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    Default The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race

    As long as humanity has kept records of its existence, legends of a serpent race have persisted. These myths tell of a mysterious race of superhuman reptilian beings who descended from the heavens to participate in creating humankind and to teach the sciences, impart "forbidden knowledge", impose social order, breed with, and watch over us.

    "...at the core of the human brain lies a vestige of our reptilian past. This part of the brain. known as the R-complex (reptilian complex), is said to be the part of the brain that performs the dinosaur functions: aggressive behaviour, territoriality, ritual, and establishment of social hierarchies..."

    Did Humans Evolve from Reptiles?
    These serpent-like beings were not alone, but were part of a retinue of super beings thought to be Gods by the ancients. Yet, in cultures as widespread and diverse as those of Sumeria, Babylonia, Europe, India, Egypt, China, Japan, Mexico and Central America, reptilian Gods have been both feared and worshipped. To this day the dragons, or serpent, signifies divine heritage and royalty in many Asian countries, while in the West, the serpent represents wisdom and knowledge.

    The symbol of two serpents coiled around a staff (originally signifying the Tree of Knowledge of ancient myth), known as the caduceus, is today used by the American Medical Association as its logo.

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    Interestingly, stories of reptilian beings who exercise mind control over human captives while performing medical procedures on them have been emerging from the research of some of the best known UFO investigators, such as Budd Hopkins, John Carpenter, Linda Moulton-Howe, Yvonne Smith and others, and notably David Icke. These stories, told by average, mentally competent people, have emerged independently of one another in different parts of the world, and are only just receiving much public attention. They tell of human encounters with creatures that have distinctly reptilian features: webbed, claw-like hands, large golden eyes and vertically slit pupils, and scaly, greenish-brown lizard-like skin. Such stories have circulated around the UFO research community for many years, but few experts have had any idea of how to interpret the tales.

    So unbelievable and so frightful are they that in the past, many researchers merely filed them away in their minds for future reference rather than risk looking foolish or being ridiculed. Little by little, at UFO conferences around the world, abductees and researchers learned of each other's similar experiences with reptilian creatures, and gradually the stories have become more public.

    Today, researchers agree that there are a variety of entities involved in the alien abduction scenario, including the familiar and various species of greys; tall, human-looking blondes; the reptilians; and the hybrids (half-human and half-alien). In addition, there seem to be variations of each of these (eg, half-grey half-reptilian), that imply cross-breeding and considerable diversity.

    It is not clearly understood how each type interacts with the others, although they are often reported seen together.

    MUFON's Findings
    John Carpenter has kept close track of the abduction phenomenon. He is the director of abduction research for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), one of the largest and most credible organisations dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs and abductions. Carpenter holds a master's degree in social work and is a highly qualified hypnotherapist who works a s psychiatric social worker in Springfield, Missouri.

    Since the late 1980s, he has worked with more than 100 abductees and compiled information on hundreds of others. In addition, he has been involved in 10 cases where abductees have described reptilian entities, and he is aware of researchers in other parts of the country with similar cases. These abductees often have distinct claw-like cuts and bruises on their bodies after their apparent abductions.

    Carpenter summarised what he knows of these beings in his regular column, Abduction Notes, MUFON UFO Journal, April 1993: "Typically, these reptilian creatures are reported to be about six to seven feet tall, upright, with lizard-like scales, greenish to brownish in colour with claw-like, four-fingered webbed hands... Their faces are said to be a cross between a human and a snake, with a central ridge coming down from the top of the head to the snout. Adding to their serpent-like appearance are their eyes which have vertical pupils and golden irises."

    Perhaps the most frightening and controversial part of these stories are claims that the creatures are occasionally reported to have sex with abductees.

    Supporting Carpenter's findings is a MUFON study that had financial assistance from the Fund for UFO Research. This massive study, known as the Abduction Transcription Project, is an attempt to collect and correlate information on thousands of abduction cases through the use of a sophisticated computer database. In July 1995, at the organisation's symposium in Seattle, Washington, Dan Wright summed up the findings based on 142 separate cases and 560 transcripts. Wright said, "A fair reading of those sessions indicates strongly that multiple groups of entities have been routinely intruding into the lives of Americans, children as well as adults... When a so-called reptilian is repeatedly described as having the same scaly skin tone, claws for fingers, and an extreme interest in sexuality, one must pay attention."

    The study's preliminary results indicate that reptilian types have been reported in a relatively small percentage (less than 20 per cent) of the cases being studied.

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    Not of this Galaxy
    Whether the beings reported by abductees are Greys, blondes, reptilians, or any other variety, the scenario of the abduction phenomenon is fairly consistent among the thousands of cases studied thus far. In addition to having numerous medical procedures performed on them, abductees also report receiving information in the form of symbols or images, the meaning of which is often unclear, but much of it has to do with future Earth disasters. The beings sometimes refer to themselves as the "Watchers, Custodians, or Guardians of mankind" and all living things on Earth, and they say they are preparing for the time in the near future when global changes will dramatically affect life on our planet. In some cases they have indicated that they come from various parts of the Universe, including other galaxies, or from "A very distant place."

    In what is certainly the most disturbing aspect of the procedures reported, both men and women abductees - but most often women - report being shown rooms filled with hundreds of glass tubes where hybrid foetuses are being grown, much like a hydroponic garden. In many cases, abductees are shown nurseries of hybrid infants or rooms full of hybrid children of varying ages. Often the beings bring an infant or a child to the women to be held and loved, and they are told that it is their child.

    These events were reported by alien abductee Betty Andreasson Luca, whose case has been the subject of investigation for more than 20 years, and who has been the subject of four books by UFO investigator Ray Fowler. In his book The Watchers, Fowler reports on a hypnosis session in which Betty remembered being told by the beings who had taken her aboard their ship that, "Man will become sterile" because of the polluted environment. Further, she is told that there are "Good and bad Watchers," which Betty refers to as "Angels."

    She is warned that there are some who are, "Against man, that will hurt man and destroy man."

    Dead Sea Scrolls Evidence
    References to Watchers, good and bad angels, and hybrid babies can be found in many ancient texts including the Old Testament, which borrowed much from older documents, including the books of Enoch. The prophet Enoch is mentioned in Genesis as the son of Cain and the father of Methuselah, and he is believed to be one of the antediluvian (pre-flood) patriarchs who, along with Noah, "walked with God" (Genesis 5:24; 6:9). Books written by anonymous writers but credited to Enoch were given great credence by early Jewish scholars and thus influenced the writers of the Old Testament. Parts of the books of Enoch written in Aramaic were found among the scraps of parchment in the caves of Qumran in 1947, having been placed there nearly 2,000 years ago by a Jewish sect known as the Essenes. These, of course, are the Dead Sea Scrolls. Another version exists in Ethiopian.

    According to the Aramaic texts, "Enoch was the first among the children of men born of the Earth who had learned writing, science, and wisdom?from the angels. In one writing, the Book of the Watchers, we learn that the Watchers are angels and that there are good and bad Watchers. We are told that the Watchers are angels of the Lord, "come down to Earth to instruct the children of men and to bring about justice and equity on Earth." But in the case of the wicked or bad angels, the science they teach turns to wicked ends because of their sins.

    Their sin is that they permit their sexual appetite to dominate them: "When the evil Watchers descended and beheld the daughters of man, they began to corrupt themselves with them. When the sons of God saw the daughters of man, they could not restrain their inclination."

    These Watchers fall from grace with God when Enoch travels to heaven in physical form to testify against them. He tells God that the Watchers "have begun to go unto the daughters of men so that they became impure." As punishment for the sins of the evil Watchers against humankind, God destroys humanity, including the hybrid race of beings who are the offspring of humans and Watchers, by causing a great flood. The evil Watchers are put into a fiery pit and imprisoned by the four chiefs of the good Watchers, the archangel Michael, Sariel, Rafael, and Gabriel.

    Another interesting reference to the Watchers was found in the same cave as the books of Enoch, but was not known until 1992 when two biblical scholars, Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise, published their book, The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered.

    Among the 50 documents released for the first time in this book is a reference to the Watchers that is unique, for it provides one of the few physical descriptions of them. The text, called the "Testament of Amram," describes the experience of a person named Amram in which "an angel and a demon" were wrestling over his soul: "I saw Watchers in my vision, the dream -vision. Two 'men' were fighting over me. I asked them, "who are you, that you are thus empowered over me?" They answered me, "We have been empowered and rule over all mankind." They said to me, "which of us do you choose to rule you?" I raised my eyes and looked. One of them was terrifying in his appearance, like a serpent, his cloak many coloured yet very dark... And I looked again, and... in his appearance, his visage like a viper... I replied to him, "This Watcher, who is he?" He answered me, "This Watcher,... and his three names are Belial and Prince of Darkness and King of Evil." [But which Watcher is he really referring to here as the Prince of Darkness? It is certainly open to interpretation. Indeed, possibly the last great prejudice humankind must learn to overcome is the physical appearance of others, ie "Good" is associated with beauty whereas "Evil" is perceived as ugly... and vice versa - Ed].

    What makes this testament even more intriguing is the fact that this little-known character named Amram is quite an important personage. Amram, it turns out, was the father of one of the most famous contactees in history, the man who delivered the Jews from slavery in Egypt. This person is, of course, none other than Moses!

    Extraterrestrial Reptilian Gods
    If that were the only reference to reptilian beings in ancient texts it could easily be dismissed, but the stories of such creatures date back to the earliest human writings, those of Sumer (meaning "Land of the guardians", Babylon (meaning "Gate of the gods", and other civilisations of ancient Mesopotamia. Among the thousands of clay tablets that have been recovered and translated dating from earliest recorded history, are documents that record events dating back 240,000 years. One of these, the "Sumerian King" list, tells the story of the god, An, chief god of an extraterrestrial race called the Annunaki, and his sons, Enki and Enlil. It is clear from the texts and the illustrations left by the Sumerians that at least some of these "Gods," including Enki (also known as EA), were reptilian in appearance. It is Enki who gave the first people the fruit of the tree of knowledge and who later saved humanity by warning a Noah-like figure of the great flood.

    These stories are so similar to the Old Testament that one can only conclude that the Old Testament authors borrowed heavily from them. In the Sumerian tale, Enki is given the task of creating a worker force to help the Annunaki till the soil and mine the ore for which they came to Earth. This he does through considerable trial and error, in the process creating strange creatures.

    The legend implies that Enki possessed a highly advanced technology that included the capability of genetically altering the indigenous species. Using a mysterious process to create a clay-like substance, he was able to "bind upon it the image of the gods," indicating that Enki used Annunaki genes to create a hybrid species. It also implies that some of the early humans may have had a reptilian appearance.

    Our Reptilian Ancestors
    As ridiculous and repugnant as this sounds, it is commonly accepted by modern science that humankind's early ancestors may have been reptiles. According to the Darwinian explanation of the origins of the human species, mammals evolved from reptiles and gained dominion over the Earth only after a great disaster of debatable nature destroyed the dinosaurs. It is theorised that only then were mammals able to proliferate and ultimately evolve into intelligent beings.

    It is rather remarkable that the ancient Sumerian story of creation should parallel so closely the Darwinian view. In both cases humans are said to be related to a superior reptilian race and, in both cases, a great cataclysm eradicates the earlier species. (In the Bible, it was the hybrid race of giants known as the Nephilim that God wished to destroy.) Finally, in both stories, the survivors of the disaster start anew, eventually evolving into humans.

    In his book, The Dragons of Eden, esteemed astronomer, the late Dr. Carl Sagan, speculated on the reptilian origins of humans and on the mysterious leap in brain evolution that can be found in the fossil record. He noted that if people had evolved naturally from reptiles, as Darwinists claim, it should have taken 200 million years for mammals to first evolve, and then another five to 10 million years for humans to evolve. But he noted with extreme puzzlement that the fossil record simply does not bear out this conclusion. In fact, the evolvement of mammals, and particularly humans, was accomplished very quickly, "in a major burst of brain evolution."

    The evidence for this is clear in the fact that stone tools do not appear gradually, but rather "they appear in enormous abundance all at once." In frustration Sagan concluded that "there is no way to explain this unless Australopithecines had educational institutions," to teach toolmaking. Of course there is another explanation, but not one any mainstream scientist would dare consider. That alternative is to admit that God or god-like beings had a hand in accelerating the evolutionary process.

    The Reptile Part of the Brain
    Sagan went on to puzzle over the similarities between the reptilian and human brain. He pointed out that at the core of the human brain lies a vestige of our reptilian past. This part of the brain, known as the R-complex (reptilian complex), is said to be the part of the brain that performs the dinosaur functions: "aggressive behaviour, territoriality, ritual, and establishment of social hierarchies. The middle layer is called the limbic system, and is thought to generate love, hate, compassion, and sentimentality, characteristics believed to be strictly mammalian.

    The largest part of the human brain, the neocortex or outer layer, is believed to be the home of reasoning and deliberation and "the place where we know the difference between good and evil."

    Once again, science seems to agree with the ancient creation myths, for it was the knowledge of good and evil (given to them by a serpent) that caused first woman and man to fall from grace with their creator. If the creator was reptilian, then it could be that by becoming mammalian "and developing a neocortex" humanity became less reptilian, thus falling from grace.

    Other ancient texts bear out this disturbing conclusion. In 1945, in a small town in Egypt, a clay jar was found bearing ancient scrolls similar to the Dead Sea Scrolls. These are known as the Nag Hammadi texts, named after the town where they were found. They tell the story of human creation this way: The bodies of Adam and Eve were overlayed with a horny skin that was bright as daylight, like a luminescent garment. Thus it seems, they didn't need clothing.

    Further, these texts tell a far different story about the tree of knowledge than that told in Genesis: "She took some of its fruit and ate, and she gave to her husband also... then their minds opened. For when they ate, the light of knowledge shone for them. When they saw their makers, they loathed them since they were beastly forms. They understood very much."

    In another ancient Jewish document, known as the Haggadah, it is made clear that the serpent was not merely a snake: "Among the animals, the serpent was notable. Of all of them, he had the most excellent qualities, in some of which he resembled man. Like man, he stood upright on two feet, and in height he was equal to the camel... His superior mental gifts caused him to become an infidel. It likewise explains his envy of man, especially his conjugal visits... ln punishment for tempting Eve, God said, "I created you to be king over all the animals... but you were not satisfied... l created you of upright posture... therefore you shall go upon your belly."

    These tantalising clues from the dim past seem to give at least some support for the idea that today's UFO occupants, reptilian or otherwise, are exactly who they say they are - the ancient guardians of humankind. If that is true, then the theory that some UFOs are piloted by aliens from other planets must be carefully re-evaluated. But whatever the answer is, it is clear that UFO researchers have their hands full in dealing with this enduring and perplexing mystery.

    About the Author
    Dr. Francisco J. (Joe) Lewels is a Vice President at a financial institution in El Paso, Texas who has had a life-long interest in Ufology and other paranormal phenomena. He holds a B.A. in Journalism from Texas Western College, a M.S. in education from Troy State University and a Ph.D. in journalism and mass communication from the University of Missouri. Before entering the world of business, he served as the chairman of the departments of journalism and mass communication at the University of Texas at El Paso for nearly 10 years.

    He attained the rank of captain in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and served as a reconnaissance pilot in the Republic of Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star and Air Medal.

    Dr. Lewels has worked as a writer and editor for various publications including the U.S. Army Aviation Digest magazine and the Freedom of Information Digest and has worked in the areas of advertising and public relations. He also served as a communication consultant at the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C.

    He is the author of many scholarly articles on media law, government censorship and minority access to the media, and his book, Uses of the Media by the Chican Movement, was published by Praeger Publishing Company in 1973.

    In June of 1993, he organised the El Paso chapter of MUFON and together with a team of psychiatrists and hypnotherapists, is conducting research into alien abduction cases in the Southwest and Mexico. To aid him in his research, he completed a course of study and was certified as a licensed hypnotherapist, accredited by the American Board of Hypnotherapy.

    Today, the El Paso Chapter support group meetings conducted by qualified mental health professionals. Dr. Lewels currently serves as a communication consultant to MUFON and as its assistant state director for West Texas and Southern New Mexico.

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    I knew there was a reason I have to suppress the urge to stalk, kill, and swallow whole small animals. Seriously, It was reading that the other day and it made some sense. One of the other articles was talking about how reptiles would have developed more if some catastrophic event had not occurred that caused mammals to develop. Added to that is the interesting fact that reptiles and birds are very similar. As a kid I used to watch a show called Land of the Lost. It included a subterranean race of reptoids called the Sleestak. Here's a post I made today about a reptile experience I had once:

    The most bizarre thing that ever happened to me was sighting a large reptile or lizard in a place where nothing like that was supposed to exist. When I was a teen I lived in southern Turkey. One day after fishing me and a friend of mine were walking back to where our families were camped when we heard a loud hissing noise and the sound of what seemed like a large animal moving through the tall grass. We froze wondering what the heck it could be. When we saw what was making the noise we were astounded to see a large lizard-like creature moving from our right to left about 15m away!

    We were just stunned. This thing was the size of a large dog except low to the ground like a Komodo Dragon. It was green and its skin reminded me of fine feathers like a parrot. It kind of moved similar to ferrets I have seen since then kind of an undulating up and down gate. It stopped kind of facing away from us and then actually barred its teeth and hissed at us. We dropped our fishing poles and ran all the way back to camp. Our parents thought we were making it up but my older brother saw that we were actually afraid. Later he and I went back to retrieve the fishing poles and saw some large burrows in the area but no sign of the creature.

    This incident didn't strike me as being odd since I had lived in the tropics when I was younger and had seen many large iguanas and snakes there. I did go to the trouble of looking to see if any such large reptiles were indigenous to that area but there were none! Maybe I saw some creature that has contributed to the legends of dragons and such.

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    Interesting. I had a thought, as the article is kinda cherry picking or isn’t being very objective, so I googled a few things.

    Like chromosome count of different species and stuff. And brains.

    This is interesting:



    I think we can safely assume that other mammals also have an R cortex (aka. Basal ganglia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia)

    We’re not the only mammals with reptilian “roots”. What about the egg laying mammals?

    It was relatively easy to read, that chimpanzees have 48 chromosomes where as we have 46. A camel has 70, a crocodile 32, a chicken 78, a mosquito 6 and a king crab 208 … and here’s an interesting fact … a potato has the same amount as chromosomes as a chimpanzee! Not exactly enough of a coincident to think the two are related, right?

    Other fun stuff I found

    Planum parietale of chimpanzees and orangutans: a comparative resonance of human-like planum temporale asymmetry.
    Gannon PJ, Kheck NM, Braun AR, Holloway RL.
    Source: Department of Otolaryngology, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York 10029, USA. patrick.gannon@mssm.edu
    Abstract
    We have previously demonstrated that leftward asymmetry of the planum temporale (PT), a brain language area, was not unique to humans since a similar condition is present in great apes. Here we report on a related area in great apes, the planum parietale (PP). PP in humans has a rightward asymmetry with no correlation to the L>R PT, which indicates functional independence. The roles of the PT in human language are well known while PP is implicated in dyslexia and communication disorders. Since posterior bifurcation of the sylvian fissure (SF) is unique to humans and great apes, we used it to determine characteristics of its posterior ascending ramus, an indicator of the PP, in chimpanzee and orangutan brains. Results showed a human-like pattern of R>L PP (P = 0.04) in chimpanzees with a nonsignificant negative correlation of L>R PT vs. R>L PP (CC = -0.3; P = 0.39). In orangutans, SF anatomy is more variable, although PP was nonsignificantly R>L in three of four brains (P = 0.17). We have now demonstrated human-like hemispheric asymmetry of a second language-related brain area in great apes. Our findings persuasively support an argument for addition of a new component to the comparative neuroanatomic complex that defines brain language or polymodal communication areas. PP strengthens the evolutionary links that living great apes may offer to better understand the origins of these progressive parts of the brain. Evidence mounts for the stable expression of a neural foundation for language in species that we recently shared a common ancestor with.


    Neandertal DNA Sequences and the Origin of Modern Humans

    Matthias Krings1, Anne Stone2, Ralf W Schmitz3, Heike Krainitzki4, Mark Stoneking2 and Svante Pääbo1, *,
    1 Zoological Institute, University of Munich, PO Box 202136, D-80021, Munich, Germany
    2 Department of Anthropology, Pennsylvania State University, State College, Pennsylvania 16802, USA
    3 Rheinisches Amt für Bodendenkmalpflege, Endenicher Strasse 133, D-53115, Bonn, Germany
    4 Höhere Berufsfachschule für, präparationstechnische Assistenten, Markstrasse 185, D-44799, Bochum, Germany
    Correspondence: Svante Pääbo, Svante Pääbo, 49 89 590 2298 (phone), 49 89 590 2474 (fax)

    • Abstract
    • DNA was extracted from the Neandertal-type specimen found in 1856 in western Germany. By sequencing clones from short overlapping PCR products, a hitherto unknown mitochondrial (mt) DNA sequence was determined. Multiple controls indicate that this sequence is endogenous to the fossil. Sequence comparisons with human mtDNA sequences, as well as phylogenetic analyses, show that the Neandertal sequence falls outside the variation of modern humans. Furthermore, the age of the common ancestor of the Neandertal and modern human mtDNAs is estimated to be four times greater than that of the common ancestor of human mtDNAs. This suggests that Neandertals went extinct without contributing mtDNA to modern humans.

    http://www.cell.com/retrieve/pii/S0092867400803104?cc=y

    Mitochondrial genome variation and the origin of modern humans

    Support for a recent African origin of modern humans has been provided by a number of mtDNA studies16,17,19,20; however, these results have been troubled by the lack of statistical support for tree topology, especially the deep African branches21,22. Lacking suf®-ciently strong empirical data, it is impossible to con®dently place the root of modern human mtDNA lineages in sub-Saharan Africa. The neighbour-joining23 (NJ) tree constructed from our mtDNA sequences has a strongly supported basal branching pattern (Fig. 2).
    The three deepest branches lead exclusively to sub-Saharan mtDNAs, with the fourth branch containing both Africans and non-Africans. The deepest, statistically supported branch (NJ bootstrap . 100) provides compelling evidence of a human mtDNA origin in Africa. The amount of mtDNA sequence diversity (p) among Africans (3:7 3 1023 nucleotide differences per site) is more than twice that among non-Africans (1:7 3 1023) (Table 1), corroborating earlier studies of the D-loop16 and nuclear loci24. Also notable is the contrast between the deep branches of African mtDNAs and the `star-like' phylogeny of non-African mtDNAs (Fig. 2). This high African diversity might result from either a considerably larger effective population size or a signi®cantly longer genetic history.
    The `star-like' phylogeny of the non-African sequences suggests a population bottleneck, potentially associated with the colonization of Eurasia from Africa. The date of this exodus from Africa can be estimated if the departing group subsequently experienced a population expansion. The mtDNA mismatch distributions for Africans and non-Africans indicate a marked difference in population history for the two groups25 (Fig. 3). Mitochondrial DNAs from individuals of African origin show a ragged distribution consistent with constant population size, whereas the bell-shaped distribution of the non-African comparisons clearly indicates a recent population expansion. The assumption of constant population size can be veri®ed by tests of selective neutrality that examine the correlation between the mean pairwise sequence difference (MPSD) and the number of segregating sites (S)26,27. In the African group, we cannot reject this assumption (Fu and Li's D . 21:17 (ref. 26); Tajima's D . 21:22 (ref. 27)), consistent with the premise that the population has been of roughly constant size .However, it can be rejected in the non-African group (D . 24:02; D . 22:28), indicating that this group has experienced a period of population growth25. The time when the expansion began was estimated (t . 20:23) to be about 1,925 generations ago28. Assuming a generation time of 20 yr this equates to 38,500 yr BP, a date that coincides with the onset of a period of cultural change about 35,000±40,000 years ago29. This involves, for example, the ®rst appearance of regional cultural variation and the acceleration of artefactual change.
    The age of the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for mtDNA, on the basis of the maximum distance between two humans (5:82 3 1023 substitutions per site between the Africans Mkamba and San), is estimated to be 171;500 6 50;000 yr BP. We can also estimate the age of the MRCA for the youngest clade that contains both African and non-African sequences (Fig. 2, asterisk) from the mean distance of all members of that clade to their common node (8:85 3 1024 substitutions per site) as 52; 000 6 27; 500 yr BP. Because genetic divergence is expected to precede the divergence of populations, this date can be considered as the lower bound for an exodus from Africa.

    http://www.bi.ku.dk/dna/course/papers/B1.ingman.pdf


    Differences between human and Chimpanzee genome are bigger than thought

    During the last decade it was commonly accepted that humans and our closest living relatives, chimpanzees, only differed by 1.24 % in our DNA sequences. This discovery shows that this figure is absolutely incorrect and, what is more, may be ten times higher. […]This figure shows how human, chimpanzee and gorilla genomes differ more than thought. In this example, we can see the extreme case of a duplication that has expanded (has increased its number of copies) in the chimpanzee and gorilla genomes, while remaining stable in the human genome, where it is represented by a single copy.

    http://www.upf.edu/cexs/actualitat/c...zeegenome.html

    I hope I’m not the only one who finds some of this kinda contradictive?

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    Wow, I will be spending some time on this thread tonight. Lots of research to be had... A good cross thread for you guys to check out is; - http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...n-by-Reptilian
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    Default Re: The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race

    Chris Everard (in his DVD series Secret Space) talks about the Iraq war being partly about the hunting down and killing of anyone with DNA that can be traced back to the Nephilim or Annunaki, and also mentions the theft of all the artifacts and alien sculptures from that period from their museum.

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    i remember that -- i'd wondered at the time if there is currently a war going on for control of Earth by rival Reptilian -dominated alliances

    & as the Reptilians do things thoroughly , each would want to eliminate all traces of 'enemy' DNA

    under cover of war, when all kinds of nasty things can be done unnoticed in the chaos
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    I like to consider the possibility that the dinosaur "extinction" is inaccurate. It could have been more like a mass die off, but perhaps not an extinction. So if that scenario is true, then how many millions and millions of years would the reptiles that survived have had to grow, evolve and perhaps be subject to their own ET/ED DNA manipulation? This would make these beings so far advanced, it is unfathomable. With that in mind, it is easy to see why the symbolism of serpent beings and bi-pedal reptiles is so pervasive in the human tradition.

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    I like to consider what some have said about humanity being genetically seeded by other races as well........my goodness, how powerful we humans must be as a result. It's no wonder we are being seduced in giving our power away.

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    I like to consider what some have said about humanity being genetically seeded by other races as well........my goodness, how powerful we humans must be as a result. It's no wonder we are being seduced in giving our power away.
    Yes, I often discuss this with my wife.

    I ask her how it is possible to breed a purery japanese woman from a purely negro woman. In my opinion, they are two extreme opposites in physical structure, skin colour, etc.

    I would propose that there were originally at least seven "races" that came to this planet and interbred.

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    being an abductee, one of the favored 20% abducted by Reptilians, i do not believe that Humans were 'seeded' by ETs-- possibly some of our Original Peoples -- 'indigenous' -- were, which is one reason they are being wiped out

    they want you to believe they are gods -- if they can get you to believe they had a hand in creating you, w/the gullibility of Humans, the job's half done

    if they did 'seed' Humanity, you were seeded by some cruel & uncaring ETs

    Earth has been a spiritually dark planet for a long, long time [tho the Light is now growing] -- spiritually dark --- like attracts like

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    Yes, I often discuss this with my wife.

    I ask her how it is possible to breed a purery japanese woman from a purely negro woman. In my opinion, they are two extreme opposites in physical structure, skin colour, etc.

    I would propose that there were originally at least seven "races" that came to this planet and interbred.

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    Default Re: The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race

    Reptilian Hybrid DNA


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    Sebastion, Humans are already very powerful -- why do you think there are so many energetic parasites feeding here?

    it's a form of giving your power away to ascribe Human good qualities to being 'seeded' by someone superior to you

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    I don't recall using any language referring to anyone or anything as being superior or inferior period.


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    it's a form of giving your power away to ascribe Human good qualities to being 'seeded' by someone superior to you

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    Default Re: The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race

    from your post, Sebastion:

    'I like to consider what some have said about humanity being genetically seeded by other races as well........my goodness, how powerful we humans must be as a result.'

    i was trying to say that Humans are already potentially spiritually powerful -- erect spine & Chakras w/Kundalini lying dormant in most

    you don't need to be 'seeded' by ETs to have all that power

    also 'seeded'- the word gives me the creeps -- after the seeding & the growing, the 'harvest' -- a term some Greys use for their gathering of Human & other Animal body parts


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    I don't recall using any language referring to anyone or anything as being superior or inferior period.


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    A teaser for you all...

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    Aghhhhhhhh!!!! That is very "deja-vu" for moir!

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    Pop quiz...can anyone can tell me where this little creature comes from. I'll give you all a hint. It has connections to Japan and New Zealand, as well as Nevada.

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    Default Re: The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race

    Hi KiwiElf,

    Yes, the more you look back, the more you come to the conclusion that what people like Icke have been talking about for a decade or more is true, but no-one wants to say the "R" word after his demonization for talking about it.

    To quote one of my favorite films (My Science Project) "Eat lead Lizard!!"

    Oh darn...I just watched that video and realised I'm Rhesus A-...aaaaaaahhhhh!

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    Sshhhhhh... I may be of reptilian ancestry - we Elves are related ya know!

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