Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[tenacity1]

Posted by modwiz (here)
All the moving of the goalposts delight me. I can smell the change in the air and feel it in the ethers. The quivering, impending moment rests on a knife's edge awaiting for the proper energy and alignments. Our frustration is a small price to pay for the unnerving of the elite who have to comfort themselves with lies while their fate hangs over their heads like a Sword of Damocles. They scurry and posture while their schizophrenic existence leads them to ever more desperate moves. They try to plan for a thief in the night that does not yet know the timing of its' own arrival.

This is the Art of War.

LOve Avocadess posts btw and applud her for taking a stand..

As to the gentlemans post.. I agree it is the art of war and it's been carried out on the backs of the disabled the poor and the elderly for a long time.The American people too but they have been programmed not to care.. Then you have the far right which wants whole populations to die, the far left as social Darwinist and the folks who I call popcorn eaters.. they haven't done one thing in their communities ever to alleviate suffering but are the first to hang on to what new heros have fallen today scenarios.. I am having sertous doubts about Drake.. what if this was naught but a psy ops to take folks in and fool them? I for one am not waiting fo R ASCENSION, dRAKE, GODOT OR ANYONE TO RESCUE ME. i STILL BE PLANTING MY GARDEN .... current events and personal life stuff that just came up today has me wondering if the entire internet is nothing but a distraction tool for those who don't own tvs. I find my Creator in the garden.. and will always find peace there.

Perhaps my perspective is just the ZEn of someone who having once been paralyzed is so grateful just to be vertical that today is where I am trying to live. Be here now as it were. Worry, fear and all that impatience I see in some folks makes me very , very grateful for a journey that taught me not to be attached to having my way. If every ounce of energy spent on the web was spent in communities where help is needed... the world wouldn't be in this mess.

[promezeus]

I think people like Drake are good for helping us to improve our discernment skills. Discernment is probably the most beneficial skill one can have in 3d, and one of the most lacking on this planet as well. It allows us to pierce the veil between truth and lies, truth tellers and liars, authenticity and con games, not only in others, but in ourselves as well. I know it's been one of the most difficult lessons for me to learn. Drake is an interesting, paradoxical, piece of work. In one moment, he's honest and truth-telling, and in another moment, an ego-driven nutjob. His attack on PA was about as low as you can get, and he actually never apologized. His comment that Obama may be a switcherooni can be taken many ways and gives us no useful intel whatsoever. IF Obama was a switcherooni, then Drake just outed him. Personally my discernment cannot even fathom Obama being a switcherooni. But we shall see.
So I say let's enjoy the show if we are so inclined, take from it whatever feels right, but let's not allow hope to mask our discernment.

[SilentFeathers]

People are thirsty for the truth and solutions but are so condition to hearing only lies and being deceived that when some "new guy on the block" pops in and starts speaking some common sense to them, well, eyes and ears are wide open and people are basically amazed to hear something new that actually makes sense. (in a strange sort of way). People being so used to the MSM and elected Officials saying one thing but seeing just the opposite in most cases that to hear someone speak common sense such as; stock up on food, grow a garden, the bankers rule, the gov is corrupt, don't fire upon peaceful soldiers walking down your street, we are gonna have tough times ahead, a golden age is coming etc etc etc....well, this dude must be special! because no one else is saying these things so boldly!

But then to make his case even stronger he says he knows BIG people in High places! Toss in some aliens and ninja's, A GOD or two, some new age transistion in to a golden age, and hell, now you really got it going on!!!!!! The savior dynamics, messiah complex etc now comes in to play in the psyche of many, ET's/God, supernatural powers are at work, Drake is the messenger!!!! woohoo! This whole situation takes a new turn and basically a cult is born. The RAPTURE is on!!!!!! (hence; the savior (s) are coming!)

But the rapture doesn't happen in a few weeks like originally being told.....the date is moved down the road a few weeks.....and then it doesn't happen again and the date is moved down the road a few months.......then what?

Isn't this the same kind of thing that has been going on for centuries?

When are we as a people going to realize we ourselves, together as a family of human beings, are responsible for "fixing" things?

haven't we waited around long enough for "the savior" to show up to fix things?

If we wait much longer for messiah or et's to save us there will be none of us left here to be saved.......

[SilentFeathers]

....and as we type in a forum about some fictional rapture story going on the pillaging continues....look at the fiasco going on with FaceBook, Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan etc etc right now, (with Goldman Sachs smirking in the back ground pulling the strings of course).....also the fed is now allowing China to buy treasury bonds through their back door (hidden from view)......on and on this pillaging goes......do you honestly think these people are worried about being arrested?????

[promezeus]

So discernment........
There are plenty of cynical, 5 sense-blinded people in this forum, like silent feathers..no offense intended. They look at the past that they have seen with their eyes, and they make judgments based on that. They read my last post, and they think it agrees with them. However nothing could be further from the truth. Their discernment is limited. Their thinking, their discernment, lacks depth and comprehensiveness. It’s rigid. People who are adamant about their own predictions cannot be trusted because only an open-minded person is capable of sensitive discernment. Only an open-minded person’s point of view can change with the flow of their changing discernment.

The long-term historical past shows us something is likely to happen on this planet soon. David Wilcock and others have done an amazing job of outlining the historical and other evidence. But most people just won’t see it coming because it’s a quantum leap from THEIR past, and that’s all they can or want to see.
But for the rest of us...hmm.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by promezeus (here)
So discernment........
There are plenty of cynical, 5 sense-blinded people in this forum, like silent feathers..no offense intended. They look at the past that they have seen with their eyes, and they make judgments based on that. They read my last post, and they think it agrees with them. However nothing could be further from the truth. Their discernment is limited. Their thinking, their discernment, lacks depth and comprehensiveness. It’s rigid. People who are adamant about their own predictions cannot be trusted because only an open-minded person is capable of sensitive discernment. Only an open-minded person’s point of view can change with the flow of their changing discernment.

The long-term historical past shows us something is likely to happen on this planet soon. David Wilcock and others have done an amazing job of outlining the historical and other evidence. But most people just won’t see it coming because it’s a quantum leap from THEIR past, and that’s all they can or want to see.
But for the rest of us...hmm.

I did take that as an insult, but you have a right to judge me and make an opinion, if I'm so blind why am I not standing around with my tin foil hat on praising Drake and Wilcock for their fact based and evidence loaded theories?

[Oouthere]

I agree with a lot, if not all of what SilentFeathers says. The group of which I’m part has had numerous visions of earth changes, our military fighting each other, etc….yet none of it has ever happened. People have been told for thousands of years that “it’s about to happen,” but it never does. So how many times are we going to be lead down the same path? How many times do we have to be hit in the head with fear porn before we realize it probably is only that, nothing more?

I’ll say my life has been extraordinary but do I believe everything that is experienced? No. When I receive a download of information, does that mean it’s correct? No. I believe these people are telling it like they understand it and most of us certainly wish it to be true, but is it likely? No.

Rich

[SilentFeathers]

Thanks Rich, I'll be the first to admit that I am not always right and that I don't know everything. I didn't come to this forum to tell everyone they are wrong and it's my way or the highway, I came here to share my perspectives and opinions and to learn from others.....I am a life long student like others here (well most others here).

promezeus, if you disagree with me that's fine, but please do not insult or degrade me in such a way in the future, I would not treat you in such a way.

end of story and onward......

[frozen alchemy]

Someone mentioned the bill to disallow the exportation from the U.S. of mercury; for several years now, China has been cornering the market on all sorts of elements, rare earth and otherwise, necessary for advanced technology manufacturing; mercury is one of them: http://www.glrppr.org/docs/mercury_in_industry.htm

It stands to reason that there will be careful controls set up on exportation of materials necessary to continue current and future manufacturing needs. I sincerely doubt that it has anything to do with alchemy uses (mercury into gold???).

As to Drake, Fulford and Wilcock, things seem awfully quiet. I've been out of touch, has ANYthing they predicted happened?

[RMorgan]

Posted by frozen alchemy (here)

As to Drake, Fulford and Wilcock, things seem awfully quiet. I've been out of touch, has ANYthing they predicted happened?

No. Nothing. Zero.

Don´t even ask me about David Wilcock previous ascension2000.com website, where he used to say everything he´s saying right now, only related to the year 2000...The name of the site speaks for itself.

These folks are con artists. It´s that simple.

Soon they will come up with another fantastic story and more excuses. Don´t worry. These folks just make big claims, monitor people´s reaction and then react accordingly.

Wilcock is doing that for the last 12 years and don´t think for a moment that he´ll stop after 2012 passes and absolutely nothing significant happens. This is his profession.

He´ll continue to do it until he gets the last possible cent out of it. Then he´ll move on to another scam.

Allow me to post part of my research about him.

About David Wilcock:

1998 - David Wilcock made a prophecy at the beginning of July that indicated the possible threat of a nuclear strike on New York City for August 17th, 1998. Accordingly to him, it never happened "due to our own efforts of prayer and of alerting the proper forces, this strike has been avoided".

2000/2008/2009 - David Wilcock, who once had a website called ascension2000.com, like the name of the site says, predicted that some kind of mass dimensional ascension would happen in the year 2000. Wilcock predicted that on October 14th 2008 a massive armada of UFO's would be seen worldwide in the skies, and that the US government would fully disclose all UFO information by the end of 2009.

You can see thread about it here (Unfortunatelly, Wilcock removed the video on which he made such predictions, he always does that.)

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1791872/pg1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread546507/pg1

David Wilcock talking about his 1998 New York bombing prediction/prophecy, in his own website, with his own words:

"As many of you will be aware, I made a prophecy at the beginning of July that indicated the possible threat of a nuclear strike on New York City for August 17th, 1998. Thankfully, due to our own efforts of prayer and of alerting the proper forces, this strike has been avoided. I do wish to thank all of those out there who worked with the readings in sending their own positive energy to make sure that this would not happen."

Official link: http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/r...omb-prediction

Older link, with the complete prediction:

http://www.greatdreams.com/nynuke.htm

About his ascension2000 website, you can see some older threads about it here:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1794943/pg1

http://www.realistnews.net/Thread-da...-ascension2000

You can also access what´s left from his ascension2000 website on this cache based web archive, here:

http://web.archive.org/web/199905081...nsion2000.com/

I think this comment sums up the situation very well:

"Just go to www.archive.org/web/web.php and search for ascension2000.com. Not a single word about 2012, yet he stated that 2039 is going to be a big year. He also stated that Saddam was to blame for the 9/11 attacks and that he was the third antichrist predicted by Nostradamus .... After all of his predictions failed he just changed the name of his site to divinecosmos, deleted all his old pages and changed his look by shaving off his beard and dying his hair blonde." http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1478364/pg2

If after reading this post, someone still believes this man is telling the true, well, then all I can say us that at least I tried to make people think for themselves.

Cheers,

Raf.

[promezeus]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Thanks Rich, I'll be the first to admit that I am not always right and that I don't know everything. I didn't come to this forum to tell everyone they are wrong and it's my way or the highway, I came here to share my perspectives and opinions and to learn from others.....I am a life long student like others here (well most others here).

promezeus, if you disagree with me that's fine, but please do not insult or degrade me in such a way in the future, I would not treat you in such a way.

end of story and onward......

SilentFeathers, the easiest way for me to abide by your request is simply to put you on my ignore list (which i did). I suggest you do the same for me.

regards

[frozen alchemy]

Avocadess: Eight posts in the last three pages of this thread? Have you got inside information about Drake or are you just going on your feelings about the guy after listening to the same radio shows the rest of us have?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Don´t even ask me about David Wilcock previous ascension2000.com website, where he used to say everything he´s saying right now, only related to the year 2000...The name of the site speaks for itself.

These folks are con artists. It´s that simple.
Raf.

I remember those things on Wilcock's site in the late 90's, I was actually working on a similar post to yours about Wilcock but you beat me to it.

I've followed Wilcock's work for years, some of his perspectives grab me while most of his theories are just that, theories. He's a good researcher, but at the same time quite creative with "laying it on the table".

I was highly suspicious when Wilcock basically "endorsed" Drake, it actually reminded me of Wilcock back in 1998-99, and a few others with the Y2 thing etc.....it also reminded me of that pastor last year or the year before about the rapture happening on May 20th, and then it didn't happen and he changed the date to sometime in Oct., but it didn't happen again....

I for one surely feel something big coming down the pike, but as I said earlier in this thread, it'll probably be something that not many are really thinking about that much right now that'll be the "big game-changer"......I've learned over the years that usually what everyone or most people are thinking that's going to happen, something else does and blindsides us all.....perhaps we'll get it right one of these days

[Unified Serenity]

SF, I completely agree with you and RMorgan. I also feel some huge things are coming, but have no date in mind. I could biblically justify something huge happening in 2018, but I won't do that. We see signs of the big one world government forming. We know false flags and events are created to bring about change politically and legally. I am am amazed that people defend these shysters as they do, and forgive them for outright misinforming the people when they proclaim this or that is going to happen by such time and it does not happen, but gee they get a big audience and create a lot of drama.

The fact is they say things that sound good and we like so people support them, but really, do they deserve the spot light and adoration / devotion some seem to promulgate or the chastising of those who dare to point out the problems with them? It's all hype, drama, and Roman Coliseum hopium for those who need that kind of entertainment. The funny thing is, these hopium addicts are very quick to point out the evil dogma of Christianity, the evil military doing evil things around the world, and the tv industry keeping us entertained with sports, movies etc.. but they cannot for a moment consider they are in the coliseum next door singing Kum Bah Yah.


It's a beautiful song, but it's just more religion and entertainment:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjcxFGEysE

[tenacity1]

while i am waiting for no hero to rescue me.. I do think this ine from Jackson Browne bears repeating "don't think it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet." I still have hope but that hope lies in my heart and my own efforts.. Who wouldn't hope in these difficult times. The alternative is fear and I'm not going there. Whomever this person turns out to be I simply want to keep perspective and an open mind.. Because I love this life so much and am fighting like hell to keep it , I suppose more than most.. what we have seen the govts do has galvanized me for 20 years.. I'm so tired of folks with disabilities being shunted aside by our govt.. Not me, but so many that I know are,My heart goes out to them .I have to hope for a scenario that saves these friends who simply are unable to save themselves.. I cannot leave behind the weak... just cannot.. I'd consider myself heartless if I did.

[Mozart]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Wilcock predicted that on October 14th 2008 a massive armada of UFO's would be seen worldwide in the skies, and that the US government would fully disclose all UFO information by the end of 2009.

Raf ~


With all due respect, I call this what you said above to be bullsh!t. Wilcock never did make such a prediction -- it was a woman, a one "Blossom Goodchild" who made this prediction, not Wilcock, man.


I have just skimmed through the OP and I don't have time to look into each allegation (I'm busy building a garden from scratch), but I do know for a fact that this Oct 14th, 2008 one is bullsh!t, so I wanted to make that very clear.


~Mozart

[Unified Serenity]

Who said not to hope? Of course we have hope, prayer, meditation, and talk to bring about a better world, but there is a real problem with people playing a Messianic role or Head Spokesman and the evidence is the zeal for which some defend even the most stupid of statements or prophecy's that never come true.

I have a very strong faith in mankind to eventually get our feces collated. I also know human behavior and how easy a movement can turn into a religion and demand complete obedience. Man's heart has a seed of violence and seeks peace and control to ensure their happiness and survival. Few like confrontation and when they see constant bickering and no results they long for someone to end the negativity that surrounds heated emotions. It's funny, because there was a Star Wars bonanza this weekend. I really watched the movies with the idea of seeing the messages (I've done this before, but it's fresh in my mind) and this beautiful powerful soul, Anakin Skywalker is played by the dark side using Palpatine aka Lord Sidious to pollute his mind and heart. Out of a love for his wife he ends up killing her, betraying everything he believed in (unconditional love and service to others) and did terrible things. It's like, in the Lord of the Ring had the hobbit, Frodo, in a time of crisis decided to put on the ring and use it and be the Emperor, but of course that doesn't happen.

Is it wrong to want to save your loved one from dying? No, but is it wrong to save your loved one from dying by shooting someone else who is innocent?

There you go. Good messages can be used to pollute, manipulate, and eventually destroy people. That's the problem I have with people who by their very words and actions betray and show themselves to be dishonorable.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Mozart (here)

With all due respect, I call this what you said above to be bullsh!t. Wilcock never did make such a prediction -- it was a woman, a one "Blossom Goodchild" who made this prediction, not Wilcock, man.

I have just skimmed through the OP and I don't have time to look into each allegation (I'm busy building a garden from scratch), but I do know for a fact that this Oct 14th, 2008 one is bullsh!t, so I wanted to make that very clear.

~Mozart

Hey mate,

With all due respect, you are wrong.

"...remember back a couple months ago David Wilcock predicted on the coast-to-coast a.m. radio show that Obama would have full UFO disclosure by the end of 2009?"

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage954655/pg1

"Another source is David Wilcock, a prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms. Wilcock has been told by additional independent sources that extraterrestrial disclosure will take place by the end of 2009. He furthermore claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio interview that “a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/offi...fe-is-imminent

David Wilcock: Full Disclosure and Introduction to ET by years end? 7-10-2009

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread508356/pg1

I remember listening to this show and he confirmed Goodchild´s prediction, but said that his "sources" indicated him about this possibility instead.

Cheers,

Raf.

[promezeus]

Ok here’s an analogy. Someone researches the history of the sun rising and determines that it has risen every day since the beginning of recorded time. Then he has a dream where he is told that the sun is not going to rise tomorrow. So he publishes that prediction. But the sun does rise the next day. So would that negate all the scientific research he has done? Of course not. His scientific research stands on its own merits. But that is exactly the argument being made here to discredit Wilcock’s scientific research on 2012. We need more discernment here ...or as Bill Ryan says: Wake up, people! lol

[Avocadess]

Frozen Alchemy: Two of my eight posts were simply copying and pasting the only information I could find on Drake's new website -- which I found difficult to find and thought it might be helpful to share along with direct links (since this is the Drake update thread).

I don't really understand your other question. I have been talking about different aspects of things on each post as far as I know -- with one or two being direct responses to other people's posts.

I have mentioned several times that I do not have special insider information. I do have the interest and have had the time to reflect on the information that as far as I can tell many have NOT listened to. (Note how Kerry Cassidy posted misinformation about Drake over a month ago and then repeated the same misinformation last week -- but also ADMITTED that she has not been listening to hardly anything and has next to nothing to base her accusations on.)

I feel Kerry has been far from alone in a rush to judgment about the information Drake has been disseminating. I also have seen a lot of people on this website call Drake a savior or guru clearly as a putdown -- and so I also like to point out the things that I disagree with Drake about (to also show that the accusation that I see him as a savior or guru is far from reality).

I am very aware that many if not most people will or do or can not take the time to listen to all the information and/or they are unable to listen because they are deaf. They have kids or jobs or situations that do not allow them the time (or they are still conditioned to sound byte thinking and haven't more than a 10-minute concentration factor). Since I have been and do listen to all or nearly all of it, and because I am able to write in a way to help others get the gist of things, I do what I can to share on a topic I feel a passion about.

Eight posts in 3 pages too many? I had not posted here hardly at all for a period of time although I was the one that started this thread; therefore I have also had some catching up to do. I'm sure you will be able to find many pages in he past 15 or so where I posted not at all.