Mass Arrests – But What Then?

[karelia]

EnergyGardener,
Thank you for those links! I just clicked on the first one. The reason I totally missed that was because I was in the middle of moving from one continent to another and spent weeks without internet access. I will remedy that in the morning (it's past midnight here, and I'm ready to go to sleep).

[Neptun]

The Germans were deprogrammed out of the "We are the Master Race and Jews are rats" to the normal Brave New World program, we are at the influence under right now, that we are living in the free world and the mainstream media tells the truth and the states loves us and it needs more and more of our taxes.

So going from tolitarian facism programming to Brave New World Program and soon, free your mind, everything has been a lie. Welcome to freedom.

[karelia]

Posted by Neptun (here)
The Germans were deprogrammed out of the "We are the Master Race and Jews are rats" to the more normal Brave New World program, we are at the influence under right now.

You call that Brave New World program normal? *shudders*

[Neptun]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)
The Germans were deprogrammed out of the "We are the Master Race and Jews are rats" to the more normal Brave New World program, we are at the influence under right now.

You call that Brave New World program normal? *shudders*

Yes brave new world programming is allot more nicer than Nazis stamping around with their heavy boots in the streets and shooting people if they forgot their papers, even though Brave New World programming is even a bigger prison for the mind.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

Maybe you should watch "Der Ewige Jude" (English subs) the Nazi propaganda movie. It pretty much spells out, what the Nazis thought about Jews:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg6frWBx8g

[spiritguide]

What then??? As maybe the title should read- What now? Reading through the threads of Avalon lately it seems most are waiting for something to spark righteousness to go forward. Each one of us should be acting with virtue in the now and addressing inequity whenever and wherever we see it in our personal environment. Respect others, help others that need it,share instead of hoarding, and most of all Love one another. If we all think and act this way now, the transition will be smoother and this behavior is against the indoctrination we have been subject to for most of our lifetimes. Start working on loosing the EGO and becoming selfless. IMHO

[karelia]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
What then??? As maybe the title should read- What now? Reading through the threads of Avalon lately it seems most are waiting for something to spark righteousness to go forward. Each one of us should be acting with virtue in the now and addressing inequity whenever and wherever we see it in our personal environment. Respect others, help others that need it,share instead of hoarding, and most of all Love one another. If we all think and act this way now, the transition we be smoother and this behavior is against the indoctrination we have been subject to for most of our lifetimes. Start working on loosing the EGO and becoming selfless. IMHO

Agreed. But will the masses do that? Or will they simply shoot the messengers, not matter how kind they are?

[Neptun]

Posted by karelia (here)

Posted by spiritguide (here)
What then??? As maybe the title should read- What now? Reading through the threads of Avalon lately it seems most are waiting for something to spark righteousness to go forward. Each one of us should be acting with virtue in the now and addressing inequity whenever and wherever we see it in our personal environment. Respect others, help others that need it,share instead of hoarding, and most of all Love one another. If we all think and act this way now, the transition we be smoother and this behavior is against the indoctrination we have been subject to for most of our lifetimes. Start working on loosing the EGO and becoming selfless. IMHO

Agreed. But will the masses do that? Or will they simply shoot the messengers, not matter how kind they are?

The media, just like in Nazi Germany keeps the lies alive. The moment the media speaks the truth, they will change reality. Reality is what we see, hear and agree with each other.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Joseph Goebbels

Today we are all Jews living in Nazi Germany!

[foreverfan]

You mean I'll finally get that movement I've been waiting for?

[EnergyGardener]

Too Off-Topic - self edited.

[Snowbird]

Ever since I first heard Drake speaking about all of this, I couldn't help but think that every time he gives an interview, how many of those who will be allegedly arrested have already left the country? How many of those learjets have taken off from the U.S., never to return? If I was guilty of atrocities (which thankfully I'm not) and I heard someone like Drake telling of my demise, my learjet would be the second in line for take off only to be preceded by Air Force One.

As I was driving home tonight I was wondering how businesses will cope if many of their employees discover that they no longer have to work. Its coming.

[Neptun]

Snowbird,

Sure but where will they hide? The world has become a very small place lately.

I personally don't mind the bad guys get total amnesty and we forget about the thousands of years oppression and focus on a free humanity.

It takes 2 to a tango and the sheeple have proven to me they are bad guys hidden in wool with their "ignorance is bliss" ridicule style.

Ignorance is treason!

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by Neptun (here)
Snowbird,

I personally don't mind the bad guys get total amnesty and we forget about the thousands of years oppression and focus on a free humanity.

You will find few to support you on this issue, except I am sure, the "bad guys." As for me, they are "outta here."

It takes 2 to a tango and the sheeple have proven to me they are bad guys hidden in wool with their "ignorance is bliss" ridicule style.

Ignorance is treason!

Speak for yourself, again. How long ago did you depart from your ignorance / treasonous behavior?

[Snowbird]

Posted by Neptun (here)
Snowbird,

Sure but where will they hide? The world has become a very small place lately.

I personally don't mind the bad guys get total amnesty and we forget about the thousands of years oppression and focus on a free humanity.

It takes 2 to a tango and the sheeple have proven to me they are bad guys hidden in wool with their "ignorance is bliss" ridicule style.

Ignorance is treason!

Neptun, many of these are filthy wealthy (okay, most of this is stolen goods) and they can buy into any underground rat hole that will accommodate. I'm sure that there are now inner-mountain condos waiting for the very rich and very guilty. With enough money to pay off enough people to keep you hidden, one could hide for a very long time in relative comfort. Hitler and his henchmen did it.

Will our military go looking in these rat holes that are located out across the pond? I seriously doubt it.

[foreverfan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by karelia (here)
These are just a very few issues that I think are really, really in dire need of addressing as soon as this Project Clean-up starts,

David Wilcock, having been chosen by the ancient dynastic families of the planet, as well as the consortium of 143 aligned nations against the cabal, as well as the global judicial adjudicators, to be the central liaison for the greatest transformation in the history of planet earth, is taking care of all of that.

I'd say it's all under control.

Well at least he does look like Cayce. That much is true.

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Snowbird (here)
Will our military go looking in these rat holes that are located out across the pond? I seriously doubt it.

Maybe, the military wont. But, there are our friends/family "upstairs" that have no qualms about it. As they say "No Where To Run, No Where To Hide" and, they mean it.

[Mozart]

Edit:

Excellent thread idea, Karelia.

I actually think that this post that I did in the tail end of the "MAJOR EVENT" thread fits more in this thread than that one, hence I pasted it here in this thread as well.

If this is not cool, please let me know and I'll remove it, mods.


Gripreaper ~

Your post(#31 in the "MAJOR EVENT" thread) is one that is well-worth reading and researching terms for many people to study, so I recommend that those of you who have read through Gripreaper's post to read it again and again. It's that good.


If I recall correctly, you stated in a previous post/thread that you wanted to leave this forum -- I'm glad that you didn't. We need you here, bro.

Posted by gripreaper (here)
If you are standing outside of commerce as a sovereign and attempting to adjudicate a grievance within a public venue, you are entering into the jurisdiction on the public side. You CANNOT have it both ways. Either you operate in commerce and follow the rule of law laid down over the last 5000 years, or you step outside of commerce and stand sovereign, self determined and self responsible.

That's true -- one cannot have it both ways, but here's why Drake and his loose-knit Robin Hood group (the "Robin Hood" term is my term and it's meant in positive intent) are using the Hague process to stake their claim of sovereignty by rebirthing the Declaration of Independence.


It's this reason: To Win the Crowd.


Many of you have watched the "Gladiator", yes?


Here's a part of the movie that I never forgot:

I, too, want to stand in front of the Emperor.
As you did.
Then listen to me. Learn from me.
I wasn't the best because I killed quickly.
I was the best because the crowd loved me.
Win the crowd, and you'll win your freedom.
I will win the crowd.
I will give them something they have never seen before.

From: http://movie.subtitlr.com/


Movies are frequently messages that are hidden in the symbology of the movie dialogue, the imagery, the scenes, the acting, the props, etc, etc.


"Emperor" = the Pope


"Win the crowd" = Gain the support of the 134+ nation alliance (BRICS alliance) AND the world.


..."something they have never seen before" = Open contact with ETs


I'm going to give my post here a bit of a country flavor to it, I hope that the readers can bear with it.


So the Hague processes, both the declaration and the notification processes, are simply to gain the support of the world in terms of THEIR perceptions of the idea of "rule of law". We need to win the crowd of the world.


Our original Declaration of Independence had the power to create a nation, did it not? The power of it, the idea of it, the audacity of it to create a nation of sovereign people, banded together as "We the People" standing free from the Canon-law based reach of the Pompous Pope (Emperor) was strong enough to create a brand-new nation.


Did it go through any sort of color-of-law process? No -- all it had was what makes all legitimate contracts all over the world work -- signatures. It was the Signatories -- 56 of them -- who gave it life and the power to birth a new nation under God with Liberty and eff'n true Justice for all.


So that's part of what the Hague process does -- it gives us "legitimacy" through the eyes of the people of the world, with the help of the Indigenous Natives of Turtle Island, to rebirth our Declaration by standing up to the damn pompous Pope and the Illoonynaughties that we will no longer be their slaves and serfs.


And you know what? Canon law is bull**** -- we don't give a rat's ass about some damn "contract" that was imposed upon us way back in the Seventeenth Century. And why does it not apply to us? We are not Signatories to it!


Our signatures are the golden key to the entire world of commerce, so it's why the world of commerce has tricked many of us into false, hidden and implied contracts. Once the truth cat is out of the bag, there ain't any way that we can drag that cat back into the bag. No way.


The Pompous Pope has no claim over us(the People); the Illoonynaughties have no claim over us; the Queen of England has no claim over us -- all of those claims are bogus and no longer stand because they've stood on a foundation of lies, deceit and brutal applications of FORCE to trick the people into voluntary subjugation/servitude to those money masters.


FORCE is the only thing that the Money Masters understand, as they've used that aspect against us, the People of the world, many, many times, so now it's time to turn the tables and apply the same thing to those bastards and win back our freedom by FORCE that will have been legitimized by the Hague process, by the un-rebuttable liens against the Federal Reserve and the full support of the 134-nation BRICS alliance.

It is my understanding that the shadow economy and the shadow black projects and the black screens were put in place as a global initiative to siphon off the resources and production of the open economy to deal with international issues facing mankind in reference to the supposed “threat” posed by the entrance of ET’s back in 1930’s when the global scientists screwed up the space time continuum at Montauk, and blew a hole in the protective shield around this planet and space ships began to re-enter our 3D dimension.

Yes, there was a hole in the space-time continuum at Montauk, but it happened on August 13, 1943 and a nasty creature did come through and trash the base and kill most of the people who were there that day; however, it did not create a massive rip in the fabric of space-time for the whole planet -- so I wanted to clear that bit up.


And spaceships did not enter, either, because of the quarantine that is in effect around our entire planet and it's maintained by the "Council of Saturn" -- a council of EDs (Extra-Dimensionals), so this quarantine severely limits the number of negative ETs that would enter our planetary sphere and brutally subjugate us beyond belief ... WAY worse than how the Illoonynaughty bastards treated us. WAY WORSE.


This quarantine is still in effect today. Only a few UFOs of negative intent were allowed to enter our skies and mess with us. The vast majority of sighted UFOs are of our own origin, human-made, that are reverse-engineered craft, plus a few home-grown ones based on Tesla technology and Thomas Townsend Brown.

This was such a gargantuan effort and it was determined at the time that it would be best to keep this “other set of books” out of the public domain because mankind was not ready for such a disclosure, and would require an economy at least 100 times that of the open economy. This was set up and discussed at the first Bilderberg meeting and all of the G-20 nations were a part of it.

Yes, this "gargantuan effort" did happen, but it was not a result of the rip of the space-time fabric from the Montauk Project. It was the result of the 1954 meeting of the ETs, Eisenhower and others at the then Muroc AFB, which is now Edwards AFB, in which the negative ETs (Zeta Reticulans) made a deal with the corporate US government to trade off some advanced ET-based technology for a resource that was precious to the negative ETs ... our DNA.


The positive ETs were there, too, and they made their views clear to Eisenhower and others there, but the lure of the hyper-advanced ET technologies was just too enticing to the military-industrial complex, so they took the bait.


What the neg ETs told Eisenhower was that in the end of 2012, there would be a massive catastrophe wiping out the vast majority of those on Earth, leaving only a few survivors. The Pentagon fell for that lie. So the Pentagon did what it does best: dig trenches. And dig it did -- thousands of miles of tunnels all over the world and entire cities underground -- hence the DUMBs all over the world. Many of them -- well over 50 major ones -- have been destroyed by the ETs, so having the damn Illoonynaughties going underground to save their asses is no longer an option.


The negative ETs did tell a truth, but it was only a part of a truth about the end of 2012, which is the catastrophic Timeline Two that would happen at the end of 2012; however, if our world really was on the Timeline Two path, the sheer level of horrible, negative events that would have transpired by now would be utterly astonishing -- way worse than the darkest, nastiest Hollywood dark-future scenarios ever portrayed on the silver screen to date. And that's before the really big events, like a pole shift and other nasty surprises.


But, thank God, thank our good-guy ETs, thank Council of Saturn and thank YOU, those who are awakening, our whole planet is strongly onto Timeline One, which is a timeline in which we not only defeat the damned Illoonynaughties, the Pompous Pope and throw off our yoke of involuntary servitude -- we will have full contact with our ET buddies, will have the long-suppressed 5,000+ free energy devices that had been attempted to be patented to be released, will have our stolen funds returned to us and will have many more wonderful events that would bring joy to our world.


Real joy. Real relief. Real hope. Real change. For everyone, everywhere.


So, seriously, folks, we are solidly on Timeline One. This is another subject for another post that I have in mind and it's pretty much already composed in my mind ... plus a bunch of other posts that are bugging me to type them to life in this and other forums.

A new paradigm would require many self realized and self determined individuals to awaken and demand the release of the stellar technologies which have been hidden, and virtually eliminate commerce and the "weights and measures” system of this planets resources, and the accounting of who owns what and how that is to be distributed based on what?

*snip*

What Drake and Wilcock are putting forth is not enough to base any such new paradigm upon. So far there is not enough information, and no one can be arrested without “charges” being filed judicially, and evidence submitted. Do we want to go down that road of adjudicating within the old system or do we want to create a new paradigm?

As I understand it, the new system will be based on what has been agreed-upon by the 134-nation alliance -- the BRICS alliance -- and they are already determined to make it transparent, fair, balanced and other laudable aspects. These are the disenfranchised nations that have suffered massively and brutally under the brutal tyranny of the Illoonynaughty bastards, so the LAST thing that this alliance would want to create is more tyranny.

Let’s NOT repeat what we created back then on Atlantis, the total deluge and nuclear destruction of our planet. The elementals don't like being manipulated. We are standing on the very same precipice now as we did back then.

I totally agree. Yes we have been standing on the very same precipice of utter self-destruction that we did in not only Atlantis, but also Mars with the destruction of the Martian atmosphere 75,000 years ago, plus the complete destruction of Maldek 500,000 years ago. The Asteroid Belt is the remnants of the blown-up Maldek.


So given the violent history of this solar system, our Source, our Creator, decreed that Earth was not to be destroyed. Period. And she won't be -- guaranteed.

Let’s go for the enlightened and awakened paradigm of the internal power, drawn from the source field and emanated outward into our collective dream, and shun and reject the technological paradigm being fed to us in its many mutations. We KNOW in our hearts that this is correct.

Absolutely! I totally agree! In fact it is the sheer numbers of people who are already awake and who are in the process of awakening that has allowed our Earth to survive and to shift solidly onto the wonderful Timeline One, instead of the horrible Timeline Two.


So to those of you who have been slogging through many years of suffering the yokes of tyranny, of wars, of injustice, of planetary destruction, etc and insisted on recycling your stuff, cutting down consumption, on reading spiritual materials, on meditating, on shifting your own paradigms ... it's because of you that triggered our ETs to decisively intervene on our behalf recently and now, so now we are on the verge of the greatest events that will have yet to unfold in human history in our collective throwing off the yokes of tyranny and of commercial oppression.


THANK YOU, People! I really can't thank you enough for doing your part.

[modwiz]

Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
To reply to the original post on this: after the mass arrests, then what?
I have not seen any discussion on this - are they using the existing legal system or not? As in, are they going to lock them up and throw away the key, or will there be due process, trial by jury, etc?

If the latter, then after the mass arrests, you get... a bail hearing... lawyers... charges under existing law... etc. etc.
Not very exciting, but there you are.

Or, are we going to create a whole new legal system for these mass arrests?

Those are the two alternatives.

Unless this is explained, I am afraid that I don't find the whole mass arrests thingy very compelling. It justs begs the question, and then what?

In simple common law terms: Was any harm done or property damaged or stolen? These are the basic premises for common law IIRC. Bail is a business and part of the BS admiralty laws. There are whole sections of society that are part of conspiracies that have done many of us harm and/or created damage to property/belongings. Law is only complicated when is is legalism and created as a business to begin with. Legalism allows lawyers to get between aggrieved parties. Jesus counseled to settle with your fellow and stay out of courts. He was referring to the legalism of his day which is the crap we have been mired in under the name of due (doo) process and justice. I hope he was not the only one to see the scam for what it is, but he is on record for saying it, which is why I quote him. I am stuck for another to fill in here.

[Mozart]

Posted by foreverfan (here)

Well at least he does look like Cayce. That much is true.

Actually, Foreverfan,

It's way more than just that.

Wilcock's astrological chart is a virtual match of Cayce's chart.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-he...recapitulation

From the date of Cayce's birth and 127 years into the future, there was only ONE day that could offer the exact kind of chart that David Wilcock needed to line up his chart to nearly exactly match up with Cayce -- March 8th, 1973.

ONE day out of 127 years ... 43,355 days.

And guess what -- Wilcock was born on THAT day, March 8th, 1973 ... with the exact time on that day that he needed to have his Moon match up as well.

Not only that, Wilcock was Ra-Ta in another previous lifetime and that lifetime started the whole, damn Illoonynaughty ball going, so it's partly his karma to work his ass off in this lifetime to bring about the defeat of the damned Illoonynaughties.

~Mozart

[Neptun]

Posted by EnergyGardener (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)
Snowbird,

I personally don't mind the bad guys get total amnesty and we forget about the thousands of years oppression and focus on a free humanity.

You will find few to support you on this issue, except I am sure, the "bad guys." As for me, they are "outta here."

It takes 2 to a tango and the sheeple have proven to me they are bad guys hidden in wool with their "ignorance is bliss" ridicule style.

Ignorance is treason!

Speak for yourself, again. How long ago did you depart from your ignorance / treasonous behavior?

I saw "the Matrix" and felt it was on to something and began looking for the real Matrix. I searched and found "The Road to Tyranny"

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMyH8eOHKs

It is pretty hardcore, compared to the soft movies he has made lately. It was an instant wake up call. My hair stood up for 2½ hours like I was electroshocked with truth. My friend felt the same way.

At that time no one talked about conspiracies in my country and my friend and I thought it would be a walk in the park to wake up Denmark. We burned around 1000 cds with this movie and gave them to people on the street etc. all our friends and family got them, I even visited a political party in Denmark and some organizations.

We thought people would watch them and give the cds to others or copy them and do the same and within few months the entire nation would wake up. We learned fast about how people willfully want to stay in the Matrix of control. I have told the same people for over 10 years the same things and they are still in denial even when i can prove stuff to them. They refuse to wake up. That is willfully ignorance and treason! They are like Nazis!

These people are no different than the Elite. They go along with whatever the system says and would report people and send them to FEMA camps, if they were told to.

The Nazis working at the Deathcamps were normal German people with families. For them it was just a job they had to do. In other words, they were sheep!

I have pushed these sheeple to a confession and they tell me they don't care what happens to others, as long as they are safe.

See something, say something

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."

-- Michael Rivero

If the Elite are going to prison for life, allot of cowards and willfully ignorant that supported them should go too. It is better to give them amnesty and blame our selves for how far we have allowed this BS to go on.

"The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." - Thomas Jefferson

[Mozart]

Here's the Top Ten List:


1) Announce meetings in your local areas -- in parts of cities, in your rural areas, etc -- to gather people together and get some dialogue going to help them understand what is going on.


2) Tell everyone to relax, to take deep breaths, to chill out, to take a moment and take in the historic moments that would be happening in our world. Chill out and take a break!


3) Don't fret about rushing your kids off to school, especially if they are public indoctrination prison/propaganda schools. Have your kids take a couple of weeks off.


4) Connect with your friends, connect with your neighbors, connect with new friends, discover your neighborhood and connect with people, real people, on the streets, on the Internet, etc. Reach out. Connect.


5) Watch TV and the new information that would be aired in the one-week intensive right after the mass arrests, plus the months-long intensives of the re-education / awakening of the once-dumbed-down masses about the truths of the Illoonynaughties. Talk to people about them.


6) With ANY color-of-law government agent who tries to tell you what to do -- beit county, state or federal, challenge them with the Quo Warranto concept. Google up " Quo Warranto " and learn to use it against them.



7) With the money that you'd receive from the Global Settlement Accounts, use it to pay off personal debts that you may owe to real people, to make good with agreements that you may have made with real people, to help others, to invest into free energy companies that would be taking off like a bat out of hell.



8) Immediately plant hemp wherever you can -- your land, on a neighbor's land, on your local garden patch, you name it. Get them hemp plants going!


9) Read, study and share all about our REAL past, our exciting present and our tremendously exciting future, now that the Illoonynaughty bastards will have been removed FOREVER.


10) Relax. Take deep breaths. Go for walks. Meditate. Feel the joy of our victory over the dark bastards.