Debt Crisis Plotted to Deliver the Euro to the IMF?

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by Paul (here)
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A little searching around for "Markabians" found this Ron's Org article that looked interesting: http://www.ronsorg.org/tableofconten...or9/sobn21.htm

Interesting indeed, that's where all the above material comes from (check this post where I quoted portions of the piece you linked to).

I collected these materials a while back and didn't think about them until it finally clicked that a number of "contactees" were telling similar stories... 20-30 years later.

Then the positive side of the decree started to drip out mostly with D.W. and once one draws an equivalence between Markabian/anunnaki/illuminati/psychos, everything else falls into place... even something like Inelia saying something to the effect of "Lucifer left the building"... Oooohhh... THAT guy!

PS: Check this one for a summary: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob19.htm

[Paul]

Posted by Zebra (here)
Are you referring to a one-world currency, Paul?

If the (rather gloomy) scenario that I and the opening post are anticipating comes about, then while the new resulting "reserve currency" will be called a "one world currency", that term is misleading.

What I am anticipating is that

• while each nation (or region, if the Euro survives) will have its own, traditional, currency (Dollars in US, Pounds in UK, Yen in Japan, Yuan in China, Ruble in Russia, Rial in Qatar, Baht in Thailand, and so forth),
• the US Dollar in its world Reserve Currency role will be replaced by some International Monetary Fund (IMF) "reserve currency",
• international trade payments will be (except when an agreement to the contrary exists) settled in terms of this new "reserve currency",
• international contracts and agreements will be (by default) written in terms of this new "reserve currency",
• and the debt of nations (such as US Treasury bonds) will be payable in this new "reserve currency" if that debtor nation expects much foreign sale of that debt paper.

So the man on the street will have his traditional national currency, but the key variable will be the price of domestic goods relative to imported goods, and the value received by selling locally versus exporting.

A country (such as the US in the last couple decades) that imports too much, has insufficient local production, or sells too much debt paper internationally will have a "weak" national currency (worth less of the "reserve currency".) This will encourage residents of that country to purchase locally (imports will be "too expensive"), to manufacture locally for both domestic use and export (exports will earn more profit) and to increase local production. Local shops selling locally produced goods will have an easier time competing with Wal*Mart, selling imported Chinese goods.

A country (such as China in the last couple decades) that exports too much, has excess local production, or purchases too much foreign debt paper will have the opposite incentives.

This "reserve currency" is, in a word, John Maynard Keynes's "bancor".

The impact on Americans will be that Chinese Wal*Mart goods, foreign cars (whether BMW or Toyota or Hyundai), and foreign oil will be more expensive - perhaps twice as expensive. This will encourage increased domestic manufacturing, farming, and oil drilling (unless "free energy" is made public ... which would be awesome ... but I'm not counting on it.). Much debt will be written off, and interest rates paid on debt and mortgages will spike much higher. People will borrow less, and buy more domestic goods. The housing bubble of the last couple decades will complete its collapse. Many who had been working in the "service industries" and in the construction industry building houses and strip malls will find themselves working in local production of food, energy and dry goods.

I am anticipating that this will be accompanied by a major increase in the overt control of this planet by the "Markabians", whereas Amzer Zo is seeing evidence that the "Markabian" control of this planet is collapsing.

Not too surprisingly, I look forward to the day when Amzer Zo yells a big "I told you so" my way ... we will be both be grinning ear to ear that day (unless I am protesting that it's a "false dawn".)

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The establishment of such an international reserve currency might in and of itself not be either gloomy or promising. The key would be whether it is used by "Markabian" controlled institutions to further control of humanity on this planet.

We had such a "reserve currency" in the 1800's and often before, in the form of what is now called "free gold". The limited and rather stable amount of "above ground" gold served as the essential throttle on this monetary system, and by some accounts, served rather well.

The problem with the bancor is that the throttle is not transparent and physical, like gold, but rather the throttle would be an international commission implementing complex policies depending on accurate information of the imports, exports and debt holdings of each nation. The "Markabians" just love such international commissions ... they can be an opaque means to exercise immense power.

[Zebra]

Thank you for this abstract, Paul.

The context you give, really helps lay people of economics, like myself to read further. Now I feel more confident to follow and discern the ensuing play out.

If it is down with the Markabians, in controlling the rites and passage of exchange, what I wonder is a useful intentional image we can all mediate with, so we can bring on the system we want.

[Paul]

Posted by Zebra (here)
Thank you for this abstract, Paul.

The context you give, really helps lay people of economics, like myself to read further. Now I feel more confident to follow and discern the ensuing play out.

If it is down with the Markabians, in controlling the rites and passage of exchange, what I wonder is a useful intentional image we can all mediate with, so we can bring on the system we want.

You're welcome - thanks for the good question.

I wouldn't know what to meditate on ... I don't meditate ... I seek a proper conceptual understanding .

[Paul]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
That said, I am not too keen on you being right about a currency designed by the IMF... which would mean that the old PTB transitioned to new PTB... same guys and schemes all over again.

That's OK ... I'm not keen on my being right either ... for the same reasons .

[gabbahh]

Posted by Paul (here)
I continue to suspect that the most likely outcome of the current economic problems is a deeper world wide depression, that will be used to motivate the introduction of a new world wide monetary arrangement, with various regional or national currencies exchanged in international trade and foreign exchange for a new world-wide reserve monetary construct, similar to Keynes bancor - as described in the above article.

Very true, one of my favourite sites.

Also a big breach of net security + credit card theft will make the majority scream for biometric net identification. Behind the scenes the information will be coupled to create even better profiles of the facebook generation.

Some years ago the ppl at verisign/chip thought we would all be walking around with an implant within a decade. However our brothers, sisters, our loved ones are building the (facebook/google/COMMUNITY) cage themselves, current events will introduce digimoney linked to biometric universal passports and voila. 24/7 monitoring, profiling and full controll of ppl/countries/corps (same things???) through fake currency and all by their free will.

At least, that's prolly their new 5 year plan for tomorrow. Their = web of corporations, alphabet agencies and other scared ppl.

[Zebra]

Yes, I agree. Understanding the creation that we are bringing forward IS more important. The branding can come later

Yet perhaps such an idea is preposterous too. After all, the inherent symbolism of logos to embed ideologies is a construct that humanity might see fit to relinquish. They have been used as subliminal tools of control for too long, keeping humanity in holding patterns and not allowing for real abundant and generatative growth.

Posted by Paul (here)
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If it is down with the Markabians, in controlling the rites and passage of exchange, what I wonder is a useful intentional image we can all mediate with, so we can bring on the system we want.

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I wouldn't know what to meditate on ... I don't meditate ... I seek a proper conceptual understanding .[/QUOTE]