Abduction by Reptilian

[GoodeTXSG]

Agreed.......

[tonton]

[CODE Re: Abduction by Reptilian
hi tonton -- i've been going thru this thread, making sure i answered all posts -- i don't think i did w/you

i have learned to pay attention to those little thoughts about missing time & such -- especially if my thinking gets kind of fuzzy when i turn my attention there -- on the other hand, life was very different for me before i woke up during the abduction -- could be it's best to let sleeping dogs lie (:

just a thought -- i kind of got the feeling that you are unusual in some way & they were trying some kind of abduction technique on you that couldn't be used on most

wyn
][/CODE]
year well, i dont want to say something that i dont have clear, but slowly feeling my way there, had the feeling that maybe they probed me and said, na,this one is not ripe yet........... or?
but im shore with any physiological dysfunction, one will stimulate it out,often by accident,and the disfiguration appears,.takes time, patience and courage to take the disfigured memories to understand or remember with clarity, what it was about.we also have this grand way of taking things so personally,(quite natural and logical)but to understand some of this , perhaps its not the best method. if one were to try and separate themselves from the the person (you or i) pain, fear ,or distortion and then analyze it. one could feel less hurt by it .and one would lodgically see ,or look at it with a more powerful perspective.
bessos

[wynderer]

Hi Tonton -- the Hopi Elders advise us not to take anything personally at this time -- i wrote in another thread that i am dealing w/my abductions on a personal level -- it's a fact of my life -- what concerns me is the implications for Humanity as a whole w/these abductions

Posted by tonton (here)
[CODE Re: Abduction by Reptilian
hi tonton -- i've been going thru this thread, making sure i answered all posts -- i don't think i did w/you

i have learned to pay attention to those little thoughts about missing time & such -- especially if my thinking gets kind of fuzzy when i turn my attention there -- on the other hand, life was very different for me before i woke up during the abduction -- could be it's best to let sleeping dogs lie (:

just a thought -- i kind of got the feeling that you are unusual in some way & they were trying some kind of abduction technique on you that couldn't be used on most

wyn
][/CODE]
year well, i dont want to say something that i dont have clear, but slowly feeling my way there, had the feeling that maybe they probed me and said, na,this one is not ripe yet........... or?
but im shore with any physiological dysfunction, one will stimulate it out,often by accident,and the disfiguration appears,.takes time, patience and courage to take the disfigured memories to understand or remember with clarity, what it was about.we also have this grand way of taking things so personally,(quite natural and logical)but to understand some of this , perhaps its not the best method. if one were to try and separate themselves from the the person (you or i) pain, fear ,or distortion and then analyze it. one could feel less hurt by it .and one would lodgically see ,or look at it with a more powerful perspective.
bessos

[tonton]

Hi Tonton -- the Hopi Elders advise us not to take anything personally at this time -- i wrote in another thread that i am dealing w/my abductions on a personal level -- it's a fact of my life -- what concerns me is the implications for Humanity as a whole w/these abductions

wynderer ,you know that i meant to always try to analyze from a distance,an experience or a memory, as if you were looking at someone else,with distance. our personal feelings hurt us with memories that hurt us. with all that you have been going through, you have time to worry for humanity.!you are such a powerful person.
i can tell you one thing , you have helped me, with your strength to continue and truth.there is now one human that is starting to see.

[wynderer]

thank you, Tonton, for your words of encouragement & your concern/compassion

a lot of life-long abductees learn to 'dissociate' -- i think that's the term -- to disconnect from our emotions -- i have no desire to be regressed & remember all of , or more of, my abductions -- they seem to follow patterns, anyway, abductions -- the Greys have one MO/pattern & the Reptilians another , w/some variation, but not much, w/both [only those of the Light & Love are creative]

if i thought my remembering would help others, i would endure the trauma -- there's only one experience i had that i'd liked to be regressed for -- & only w/someone i TRUST

very glad to have met you , Tonton -- if you're ever in the States, pls come visit

wyn

Posted by tonton (here)

Hi Tonton -- the Hopi Elders advise us not to take anything personally at this time -- i wrote in another thread that i am dealing w/my abductions on a personal level -- it's a fact of my life -- what concerns me is the implications for Humanity as a whole w/these abductions

wynderer ,you know that i meant to always try to analyze from a distance,an experience or a memory, as if you were looking at someone else,with distance. our personal feelings hurt us with memories that hurt us. with all that you have been going through, you have time to worry for humanity.!you are such a powerful person.
i can tell you one thing , you have helped me, with your strength to continue and truth.there is now one human that is starting to see.

[moonchild]

Posted by wynderer (here)
this reminds me of Dan Burisch -- i think he was the first Project Camelot interviewee? he helped a Grey-like being, caught & held by the military, to get free

the Grey being said he came from the future -- that Humans had become Greys in the future -- i have wondered if the Reptilians genetically turn all their conquered races into Greys as they expand their empire

I remember watching a movie with that exact story line!!! It was 2 guys who helped the grey escape, I'll try to find it!

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by moonchild (here)

Posted by wynderer (here)
this reminds me of Dan Burisch -- i think he was the first Project Camelot interviewee? he helped a Grey-like being, caught & held by the military, to get free

the Grey being said he came from the future -- that Humans had become Greys in the future -- i have wondered if the Reptilians genetically turn all their conquered races into Greys as they expand their empire

I remember watching a movie with that exact story line!!! It was 2 guys who helped the grey escape, I'll try to find it!

Yes, the JROD story. I remember that one.

[tonton]

Re: Abduction by Reptilian
thank you, Tonton, for your words of encouragement & your concern/compassion

a lot of life-long abductees learn to 'dissociate' -- i think that's the term -- to disconnect from our emotions -- i have no desire to be regressed & remember all of , or more of, my abductions -- they seem to follow patterns, anyway, abductions -- the Greys have one MO/pattern & the Reptilians another , w/some variation, but not much, w/both [only those of the Light & Love are creative]

if i thought my remembering would help others, i would endure the trauma -- there's only one experience i had that i'd liked to be regressed for -- & only w/someone i TRUST

very glad to have met you , Tonton -- if you're ever in the States, pls come visit

wyn


un abrazo fuerte,and yes if can overcome the thought of ever going to the states , it would be a pleasure.

[wynderer]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Yea, your reaction to my photo is almot word for word what Aaron said. This is some really weird stuff... I will need to digest some of this as all of what you said strikes way to close to home. Literally... I will get back to you. Lets do the rest of this via personal email. All I know is that I took a stand and found a way to fight in a way that they have mostly left me alone the last 8 or so years accept for being observed from a close distance... strangely aboutt he same amount of years as my daughter has been born (Yipes). She is EXTREMELY Empathic and very psychic... she reads animals and animals that people say to be careful with come up to her and show love to her. She is very special... my one year old son is very similar from what I have seen so far. Anyway. Give me some time and I will open up more. In the mean time someone else needs our assistance. You probably have seen his post. I struck me in a strong way. Check out vansak who posted: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-is-in-effect
TY...

Corey -- i found this on Alara Blackwell's blog -- a MILAB
http://alarablackwell.wordpress.com/
there's a video interview w/her posted on the forum:

I’ve met two people so far that say they might know me and I felt like I knew them. As soon as I met them in person, I didn’t know who they were. Which means, that’s right, energetic interference and manipulation.

I will say, emotions and memories are valid for the person remembering them, planted or real, because even planted memories will seem real enough and still cause emotional turmoil. I can only hope everyone can be free of the anger and fear, and move past it. So I can’t judge anyone, this is a rough time for all of us.

[wynderer]

below is a clip from Houman's Archon thread, post #180 --

By the way, for alien abductees, Malanga reports that you’re never abducted just once or twice. Instead, you’re abducted on a regular basis over your lifetime… from birth, while alien interferences start in the womb. And, if you’ve been abducted, then most likely it has also been happening to others in your immediate family, as well as in your parents’ immediate families, in their parents’ immediate families before that, and so on. In other words, abductions are generational, just like alien (demon) interference. And, if you’re experiencing interference, then you may also be having abductions that you cannot recall.

[wynderer]

just change some of the Human faces while watching into current heads of state



a music video

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvacBPpYFw

[wynderer]

from today's UFO Digest ---
http://www.ufodigest.com/article/abd...ed-her-beliefs

Submitted by Kay Wilson on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 14:46
How My Beliefs Have Changed

2012 Updated note to the reader

Since I originally wrote this article, my feelings concerning this subject have changed. To be succinct: You cannot "pray away" the aliens. If one looks deeply enough at our history, they will realize that organized religions are nothing more than mind and behavioral control tools: conditioned forms of mental slavery. Furthermore, we have to face the fact that extra-terrestrials and/or interdimensional Beings have been interacting with humanity since humanity itself came into existence.


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"The idea of a Supreme Being who creates a world in which one creature is designed to eat another in order to subsist, and then passes a law saying, 'Thou shalt not kill,' is so monstrously, immeasurably, bottomlessly absurd that I am at a loss to understand how mankind has entertained or given it a house room all this long." - Peter De Vries


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The original article begins here: It is difficult to be succinct when discussing the topic of alien abductions or religion, but to bring the two subjects together in the same article is quite a task, not to mention controversial. The reason I am writing this is because I am often asked how my beliefs have changed since I began my investigation into the abduction phenomenon ten years ago in 1987. This article is my attempt to answer a question I have put off answering for quite some time.

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[wynderer]

Phil Schneider gave his life to get this info out

from the thread re Human mutilations by ETs [or EDs ?] - from the well trained & experienced investigator of the mutilations -- he said they try to keep abduction stories quiet as much as they do the mutilation cases

thanks for posting this, KiwiElf

wyn

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
Hi GalaxyHorse,

I started a thread last year on Phil Schneider here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...chneider-Story

Other readers added some great videos, and Jackovesk recently put one up here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Phil-Schneider

All adds to the cross index of information - enjoy!

[wynderer]

i found this on abductee support group site -- i agree w/her selection of books , & would add Jim Marrs' 'Alien Agenda' also

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.First, the information to read/view and then cross-reference are as follows: David Jacobs PhD’s two books “The Threat: Revealing the Alien Secret Agenda” and “Secret Life: Firsthand, Documented Accounts of UFO Abductions”; the Dan Sherman book “Above Black: Project Preserve Destiny Insider Account of Alien Contact & Government Cover-up”; and lastly on Youtube, view the Project Camelot Dan Burisch interviews.

Then sit down and compare all of this material and see what you come up with. The most intriguing thing to me is the (ex-military officer) Dan Sherman information about how he recorded abduction information including latitude/longitude coordinates of abductions, information about pain experienced by the abductee, the potentiality for recall by the abductee, the date, and the abductee’s assigned number.
And this was recorded by Dan (and others in the military who held these work assignments before and after him) for the military.

…..So to make a long story short and make some of the comparisons for the readers here (and please, examine the info for yourselves with a critical state of mind), Dan Burisch’s work with Maj12 shows that the US govt made an agreement with the beings that they could abduct a certain number of US citizens (and apparently all of their offspring i.e. children, grandchildren) and use them for the agreed-upon genetic work (includes breeding program) as long as they stayed within certain boundaries and reported the abductions and abductees to the military….

[wynderer]

re the fluorescence found on abductees:

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Fluorescence
According to Webster the term ‘fluorescence’ refers to the property of a substance emitting light after absorbing it.

Such fluorescence is sometimes present in alien abduction cases. Markings that fluoresce have appeared on the skin of abductees. The marks emit light (glow) after they are exposed to a black light (ultra-violet light).

In 1992, Derrel W. Sims and his medical & scientific team first began documenting the appearance of these fluorescent markings on the skin of several human beings who reported having alien encounters.

As his work progressed, he and the team noted that individuals appeared to receive the fluorescent markings via two methods:

Procedural contact
Casual contact
Further study defined these categories as follows:

Procedural Contact, where the medical-like activities of the alleged alien left corresponding fluorescent marks.
Casual contact, where the alien touches the abducted person and leaves a fluorescent mark.
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http://www.operationaliendna.com/fluorescence/

[wynderer]

my good-bye gift to you all

watch just the first few minutes & learn why most abductees are silent, & why all i've talked to have never found a forum -- including Avalon -- where they feel comfortable in sharing

someone wants us to be quiet, to the point of programming your minds to disbelieve us , while channelings & Humans who tell us about the good ETs --doing light & orb shows ,etc-- get a whole lot of attention--

you might all ask yourselves, 'Why?'

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fSCzT0yzI

[Zebra]

I hope you see one day the hand that has been extended to you on this forum, time and again, by many - including myself Wynderer.

I would say a good percentage of people here are decent, open folk who want to know more and also have a genuine commitment to supporting people who are prepared to share their stories. A lot of people on here are also abductees, or experiencers.

You are not alone, or special in this regard. I would like to ask you how you think we can participate in your enquiry? Not just what you want to tell us.

Is that not the point of being part of a forum? To engage each other, to seek answers, to find greater understanding?

I also disagree with you about any popularity rating on threads between negative and positive ET experiences. I see huge threads dedicated to some very uncomfortable information on this forum. HUGE. That tells me that many people give their attention to this darker side. So, I don´t think you can go tilting the figures on that account.

Now, I just want to be myself right now, not mince words and what I am going to say is with well meaning and good heart.

I honour you for your sharp mind and the great deal of knowledge and experience that you have to offer. I want you to take care, and I want you to lighten up a bit. Life is to be enjoyed as well. So, I wish for you this: to start seeing the humanity that comes your way, instead of kicking it away.

Be kinder to yourself.
Best wishes,
Zebra

[Eram]

Hi wynderer,

I understand that you are leaving this forum, due to other things you want to do.
I just wanted to thank you for everything you shared with us.
It was only yesterday that I read this thread and it moved me a lot.
It also widened my perspective on this whole abduction scene that is happening on this planet.

There are so many things I would like to say but I'll just keep it short and say:
Thank you and I wish you all the best!

best wishes,

Waky

[wynderer]

great idea, Zebra -- i hereby hand this thread over to you , for other abductees to tell their stories [what little most of us remember] -- why not start w/yourself?

[edit to add] since 'Reptilian' is the thread title, a further suggestion: Why not focus on abductions/other 1st-hand stories of personal meetings w/Reptilians? -- the abductions by the Greys are for the sheeple --

good luck, wyn

Posted by Zebra (here)
I hope you see one day the hand that has been extended to you on this forum, time and again, by many - including myself Wynderer.

I would say a good percentage of people here are decent, open folk who want to know more and also have a genuine commitment to supporting people who are prepared to share their stories. A lot of people on here are also abductees, or experiencers.

You are not alone, or special in this regard. I would like to ask you how you think we can participate in your enquiry? Not just what you want to tell us.

Is that not the point of being part of a forum? To engage each other, to seek answers, to find greater understanding?

I also disagree with you about any popularity rating on threads between negative and positive ET experiences. I see huge threads dedicated to some very uncomfortable information on this forum. HUGE. That tells me that many people give their attention to this darker side. So, I don´t think you can go tilting the figures on that account.

Now, I just want to be myself right now, not mince words and what I am going to say is with well meaning and good heart.

I honour you for your sharp mind and the great deal of knowledge and experience that you have to offer. I want you to take care, and I want you to lighten up a bit. Life is to be enjoyed as well. So, I wish for you this: to start seeing the humanity that comes your way, instead of kicking it away.

Be kinder to yourself.
Best wishes,
Zebra

[wynderer]

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