All that Is cannot create Itself, from "nothing."
So, there must be a Source that All that Is is being created from.
The Source of All that Is cannot create All that Is from "nothing."
If a thing can be referred to, it exists.
If it does not exist, it cannot be referenced.
Therefore, there is no such thing as "nothing."

If this is hard to get your mind to wrap around, try to imagine what "no thing" looks like.

If there is nothing outside of Source for It to create from,
then it creates from It, using It to create from.
Therefore, whatever It is, is It and as well Its' creations.

If all of the above is true, then as Its' creations, we are made of It, as the stuff It is made of - with no separation.
It also implies that if that is true for our Source, it is also true for Us and our creations.

It implies. That's not good enough.

[another bob]

Posted by markpierre (here)
It implies. That's not good enough.

Well, maybe it's a good start. After Thomas Aquinas had written the Summa Theologica, the epitome of logical theology for his time, he was in his chapel one morning when the real deal knocked him for a loop. He remarked later that, after the chapel experience, everything he had thought and written before was so now realized to be just so much rubbish.