Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[aranuk]

Posted by Alie (here)
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Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12

Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark

There's no sound Alie

Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by Alie (here)
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Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12



Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark

Great information (but Is he stoned, drunk or both?) Thanks for the heads-up Alie

Maybe high on RNA drops he is always recommending.

Stan

[YvonneG]

Stan, I am listening just fine. Maybe you don't have your sound :-)

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And this is big...James is validating a lot.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

The more this goes on the more it is mirroring Lawful rebellion in Briton [sic].
There are those within certain well established nationalist circles that have stated these rebellion organisations throughout the world are nothing more than honeypots set up by the likes of [whomever].

These groups are not just honeypots for data havesting, but are also designed to disable any & all cries for Independence.

[YvonneG]

Alie...thanks for this and keep reminding us of James Martinez...I forget to check

[aranuk]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
Stan, I am listening just fine. Maybe you don't have your sound :-)

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And this is big...James is validating a lot.

You were right. I had the sound turned off.

Silly Stan

[YvonneG]

...a few tidbits from James:

National Media is going to die...they won't be dictated anymore...It's going to be taken over.
I was in the meeting involving this...

We have spiritual warfare going on.

People behind the scenes getting ready for something substantial to happen and it's happening right now and it is massive...

Wallstreet is like a computer game now...there is nothing.
Some people working with biggest banks...it is a show now...

Wow what a ride this interview...a must listen in my book!

[Carmody]

Snake oil salesmen were always on the move. They did this in an atmosphere and environment of very low inter-county and interstate communication.

in this way, they always had a new audience.

they would find the local shill, and then hire them, clandestinely, to quantify or promote the efficacy of the product to the local crowd, when the time came.

In this way, the one single starting point could lead a large group of people into believing in the reality of their desires being fulfilled.

In that way, the snake oil salesman could use psychology to get an entire crowd to believe in their own dreams to the point that the entire crowd bought their own dream, from the snake oil salesman.

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I could go into a workplace, start walking through it then run though it, screaming about some madman with a gun and.... run out the backdoor, by kicking it open.

Almost every single person in the building - would follow me.

Psychology is an interesting thing.

Know thyself.

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And then...maybe, just maybe, you might be able to discern when the next internet hero appears on the scene by pulling himself out of his own ass.

For thousands of years, this game scenario has not changed.

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False stories are good, for they raise awareness in the potential group. False stories are bad as they create apathy from overexposure.

Everyone must elevate themselves into being a sharing group, but as individuals.

Awareness as a form of overall individual but group rising, is key. But one must not move into being a hive mind, a follower, a herd animal. That is the part that needs to be shed. To read the paper and sip coffee while others die, is not the aim. To run in a crowd, not knowing what exactly is going on or who is driving, is another mistake.

You must be an aware and responding individual, but capable of working with others, to question all, closely, but still be able to work in a group. Herding cats, it is. How does one step into clear headed growth and individual response in a coherent group, without becoming or remaining as an unchanging and zero growth herd animal?

Regardless of what I hear from anyone, about anything, I continue forward with my individual aspects and designs that help others.

I formed a plan and got on with it, and I WILL continue no matter what I read about anything, or what anyone says or does.

Pay attention to this 'new kid on the block', this arrival out of nowhere, all you want.

But if you are not moving forward on your own -before this, during this, and after this -----then... you are the fool.

[Ishtar]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Everyone must elevate themselves into being a sharing group, but as individuals.

Awareness as a form of overall individual but group rising, is key. But one must not move into being a hive mind, a follower, a herd animal. That is the part that needs to be shed. To read the paper and sip coffee while others die, is not the aim. To run in a crowd, not knowing what exactly is going on or who is driving, is another mistake.

You must be an aware and responding individual, but capable of working with others, to question all, closely, but still be able to work in a group.

This of Carmody's has got to win the best post of the week award, surely?

We are being manipulated into a fake grass roots rebellion which is top down, rather than from the bottom up ~ not one stemming from each individual's growing awareness and self-realisation but a coup carried out by a top echelon of people we don't even know. They see us as a hive that they are goading from behind, in the same way that they did to the so-called rebel fighters first in Libya and now in Syria, for the fake Arab Spring ~ to make it look like a grass roots rebellion, when it isn't.

I'm a spiritual teacher and I teach the self-empowerment of the individual. I believe that's how change will happen, naturally, at the level of the individual and from the inside out. When more are self-empowered than not, there will be a tipping point and no-one will be able to stop that change any more than they can stop grass growing up between paving slabs. And that's a real grass roots revolution.

Here's how I believe the change we want will happen:

If there is enlightenment within our hearts
There will be enlightenment within the home.
If there is enlightenment within the home
There will be enlightenment within the community.
If there is enlightenment within the community,
There will be enlightenment within the cities.
If there is enlightenment within the cities,
There will be enlightenment within the nations.
If there is enlightenment within the nations,
There will be enlightenment in the world.

It starts in the individual heart and proceeds outwards holographically from there into the community and so on.

Don't listen to those who say 'the energy wants it' ~ like 'the energy' would have an opinion on a change of government. That is ridiculous. That is like saying "We have God on our side". The old men always tell the young boys that when they send them into the carnage. The energy is not separate to us ... it doesn't have a will of its own, separate to ours. It is made of Unconditional Love as are we ...that's the image that we are made in and the aim of human life is to realise that. That is enlightenment.

We are getting closer to more and more people realising that, and to that tipping point, every day. But we are not there yet, in my opinion, and the amount of bloodshed it will take to change who governs us will not get us any closer to it.

I could hear the bloodlust in Drake's voice last night as he talked about the guillotine. The man is looking forward to death and violence and revenge. There is not a question in my mind about it.

[Referee]

Hey there is a drill that will take place near or at the Denver Airport with the Russian military. Could this be the kickoff event? What a place to start and the use of Joint forces, Did you listen to Putins remarks at that conferance he spoke at recently he slammed the west and warned them?
1:40 mark

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nE_Qnk8zvI

Another article This one goes on to say the troops will be at the Denver Airport nad the new NSA central hub in Utah WOW!!!!


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/repo...e-on-u-s-soil/

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Everyone must elevate themselves into being a sharing group, but as individuals.

Awareness as a form of overall individual but group rising, is key. But one must not move into being a hive mind, a follower, a herd animal. That is the part that needs to be shed. To read the paper and sip coffee while others die, is not the aim. To run in a crowd, not knowing what exactly is going on or who is driving, is another mistake.

You must be an aware and responding individual, but capable of working with others, to question all, closely, but still be able to work in a group.

This of Carmody's has got to win the best post of the week award, surely?

We are being manipulated into a fake grass roots rebellion which is top down, rather than from the bottom up ~ not one stemming from each individual's growing awareness and self-realisation but a coup carried out by a top echelon of people we don't even know. They see us as a hive that they are goading from behind, in the same way that they did to the so-called rebel fighters first in Libya and now in Syria, for the fake Arab Spring ~ to make it look like a grass roots rebellion, when it isn't.

I'm a spiritual teacher and I teach the self-empowerment of the individual. I believe that's how change will happen, naturally, at the level of the individual and from the inside out. When more are self-empowered than not, there will be a tipping point and no-one will be able to stop that change any more than they can stop grass growing up between paving slabs. And that's a real grass roots revolution.

Here's how I believe the change we want will happen:

If there is enlightenment within our hearts
There will be enlightenment within the home.
If there is enlightenment within the home
There will be enlightenment within the community.
If there is enlightenment within the community,
There will be enlightenment within the cities.
If there is enlightenment within the cities,
There will be enlightenment within the nations.
If there is enlightenment within the nations,
There will be enlightenment in the world.

It starts in the individual heart and proceeds outwards holographically from there into the community and so on.

Don't listen to those who say 'the energy wants it' ~ like 'the energy' would have an opinion on a change of government. That is ridiculous. That is like saying "We have God on our side". The old men always tell the young boys that when they send them into the carnage. The energy is not separate to us ... it doesn't have a will of its own, separate to ours. It is made of Unconditional Love as are we ...that's the image that we are made in and the aim of human life is to realise that. That is enlightenment.

We are getting closer to more and more people realising that, and to that tipping point, every day. But we are not there yet, in my opinion, and the amount of bloodshed it will take to change who governs us will not get us any closer to it.

I could hear the bloodlust in Drake's voice last night as he talked about the guillotine. The man is looking forward to death and violence and revenge. There is not a question in my mind about it.

Ishtar you are wrong. Carmody's post is very good, but your post is the best of the week! Well done.

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May is almost here. We are in for a huge event and the more news that surfaces seems to point to a perfect storm. Russian troops on our soil should be a warning sign to all. Keep your powder dry if you are of that mindset. Stock up what you can, and for those of my brothers and sisters, I say seek the Lord while he may be found. Time is short.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
May is almost here. We are in for a huge event and the more news that surfaces seems to point to a perfect storm.

You talking about the eclipse on May 20th, and the 16 days between this eclipse and the grand cross?

[Unified Serenity]

Actually Grip... i can call you grip can't I? Anyway, I was just about to extend my search for historic dates, the alignments and the meaning of various days in May and solstices. I welcome all input .

[Avocadess]

Back to notes -- this is part 2 from April 26, 2012 radio show -- Drake and Deatra with Randy Maugans -- notes from 39 minutes into show an onwards:

Drake talked about when you have a snafu situation in the military...people are in the foxhole praying...that is a snafu situation. The banks are not being asked but being required to pay back the monies that they don't HAVE to pay back. We are seeing this first in Europe because Rothschild had to be hit first. Rockefeller and the Bushes here in U.S. are the next target.

Iceland said to the banks, "uh-uh (no)....and they forgave all the mortgages." So what does the bank do at this point? Some are trying to hide.

There are about 20 other countries interested in following the procedure that Drake et al. has used to free their own countries.

Randy asked about the borders between U.S. and Canada and Mexico. "Are we concerned about troops coming through those borders" who are enemies to the people? Drake said no, that is not a concern. He explained about limitations to their agreements. (I didn't understand well enough this part.)

Drake spoke again of divine intervention that David Wilcock has written about where when troops on BOTH sides were ordered to fire -- and on BOTH sides there was just "click, click." This was "divine intervention" in Drake's words, where tanks won't start, ballistic missile system won't work, etc.

Randy spoke of John Kettler and telling Drake that Kettler supports Drake and Kettler affirms that Drake et al. are being supported by ETs/EDs.

Drake spoke of "mentioning to ETs" to maybe start taking care of chemtrails in ways that no one else can. The following day Drake got a report in an email where a UFO following a plane was gobbling up the chemtrail. The plane continued to pull out the chemtrail, and ended up where it "went down." The UFO hovered a few minutes and then disappeared. (Drake did not make clear where or how he communicated to ETs and admits there MAY be no connection to his suggestion and that happening.) I take it that Drake TRUSTS there are helpful ETs/Angels but has NOT had personal up-close experience.

Drake talked about the movie THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL and all that happened in that show was the electricity was turned off about 10 minutes. Said he is looking forward to meeting ETs.

Randy asked if disclosure will be a part of all this. Drake's understanding is that the intervention will be "selective" and not be extraordinarily highly publicized until they have introduced themselves. Drake also said that then these beings will be working to help us come to the level they are at.

Randy asked if it is possible that the mass arrest plan has been surveilled by time travel, remote viewing, etc. Drake said he knows it has been and mentioned Operation Looking Glass...."apparently this is real from everything I can deduce." "The first evidence of ETs that we can put our hands on started back in the '30s." "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to reverse engineer something."

Drake talked about the lost ark in the Indiana Jones movie. He said that should give some people some idea as to what is REAL. Those actual warehouses do exist.

The idea of the new government is to be fully transparent in everything that is done. Drake thinks that is a pretty cool idea. It gives Joe Public (my term, not his) a say. A government by and for the People.

Drake said, "I have heard they are going to have a learning channel...that is going to repeat certain things"....including about extraordinary technology such as what we have seen on Star Trek. Channel will give overview of the next sessions so people have a chance to think about it.

Randy asked about Americans arresting citizens of other countries who are in other countries and will they really be arrested. Drake believes that 99% of the criminals will get arrested. Basically countries are going to try to clean up their own messes. Interpol may be used. It will be effected on local levels PRIMARILY. Localization is very critical. "Banks steal from you legally....having something legal does not make it lawful."

Drake talked about "conspiracy theories" propagated by our government: the war on drugs; the war on terror. "If you can look, you will find that very shortly after 9/11" there was a document of thousands of pages mysteriously appeared that weighed several pounds. "ALEC" produced that paperwork before 9/11 ever happened, and George Bush knew about it at least six months before. Drake knows a person who was party to him and the action, which is why he says thi

Drake said, "When you kill a million people...that person needs to be execution." He said there might be hangings, firing squads, electric chair, etc. for such people. Maybe even a guillotine. [I personally don't enjoy this kind of talk and have abbreviated it further...though I can understand how he feels. -- Avocadess] Drake would love to interrogate some of these people personally. He says he knows how to make people talk without damaging them.

Randy brought up treaties signed by U.S. Presidents in the past in alignment with NATO, etc. Drake said in that particular aspect (I assume he means NATO) the President will have to be signatory to a document sent to each party of the treaty agreements and by executive order to rescind the treaty, and break all relations -- including diplomatic if necessary. This would be done in a formal manner. Then we can reestablish diplomatic relations without the treaty.

Randy asked about the National Security Act of 1947. Drake responded, "Trash. Trash. The TSA along with it. The IRS along with it. A lot of alphabet agencies that are not going to exist any longer."

Randy asked about Zionists and liberation of Gaza and funding that has gone to Israel in the billions. Drake said that in terms of zionism to go online and punch in zionist communist and you will find that the same organization Hitler dealt with is still in place and very active. As far as any influence of what goes on in this country....anything adverse to our founding documents, if they don't have a home country they need to pick one -- or they will get life (in prison I suppose he means).

Randy asked about millions of evangelical Christians. Drake said there is a problem with animosities of different religiosities. He referred to how approx. 8000 B.C. you will find they were referring to ancient documents which span millions of years, which at one point was a singular belief system. Each person that goes to church picks the one they are most comfortable with. There are so many! Each individual has their own personal belief. Drake believes a lot of this old documentation will be clarified in the future (though this is part of Drake et al.'s efforts). He spoke of how religions have been USED to create strife for profit. There are common sensical answers to 99% of what is going on. "With the population we have got...it would be a good idea to learn how to simply apply the Golden Rule -- do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Martin Luther King, Jr. used to have barbecues in Drake's backyard. Kids at school would paint him black. His own friends could not understand how a white guy could like a black guy. Drake's grandfather had an orchard. Drake gave some black people permission to get fruit from his prejudiced grandfather's orchard. At first his grandfather was very upset that Drake gave a black person permission to get that fruit. His grandfather had a talk to Drake about it...(I didn't quite catch whether Drake was able to get through to his racist grandfather. - Avocadess)

Randy talked about alleged AI satellite systems in existence as well as underground bases of negative off-planet entities and asked if these issues were being addressed as well. Drake said yes in that the action has to not be interfered with. The negative entities were already at odds with those who are ETs helping us. They (the good and bad ETs) recently had some "battles" of their own and the bad guys have pretty well already lost. Drake has been told that the angels can create a vortex and suck everything out of a place -- furniture, people, whatever. He gave a funny report of the good ETs being name-called "tree hugging hippies from space" that are not supposed to "intervene." Drake said if you check out the underground bases you will find the door open and nothing is there anymore. Explosions were involved in that. "Go and see for yourself." "The Southwest is loaded with them." "You won't find any guards."

Drake repeated that he has been trusted and made privy to a lot of information and is trusted and been asked to make these broadcasts.

Randy spoke of the mis-perception of some people that Drake is telling people to just sit and watch TV and not do anything. Drake said, "Okay. We've got enough problems with Joe Six-Pack on the couch....The problem is this. It's called awareness. If people don't understand that there is a problem in terms of the government coming out with regulations day after day telling you that you cannot grow your own food -- and I'm serious about this -- that you cannot have a garden, that you cannot pick the food that you eat....and tell you that if you have a weed that they consider noxious and they don't like it they can take your property and/or fine you exorbitant amounts -- things of this nature -- if they don't think that's a problem, then go back to sleep. However, for all of those who think that might be a problem, or that the government has become too invasive in your life, I would suggest that you start localizing. And the way that you do that is you start asking around to people that you know. Now, there is a problem with that. How many people know their neighbors? If you don't, you're slacking. Get off your whatever and go talk to the neighbors, 'Hey, I live next door. How's it going?' and go from there, see where it leads. Eventually you will get around to the point of several things: growing your garden as an example. Whether somebody likes it or not as an example. Okay. If a federal agent comes up and says, 'I'm going to plow up your garden. You are not allowed to do that' and it's just you that is sort of an even-steven kind of thing. But when a neighbor, or maybe two or three shows up with their shotguns and say, 'We don't think so', that changes things."

Drake then gave an example of Ruidoso, New Mexico standing up to the federal government. The Sheriff asked for support and the local militia showed up with 130-some people. Then the feds decided it was time to go eat lunch somewhere. They have not been back and none of the things that they said were going to transpire happened. "So there are a lot of us, and few of them. There are varying ways to handle this. Generally -- and I'm saying generally -- right now the power base has been extraordinarily eroded. This is something everybody has to understand. Just like the Mafia used to be able to reach out and make people a deal they couldn't refuse, the [so-called] bad guys in this country can do the same. There is a problem with that. You have got to be able to pay the guy to go do it. And they are running out of money and their money has been limited -- and they owe it to somebody. So everybody is trying to figure out what to do next. Do that question again and I'll give another take on it."

Randy responded that Drake already went to the place where he had wanted it to go,"which was mobilizing locally and being proactive, because people have a tendency in a time of change to feel helpless. I watched this with 9/11, I watched as people stood by and became depressed or angry seeing what happened with 9/11. How do we connect with those who are part of local networks that may be a part of the loop that you (Drake) are currently in? How do we identify people? Is there a way to do that organizationally?"

Drake said, "Well, first of all, you get 2 or 3 people together, you start talking about it. You talk to somebody that lives 5, 6, 8 miles away and get them to do the same. I have been in touch with a majority of militias and underground groups, as far as my reach goes, and I would suggest U.S. militia if somebody wants to see if there is a militia group in their area, and there are varying other ones. You can put militia in and doe a search for your state. A lot of the times you will find that militia doesn't exist anymore. The gun club does. Okay?"

Drake continued, "What's happened in varying states is that at one point the bad guys got scared, so they did major sweeps in different states and took out a whole load of people that were not doing anything wrong at all. The Hootery (sp?) group was just recently exonerated of any and all crimes because the FBI stooge that they stuck in there was the guy with the plan showing them how to make explosives. He was also the guy who was telling them that they should go blow up government buildings, maybe shoot a politician. So you have to remember that these things eventually are beginning to actually come out and come out correctly. It was Michigan, I believe, the Hootery group. You have got these people all over the place who have political clubs, and they might not be anything near what you think they are. It may be a book club. You don't know..." The only way to find out is to show that you are a Patriot. "You talk to some of these hillbillies, rednecks, and if you say the word government or politician basically the blood vessels pop out," etc. Then he suggested suggesting getting people together to buddy up to be able to help one another.

"The localization, in terms of the importance of it, is astronomical....Individuals in that state need to" oversee who is in office where and who needs to be replaced, etc. People so honest if is painful to be around them, "that's your candidate."

Randy asked about voting polling places and the current voting laws that go back to the 14th Amendment. Who may vote and where would they vote? "If somebody has voted before, they are grandfathered in."

Randy said that he does not currently vote and has not for 11 years. Asked if he would be able to vote. Drake said that somewhere is a record that he has voted. Drake is on record as voting from the state he came from quite a few years ago. As far as registration: you have voted in the last election, or have a utility bill with your address on it, that sort of thing. You just need proof that you live in the area basically. This has been the standard practice for years. One of the things they are doing with ID validation is utility bills. (I wonder about people with roommates whose names are not on the utility bill -- Avocadess)

Randy asked about straw man accounts. Drake said that money is being illegally leveraging money through those account and that is not legal. "You can't have two things in the same place at the same time or it explodes." Drake doesn't mind a birth certificate validating the date you were born, but take off the marks that indicate the straw man. This would be part of doing the dishes in terms of housecleaning. Drake referred again to common law.

Anything found to be contrary to the Constitution will be stricken, according to Drake's understanding....

"We are dealing right now with monarchy law in terms of the straw man." Mentioned about the Bar being tied in with English monarchy.

Randy asked about the Pope stepping down and the Vatican itself being taken down and the impact in terms of the Jesuit influence on our power structure. Drake said that people will have a choice of leaving or "live in a FEMA camp" who are involved in all that. "The Pope...resigning" not only because of the known crime. The Pope is going to be prosecuted just like the bankers for crimes. Some crimes -- and it varies -- are worse than others.... Drake is not sure how some of that will come out. The more severe the crime in terms of numbers and the reasons will determine whether or not these people are executed. Talked about things he saw in Vietnam that "pretty much ruined me" and these things are going on now, and it's not a war zone. This was above and beyond what that ever will come close to. What will come out shortly, in terms of service to a church or individual using God's name to take money is to Drake unconscionable. "You do not go out of your way to crush the head of innocence...or cause babies pain because you think it is fun to hear them holler..." "There used to be honor among thieves."

"You think the war is over and then they start in on you...tell you that you don't have benefits...it goes on and on."

Randy asked if we will see South-African-style councils of truth and reconciliation regarding these high crimes against humanity.

Drake suggests there will be that and more. Those people will first be put in a custody situation. Drake again stated he believes there will be a fairly large number of executions....and that these people have tombstones in their eyes, who have "sold their souls," etc.

Randy asked if there are media defectors who will be access points as this program breaks out. Drake repeated that we are not a "group" without a leader and no place to go. "In terms of breaching into mainstream media, that is just now beginning." Some of the efforts are being objected to by some in alternative media. Yes, it is beginning, but no it has not quite reached there yet.... He said that apparently CBS has broken from the cabal, and he said they are not yet in-depth but actually reporting something for a change....

Talked about Peace Officers making sure everything is cool (not shoot first and ask questions later, etc.). He advises all militia groups not to be quick to pull the trigger. Check what is going on first. Shooting can be justified in certain circumstances; killing is not....except in self-defense.

"The lives we have lived to this point are due to come through some major changes." Drake encourages local militia to contact the local Sheriff. [After sussing out that he IS Constitutional], then give him your SUPPORT.

Randy thanked Drake. He knows a lot of people are cynical about the character and nature of people in this country and asks if we deserve to be free after we have let things go as far as they have. Drake said, "I think we are. I think a lot of people need to just simply wake up"...."George Washington made the first executive order so to speak...with the federal districting....There are a lot of things that have been done that are not right....quoted Franking, "A Republic, if you can keep it."

Randy asked if Drake has a program in place to provide scoffers and cynics some hard evidence. Drake said the 12 central banks were liened. He is seeing about getting official documents that won't give things away but also show validity to what he is saying. After the sweeps we will be given the green light to get on all the news stations available and especially on the Internet. They are intending to invite the press to "public arrests." "To be part of the rebirth of a nation is totally awesome....is grateful to those who trust him" to the extent that he is being used as a spokesperson.

Randy had no more questions to ask and encouraged people to listen to him again because it is easy to miss things and appeals to people to be less cynical.

That was pretty much it. Deatra was saying something after this where the sound quality went totally wonky...

[gripreaper]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Actually Grip... i can call you grip can't I? Anyway, I was just about to extend my search for historic dates, the alignments and the meaning of various days in May and solstices. I welcome all input .

Yes, you can call me grip. Grip is what we sow as our beliefs, and "reaper" is that we reap what we sow.

And yes, the eclipse on May 20th 2012, for the first time in 26,000 years, our Sun and Moon and the Mystic Pleiades will align in a spectacular total Solar Eclipse directly over one of the most powerful, mysterious spiritual vortexes in the world: the mighty Mt. Shasta!

The cardinal Grand Cross in June, leading up to the summer solstice, aligns the 5 outer planets in a way we have not seen for a very long time as well, and this alignment challenges everything we think we know and believe.

So, needless to say, the universe is vibrating frequencies we have not dealt with in a very long time, and the next couple of months should be very interesting.

[Vivek]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Snake oil salesmen were always on the move. They did this in an atmosphere and environment of very low inter-county and interstate communication.

in this way, they always had a new audience.

they would find the local shill, and then hire them, clandestinely, to quantify or promote the efficacy of the product to the local crowd, when the time came.

In this way, the one single starting point could lead a large group of people into believing in the reality of their desires being fulfilled.

In that way, the snake oil salesman could use psychology to get an entire crowd to believe in their own dreams to the point that the entire crowd bought their own dream, from the snake oil salesman.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

I could go into a workplace, start walking through it then run though it, screaming about some madman with a gun and.... run out the backdoor, by kicking it open.

Almost every single person in the building - would follow me.

Psychology is an interesting thing.

Know thyself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

And then...maybe, just maybe, you might be able to discern when the next internet hero appears on the scene by pulling himself out of his own ass.

For thousands of years, this game scenario has not changed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

False stories are good, for they raise awareness in the potential group. False stories are bad as they create apathy from overexposure.

Everyone must elevate themselves into being a sharing group, but as individuals.

Awareness as a form of overall individual but group rising, is key. But one must not move into being a hive mind, a follower, a herd animal. That is the part that needs to be shed. To read the paper and sip coffee while others die, is not the aim. To run in a crowd, not knowing what exactly is going on or who is driving, is another mistake.

You must be an aware and responding individual, but capable of working with others, to question all, closely, but still be able to work in a group. Herding cats, it is. How does one step into clear headed growth and individual response in a coherent group, without becoming or remaining as an unchanging and zero growth herd animal?

Regardless of what I hear from anyone, about anything, I continue forward with my individual aspects and designs that help others.

I formed a plan and got on with it, and I WILL continue no matter what I read about anything, or what anyone says or does.

Pay attention to this 'new kid on the block', this arrival out of nowhere, all you want.

But if you are not moving forward on your own -before this, during this, and after this -----then... you are the fool.

Has anybody read "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke? It contains several themes and motifs that are extremely relevant - not only to what you are talking about, but also to ET intervention, the serpent/dragon/reptilian symbology, ascension, etc etc

In Childhood's End, the Overlords use their technology to achieve both these ends. The vast technological superiority of the Overlords apparently knows no bounds. They can spy on anything that happens on the surface; they can project artificial copies of their ships so convincing that they even make a sound as they enter the atmosphere; they can inflict pain without causing a wound; they can block out the sun over specific geographic areas; and they can alter a planet's gravity, to list just a few of their powers. They also have the Stardrive, which lets them fly their ships at the speed of light.

...On Earth, the Overlords use this technological power to exert benevolent but totalitarian rule. They create a utopia on Earth through what Karellen calls a "correct use of power." "Correct" in his idea means "efficient"...

... Karellen does not address Stormgren's true objection: that regardless of how efficient the Overlords' use of their "might" is, they are still determining what is "right." As the existence of groups such as the Freedom League reveals, not everyone on Earth believes that the Overlords' efforts to create a utopia are what is right for humanity.

...While the main concepts of Childhood's End revolve around the irony of the Overlords as benevolent masters that look like "devils" and the division between technological and evolutionary achievement, the book also deals heavily with the possible problems of a utopian society. Before we are even aware that the Overlords have started making beneficial changes to the Earth's economic and political systems, we are introduced to the Freedom League, composed of humans who object to the Overlords' meddling in human affairs. The Freedom League does not object to the policies of the Overlords, it objects to the Overlords' very presence.

...But aside from addressing the practical—and perhaps rather obvious—problems of utopian society, Childhood's End also presents a rather problematic situation. Evolution works primarily by isolating those more fit to survive; the weak die, leaving the strong and the adaptable. But as the standard of living is raised across the globe, as even the lazy are allowed to live out their lives with the basic necessities, there is none of this weeding out process going on. Therefore, when the children begin their strange transformation into the Overmind, the process cannot be considered "evolution." In order for it to be considered so, one must alter the definition of "adversity": in the face of utopian stagnation, the children must mutate into the Overmind in order to fight off their complete degradation into animals.

...What, then, is the purpose of human existence? According to Karellen, all of human development leads up to the moment when the children of the last generation join the Overmind. The Overmind, then, becomes an end—and a meaning—unto itself. But what are the motives of the Overmind? Karellen and the Overlords only have a theory that that Overmind is trying to increase its "awareness of the universe." Whatever the Overmind's plans, it seems difficult to equate its purposes with that of mankind. In the novel, the purpose of mankind is only to develop to the point at which it can join the collective conscious of the Overmind. As Karellen says when he announces the transformation of the children, "All the hopes and dreams of your race are ended now." To a student of Clarke's fiction, there cannot be a darker or more blasphemous pronouncement. Humanity's scientific and technological progress, its curiosity and efforts at bettering itself, have been halted by a mystical, almost supernatural energy force called the Overmind. Despite Karellen's claims that the Overmind is something "wonderful," it seems like cold comfort to know that your children will live on, without individuality or personality, within a being of pure energy and thought.

...Deception is rampant in Childhood's End. Deception is a trick of knowledge; the less you are deceived, and the better you are at deceiving others, the more powerful you are. The best deceivers are, of course, the Overlords, who deceive mankind on dozens of different points...The Overlords deceive humanity from the start, never revealing their intentions until the children of the last generation begin to mutate into the Overmind.

...Part of the description of the Overmind is that it is a kind of "collective conscious," a being of thought and energy composed of the minds of millions or billions (even trillions?) of other beings, all working as a single entity. As a race, all humans—even those thousands of years before the children of the last generation—have had some latent abilities of this sort. This is what provides the explanation for why the Overlords look so similar to a Christian image of the Devil: humans, as a collective, had a premonition of their ultimate end, and they feared that end. Therefore, they made the participants of that end, the demons, into an object of fear and evil....As mentioned above, the Overlords can be seen as ironic symbols of the Devil. In an unexpected, but equally effective way, the Overlords bring about the end of humanity just as the Devil was predicted he would. Whereas the Devil, or the Antichrist, would have brought about much death and destruction before the final end, the Overlords bring about peace and prosperity, albeit for less than a century. In the end, humanity does degrade into violence and death, just as predicted in Revelations; and the shepherds of this end are the Overlords. Whether they are "evil" or not is a matter of perspective; they do the bidding of the Overmind and play a part in the end of humanity and the destruction of Earth.

It all reminds me of ascension, Archonic influence, Reptilian hive-mind mentality, saviorship, and the list goes on. I find it very applicable to these things - meaning it shouldn't be discarded when considering all of this.

Anyways the link to the overview and analysis of the book is here:

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/childhoodsend/themes.html

[gripreaper]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Has anybody read "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke? It contains several themes and motifs that are extremely relevant - not only to what you are talking about, but also to ET intervention and the serpent/dragon/reptilian symbology.

No Vivek, I have not read Childhood's End, although I am a huge fan of Arthur C Clarke. I think he knew things and saw things way back when this stuff was still very much underground, and put those themes and truths into his movies and books.

If one is looking at the overall agenda of the overlords, they do believe that they are the god's of this planet, and it is their right to mitigate their resources as they see fit, and move towards an agenda which they have had in place for thousands of years. It has been well crafted and all contingencies have been dealt with, and it is possible that this whole "Drake" thing is part of that agenda, to prepare for a collapse which ushers in the very future we don't want (us Avalonian's) and to which most of the world is asleep to and will beg for.

Everything is usually not as it seems.

[Alie]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Posted by Alie (here)
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Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12


Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark

Great information (but Is he stoned, drunk or both?) Thanks for the heads-up Alie

KiwiElf
James Martinez has a strategy and broadcasting "style" which is purposeful, and that's how he sounds, which I believe is to create a "reverberation" of certain ideas after the broadcast is over --- most especially, take back your power.

Look up some more posts about him, especially in January

[Carmody]

Just How old is this story?

1939? At the least:

They discover that the Engineers are metallic humanoids of vast intelligence. They have assembled aliens from all parts of the galaxy to help avert a natural disaster. Our universe is but one of many, and another is about to collide with it. Both will be destroyed unless some means is found to avert the catastrophe. They are opposed by the Hellhounds, malicious reptilians who want the universe to be destroyed. And so our protagonists must struggle against overwhelming odds with the fate of the universe in their hands.

http://triplanetary.blogspot.ca/2010...engineers.html

[mountain_jim]

Thanks Avocadess for the transcriptions.

Randy talked about alleged AI satellite systems in existence as well as underground bases of negative off-planet entities and asked if these issues were being addressed as well. Drake said yes in that the action has to not be interfered with. The negative entities were already at odds with those who are ETs helping us. They (the good and bad ETs) recently had some "battles" of their own and the bad guys have pretty well already lost. Drake has been told that the angels can create a vortex and suck everything out of a place -- furniture, people, whatever. He gave a funny report of the good ETs being name-called "tree hugging hippies from space" that are not supposed to "intervene." Drake said if you check out the underground bases you will find the door open and nothing is there anymore. Explosions were involved in that. "Go and see for yourself." "The Southwest is loaded with them." "You won't find any guards."

I think he got this straight from Wilcock, or he and Wilcock got it from the same sources. This is almost verbatim what David reported awhile back, and for which I still await any evidence that it's true.