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    Do we know where any of these are? I have friends that can check 'em out with all kinds of video equipment, safety equipment etc. But, need co-ordinates or locations.
    "Ignoring the evidence is simply another way of ignoring the truth."
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    Hmmm...Alex Collier would know where the Dulce, NM one is...

    Just talked to one of the people "in the know" for most of the local alternative stuff and was told an interesting story about Alex Jones. There was a gun show here in Austin 2-3 years ago and some "authorities" were threatening to confiscate all the guns or some such. A local group (whose name I have forgotten) set up a rally of protest. Alex Jones showed up with a megaphone disrupting the rally. The people who were putting it on offered him a place behind the microphone, but he just kept yelling in the megaphone, causing a ruckus and making it impossible to have an assembly with meeting of the minds and hearts. Since then a fellow who used to be a top person in the group that held the rally openly criticized A. Jones on the radio -- and for this he was blacklisted from the radio show. A. Jones has a LOT of power here in Austin apparently, and I have to say I am believing more and more he is either an egomaniac, under mind control or both.

    I'm just mentioning this because Alex has NOT been reporting about Drake et al.'s plan at all.

    I'd say that is a good sign actually.
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    Avocadess I pmed u but i new at it did u receive it?

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    Yes, Creative Lorraine -- though I was out for a few hours and only read it recently. By the way, I would like to encourage people to speak to me publicly as much as possible (rather than privately) as I have just discovered that in a few short weeks almost one-fifth of my PM allotment has been used up. (I never heard of a limit on PMs before, but now I have!)

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    If one is looking at the overall agenda of the overlords, they do believe that they are the god's of this planet, and it is their right to mitigate their resources as they see fit, and move towards an agenda which they have had in place for thousands of years. It has been well crafted and all contingencies have been dealt with, and it is possible that this whole "Drake" thing is part of that agenda, to prepare for a collapse which ushers in the very future we don't want (us Avalonian's) and to which most of the world is asleep to and will beg for.

    Everything is usually not as it seems.[/QUOTE]

    This is not the theme of Childhood's End at all. The Overlords are asked by the creator to intervene on Earth for a mystical purpose the overlords don't know of either.

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Actually Grip... i can call you grip can't I? Anyway, I was just about to extend my search for historic dates, the alignments and the meaning of various days in May and solstices. I welcome all input .
    Yes, you can call me grip. Grip is what we sow as our beliefs, and "reaper" is that we reap what we sow.

    And yes, the eclipse on May 20th 2012, for the first time in 26,000 years, our Sun and Moon and the Mystic Pleiades will align in a spectacular total Solar Eclipse directly over one of the most powerful, mysterious spiritual vortexes in the world: the mighty Mt. Shasta!

    The cardinal Grand Cross in June, leading up to the summer solstice, aligns the 5 outer planets in a way we have not seen for a very long time as well, and this alignment challenges everything we think we know and believe.

    So, needless to say, the universe is vibrating frequencies we have not dealt with in a very long time, and the next couple of months should be very interesting.
    With this knowledge I am spurned on to consider that these wackos love blood sacrifice and are possibly going to feed their belief system with the blood of innocents. They like to play this card. I look back on the black mass ritual done at the music awards and the Superb Owl half time show laying the groundwork and sucking up the energy of all present. I am wondering if they will do a burnt offering as that is a very pleasing aroma to the Archons.

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    I have seen too many times in my own life when good people are, out of service to humanity, GIVING of themselves and freely -- only to have people begin demanding things from them and criticize them up and down over anything they can possibly grab onto.

    I see Drake as such a giver. I don't like seeing how much people put him down -- but I know that is the nature of things and I don't let it bother me too much.

    A big shout out of THANKS to Drake -- and to those who are helping to disseminate his message online or otherwise. Being a volunteer for America is a big deal and a worthy cause. I felt GOOD advising someone in a key position in my town today to find out if the local Sheriff is Constitutional -- and IF the Sheriff is Constitutional, let any local militia groups know that and suggest to them that they offer their support to the Sheriff should he need it.

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    Avocadess you tell them honey!

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    Quote People who think doing something great is impossible should not hinder those who are trying to achieve the impossible. (Paraphrase of a favorite quote.)
    Hmmm, was that a Joseph Goebbels quote? He was so very good at shutting down the people who saw another side of things.

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    I think that Modwiz has fallen asleep tonight in his tent. He must have a lotta work to do tomorrow methinks.

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    Yes, Creative Lorraine -- though I was out for a few hours and only read it recently. By the way, I would like to encourage people to speak to me publicly as much as possible (rather than privately) as I have just discovered that in a few short weeks almost one-fifth of my PM allotment has been used up. (I never heard of a limit on PMs before, but now I have!)

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    Geez what a thread!!...

    faarr freeakin outt!!...

    I'm lost for a comment...got lots of research to do!!

    thanks to all the posties...


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    bumping this --

    my theory is that they are waiting for the chaos of the Earth changes to make their big move -- it will be easy to convince folks to go to the FEMA camps when they have no home or food

    Quote Posted by Erich (here)
    If one is looking at the overall agenda of the overlords, they do believe that they are the god's of this planet, and it is their right to mitigate their resources as they see fit, and move towards an agenda which they have had in place for thousands of years. It has been well crafted and all contingencies have been dealt with, and it is possible that this whole "Drake" thing is part of that agenda, to prepare for a collapse which ushers in the very future we don't want (us Avalonian's) and to which most of the world is asleep to and will beg for.

    Everything is usually not as it seems.
    This is not the theme of Childhood's End at all. The Overlords are asked by the creator to intervene on Earth for a mystical purpose the overlords don't know of either.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Do we know where any of these are? I have friends that can check 'em out with all kinds of video equipment, safety equipment etc. But, need co-ordinates or locations.
    (UN)Secret Bases
    Urmmm I'd recommend caution before storming into Area 51 & S4 type bases , but hey,.. check it out! Anyone live in Nevada??

    Just stuck a post up here:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...066#post477066

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    I am going to post this as a thought provoker and reason for caution and seeking truth no matter how good one's intentions such as Drake's seem. I am a student of history. Things can get out of hand and when you are talking about rescuing a nation on the brink of collapse, things can get out of hand a lot faster than one can imagine. I won't play "Gotcha" with what I am about to post. I expect you to be able to put any leaders name and dates and nation into what is said below. The fact is, many thought what was happening was absolutely needed, while many others saw what was really going on and tried to warn the people. They suffered greatly for what they thought was a great work:

    The New Year 1938-39

    by Joseph Goebbels

    We are at the close of the most successful year in the history of the National Socialist government. It is rather strange how hard it is to find the right words for the events of the past year. Everyday language is not enough to express what we feel in this emotionally festive hour, to say what moves us so deeply.


    There is no doubt that the year 1938 was unique in German history. It fulfilled a thousand-year dream of the German nation. The Greater German Reich has become reality.
    All other political events pale before this historical fact. Other events may be important, but in comparison they are but of passing interest. The return of over ten million Germans to the Reich is an event of historic significance that goes far beyond the year. It will affect the most distant future.


    Things are happening all too quickly. The years are filled with dramatic events. They are so exciting and intense that we sometimes are not able to appreciate them individually. Hardly is one political problem resolved and along comes another. We often fail to be thankful enough to our age and to ourselves. Given the rapid pace in which history is happening, we incline all too easily to forget the difficulties that were involved. We can easily consider the government’s successes as obvious, things that had to be. If last year we had a harvest of unprecedented size in our barns, we can easily believe that it was the result of political good fortune and a kind of historic miracle.


    Of course, a certain element of luck is involved in historical successes, and the sheer scope of the Führer’s success does seem miraculous. But the kind of luck we are having is the kind that, as Moltke once said, is enjoyed only by those who work for it. The historic miracle we are experiencing is one of those miracles that are mysterious and inexplicable in their totalities, but are brilliantly clear in individual events.
    As long as we are speaking of miracles, it is worth asking why the National Socialist government has been so blessed with miracles, but not its predecessors. In those preceding governments, there was usually a party that never tied of maintaining that it had particularly close relations with God. Still, there were no miracles. They waited for one. They did not happen.


    The most miraculous thing about miracles is that they always come when one does not simply wait for them, but works and fights for them. That is what has happened here. The Führer did not bring about the miracles of 1938 by waiting for them. He gathered and organized the strength of the nation and used it courageously. It paid off. There was certainly risk involved. Without big risks, history never grants big successes. This is further proof of the proverb that the world belongs to the brave.



    It is characteristic of historic miracles that they seem almost impossible until they happen, and when they happen, it sometimes looks as if it had been easy. It is therefore no great thing to recognize a historic miracle that has happened. One must believe in ones yet to come.


    That is the important thing about the big historic events of the past year. The people did not waver during the difficult tensions that were involved, and had to be involved. The broad masses of the people have a primitive and incorruptible ability to believe that everything is possible and reachable if one devotes one’s full energies and fights with a strong and courageous heart.


    This ability to believe is rather weak in some circles, above all in those with money and education. They may trust more in pure cold reason than a glowing idealistic heart. Our so-called intellectuals do not like to hear this, but it is true anyway. They know so much that in the end they do not know what to do with their wisdom. They can see the past, but not much of the present, and nothing at all of the future. Their imagination is insufficient to deal with a distant goal in a way such that one already thinks it achieved.


    They were also unable to believe in the victory of National Socialism while the National Socialist movement was still fighting for power. They are as little able today to believe in the greatness of our national German future. They perceive only what they can see, but not what is happening, and what will happen.


    That is why their carping criticisms generally focus on laughable trivialities. Whenever some unavoidable difficulty pops up, the kind of thing that always happens, they are immediately inclined to doubt everything and to throw the baby out with the bath water. To them difficulties are not there to be mastered, but rather to be surrendered to.


    One cannot make history with such quivering people. They are only chaff in God’s breath. Thankfully, they are only a thin intellectual or social upper class, particularly in the case of Germany. They are not an upper class in the sense that they govern the nation, but rather more a fact of nature like the bubbles of fat that always float on the surface of things.


    Today, they seek to give good advice to National Socialist Germany from abroad. We do not have to ask them for it. They focus all their energies on the small problems that always are there, complain about the cost and believe that crises and unavoidable tensions are on the way. They are the complainers who never tire of bringing National Socialist Germany before the so-called court of world opinion. In the past they always found willing and thankful followers. Today, they only have a few backward intellectual Philistines in their camp.


    The people want nothing to do with them. These Philistines are the 8/10 of one percent of the German people who have always said “no”, who always say “no” now, and who will always say “no” in the future. We cannot win them over, and do not even want to. They said “no” when Austria joined the Reich; they said “no” when the Sudetenland followed. They always say “no” as a matter of principle.
    One does not need to take them all that seriously. They do not like us, but they do not like themselves any better. Why should we waste words on them? They are always living in the past and believe in success only when it has already happened, but then waste no time in claiming credit for it.


    The people want nothing to do with these intellectual complainers. The year 1938 was filled with great and sometimes unnerving tension. But they are delighted at the close of this year with the Führer’s great historical successes.


    This people are once more happy about life. Never before has there been such a happy Christmas as that of a week ago, and never before have we looked forward with so much confidence and courage to a new year as we do to 1939.


    It is always hard to bid farewell to a year. Each year has many joys and sorrows. Each has its high points and low points. We would not want to miss a single year of our lives.
    It has never been as difficult, however, to bid farewell to a year as it is to the year 1938. It was a splendid year, crowned with victory and success, a year without equal.
    The ten million Germans who returned to the Reich feel this above all. They join us for the first time in celebrating the new year.


    A year ago they gathered in dark cellars and blacked out rooms to listen to the radio as I gave the political report for the year. The voice of the nation reached them as they sat in the prisons or concentration camps that Austrian clericalism, with its pure Christian neighborly love, had established. They could do nothing but long for the Reich.


    Now they are part of the great German fatherland. They sit in their rooms and dwellings. They are surrounded by comfortable warmth and are filled with pure and cheerful joy.
    They are united with us. For the first time, 80 million Germans of the great German motherland join in celebrating the new year.
    I take pleasure in this festive hour to send over the radio the last greetings of the passing year to all from Flensburg to Klagenfurt and from Aachen to Tilsit. We 80 million Germans are united in this great Reich in the center of Europe. We have a common fatherland and serve common national goals.


    In these last hours of the old year I greet Germans everywhere. I greet the Germans in the Reich. I greet the Germans throughout the world, in foreign countries and in distant continents. I greet the Germans on the high seas. And in the name of countless millions of Germans I send our common greeting to the Führer.


    Never were our wishes for him heartier and deeper than in this hour. We thank him for the Greater German Reich that is now a reality. Only his courage, his steadfastness, his actions, and his nerves made this great miracle possible.


    It has been six years since we gathered with him at the end of 1932 at the Obersalzberg. It was at National Socialism’s gravest hour. The movement had experienced a depressing electoral loss and many had begun to lose faith in ultimate victory. Those who always live in the past were saying that Hitler’s star was sinking.
    More than ever, however, we believed in him and in his strong and unshakable belief in the greatness of the Reich and the historic mission of the German people. Because he believed so firmly and unshakably, the Greater German Reich has become reality.


    Today we once more join with him in this strong and unshakable belief in the greatness of the Reich and the historic future of the German nation. Loyal and unshakable, we trust this man and his historic mission, and will do everything to ensure that his orders will always find a ready and determined people.


    In the closing hours of the old year, we Germans join for the first time in a great national community and give our warm and fervent thanks to the Almighty, who so blessed our land in this last year. We pray that he give the Führer strength and health. May he rest always in God’s divine grace!


    We promise the Führer that we will remain his most obedient and loyal followers.


    The year 1938 has been the most blessed year in Germany’s history. May it be followed by a new year also filled with success and victory! May it bring our land and its people blessing and good fortune!
    I greet all Germans, above all those who in the past year carried the heaviest burdens, deprivations, sorrows, and responsibilities. You have the thanks of the fatherland.
    May God hold his hand of blessing over Germany in the future.


    We join at the end of this year in a single prayer from all Germans to the Almighty:
    May our people and Reich be eternal,
    and long live the Führer!

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote People who think doing something great is impossible should not hinder those who are trying to achieve the impossible. (Paraphrase of a favorite quote.)
    Hmmm, was that a Joseph Goebbels quote? He was so very good at shutting down the people who saw another side of things.
    Could be Peter Pan for all I know... ... but I like it

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    As was discussed in the opening remarks of my interview with Drake on 04/26/2012: I openly requested the release of the state's documents filed at the World Court as a tangible proof of the lawful/legal initiation of the actions outlined by Drake in all his interviews. I made this request prior to confirming this interview and stated that I felt this an absolute necessity to establish credibility.

    To their credit, the Pennsylvania group, who were the originators of the action have allowed their original notarized copies to be publicly posted (with redaction/blackouts to protect the signatories). I have made the documents available on my website:

    http://exotica-radio.com/articles/20...ts-posted.html

    The complete Drake 04-26-2012 Drake interview is also posted in a single 30 MB file: http://exotica-radio.com/podcast/drake-interview-04-26-2012-from-freedom-reigns-blogtalk-radi.html

    Please circulate these documents freely---the disinfo agents began working even as these were being released, and even certain high profile "alternative media" figures are working to discredit The Plan and Drake. I understand that many are skeptical---I have maintained my own skepticism, as well. But if this movement is "still born" because the cabal is able to undermine and split support, we may not have another shot at freedom for ourselves and future generations.

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    Quote Posted by Alie (here)
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    Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12


    Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark
    Great information (but Is he stoned, drunk or both?) Thanks for the heads-up Alie
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    James Martinez has a strategy and broadcasting "style" which is purposeful, and that's how he sounds, which I believe is to create a "reverberation" of certain ideas after the broadcast is over --- most especially, take back your power.

    Look up some more posts about him, especially in January
    Sowwy everyone! First time I'd heard him (and was in hysterics) - the information IS cool! Thank you, Alie!

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    Quote Posted by randymaugans (here)
    ---the disinfo agents began working even as these were being released, and even certain high profile "alternative media" figures are working to discredit The Plan and Drake.
    ... and so did the freethinkers and those who prefer to examine the evidence for themselves, and who have the legal acumen to do so. These are just ordinary individuals with no axe to grind but who are not going to freely hand over their power and decision-making process to someone that they don't know and who is calling them into the battle just because it would be so nice and lovely if all this were true.

    I am not aware of any disinformation agents in these threads. I am aware, though, of those who joined specifically in the last week or so, and before even bothering to get to know us, they weighed in on these threads supporting Drake. Some of them haven't posted in any other threads...they have solely come on here to promote Drake and his plan. I won't call them disinformation agents, because I expect they really do believe in Drake and in what he's doing. But we have a right to cross examine what those people are telling us.

    Quote Posted by randymaugans (here)
    I understand that many are skeptical---I have maintained my own skepticism, as well. But if this movement is "still born" because the cabal is able to undermine and split support, we may not have another shot at freedom for ourselves and future generations.

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    You don't know that it is a ' now or never' deal... and sorry, but the last time someone tried to persuade me with that argument, they were trying to sell me a Timeshare apartment in Spain.

    And so if you have maintained your scepticism, please allow us to retain ours .... much bloodshed and loss of life will take place if Drake and his friends (we don't even know who they are) bring their plan to fruition. That's why we have every right to question every dot, crossed t and comma of what Drake says.

    I was disappointed in your interview with Drake ... I felt you let him dance rings around you while not answering the question directly many times.
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    If one is looking at the overall agenda of the overlords, they do believe that they are the god's of this planet, and it is their right to mitigate their resources as they see fit, and move towards an agenda which they have had in place for thousands of years. It has been well crafted and all contingencies have been dealt with, and it is possible that this whole "Drake" thing is part of that agenda, to prepare for a collapse which ushers in the very future we don't want (us Avalonian's) and to which most of the world is asleep to and will beg for.

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