Drake and Teri - a contrary view.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Translation: Nothing of this kind will happen. Wilcock is being taken for a ride, although he's normally pretty smart. It's disinfo, folks. Joel Skousen called it the other day talking to Alex Jones. It's a distracting sideshow. There are very serious issues in the world and (as with Elenin, 11-11-11, etc etc last year), your attention is being diverted.

I really want to believe the whole Drake scenario is happening, but I have chosen to remain neutral. Something that keeps burning in the back of my head that I'm not really seeing anyone discuss unless I missed it, is the huge surge of energy that is coming towards our planet from the center of the galaxy, due to hit by the end of 2012 into I believe March 2013. It's the very reason that solar flares are spiking on the Sun and is the very reason why our DNA structue is changing as we speak.

Is it possible that this story of mass arrests, etc. is merely a distraction to keep us from paying attention to the real story, so that people don't panic? Could it be that when this surge of energy hits, this is when ascension takes place? I know that many channelers seem to proclaim that we will have ET contact and then it is the ET's who help guide us through ascension, but I struggle with that because it goes against what I understand to be the 5D belief of "you are the creator of your own reality and you save yourself" philosophy. Has anybody else thought of this? This question is to all, not just Bill. I'm merely playing off of his thoughts.

I do not fear this scenario as I am comfortable in knowing that I am immortal, I'm just surprised to not see mention of this amongst fellow Avalonians.

[Ishtar]

That's not what I heard, Dreams In Digital... and I can't second guess what he meant. I heard him say that the ETs were going to turn us into what they are .... perhaps we'd better wait for the transcript.

[wynderer]

my post disappeared on me -- i had queried if the Drake thing was a distraction, or a psy-op?

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
That's not what I heard, Dreams In Digital... and I can't second guess what he meant. I heard him say that the ETs were going to turn us into what they are .... perhaps we'd better wait for the transcript.

You have to look at the over all context of what was said during that part of the conversation. Remember we were talking about Metaphoric Language in the other thread? Also the context of what was said during that whole part. I've known for a long time, part of the ET/ED disclosure and contact from the positive ET's is upgrading globally our tech, medical, etc. To bring us to where we were supposed to be by now. That's all he was talking about.

We can wait until someone posts notes though if you want, but seriously we can't take anything out of context. And, that happens way to much here.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Now that Drake has just let the cat out of the bag ~ that the ETs are going to come after the coup and turn us into them ~ I wonder how many will continue to support him?

Who are you again? Can you remind me?

Dennis

[Ishtar]

I am looking at the context... I heard the whole thing...and he wasn't speaking in metaphors. He was talking literally about the timeline of the ETs introducing themselves to the world. He said that first of all, the ETs would arrive but they only would be accessible to a select group at first. After that, we will all get to see them and then they will "change us into what they are."

Those are the words he used.

Seeing as I do know something about the transhuman agenda, my ears pricked up at this.

Why do you think you know what he really meant? Do you know him personally?

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Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Now that Drake has just let the cat out of the bag ~ that the ETs are going to come after the coup and turn us into them ~ I wonder how many will continue to support him?

Who are you again? Can you remind me?

Dennis

Nobody important. Just a poster on here. We haven't met.

[DreamsInDigital]

No I do not know him personally, but I am good at reading people, and their intent. Also, I mentioned about other information about myself in that other thread, as to why I know what I know. Please go find my posts/comments in the thread where we were talking about the metaphoric language, seriously, that is not what he meant by what he said. He meant about upgrading our tech, medical, mentoring us etc. That is what he is talking about, he has also said about this in other interviews, and he said it the way I explained it. I've noticed with Drake, sometimes he words things "oddly".

[aranuk]

Posted by christian (here)
You've got me thinking Bill...

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Nuclear false flag event in the US

We're always only one step away from a false flag event, whatever type and place. The curve is bending towards this tactic becoming useless though, looking back how it evolved over decades, false flag events are identified pretty fast these days, if not even sabotaged beforehand by getting the word out, like when this old US aircraft carrier was stationed within the reach of Iranian missiles.

Fukushima deterioration leading to significant radiation release

Focusing intent on cleaning this is something everybody can do, in this manner Masaru Emoto had buddhist monks clean polluted water. There are surely more 'technical' ways as well to get something done there. Relocating and/or having potassium iodine available may be worth a consideration as well. Plus I am pretty sure we get help from out there to clean up that and chemtrails for example.

Global financial crisis and devaluation of the dollar

When the stability of a currency receives a severe blow, a major pillar of stability in society breaks away and hopefully we the people can compensate that through supporting each other and working together.

Possibility of major earthquake risk (Japan / US West Coast / New Madrid)

Again, focusing on balancing is powerful, supporting each other is essential, relocating is a possibility as well.

Major solar activity (1859-type event, but larger) with anticipated timing Dec 2012 -- Jan 2013.

What do you think about the Electromagnetic Vehicles, that control that activity according to James Horak, who also says, those EMVs willingly use CMEs to shoot down certain satellites. From what I heard James himself directed them to do so in some instances and he pushed the total reset button at 6 previous occasions/incarnations, where societies on earth went down 'too' dark roads, now that's hard to swallow, but history is is a very long time and truth is stranger than fiction. Anyways I don't think, that the sun has no consciousness or will whatsoever and CMEs happen randomly, I think the opposite is true. I can imagine a directed coronal mass ejection to be useful as a reset button, as it might clear every computer hard drive on the planet. I personally prepare for having no electricity or computers etc. available at some point.

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But what about all the desasters that didn't come to pass? Doesn't that show, that the cabal has problems? Why would they have deliberately refrained from releasing a deadly pandemic till now, as more and more people become aware of what's happening behind the scenes. The swine flu / vaccination stuff blew up in their face, what a desaster for them. It's technically possible, to kill masses of us right away, to poison the earth and the food supply and give insiders access to cures and shelter, but they didn't do that. They could have triggered bigger crises in many fields, one could think, which would have furthered their agenda significantly, but that didn't happen. I think their hands are tied in many ways.

If some orchestrated heavily disrupting event would occur, I think the actually present well-informed minority would be totally up in arms to get the word out through every avenue and on the streets to the neighbours and the general population would be rather susceptive, because who wants another world war or some kind of prolonged severe crisis? The prospect of ending a major crisis without too much turmoil by reclaiming sovereignity and removing the criminal shadowy elite from positions of power would be very appealing then to people, who used to be asleep, wouldn't it?

Alex Jones often says from his perspective a majority of members of police and the military are awake. The constitution and many laws have been violated over and over, there just was not enough momentum to arrest the criminals and no judge to rule according to the law. As the number of awake people within the system still grows, the momentum regarding mass arrests must necessarily change and arrests become a real possibility, simply because people remember what is lawful and see that they are in the majority and thus have a backing when it comes to enforcing the law.

Excellent thinking Christian!

Atan

[Fred Steeves]

I'm laughing at myself here, doing the old kids thing eeny meeny mimy mo in deciding which latest red hot Drake thread to mention this, so here is where we wound up. Are we nearing the point yet, where we need to create a new "The Drake Material", right under "The Charles Material"? This may keep many of us good and busy chasing our own tails for some time to come, so for members who weren't here during that episode early last year, take a peak at the recent past, where you stand a darn good chance of seeing our future with this foolishness.

Like Yogi Berra famously quipped: "It's deja vu all over again".

And one more thing. This is not about whether Drake is really a good person or not, and the same with Charles. This is about being distracted from what is truly important.

Cheers All,


Fred

[rmauersr]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
I'm laughing at myself here, doing the old kids thing eeny meeny mimy mo in deciding which latest red hot Drake thread to mention this, so here is where we wound up. Are we nearing the point yet, where we need to create a new "The Drake Material", right under "The Charles Material"? This may keep many us good and busy chasing our own tails for some time to come, so for members who weren't here during that episode early last year, take a peak at the recent past, where you stand a darn good chance of seeing our future with this foolishness.

Like Yogi Berra famously quipped: "It's deja vu all over again".

And one more thing. This is not about whether Drake is really a good person or not, and the same with Charles. This is about being distracted from what is truly important.


Cheers All,


Fred

What is truly important: Only the things we can control.

• Become more self sufficient, less dependent on the systems controlled by the dark side.
• Education. Learn how to live like a poor Mexican. They have the skills we do not.
• Planning how to get quality water, storing water, food, etc.
• Community communication, cooperation
• Stay out of fear

As much as possible detach from the things used by the dark side for control:

• Debt controls nations and individuals.
• Money controls nations.
• Food controls the people.
• Television and mainstream news, the ultimate distractions. Connect the TV to the DVD player and use a pair of scissors to disconnect signals from the outside world.

When talking with those new to ideas discussed on this forum, go slow. Trust your intuition for what you can say. Don't become a preacher. People can only accept a little bit of truth at a time.

The more of these things we do, the harder it will be for the dark side to manipulate us.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by rmauersr (here)
The more of these things we do, the harder it will be for the dark side to manipulate us.

Bravo dear sir, I'd like very much to meet you one day. And have us a nice little chat to boot.

Cheers,
Fred

[Unified Serenity]

Ah yes, Mother monster (Lady Gaga) had a wonderful video all about the new human race which she explained her arrival in a reptilian egg symbolized the birth of a new race within the human race where there would be no discrimination etc.. Now, within can mean a group within a larger group, like moderators among members. Or it can literally mean, a NEW RACE created from our own DNA as they change us into what they want us to be.

The old movie Metropolis comes to mind. All the images of robot plus human engineering. They want us to be good little cogs in their machines and be more than what we are now. Matrix comes to mind of serving a different purpose than what we understand or believe. We, the human race, are already a slave race. We think we have had freedom, but it was taken millenia ago. We do have hope, but most of us have been taught to turn away from the truth. We have been taught to hate the truth. And it is only the truth that will set us free. We will each make our own path, choose our own way, and that will decide our future individually. No one is coming to save us. That was already done long ago.

There are a vast amount of hidden images in this tablet. We have the whole plan, mystery Babylon, DNA manipulation, Reptiles devouring mankind, suffering in torment, Alien raping a woman.... it's all right in front of you:



You can watch his video's that show it all... it's amazing how much is right in front of us, on the street everyday, and we are asleep or refuse the pill of truth.
http://www.jonathankleck.com/dvdproject.htm

[rmauersr]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by rmauersr (here)
The more of these things we do, the harder it will be for the dark side to manipulate us.

Bravo dear sir, I'd like very much to meet you one day. And have us a nice little chat to boot.

Cheers,
Fred

Yes that would be nice, if I ever visit Florida again.

[sdv]

I really want to believe the whole Drake scenario is happening, but I have chosen to remain neutral. Something that keeps burning in the back of my head that I'm not really seeing anyone discuss unless I missed it, is the huge surge of energy that is coming towards our planet from the center of the galaxy, due to hit by the end of 2012 into I believe March 2013. It's the very reason that solar flares are spiking on the Sun and is the very reason why our DNA structue is changing as we speak.

Yep we are playing in la la land instead of dealing with what is really happening (verifiable). The three monkey syndrome?
Last night I was speaking about solar flares and how the Sun had just belched again and someone mentioned that he had no idea that the Sun is so active at present, but he had wondered why he had felt an electric shock when he touched his car the morning before (when the energy from the last belch reached us).
I don't want to stick my head in the sand and pretend that there is not something going on in our Solar System, Galaxy and Universe that will profoundly affect Earth and humanity. It might not be a big deal, but then it might be. The consequences of pretending nothing is happening are too great to take that risk.

[Avocadess]

Just a heads up that I finally finished transcribing notes from the most recent interview with Drake and Randy. Part 2 of the notes are here on the thread for Drake Updates:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nd-more/page32

I found this interview to be enlightening. My notes reflect a basic agreement with what Ishtar is saying -- that the ETs/EDs/Angels Drake speaks of are going to be working to bring us up to the level that they are. There are different ways of looking at that -- both positive and negative -- as with probably everything.

[wynderer]

check out Vansak's thread re the 'mutation of humanity' he is documenting
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-is-in-effect

the Reptilian NWO likes to announce what they are doing & then laugh at the stupid Humans for ignoring the truth when it slaps them in the face -- like those Hulu ads , & a lot of those music videos -- i think Drake is being used to give their message -- i'm not saying he is a bad person -- they likely found his weakness & played to that -- ego is often the weakness -- & Drake bought into being a dragonmaster or whatever his title is

Posted by Ishtar (here)
I am looking at the context... I heard the whole thing...and he wasn't speaking in metaphors. He was talking literally about the timeline of the ETs introducing themselves to the world. He said that first of all, the ETs would arrive but they only would be accessible to a select group at first. After that, we will all get to see them and then they will "change us into what they are."

Those are the words he used.

Seeing as I do know something about the transhuman agenda, my ears pricked up at this.

Why do you think you know what he really meant? Do you know him personally?

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Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Now that Drake has just let the cat out of the bag ~ that the ETs are going to come after the coup and turn us into them ~ I wonder how many will continue to support him?

Who are you again? Can you remind me?

Dennis

Nobody important. Just a poster on here. We haven't met.

[Ishtar]

Hi Wynderer

While I totally understand that the universe is created by vibration/resonance/frequency, and have understood that ever since reading it in the Vedas, it's also my belief that all the talk about the imminent return of the Anunnaki is just so much psy-ops disinformation and twisting of mythology in order to create fear and control in the general population.

I have written about some of this before on the forum, so apologies if you're read it before. But in my view, psy-ops are (deliberately) misconstruing the stories on the Sumerian clay tablets to create a nightmare scenario. It is my understanding that their focus on Babylon being the font of all evil is trading on the general ignorance about the fact that the stories about the Old Ones are not confined to Mespotamia. Many ancient mythologies from all over the world attribute the learning about agriculture, weaving, smithery etc. to other spiritual beings who were benevolent and wise.

Even today, indigenous peoples, like the Hopi and the Dogon, recount very similar creation stories about the “star peoples”, who came down from the heavens to teach them all they knew. But they are talking about the intradimensional entities known to the shamans of those times, and even to their shamans or medicine men today. They are not talking about extra--terrestrial astronauts who may come or once came to Earth. The intra-dimensional spirits have always been with us. It's us that 'went away', in that we've been conditioned by religion and science not to see them.

Hardly anyone knew anything about shamanism when the senior Freemason Zechariah Stitchin began the disinformation campaign about the Anunnaki and the 3,600 year old cycle of the Planet Nibiru, and others are just carrying on with his work today. Unfortunately, Sitchin lied about what was on the Sumerian tablets ... there was no evil Anunnaki nor Planet Nibiru.

The ancient myths on the Sumerian clay tablets are about what we call today 'science' or astronomy/astrology. Myths encode universal truths within metaphor and allegory.

But to understand who the Anunnaki were, we have to understand where the name comes from. It means 'children of Anu', and Anu is the one of the oldest words for 'supreme self-organising creator' or God in Sumerian, Indian and Egyptian. However, the Sumerians were wiser than we've been taught to be over the past 2,000 years or so, and so to them 'God' wasn't a viscious, jealous, vengeful Old Man in the Sky. The Sumerians didn't separate spirituality and science, and so it's only today that our quantum physicists at the Hadron Collider are beginning to catch up with this ancient vision of God. This means we're going full circle into seeing God again as the fundamental, intelligent self-organising principle that exists at the heart of the creative vortex: the God Particle or Higgs Boson.

Anu (Sanskrit) As a noun, an atom of matter; as an adjective, atomic, fine, minute. A title of Brahma, conceived as both infinitesimal and universal, thus pointing to the pantheistic character of divinity. Hence, every anu is “a centre of potential vitality, with latent intelligence in it” (SD 1:567; cf FSO 273-5, 431). In the Bhagavad-Gita (8:9) Arjuna is enjoined to meditate on the “seer,” i.e., the enlightened, omniscient One, who is “more atomic than the atom” (anor aniyamsam) and yet “the supporter of all” (cf VP 1:2, 5:1; ChU 3:14, 3-4, Katha 2:20, MU 3:1.

Anu (Chaldean) Supreme god of the Babylonian pantheon, king of angels and spirits, ruler of destiny, lord of the city of Erech or Uruk — later Ur. One of the loftiest of Babylonian divinities, part of a trinity with Enlil and Ea, he was especially the god of heaven, creator of star spirits and of the demons of cold, rain, and darkness. His consort Antum or Anatum was mother of the gods. Anu was the concealed deity; in the Chaldean account of Genesis, he is the passive deity, however, “the primordial chaos, the god time and world at once, chronos, and kosmos, the uncreated matter issued from the one and fundamental principle of all things” (IU 2:423).

Anu was also the ‘god word’ in Egypt where many priests were named Anu or Anubis, and the city of Heliopolis (renamed as the City of the Sun by the Greeks) was originally named Anu.

For those who prefer videos, there is a good one here about shamanism and the self-organising principle of the Anu.

From this, you will see the Anu takes the shape of two vortexes, one upon the other and also known as the double vortex, or ascending and descending dragons. It is also represented by the double pyramid:




Here is how its double vortical magnetic field supports the Earth.




In this diagram, you can see how the energy of the double vortex flows in and out, and it forms a doughnut-like shape around its middle, known as a torus.



I’m sure Zecharia Sitchin was an intelligent man, and so he would have known that nowhere in the Sumerian texts is Nibiru referred to as a planet, but as an Earthly city. Nibiru is mentioned many times throughout the cuneiform clay tablets as a very important city because it housed a sacred shrine to Anu, the “God Particle”.

There is also nothing in the Sumerian texts about rockets, other planets or an evil race of Anunnaki who come from outer Space.

The Biblical story about the Judaic equivalent, the Nephilim, often gets quoted as proof that they came to the Earth and made love with the “daughters of man”. But this is a metaphor for how Spirit combines with matter ~ another term for electromagnetic energy. In ancient myths, Spirit is usually depicted as the male principle and Matter (mater, maternal) is represented as female. This story is about the act of fertility that is at the heart of the creation which is electromagnetic.

That Sitchin was part of a psy-ops initiative, or at least one that sets out to deceive, is clear from his omissions, from his made-up translations, from his truncated quotes and extracts taken out of context, and from the amount of repetition there is in his copious, confusing to the general reader and complex Earth Chronicles which could also be an early form of NLP with its use of ‘redundant pattern recognition’.

When Sitchin was asked to provide references for his ‘beliefs’, he would wave away the enquirier with ‘it’s all in the books’. There are references and a bibliography of sorts in his books, but there are none to reference the more sensational part of his story regarding the Anunnaki coming from Space on rockets or the “planet Nibiru”.

The Annuna or Anunnaki were known as the Aryans in ancient India, and both are translated to Noble Ones. The Anunnaki or Aryans were also known as the Old Ones, who taught the shaman priests everything they needed to know for survival ~ agriculture, smithery, astronomy, geomancy, sacred geometry etc. But these Anunnaki/Aryan spirits didn’t come to Earth on rockets to teach our ancestors. Even today (but particularly then) shamans learn from the spirits (Anunnaki/Aryans/Elohim/Archangels) through the shamanic trance known as ‘journeying’.

It is not a physical journey. Shamans don’t journey by going ‘off-planet’ but by going ‘off dimension’. Going ‘off-planet’ may be fun, but going ‘off dimension’ is even better because it evolves your consciousness to a higher level in a way that no amount of trips to Mars can ever achieve. It is about self-transformation ... not space tourism.

We can go to Mars, or we can go even to the Pleiades or to the Andromeda Galaxy or Sirius, if we could build a rocket to get there. But we would still be in this 3D dimension and, therefore, our consciousness would be the same as it is now. We would stay the same in our consciousness but just be in a different place. However, if we learn to journey like a shaman does to other dimensions, then there is an opportunity for self-transformation and spiritual evolution through enhanced consciousness, as well as a greater understanding about the building blocks of this universe.

And so this, in my opinion, is the birthright that has been stolen from us by various psy-ops campaigns over the millennia which include religions, Darwinism, Western material science, atheism masquerading as humanism ~ and not least this little beaut from Sitchin about the Anunnaki and the planet Nibiru, which will also make a great psychological foundation for any false flag ET invasion they have planned.

So this is why I believe that the ancient astronaut theory about the "evil Anunnaki" is just another bogey-man to create fear, and it certainly works as a control mechanism. There was, and still is, no need for spacecraft, to meet the Old Ones, or the spirits, because nobody needs to ‘go’ anywhere. The Old Ones are already here. We just need to go within ourselves and open our doors of perception to see them.

[DreamsInDigital]

Ishtar,

Wanted to other than the "thank you" button, complement you on that wonderful and very informative post. I know I don't always agree with you, but you have my deepest respect.

[Ishtar]

Thank you Dreams In Digital

The great thing about Project Avalon is that there is here an enormous wealth of diverse views, all honestly reached and thoroughly researched, and all worth listening to, whether we agree with all of it or not.

I'm grateful to be able to express my own views to such an intelligent and learned audience... and also to have the opportunity to learn from others.

[we-R-one]

Posted by sdv (here)

I really want to believe the whole Drake scenario is happening, but I have chosen to remain neutral. Something that keeps burning in the back of my head that I'm not really seeing anyone discuss unless I missed it, is the huge surge of energy that is coming towards our planet from the center of the galaxy, due to hit by the end of 2012 into I believe March 2013. It's the very reason that solar flares are spiking on the Sun and is the very reason why our DNA structue is changing as we speak.

Yep we are playing in la la land instead of dealing with what is really happening (verifiable). The three monkey syndrome?
Last night I was speaking about solar flares and how the Sun had just belched again and someone mentioned that he had no idea that the Sun is so active at present, but he had wondered why he had felt an electric shock when he touched his car the morning before (when the energy from the last belch reached us).
I don't want to stick my head in the sand and pretend that there is not something going on in our Solar System, Galaxy and Universe that will profoundly affect Earth and humanity. It might not be a big deal, but then it might be. The consequences of pretending nothing is happening are too great to take that risk.

A big thank you for acknowledging this post! Sorry it has taken me so long to come back here. I by no means want to take away from the whole Drake scenario, I think most know my position based on past posts. I just think this is a way bigger story headed our way and the feeling I'm getting is this isn't a matter of "if" it's a matter of "when" and I would have to agree with SDV that this is definitely verifiable. Though the magnetic field that encompasses this planet will offer some protection, we aren't even close to being outta the woods, this will be devastating. I can't help but think that this is possibly the ascension moment many of us have been waiting for. Of course you are going to hear nothing about this on mainstream because there is no way to protect all of us......but it will certainly get us out of our conundrum won't it? When I searched on this site I found only one thread that was directly discussing this, lots of good info, but it's old. Sure wish the original poster wasn't deactivated, would love to hear what that guy says now! He's probably went underground, lol. Ok, it's really not funny.
I do see that we have a Sun thread so I'll be parking my horse over there for a while trying to catch up as I'm assuming they are discussing this very scenario as the impact of this energy surge is all ready having an effect on our Sun.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...uff-What-s-up-

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...SINE+LALLEMENT