Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by aranuk (here)
DiD that happened before Drake mentioned that we would hear about something big in two or three days. Forgive me if I heard it wrong. As far as I'm concerend the three days are up. I haven't heard anything remotely similar.


Stan

Mmm, no clue my friend. That's why I said "some thought he might have been intimating" it was simply speculation I much like Drake have "bigger fish to fry" than sweating the details. It's coming, things are seriously about to get really interesting. Mind, I'm not just betting on horses out of Drake's stable, I've got my money on several more that have never even passed through his barn. They're all running in the same direction.

[DreamsInDigital]

@ Gripreaper:

The first notice of lien was posted on David Wilcock's site, I just haven't bothered to follow beyond that, because like I said, I don't sweat the details. And, Drake is not the only one I've got that's talking about this whole Oath Keeper/Pentagon Uprising. I know it's coming and I have a good solid foundation of what IS coming from multiple independent sources. That's more than enough for me, I have bigger fish to fry than worrying about details and specific dates. And, specially when we're at a point in the universe when "time" in and of it's self is extremely fluid.... I personally do not need a piece of paper to tell or confirm nothing for me. But, for those that do..that's fine. I personally just don't.

[gripreaper]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
The first notice of lien was posted on David Wilcock's site,.

What David Wilcock posted on his site is not a Legal Lien. The imbedded text with cut and pasted signatures by Keenan and Scott ARE NOT LIENS

[DreamsInDigital]

I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

[rmauersr]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

Can someone explain? What is a "notice of lien"?
What purpose does it serve?

[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I was thinking the same thing today also. I mentioned it in another post I made. I checked out Sabrina's thread the Bankers resignations but found nothing that could be defined as such.
Aij You are certainly on the ball. The young people like you will be on this Earth when we old critters have left. We will be doing our thing no doubt and you young ones will be in charge of this wonderful planet ok. Take control of yourselves and the planet. It is yours for the taking. I am so proud that you are voicing your opinion here. Long may it continue.


Stan

Thanks stan that means a lot. Elders like you and Modwiz humble me with your kindness and intelligence. Long may YOU both continue to help the younger generation find it's way. Your wisdom and guidance are greatly appreciated.

[Referee]

I have reviewd much of the material on this thread. I am hopefull. Drake seems to me to be talking from the heart IMO. David pressed him and he did not struggle. I believe his story. The more I think of this the more this sort of action makes sense to me. The US got it right in the past. I believe we will get it right again!

I am a bit surprised that they went public before the action. That is the only big red flag I am seeing in this Drake material. Why warn them if the good guys are comming it seems un military like???!!!

[aranuk]

In fact, at such an important level of such things as the liberation of nation from tyranny, I suspect that dis-information is a critical factor in decieving the enemy. So when Drake is informing the public on what is going to happen, most likely it is not meant to inform the public at all but to dis-inform the enemy. Most military Generals will make such manouvres instinctively as of their training. So if Drake tells us that within 30-45 days there will be things happening that cannot possibly be the truth. The enemy must surely think that it will start much sooner or much later. But a double bluff may mean that 30-45 days is the real time frame. Who knows? As Yvonne said that Drake addressed the troops a few times not to obey bad orders I can only trust Drake is who he says he is and that is on the side of the people.

Stan

[gripreaper]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
I said "notice of lien" not "a lien"....

Ok, so it's a "Notice". Hey you guys, you owe me money. That's all a Notice does. It has no force and effect. Mixing an alleged Affidavit in with a notice and then putting interrogatories in the notice as well? Come on now, this is amateur hour when it comes to proper procedure.

Look, I want there to be an energetic force strong enough and unified enough to balance out the cabal just as much as anybody, but David Wilcock's heading is: MAJOR EVENT, Liens filed against ALL 12 Federal Reserve Banks?

The imbedded text with copy and pasted signatures? Come on. Totally misleading and not true.

[DreamsInDigital]

I just looked at that page again, and it states very clearly that document that was posted on the page with the Dirty Dozen Banks, says "Commercial Lien" so apparently? The copied text is directly from the actual lien documents, maybe this is why you don't recognize them? Are you maybe only familiar with non-commercial lien documents? Just curious. And, those would be digital signatures which are commonly used on digital documents. Are you simply questioning them because they are not photos of the documents, but digitally rendered versions of them?

[justoneman]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Well, I don't know about anyone else , but someone has earned their way onto my ignore list. Unfortunately, I will still see the droppings if others continue to engage and give this person life by paying any attention to it. I will take the small step that is available to me.

Correct action I should have already taken as well, thanks for the lesson Modwiz, I will follow the advice.

[gripreaper]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Are you maybe only familiar with non-commercial lien documents? Just curious.

No, I'm familiar with "commercial" liens. All liens are commercial. All contracts are commerce. Do you know what a lien is and what a lien is supposed to look like?

What is non-commercial? I know of no distinction between commercial and non-commercial.

[DreamsInDigital]

Yes, I do. Do you see the part I updated with another question in that specific comment? I'm just trying to understand better where you are coming from since it says on the document on that page "Commercial Lien".

[gripreaper]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Yes, I do. Do you see the part I updated with another question in that specific comment? I'm just trying to understand better where you are coming from since it says on the document on that page "Commercial Lien".

OK, let me give you a little background. I'll start at the beginning of the Sovereign movement of the last 30 years, with the Montana Freemen. Larry Schweitzer just passed away after spending almost 25 years in prison. Do you know anything about the siege at the ranch in Montana? Anyway, it continued to evolve after that, and the most notable stories you might recognize would be the Branch Davidian's, who died by being burned to death, all 82 men, women and children. They were a sovereign group. Later, the likes of Alfred Adask, Ben Lowry, Roger Elvick, and others, etc. got this notion that a sovereign individual could file a commercial lien and "clog up" the process of paying debt, since there is no money and therefore debt cannot be paid.

The courts ruled on several cases that there must be a judicial judgment from a court of proper jurisdiction before a lien could be filed. I've looked at some of those cases, but they were in a file on my old hard drive from two years ago which crashed and I lost that file. Then you had the whole "redemption process" put together by Tim Turner in the 1990's, filing UCC 1's, Notices and Declarations to the Treasury, "accepting for value" birth certificates and bills and sending them to the IRS for "offset and closure", all based on the bankruptcy of 1933. There was a 1099OID process where people were claiming to be the "creditor" and declaring the banks the "debtor", and for years this was successful, with many offsetting hundreds of thousands. And then guess what happened? Right before the 3 year statute of limitations expiry, the IRS clamped down on the 1099OID process and a whole bunch of people went to jail and are still in jail.

And why do I mention all this? Because for decades now there have been reams of souls who have tried everything to extricate themselves from commerce and public debt instruments, to offset and close those debts as per the 1933 bankruptcy, have fought in the public courts to defend that sovereignty, and paid with their lives. The whole commercial lien thing went down really bad back in the 80's.

The law requires judicial court judgment before you can file a legal lien. ANYONE can send a notice administratively (See Administrative Procedures Act of 1946) but these notices have no force and effect in law.

[DreamsInDigital]

Right, I get all that. But, what is it specifically with the liens filed against the dirty dozen? It says on DW's page that it is a Commercial Lien, is it because it's a digitized document with digital signatures and not a photograph of the actual document? It to me looks like a very commonly formatted Commercial Lien , just in a digitized format.

I have a great depth of respect for you and where you are coming from and the information you are so kindly sharing. I just want to make sure I fully understand what you mean and why. I like having as much of the information as possible and making sure I completely understand something before I form any solid thoughts or opinions about it.

[YvonneG]

I have a friend who studied very carefully all this lien business. He is a retired CPA, also Legal Asst as well as has been working with common law remedies and more. He sent me this. I posted it on another thread but don't remember which one. Here is what he wrote me.

My Best Guess:

A. The Liens were dated April 11th. They allow for a 10 day response period. Most probable outcome is for the Fed Reserve to default as they have no defenses. That means as of Monday the 23rd look for the Federal Reserve to be seized.

B. Lien Process. I do not think that the liens went through a court system. Originally, there was a contract between the Fed Reserve and the various countries/funds that gave up their gold in exchange for Fed Bonds. Under old law (contract & maritime) a lien can be prepared and sent to the other party directly. The lien outlines the damages and the remedy being requested.

If the defendant fails to respond (defend themselves) in ten days, then the allegations stand and the lien can be foreclosed on by the county sheriff. If the defendant puts up a false defense, they are in more jeopardy than before and the players then become personally liable for the damages done by the corporation.

If the lien is foreclosed on then the Fed Reserve will be under new management, the Wall Street banks will collapse within two weeks, the cabal effectively will be cut off from all of their money - thus game over.

Don't forget that the Fed Reserve must remain open to process checks, interbank transfers and other routine banking. What will stop is the printing of money, fraud, money laundering etc. That is why I suggest the new management approach will occur.

The only defense to an undefended lien is bankruptcy filed by the Fed Reserve. However, this is not an option as bankruptcy would still open the curtain for all of the world to see the Federal Reserve as a giant fraud, so the game is still over.

All that is needed to serve the Fed the Lien foreclosure is a local sheriff backed up by one Army tank.

[Avocadess]

I'm hoping to hear some good news from Drake on the next show he will be on. Now that he and Deatra are moving to Wolf Spirit radio I don't know when their next show is? Anyone know?

[justoneman]

Posted by Referee (here)
I have reviewd much of the material on this thread. I am hopefull. Drake seems to me to be talking from the heart IMO. David pressed him and he did not struggle. I believe his story. The more I think of this the more this sort of action makes sense to me. The US got it right in the past. I believe we will get it right again!

I am a bit surprised that they went public before the action. That is the only big red flag I am seeing in this Drake material. Why warn them if the good guys are comming it seems un military like???!!!

On the contrary, it seems quite military like when you think about it. The military is packed with highly intelligent folks. Consider 75% of the military (current and retired) are together on this (and it is likely more like 85-90%). That may appear to be a large number of personnel but it really isn't. It would make sense to consider a pre-alert to the masses as to limit panic and how all that could go. Especially when folks like many of us are ready to help assist and educate as many as we can when this all goes down. A significantly smaller eruption from the public means those who are involved in the more difficult actions can focus strictly on those actions. Hitler lost in part because he fought his war on two fronts. This tactic reduces the need for dividing military resources. It also shows good faith on their part. Some may say, hey... this is all a setup. Well, haven't we already been set up for several millenia? So what is there to lose? Go with your gut - my gut bets on Drake and the rest. Now factor in the ET/ED card, and this all makes sense that this can actually be accomplished. I still need to see it to believe it, but I can understand the tactic of pre-alert and I am more prepared to assist if these events actually take place. Let's get it done, folks.

[gripreaper]

If Drake is sovereign, and stands outside of commerce, and is doing a commercial lien directly to the Federal Reserve on the private side without any judicial process, then he cannot go into any jurisdiction and adjudicate in a public venue, such as a court. You cannot mix private and public processes. All these crooks who are allegedly going to be "arrested" would need to have "charges" filed in an international court of proper jurisdiction, (The Hague?) and "warrants" issued which can be handed over to the military to execute on. If the existing jurisdiction's are all De Facto and part of the commercial realm, then how does one adjudicate on the private side, outside of commerce, and not in a public venue?

I know that there were Common Law courts and grand juries way back when, but these were still derivatives of and based on their earlier predecessors, such as Ecclesiastical Law, or early Roman Law. The whole "rule of law" paradigm over the last 5000 years has always been favored towards the few who controlled these laws, as far back as Rome.

Quite frankly, I don't know what Drake is proposing to adjudicate and get remedy. Maybe they will create their own courts, and appoint grand juries. I have seen such movements fail in the past. I was asked to sit on a jury of a Common Law court a couple years ago, and the opposing party never showed up. Those default judgments were unenforceable.

Maybe if the military will back such efforts we may see for the first time in history the creation of a venue with a grand jury which can adjudicate a true "De Jure" controversy. I'm just sayin, they better know what the hell they're doing and not walk back into commerce. I don't know how they can since the gold was exchanged for bonds issued by the Federal Reserve, which is the epitome of the de facto system and created the BAR associations, and all of its court permutations for the last 5000 years. If they try and drag this snake pit of vipers out of the public realm and FORCE them into a private venue, then they do so without both parties agreeing to adjudicate. In the public venue, both parties agree to the courts jurisdiction.

So, whatever they're doing does not follow any existing protocol which I am aware of. RAP and RuSA made all of the same claims. I guess we'll see, wont we?

[DreamsInDigital]

Drake isn't personally doing the lien though, it's Neil Keenan and Keith Scott that are. AFAIK, Drake's just like the "public mouth piece" of the Positive Military and Resistance Movement.