REAL subliminal message ‘KILL’ caught accidentally on the MSM News..!

[KiwiElf]

The scary thing about subliminal messaging is the hit-rate effectiveness. Some people are naturally immune as with hypnosis, however, even with a well executed message - which is usually just 2-3 frames - the "hit rate" can be over 40% of the target audience with the first exposure.

Coca-Cola tried this decades ago and the case is well known although largely ignored (and refuted) these days. They first programmed the theatre audience with the suggestion, "Your'e Thirsty", followed by "Drink Coca-Cola". That particular "test" had a 42% effective hit rate on the first exposure. Obviously if you didn't like Coca-Cola in the first place, then the "Drink Coke" part didn't work so well. However, the initial message of being "thirsty" worked very well. Sales of other drinks in the test theaters went up considerably.

[Cilka]

It's a known fact that we are being bombarded by subliminal messages all the time, but what is really disturbing is why the word 'kill' would be used in this case. Is it possible to find out what was being broadcasted at the time this subliminal message was caught on the screen? If you have a magazine at home just take a close look at some of the advertisement pages, there is tons of subliminal messages pertaining to buying, sex and even death. I think we live in a crazies world, that's for sure, and kids are most vulnerable to this garbage.

By the way, that move 'They Live' is one of the best.

[MacStar]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Its time to turn off The Tell Lie Vision. I get the cooties when im around the jack in the box to say the least. Anyone else?

Yep for sure,we are well aware of this at home and don't watch the TV.The exception was of late when my partner was admittedly "hooked" on a particular Cooking Competition style show
I subjected myself to it(as one does...ah the sacrifices one makes for the "Boss" LOL)...nah She's cool and up to speed on all this
Now that the season has ended(thank god),she even now admits that besides being bombarded with ad's,that afterwards she would feel depressed,though inspired by the recipes.Therein lies the duality of "The Box" like in my Avatar...but the ad's are always analysed these days by us for their content and connections to current events,pre-programming etc
For example one segment of ads contained at least 9 "Coke" bottles or insignia's within different(sometimes the same) Ad's.
Speaking of "The Puzzle Box",Rob Ager has an awesome website and Tube Channel on Movies,especially on Kubrick(Weidner's Kubrick's Odysee is brilliant and Jay is also on interviewed RIR)
This is(was!) an excerpt about the analysis of "The Box":
http://www.collativelearning.com/HEL...0analysis.html
Wish I had downloaded it as it is now no longer available due to Starz Media LLC.
It basically said that the idea behind "The Box" was a reflection of the Viewere watching the movie in "The Box" and becoming emotionally detached from reality.
Science itself shows that it takes less than a few minutes for the brainwaves to slow to a hypnagogic state....just watch kids after a few minutes staring at the flicker and if you are a parent you will know how hard it is to snap them back to "reality".

Posted by Cilka (here)
It's a known fact that we are being bombarded by subliminal messages all the time, but what is really disturbing is why the word 'kill' would be used in this case. Is it possible to find out what was being broadcasted at the time this subliminal message was caught on the screen? If you have a magazine at home just take a close look at some of the advertisement pages, there is tons of subliminal messages pertaining to buying, sex and even death. I think we live in a crazies world, that's for sure, and kids are most vulnerable to this garbage.

By the way, that move 'They Live' is one of the best.

Really loved that Movie and my Partner had never seen it until this year ,so I found a copy and she loved it.Strange thing is within weeks of getting it,it was actually aired on TV for the first time in many years!

If this is indeed subliminal messaging(see amendments to my last post),and it caused the "86 Suicides" as it "looks like" on the site to the average observer,then it's possible the next subliminal would have been "Yourself"

[MacStar]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
The scary thing about subliminal messaging is the hit-rate effectiveness. Some people are naturally immune as with hypnosis, however, even with a well executed message - which is usually just 2-3 frames - the "hit rate" can be over 40% of the target audience with the first exposure.

Coca-Cola tried this decades ago and the case is well known although largely ignored (and refuted) these days. They first programmed the theatre audience with the suggestion, "Your'e Thirsty", followed by "Drink Coca-Cola". That particular "test" had a 42% effective hit rate on the first exposure. Obviously if you didn't like Coca-Cola in the first place, then the "Drink Coke" part didn't work so well. However, the initial message of being "thirsty" worked very well. Sales of other drinks in the test theaters went up considerably.

Yes I agree,my Dad spoke of this many times and also the reason why "Stage Hypnotists" send most of the volunteers back to the audience.

[Maknocktomb]

When I was in college I took a international politics class and we covered a section on subliminal messages. It was very eye opening. Most of the subliminal messages at that time were located in print ads. We were able to find all sorts of messages in magazines from the words sex in most woman's/men's magazines to pictures of skull and cross bones in tobacco ads. Even though it is illegal in the U.S. to use subliminal messages in TV and radio, I believe it is very prevalent. Most of the technology being used is beyond what most of the population is aware of. However, some of the things we see is Pareidolia (the mind seeing shapes in the clouds, etc...). If you do a Google search on subliminal messages you can find some of the ads with the hidden messages. I like to think of myself as not being susceptible to hypnosis or subliminal messages, but all it takes is for a television program or a few commercials about food and I am ready to eat. I have taken the first steps of recognizing and being aware of all the programming that is sent to all of us 24/7.

[Avocadess]

I'm with you, WhiteFeather...!! I have been without a TV for four and a half years and if I had had any IDEA how wonderful it would be to break free from the tube I would have done so much, much sooner! The quality of my life made a quantum leap...!

[Avocadess]

Maknocktomb: What would be the purpose of skull and cross bones in tobacco ads in a subliminal message? People who want people to stop smoking or what?

Strange synchronicity (if it is that): I just got home from visiting the local food co-op. They have a habit of putting refrigerator magnets that are for sale on the side counters where you pass by when you check out. Apparently one of those magnets fell into my bag -- which I just discovered. The creepy part is this: it is a rectangle with a black background and white skull and bones. I must say I am looking forward to returning it to them...!

MacStar: Are you saying that hypnotists send most back to the audience because they can see that they are not good subjects? If yes, how can they tell?

[MacStar]

Posted by Avocadess (here)

MacStar: Are you saying that hypnotists send most back to the audience because they can see that they are not good subjects? If yes, how can they tell?

Yes for sure,it's a pretty big business and well known for this factor.These guys make $$$ from people who are willing to be hypnotised and act like a chicken(says something about them IMHO LOL),but also some take too long,even though they are susceptible to waste time with.

I have plenty of experience with Hypnosis used in CBT and also have successfully guided a 2 people into the Hypnotic State with a post-hypnotic suggestion implant.
When they came out,their hands were stuck together and they were completely spinning out as they had NO recollection of agreeing to this, nor what the "trigger" word was...then after a while I said the word amongst a sentence and the hands came free.
They were astounded

[Mandala]

Is anyone else getting video unavailable messages. If not, could any one tell me possibly why I can't play them and get this message? Thanks for the help.

[MacStar]

Posted by Mandala (here)
Is anyone else getting video unavailable messages. If not, could any one tell me possibly why I can't play them and get this message? Thanks for the help.

Hey Mandala,works fine here.
Try again after refreshing the page or try the link under.

Cheers

[KiwiElf]

Anyone who has studied or practices Marketing/Advertising knows the power of the Psychology used which the "consumer" is often oblivious to.

This can include certain words, images colours etc. It comes under the topic of Consumer Behaviour or Consumerism which covers Psychology, Sociology, Anthropology and Economics.

It's reasonably safe to watch selective TV/movies armed with this knowledge

Embeds are also popular (these are not subliminal), ie having products/services/logos etc appear in the background, ie Pepsi. The James Bond Movies are classic examples of this and not in any way harmful. ie Aston Martin cars, Rolex (watches), Walter ppk (gun), SONY et al... - all of these companies have indeed benefitted by having their products featured.

[scarletfire]

In response to the increase in violence that we see in various ways and the reference by Unified Serenity to the KKK, I immediately think of the Travon/Zimmerman case that is all over the MSM. There is a feeling that this kind of thing is a remnant of the KKK/good ol boy network where violence against blacks was tolerated in the south, and apparently still is tolerated without consequence. I don't entirely agree, instead I look at Zimmerman as an individual who is easily programmed by fear and the subliminal undertones in our culture that urge us to use violence to protect ourselves against a perceived threat. Zimmerman seems to be paranoid and extra fearful of his surroundings as the stereotype (program) of young black men in sweatshirts are the enemy. Is it a coincidence that this took place in Florida where the stand your ground law was put into effect by Jeb Bush? It has been suggested that the Bush clan have nazi ideals, if this is true, it would almost propel their agenda to have severe racial tension breed in our culture, which is what this case seems to be doing. I read a statistic that only 32 percent of whites believe that Zimmerman was wrong in his actions against Travon...WTF?? Zimmerman doesn't strike me as a guy who dresses up in white sheets and reminisces about the days of burning crosses, instead he reminds me of an undiagnosed case of paranoid schizophrenia. So now we wait for the trial of Zimmerman and I can almost bet he gets off, which means business owners in Florida and perhaps the country should stock up on plywood...meaning riots. Remember LA after Rodney King. This is a very divisive scenario playing out and the picture of the subliminal message in the TV kind of makes one wonder about environmental programs that tip a once sane individual into a paranoid state and eventually into a state of violence and fear.

[9eagle9]

Now in shopping malls they keep the humidity down so you're dying of thirst the moments after you step in.

And the mosquito drills. The high pitched tones they use in malls to keep teenagers out during certain hours. Unfortunately not just young adults are susceptible to that sort of subtonic subliminal. I used to think going to a mall pissed me off because of the 'energy' there. Its the toning, it claws at the limbic portion of the brain until you feel like throttling someone.

You can create filters for this sort of thing though. The mosquito buzz tones you can as well. The really sub-aural ones you may not be able to hear, but you are aware of them. I'm not really a mall person but if there I'll window shop , being as I like to look at pretty things as much as anyone else (Just don't feel the need to own something to enjoy it). Think about it though, you're standing around looking at some neat things in the shops and suddenly become aware of the fact you feel like driving a stake into someone's heart. How does that add up? One is inclined to think "gee I think something is psychically imposing on me."

Getting a better understanding of Black Friday? Every year I hear people gasping over the ghastly behavior of consumers during the holidays and, and, and......?

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
"Sublimal Messages busted" is another good one to watch...
Everyone thought my father was nuts because he could pick up the one subliminal message at the movie theater that made you get thirsty. I remember that it was supposed to be illegal to do subliminals unless you make a buyer aware of what's being said.
I'm REALLY getting sick of the cabal....

[9eagle9]

I don't watch MSM , but I had wondered why the KKK issue suddenly erupted again here in my area. Or became a hot topic. Michigan being in the north has never been what one could consider a nest for the KKK but a great deal of chatter has erupted here amongst the sheeple. Because sheep can't put two and two together what might be an important symptom of hidden larger infestation at work, its been expressed or deflected from in the usual idiotic ways.

Like eyeballing the fly masks that horses wear. They 'look like KKK' masks. As if that indicates some sinister work at foot. Other than shrugging off responsibility for my horses subversive night time activities (I was aware she was up to something at night but didn't realize it extended to attending Clan meetings)I did notice this sudden upsurge in chatter about KKK figuring if I waited patiently enough (or hired a private detective to find out what the area horses are up to) something would be revealed eventually.

Making a little more sense to me now.

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Thanks for this story Jack. Can this be faked? Sure it can, but was it? I don't think it was. How could it be faked given her crappy phone? Well, just hook up a computer to your digital tv, open a screen with that on it, and voila, "KILL" backwards. I do not think that is what happened. Lots of people take pictures of themselves from various angles.

ps. Are you being "programmed"? Are we being incited to violence in various ways? I wonder why they have been showing racially volatile stuff on tv lately like "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The history of the KKK". I don't know about you, but I haven't seen any crosses burning in my 46 years of life. Does the KKK exist? Sure it does, but so do the New Black Panthers. I haven't seen massive marches by the KKK in many years.

[9eagle9]

Hypnosis or going into state has symptoms. In a very large audiences these symptoms may not be noticeable because of the distance between the stage hypnosis and the members of the audience.

A stage hypnosis starts a line of patter that may be perceived as 'just' conversation (there is a reason why entertainers have a way of 'warming up the audience') but its inducting a hypnotic state. People have varying degrees of susceptibility to hypnosis. Shock induction takes seconds, another form takes a few minutes, another even longer up to a half hour. EVERYONE can be hypnotised, not every one can be induced quickly and not everyone will hold a state of induction. Meaning you can go for years in a state of auto hypnosis and then something happens to snap you out of it. Gives a whole new way of looking at 'awakening' or becoming 'aware'.

The stage hypnotist starts the script and then calls audience members forward to better see if they are showing symptoms of going into state. If not they probably can't be brought into state very quickly. For entertainment value its boring to an audience to watch someone attempt to mid to long stage form of induction so they look for people who can be shock inducted. Which takes a second or two. You can shock induct a person standing in line at the grocery story. Pick pockets can shock induct . You bump someone in the street, start the script, (Oh gee GOD, I'm REALLY sorry, Oh god did I cause that cut on your arm? No? Oh thank god, oh **** here let me straighten your lapels) get the wallet, takes 2-3 seconds. The victim stands there ...durrrh....durp....strolls on , realizes five minutes or five hours later their wallet is missing.

9/11 was form of mass shock induction.

In smaller groups where there's not much distance between the hypnotist and the audience this, sending folks back and forth isn't necessary if the audience is close enough to get a good visual on. Do it on TV to a mass audience you're going to get A LOT of people in state regardless of how susceptible they are because the scripting of 9/11 went on for days.

Primary symptoms are subtle but noticeable if one knows what to look for like reddening of the eyes and the eyes beginning to water slightly. One looks for slackening of certain muscles. You get the person to speak and watch them closely you're going to see further symptoms. I always say the PTB are masters of psychology--we HAVE to be too.

A skull represents transcendence of death. The bones crossed over are meant to X out that representation. Say no to Life. If you see skulls and cross bones on products like tobacco, organic foods or anything that is provided on the market to the consumer (not poisons etc) to be ingested one wonders why THEY don't want you to have it. Or subliminate you into not wanting it.

Tobacco has a number properties to it in its unadulterated form. Even unadulterated with chemicals tobacco still manages to hold certain properties that ptb don't particularly care for the sheep to have. Indigenous people didn't smoke it or use it in ceremony and ritual and to treat lung infections because its harmful. Who MADE it harmful by adulterating it and why?

Does anyone ever get out of the pathology of the subject and observe the smoker directly. Which speaks volumes. No we just have gone by what the greatest pawn of the PTB , the AMA, says. They said it was harmful so we all fell down on our knees, "Yess massa, of course massa, whatever you say or script us with Massa."

And those who believe tobacco harms a person has been auto-hypnotized. Repeating a script over and over until it becomes 'the truth.' You believe its going to hurt you while hoarking down a pack a day , it will. You believe it will give you cancer or emphysema, it will. You don't it won't. The mind has tremendous power over the body, for good bad or indifferent. Holistic medicine is the entity that discovered that 85 percent of lung cancers in smokers WEREN"T lung cancers at all but plaque build ups from the accumulation of white blood cells from the body's reaction to the minds insistence that something was wrong with it.

You get a fake cancer though, or one your mind has built you are going to get treated with REAL Toxins. Chemotherapy is really nothing but idle experimentation. Gee what will this do? How many people die each year because of some hardened white blood cells on their lungs.

No one even bothers to look at what the script says. Take a drug like Neurontin. What does the drug do after long term use? Look at the word and tell me.
SAY the word outloud several times and see what you get.

If one can't tell me get one better get their head out of their ass and become aware of how our language (which is how programming and scripts are built) is creating our own prison.

This scripting is leverage. It leverages our emotional fields. It mostly leverages if not creates a vast amount of self absorption (which results --just one example-- mindless consumerism) constantly having to feed the need.

How many allegedly open minded people will still protest that tobacco is bad for you. Well they have a script running and will deny its running. That's a program running there and lots of people have it. Even 'enlightened' ones and they have their own reasons for wanting that program to remain. But once a program or scripting starts all sorts of new attachments can be placed on it.

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Maknocktomb: What would be the purpose of skull and cross bones in tobacco ads in a subliminal message? People who want people to stop smoking or what?

Strange synchronicity (if it is that): I just got home from visiting the local food co-op. They have a habit of putting refrigerator magnets that are for sale on the side counters where you pass by when you check out. Apparently one of those magnets fell into my bag -- which I just discovered. The creepy part is this: it is a rectangle with a black background and white skull and bones. I must say I am looking forward to returning it to them...!

MacStar: Are you saying that hypnotists send most back to the audience because they can see that they are not good subjects? If yes, how can they tell?

[9eagle9]

Post afterthought.

Skull and Cross bones is the oldest known 'curse' and its universal. It has assumed its own power now by insinuating itself into our psyche over thousands of years. The Skull and the bones were originally arranged with the bones shaped into a V shape. The V was arranged over the skull.

If one is ever subjected to the skull and crossed bones, simply rearrange the bones back to where they better serve you.

[Paula]

Doesn't fit this thread.

[KiwiElf]

I've always wondered how damaging the actual "Health Warnings" on cigarettes are compared to the cigarettes themselves. They are a blatant "suggestion" that such-and-such will happen. (and if you really want to see what kills you faster, go breathe deeply on the exhaust fumes coming out of your car!. Strange no health warnings there :-/)

Like advertisements, the messages work by spaced repetition and we all learn this way: An idea or message is seldom absorbed the first time it is presented. New learning and knowledge is not usually understood, accepted and internalised until you have been exposed to the message a minimum of six times.

(This can be a positive or negative thing depending on "what" message you are being exposed to, ie positive vs negative affirmations)
It works a bit like "mental osmosis" - something like this:

1st Exposure: "I reject that thought/concept/idea because it conflicts with my preconceived beliefs/thoughts/ideas!"

2nd Exposure: "Well I understand it, but I can't accept it"

3rd Exposure: "I agree with the thought/concept/idea but have reservations as to its use"

4th Exposure: "That thought/concept/idea mostly expresses the way I feel/believe about the subject"

5th Exposure: "I used that idea/thought/concept today. It's awesome!"

6th Exposure: "I gave that idea/thought/concept to someone today. In the true sense of the word, the idea now belongs to me!" (it is now internalised)

[meeradas]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
If one is ever subjected to the skull and crossed bones, simply rearrange the bones back to where they better serve you.

i replaced the bones with some 25 orange gerbera in a purple nebula, topped with a parrot, long time ago. Seems to work.

[Maia Gabrial]

The scary thing about subliminal messaging is the hit-rate effectiveness. Some people are naturally immune as with hypnosis, however, even with a well executed message - which is usually just 2-3 frames - the "hit rate" can be over 40% of the target audience with the first exposure.

Coca-Cola tried this decades ago and the case is well known although largely ignored (and refuted) these days. They first programmed the theatre audience with the suggestion, "Your'e Thirsty", followed by "Drink Coca-Cola". That particular "test" had a 42% effective hit rate on the first exposure. Obviously if you didn't like Coca-Cola in the first place, then the "Drink Coke" part didn't work so well. However, the initial message of being "thirsty" worked very well. Sales of other drinks in the test theaters went up considerably.

Good point, KiwiElf! Thing is they make sure you can't bring your own drinks to the theater....
I'm wondering how successful the "Kill" message would be then...? I'm thinking that the crime rate has gone up dramatically. And maybe alot of it has to do with desensitizing people to the violence in movies...

I REALLY hate the cabal....