Rudeness and lack of curiosity in people is mind blowing.

[christian]

Posted by Forevernyt (here)
Hell, if someone said that Yuri was not the first person to orbit the earth and I was given some clues on where to look, I would have spent the rest of my day LEARNING something new.

I thought it was pretty rude of this guy to try to shut me up. If you don’t want to believe an alternate piece of information or history, that’s your prerogative. There are nicer ways to speak to people.

Sometimes, I just wish something would happen finally, out in the open so I can say SEE! I TOLD YOU!

Hi Forevernyt, I can relate to your post in two ways. I have encountered the same issue, when I talked to other people, but I also was one of those others. I was genuinely concerned about the state of the world and human affairs, but considered any talks about stuff going on in space or in our distant past to be a distraction from current affairs, where I believed we should focus on to get things right.

It's the same old story, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. We've got to be gentle with each other and practice forgiveness when other people are rude to us. But this forgiving attitude does not mean being meek, we can stand our ground and be assertive without being aggressive or condescending.

Rather than this "I told you so" moment I hope there will be more "see how you can do it" moments.

[Amzer Zo]

How it works... the mechanics behind the programming of a planet:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
To give some reality on how a programmed individual keeps on going with the program whether the latter is implemented on one out-of-body as in "The Programming of A Planet" (abductions or `in-between lives') or through an upbringing within a particular culture or tradition, here is an example of a mom who tried to talk some sense into her son who is still caught up into what has become a cult:

Sadly, the last time we saw our son who is still in the S.O.*, I pointed out the outpoint of "Super Power"* to him. He could not respond other than to repeat how the building needs to be finished first and the staff in place before the tech can be delivered.

I kept trying to get him to duplicate that all that isn’t required to get staff through, even if only one at a time. It was amazing for me to see how he could not respond other than to state the party line about the building. He just could not think it through.

The only other time I have personally witnessed what I saw in my son was a time years ago when a friend of mine was hypnotized by her brother in front of me and her boyfriend. Her brother asked me what I would like him to have her do after he woke her up. I wanted to see if she would repeat something that she would considered silly under normal circumstances. I said, have her get up and flush the toilet every time you tug at your collar.

So he gave her the command, then woke her up. He tugged his collar, she got up, went into the bathroom and flushed the toilet, came back and sat down. He tugged his collar again, and she did it again. And again. After three or four times, I finally asked her why she kept getting up to flush the toilet.

First, she just said it needed flushing. She did it again. And again, I asked her why she kept flushing the toilet. Each time I asked her, she would make up some lame reason as to why she had to flush the toilet.

She got more and more annoyed at me for asking, but she did it again and again upon command and could never see that there was anything strange about it.

Her brother hypnotized her once more to release her of the command, but what an amazing thing to have witnessed.

This is what I saw in my son. He could not answer a simple question about Super Power, but only parrot the party line.

Emphasis ,mine, to underline what happens with an awake individual's "friends" who just refuse to hear or talk about anything else than what's on TeeVee...

So... how to un-hypnotize skull-dwelling zombies who are either under the spell of post-hypnotic orders and behaviours, or an equivalent, when they are not only unaware of it but would fight anyone attempting to demonstrate it to them... tough catch-22 job!


* "Orthodox" Church of Scientology building in Clearwater, Fl., operated by the S.O. or "Sea Organization."

Check also this one... how it's done (read the comment):

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM1TUdmuOeg

[Doctor]

Dealing with narrow or closed minded individuals is never easy. They will always shut everything out and I will typically get the "God created everything" response. I mention aliens, they say "god" created them. I think all narrow minded people just like to be "right" more than anything. It's sad. There's a whole universe out there and most people like to stay hibernated in their little bubble. it doesn't matter how much proof you show them, it will never matter.

More recently, I got into a debate about all the things that have been happening this year. The strange noises, seismic activity, volcanic activity, even all the secret bills being passed by our government. A certain individual had a response for everything, questioning every detail that I have already explained. Even though I show proof of the increase in activity, their response was always "there is no increase in activity".

I hope disclosure happens VERY soon. That would be the ultimate "I told you so" story.

[Mandala]

I have been in the same situations as the rest of you. It has been incredibly frustrating more times than not, especially with my closest friends and family members.

Giving this further thought, I believe not only do the people not want to hear what we have to say, don't care what we have to say, can't comprehend what we have to say, but are truly not ready to hear due to their life contracts of what they are here to learn. If we interfere, we possibly might interrupt their spiritual journey and a valuable lesson they have contracted to experience. Remember, not all these people are on the same timeline or timetable as we are.

Once you dangle the bait and they refuse, walk away. It is not their time. Unconditional love makes this possible, while making it also incredibly difficult.

[kcbc2010]

Western/American culture doesn't value respect as much as other cultures. Sadly, we tape elderly people getting beat up by teenagers, but don't do anything to stop it. Then we have the kids who decide that it's a bright idea to deal with their emotional issues by bringing a gun to school and killing people. So, rude people really don't surprise me anymore.

Mostly, what I find is that a lot of people on the Left and Right talk a lot about working together and talking together, but they are more interested in talking at each other than listening to each other.

It's like every conversation has to be like how the news shows get the pundit from the Left and the Right and there isn't really discussion, but a couple of people spewing out their propaganda hoping something sticks. That's just not productive and I've grown weary of that kind of communication. It takes two people listening and actively participating in a conversation to discuss things and ideas.

We've been programmed to behave the way we are behaving.

I started reading a book last night about Atlantis called the "Lost Continent" and it's really quite chilling when you start seeing your own country as an Atlantis that is destroying from the inside due to a lack of spirituality and respect for people/nature. It's very riveting, but I force myself to put it down because it's just sad how Atlantis is hoping that this one man from the priest-class will save her as others from his class have been seduced by darkness and inhumanity.

I wonder if things will get so bad that we'll be waiting and wondering if one man can save us and it's just sad to think about and I don't want to think about it too much because our thoughts create reality you know...

I can only change myself and influence those around me. There are topics that I'd love to discuss with my friends, but I also know it's not the time. So, I wait and learn and read....and hang out on PA....

[9eagle9]

that should be a clue that perhaps you are not qualified nor obligated to deal with them unless they are somehow imposing on you.

When we preach the 'truth' to people we are actually imposing on them, from their POV and they will respond in the same way that you would if they preached their zombie doctrine to you. So we can expect that they will respond that way. Programmed people are very predictable. It is then up to us to either accept it or keep denying that we are banging our heads on a wall. I understand that I am now. So there is really no one to blame but myself.

If we are expecting progress and beneficial I would suggest we don't adopt a 'I told you so' attitude; chances are what effects them is going us all. ..in some fashion or another.

Posted by Doctor (here)
Dealing with narrow or closed minded individuals is never easy. They will always shut everything out and I will typically get the "God created everything" response. I mention aliens, they say "god" created them. I think all narrow minded people just like to be "right" more than anything. It's sad. There's a whole universe out there and most people like to stay hibernated in their little bubble. it doesn't matter how much proof you show them, it will never matter.

More recently, I got into a debate about all the things that have been happening this year. The strange noises, seismic activity, volcanic activity, even all the secret bills being passed by our government. A certain individual had a response for everything, questioning every detail that I have already explained. Even though I show proof of the increase in activity, their response was always "there is no increase in activity".

I hope disclosure happens VERY soon. That would be the ultimate "I told you so" story.

[mexrph]

I don't even attempt to talk to anyone with a high degree of cognitive dissonance (inability to incorporate new information because that new information causes a great deal of mental anxiety). Some people don't want to hear what we tell them because then they would have to do something about it. And they want to continue to live in their dream world.

[9eagle9]

(inability to incorporate new information because that new information causes a great deal of mental anxiety).

worth repeating.

[justoneman]

Posted by pilotsimone (here)
We only have small bits and pieces of the truth right now (all of us). No one really knows what is going on large scale. So, I find it irresponsible to pressure people with this stuff when I'm certain they are not receptive.

Some have far more truthful information (and actual experiences of some of these sad truths) than others - some of us also have the pressure of knowing the likely world they are leaving their children by holding back, by keeping it to themselves when someone doesn't want to hear it... - read Jackovesk's example - it wasn't easy being direct with his brother but a few days later he was thanked by same. Sometimes there's the need to be brutally honest.

[pilotsimone]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Some have far more truthful information (and actual experiences of some of these sad truths) than others - some of us also have the pressure of knowing the likely world they are leaving their children by holding back, by keeping it to themselves when someone doesn't want to hear it... - read Jackovesk's example - it wasn't easy being direct with his brother but a few days later he was thanked by same. Sometimes there's the need to be brutally honest.

I wonder if you'd be willing to test this approach for the next several weeks on your family and friends...using Jack's words and attitude shown below?

An interesting experiment for sure.

"You Dumb-'Effing' Bastard, its time you started paying attention

You naive bastard, just put in a You Tube Search…then come back to me after you've educated yourself..!" ...and 'Hung-Up'

[justoneman]

I would get nowhere with that exact type of approach - what I meant to communicate was not backing down and being brutally honest - I wouldn't use the language style you pointed out as it shuts down my family and friends to do so.

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
(inability to incorporate new information because that new information causes a great deal of mental anxiety).

worth repeating.

I have a neighbor, one of the very few people I try to talk to.
He was programmed 40 years ago on the farm where he
grew up. He has nothing but those solid programmings.
Everything outside the programs is Terra Incognita.
Stepping out of those programs can be seen as similar to
jumping into an abyss totally unprepared. He has answers to
everything, knows how everything functions, how people
think and wots driving them. LOL BTW, did you know there
are only economic values in the world? LOL
I dunno wot it would take to rock his boat. He mocks me by
always telling me that the only value there are in trees are that
they can be burnt to create heat indoors. He knows I love
trees. LOL He is almost always angry with his wife, children,
relatives, gays, immigrants and so on. And Im sure he isnt
the only one of that sort of machine in this world. LOL
Is he afraid? You bet.

All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Paula]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
He knows I love trees.

Trees rock! This is for you, Jorr;

[Doctor]

Do any of you get the crazy label as much as I do? This must be a daily occurrence for me. Those who do not understand will always call you crazy. It's the "crazy" ones that have been right.

[Paula]

Posted by Doctor (here)
Do any of you get the crazy label as much as I do? This must be a daily occurrence for me. Those who do not understand will always call you crazy. It's the "crazy" ones that have been right.

Agreed, Doc, crazy is a badge of honor; one who has taken the multidimensional leap. One who stands in her/his own Truth.

[Murray]

Dont worry too much about being called crazy. Maybe its a compliment.

"Insanity -- a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world." R. D. Lang

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius

"A person needs a little madness, or else they never dare cut the rope and be free." Nikos Kazantzakis

"In a mad world, only the mad are sane." Akiro Kurosawa

"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.... I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends ... and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it."
John Lennon

[pilotsimone]

Posted by Doctor (here)
Do any of you get the crazy label as much as I do? This must be a daily occurrence for me. Those who do not understand will always call you crazy. It's the "crazy" ones that have been right.

...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. ~Nietzsche

[9eagle9]

I don't get the crazy label, then again I don't spout a bunch of bull**** or talk about things I don't clearly comprehend either.

I get the 'bitch' label, raving lunatic PMS bitch, overly authoritative, arrogant , superiority complex bitch.

I'm too intelligent to be labeled crazy even by the sheeple.

When someone says you are crazy they are essentially saying "you are making me uncomfortable and I can't deal with it so something must be wrong with you ".

They're fear just re-translates everything .

Never about what people think, its what they know. And if they knew ....they'd not have to think you were crazy to keep themselves safe.

But if given a choice between crazy and stooopid...I'd take crazy.

[Belle]

Posted by pilotsimone (here)

Posted by Doctor (here)
Do any of you get the crazy label as much as I do? This must be a daily occurrence for me. Those who do not understand will always call you crazy. It's the "crazy" ones that have been right.

...and those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. ~Nietzsche

I was lead to believe George Carlin said that...it was among a list of some of his quotes. I may have to change my signature.

Joking aside, I just read a post on O'Finioan's Blog dated April 15th that speaks to rudeness and those that would hurt others. Not written in anger, but in a gentle and thoughtful way...as one would speak to a child who is not aware of the harm one brings to one's self when hurting another, and the value of love and forgiveness.

Sharing a post I found beautifully written...Found at http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/

The Beast

April 15, 2012 at 9:11 pm (Uncategorized)



I really don’t know why I’m writing this.

It’s for a very select few, and they will know who they are when they read it.

Problem is, I know it will fall on deaf ears, and deaf hearts. Hearts that have been turned and hardened by the beast.

I am also not sure how many of the words to be written here are actually mine. Ya just never know sometimes.

To the people this is not meant for, all I ask is that if you find this worthy enough, pass it on.

So … with that ….

The Beast. Do you know him? He knows you. He has many names, this beast. Some call him the Devil, Satan, Lucifer, Diablo and so on. For us it’s Loki. You help feed him, give him power.

With every cruelty you write, he grows in strength. With every laugh you have at those who are broken and in pain, he smiles.

Don’t you see him? Do you use a mirror? He’s there, looking at you smiling, pleased with his handiwork.

You take the time to read someone’s blog and their writings, or watch and pretend to listen to someone pouring out their hearts and their pain.

Then, oh then … you start writing, and the Beast helps. But remember, the Beast can only help you if YOU let Him. You do, eagerly.

So you start writing painful, vile, vulgar words. It so pleases the Beast. Does it please you? It must. Because you go back and write more of your ugliness to and about someone who is broken and only needs someone to hear.

That someone is most certainly not you, is it? No. No, you let the Beast take control and fuel your already burning blackened hearts.

Have you never asked yourselves why you would or could ever write such hate? How does it make you feel when you go back and read what you wrote? Does it make you happy, proud? It does the Beast. He roars with delight! You did feed him, after all.

You both got what you wanted. YOU got to show people how small of a hate filled person you are. How vile your hearts truly are. How in need of help YOU are. The Beast? Well, he got you.

Then one day it happens. You become the broken. You need someone to listen to you. Does the Beast you have fed for so long care?

Hardly. He leaves you, broken, in need and alone. Then suddenly, you find YOURSELF on the receiving end of hate.

And there he is. The Beast. Now with his hand on someone else’s shoulder pushing that person to do to YOU what YOU spent so much time and energy doing to others!

How will YOU feel when that day comes?

“Oh, that will never happen!” you think. Yes it will. It may be years, but it always does.

You could be in an automobile accident tomorrow. Be laid up for months. Job gone. Money gone. In need of help.

Will the Beast help you? No. Will any of the others doing his work help you? No.

You know who would?

The very people YOU worked so hard to do harm to. These are the people who care. Not the Beast, not others like YOU not the agencies you work for, but the people you caused pain to!

Next time you stand in front of a mirror, take a good, long look at yourself. What do you see?

Do you see someone with goodness in their heart? Or, do you see the Beast standing behind you, whispering at you?

Do some soul-searching.