Drake and Teri - a contrary view.

[Unified Serenity]

It's a distraction to keep us yacking and immobile. The more we wait for change the further along the tyranny road they get. There will be a big push for gun grabs in the U.S.. We are so passive and so afraid to rock the boat, lose our jobs, go to jail that a majority of people will register their weapons. I expect there to be a heinous crime beyond belief that will give the media the story to run with to get the guns away from the people. I would not be surprised if there are house to house searches.

I also am expecting another 9/11 event to happen to launch us into a middle east limited nuclear exchange. There will be martial law, and moving of people to "safe zones". Oh, and let me not forget the collapse of the American Dollar beyond repair and a cashless society to stop bartering and ensure record keeping of all purchases.

It's going to get very interesting.

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)

I'm willing to bet a whole case of raw milk on having 15 out of those aforementioned 19 bastards to be arrested. Any takers?

~Mozart

I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.)

Translation: Nothing of this kind will happen. Wilcock is being taken for a ride, although he's normally pretty smart. It's disinfo, folks. Joel Skousen called it the other day talking to Alex Jones. It's a distracting sideshow. There are very serious issues in the world and (as with Elenin, 11-11-11, etc etc last year), your attention is being diverted.

They have to mislead you.

The movements always begin in the alternative leading edge of things, regarding the genesis of such things, such movements such ideas.

So, David Wilcock and others are the natural and correct target for being fed disinformation.

The more one 'comes up' (into prominence) in such areas, meaning the more one comes to being in influence in these areas of social and cultural genesis/unfolding.... the more one is a target for being fed disinfo so it can be propagated.

These are facts, this is how it is done and has been done, for ages.

Sit down and think it through, folks.

And the more you disrupt their plans, the more of a target you become.

Until you end up like my close friend's sister. She was involved in writing books on Pinochet, the CIA, and Kissinger, regarding Chile.

She was there in chile when it happened, and watched hundreds of people she knew..disappear and die. This is what drove her to get involved.

After surviving that, she moved around a bit, for years, and then she decided to go to the original homestead in the UK, and...write a book on the nuclear power industry.

She lasted a few months. She mysteriously died, alone... of a heart attack. No one in her family bloodlines has ever died of a heart attack at anywhere near her age.


The forum is emphatically NOT a toy you play with or a park you play in.

It is the genesis point of future trends and movements, among other things.

The people who surround these enterprises, the people who are the subjects of the discussions...those folks, all involved, who may be of, or come into any prominence...they are, eventually... major targets.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.)

Wow, you said that about NESARA too. Your hat is becoming quite the celebrity. I think you should auction it off right before the big arrests and create a distraction. Then, we would be so focused on watching the auction, we would forget all about your promise to eat your hat, or the arrests.

[justoneman]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by WHOMADEGOD (here)
Distracted from what please Bill?

My guess, in a word, tyranny (yes, I'm no Bill), including further consolidation by the bastards in power of their stranglehold over the energy and monetary systems of the world, further destruction of or domination over any potentially independent local, regional or national governments and further loss of the basic freedoms of humanity.

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Posted by Mozart (here)
So the betting gods use a standard of betting $100 to determine the payout rates, so if something has only a 27% chance of happening, then the betting gods (Las Vegas) puts the odds at -300, which, with a $100 bet, pays out only $33.

How is that "-300" number calculated?

Mozart is using the America odds system which is based on 100 being the stake. For favorites, the stake amount is represented by a - sign and is always a larger number than the potential win amount.

Paul made the odds -300 thus you would risk 300 to win 100.

For the underdog you use 100 to represent the stake and in this case the price for the dog is +270 thus you risk 100 to win 270.

Mozart used 100 in his example for the stake for the Favorite, thus you would win only 33.33 for that stake.

What is interesting is that Mozart has a spread known as "the juice" in America. That spread is 30 cents here. Mozart, who gets the juice? hahaha

[WHOMADEGOD]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by WHOMADEGOD (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)

I'm willing to bet a whole case of raw milk on having 15 out of those aforementioned 19 bastards to be arrested. Any takers?

~Mozart

I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.)

Translation: Nothing of this kind will happen. Wilcock is being taken for a ride, although he's normally pretty smart. It's disinfo, folks. Joel Skousen called it the other day talking to Alex Jones. It's a distracting sideshow. There are very serious issues in the world and (as with Elenin, 11-11-11, etc etc last year), your attention is being diverted.

Distracted from what please Bill?

• Nuclear false flag event in the US
• Fukushima deterioration leading to significant radiation release
• Global financial crisis and devaluation of the dollar
• Possibility of major earthquake risk (Japan / US West Coast / New Madrid)
• Major solar activity (1859-type event, but larger) with anticipated timing Dec 2012 -- Jan 2013.

WOW, thats a lot of fear inducing thoughts to process, thanks Bill!

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Im bored with being scared.

[Paul]

Posted by WHOMADEGOD (here)
Im bored with being scared.

I'm busy preparing ... have been for several years.

That's the essential reason I'm here on this forum, rather than on some Linux Kernel Mailing List.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)

I'm willing to bet a whole case of raw milk on having 15 out of those aforementioned 19 bastards to be arrested. Any takers?

~Mozart

I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.)

Translation: Nothing of this kind will happen. Wilcock is being taken for a ride, although he's normally pretty smart. It's disinfo, folks. Joel Skousen called it the other day talking to Alex Jones. It's a distracting sideshow. There are very serious issues in the world and (as with Elenin, 11-11-11, etc etc last year), your attention is being diverted.

Well, I got outfoxed by the wily Paul. My original statements (which I still hold to) are that

1.) I believe that Drake is convinced. He is telling the truth, as he knows it. That's either because it is true, or he has been led to believe it. If I am wrong about that, then my ability to judge sincerity/integrity in a recorded voice are so far off, no one (including me) should ever value my internal lie detector/BS detector.

2.) I believe there will be an attempt.

If I was smart, I would have stuck to that. But, I didn't and now the team that Drake speaks for has to greatly exceed "attempt" and make it all the way to "succeed" and succeed in such a way that would presume that I know those individuals will be arrested. Paul took candy from a baby when he upped the stakes, and I went for it. :~) Now, if the Plan is all real, and they do make an attempt at implementing the Plan, I still lose the bet (and appear to have been fooled, when that would not really be the case.)

A bet's a bet, and I'm in - but wanted to qualify that it is my internal lie detector that I am betting on, not information about the Plan that has been revealed.

Bill, I notice you've switched from a leather hat to a straw hat. Wise move, my friend, wise move.

I see absolutely nothing from which we have been distracted. That is, nothing we were just about to do that would have even slowed down the NWO machine.

I just spent 2 years trying to put together a way for US citizens to wrest control of US elections (and thus governance) away from the Global Cabal. So far, a big bowl of apathy. As the comedian's line goes, "We got nothin'." Distractions and diversions don't even matter when no one will drop the remote, get their ass off the couch and do anything. We have no Plan that we were distracted or diverted from. We (society) were distracted from "Dancing With The Stars" for a few minutes by Drake. When Drake's 15 minutes of fame (45 days) are over, if a Plan isn't executed, we'll go right back to "Dancing With The Stars" and discussing Kardooshian nail polish colors.

We are utterly reactive to whatever punches the Cabal throws. If we get a warning out to west coast US residents to get away from the coast from a deliberate tsunami (for example), a million might be saved (most won't budge), and the million we saved will just be killed a different way. Yep, I'm feeling helpless to be a great help to anyone but myself and my family. All these great minds and big hearts gathered together in the alternative community, and we cannot come up with a Plan? The best we can do is remain reactive? Sheesh.

Dennis

[aranuk]

Can I say something here? Bill, Paul, Carmody et al, you all speak as if there is no hope for us in this world we live in. According to what you say, the PTB have every angle covered. That seems to me to be a pesimistic outlook for the future, does it not? If David Wilcock, Ben Fulford and Drake are being targeted by TPTB this means that what they have been saying is true. TPTB want to stop them spreading the truth to the ordinary folks. Can you Bill, Paul,CArmody, Unified Serenity, et al, see any imminant future for the freedom of the people of this world?

I have this scene in my mind, there are a number of us in a jail somewhere, and there are some of us explaining that we heard from an old convict that there had been an attempt to escape from this prison. There are a number of us who would like to give it a go. There are others who speak to us who tell us that nobody has ever escaped this prison before as the guards have every angle covered, and that they have their spies as well listening for any plans to escape. I for one, would encourage us all to try and escape. You guys, Bill, Paul etc are creating in our minds that the walls are even thicker than they are and cannot be cut out. You guys would be in fact be co-operating with the governer unwittingly to keep his prison more secure, more securer that it actually is.

I rest my case.

I think it is possible to overcome our imprisonment and I hope for freedom. If we give up hope we are as good as finished.

Stan

[Paul]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I see absolutely nothing from which we have been distracted.

The BIG secret to power in 3-D space/time thread, especially this post by Amysenthia regarding the hammerlock the bastards in power are getting on our food, spells out the essentials of what we are being distracted from, in my view.

The list of specific potential disasters that Bill gave (nukes, quakes and CME's) are not (yet anyway) specific events that they need to distract us from, but rather possible upcoming major events that would tighten their squeeze on our liberty, well being, and worldly existence.

The bastards in power are tightening their grip on what we know and how we feed and care for ourselves, particularly using money and energy. This Drake distraction is one minor chapter in thousands of years of distractions. Healthy food is going to become increasingly difficult to obtain.

[Paul]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I think it is possible to overcome our imprisonment and I hope for freedom. If we give up hope we are as good as finished.

I don't know how much hope there is. I'm not check-mated yet, so will continue to study the board and make the best moves I can.

One thing I try to avoid doing is making the following "logical" argument:

• Situation is difficult.
• Must be a way out.
• So the "best" way out I can see must work.

If one has to close one's mind to some essential problems with that way, then one is engaging in blind hope, willfully blind.

[Mozart]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Mozart is using the America odds system which is based on 100 being the stake. For favorites, the stake amount is represented by a - sign and is always a larger number than the potential win amount.

Paul made the odds -300 thus you would risk 300 to win 100.

For the underdog you use 100 to represent the stake and in this case the price for the dog is +270 thus you risk 100 to win 270.

There ya go, justoneman -- that's the better way of putting it. Thank you for clarifying.


Only one clarification -- the underlined, bold part -- just for the sake of the clarity of the readers, the total payout would be $270, which includes the original $100 bet for a net profit of $170.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

I'll up the stakes. If they are arrested, I'll eat my hat and post it on YouTube. (To get it down, I'd mix it in a blender with raw milk. I love raw milk too.)

Surely a formal fork and knife setting would be more fitting Bill, should this long shot actually occur. Might I recommend a lemon pepper and vinegrette marinade before hand?

Off-topic but this reminded me - does anyone recall the documentary: Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe? As I recall it was spiced up and boiled in this short film

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd6rUo7Htso

The title says it all. German film director Werner Herzog had made a bet with fledgling director Errol Morris that, if Morris made a film, Herzog would eat his shoe. Morris went on to film 'Gates of Heaven', so Herzog kept his promise.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Can you Bill, Paul,CArmody, Unified Serenity, et al, see any imminant future for the freedom of the people of this world?

I'd say it's a done deal Stan, provided the people who find themselves with that burning coal of freedom growing in their belly come to realize their limitless potential, and the power of their unbending and unyielding intent. It doesn't mean we shouldn't defend ourselves if being violated, but I'm absolutely convinced Wade Frazier is spot on the money when he says: "Love is the only way out". Of note, this is not to be confused with the often mocked chanting Ommmmm in the lotus position, when one could be feeding their starving neighbors if they had the means.

Anyway, this just reminds me too much of the "Charles" hero worship here a year or so ago. The answer to our common dilemma lies not in some break away Illuminati turned "white hat", the next big shot whose secret society resume reads like a lawyer's scholastic history on the wall behind his desk, or a not so secret "plan" that is surely to come to fruition at any time now.

The answer lies with each and every one of us discovering just who in the hell we really are, why we're here in this time, what unique piece of the puzzle from home we have to offer, and most of all...When the moment comes for us to "do our thing", whatever that may be, do it without hesitation, and without fear of possible consequences. Such as Castaneda's infamous stepping off the cliff. Tank Man comes to mind.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

We do live in interesting times.

Cheers,
Fred

[Kimberley]

Hey here is another one...

Pakistan's top court convicts prime minister

Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani's conviction is triggering turmoil in a government already struggling with major economic and security challenges amid tense US relations.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-...prime-minister

I am so looking forward to hearing about arrests in the USA!!!

Much love!!

[christian]

You've got me thinking Bill...

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Nuclear false flag event in the US

We're always only one step away from a false flag event, whatever type and place. The curve is bending towards this tactic becoming useless though, looking back how it evolved over decades, false flag events are identified pretty fast these days, if not even sabotaged beforehand by getting the word out, like when this old US aircraft carrier was stationed within the reach of Iranian missiles.

Fukushima deterioration leading to significant radiation release

Focusing intent on cleaning this is something everybody can do, in this manner Masaru Emoto had buddhist monks clean polluted water. There are surely more 'technical' ways as well to get something done there. Relocating and/or having potassium iodine available may be worth a consideration as well. Plus I am pretty sure we get help from out there to clean up that and chemtrails for example.

Global financial crisis and devaluation of the dollar

When the stability of a currency receives a severe blow, a major pillar of stability in society breaks away and hopefully we the people can compensate that through supporting each other and working together.

Possibility of major earthquake risk (Japan / US West Coast / New Madrid)

Again, focusing on balancing is powerful, supporting each other is essential, relocating is a possibility as well.

Major solar activity (1859-type event, but larger) with anticipated timing Dec 2012 -- Jan 2013.

What do you think about the Electromagnetic Vehicles, that control that activity according to James Horak, who also says, those EMVs willingly use CMEs to shoot down certain satellites. From what I heard James himself directed them to do so in some instances and he pushed the total reset button at 6 previous occasions/incarnations, where societies on earth went down 'too' dark roads, now that's hard to swallow, but history is is a very long time and truth is stranger than fiction. Anyways I don't think, that the sun has no consciousness or will whatsoever and CMEs happen randomly, I think the opposite is true. I can imagine a directed coronal mass ejection to be useful as a reset button, as it might clear every computer hard drive on the planet. I personally prepare for having no electricity or computers etc. available at some point.

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But what about all the desasters that didn't come to pass? Doesn't that show, that the cabal has problems? Why would they have deliberately refrained from releasing a deadly pandemic till now, as more and more people become aware of what's happening behind the scenes. The swine flu / vaccination stuff blew up in their face, what a desaster for them. It's technically possible, to kill masses of us right away, to poison the earth and the food supply and give insiders access to cures and shelter, but they didn't do that. They could have triggered bigger crises in many fields, one could think, which would have furthered their agenda significantly, but that didn't happen. I think their hands are tied in many ways.

If some orchestrated heavily disrupting event would occur, I think the actually present well-informed minority would be totally up in arms to get the word out through every avenue and on the streets to the neighbours and the general population would be rather susceptive, because who wants another world war or some kind of prolonged severe crisis? The prospect of ending a major crisis without too much turmoil by reclaiming sovereignity and removing the criminal shadowy elite from positions of power would be very appealing then to people, who used to be asleep, wouldn't it?

Alex Jones often says from his perspective a majority of members of police and the military are awake. The constitution and many laws have been violated over and over, there just was not enough momentum to arrest the criminals and no judge to rule according to the law. As the number of awake people within the system still grows, the momentum regarding mass arrests must necessarily change and arrests become a real possibility, simply because people remember what is lawful and see that they are in the majority and thus have a backing when it comes to enforcing the law.

[NternalArchitect]

Like Dennis, I feel that Drake is sincere. My internal sensors are very convinced by his speech and behavior.

What about the liens? What about Obama's financial advisor's brother handling the neil keenan case and how Drake is tied into this?

What about the state sovereignty movement and the group he was initially involved with at freedom reigns radio? They were very convinced and involved.

Why is this so hard to believe? Wouldn't there be plenty of people in the pentagon and government in general who know and see what's happening and must act?

I hope... beyond hope, that this is true. Please, please, please, please. lol My life, and experiences of synchronicities and connection to divinity are not gearing me to skepticism, and when I'm doing something against my soul intention, you better believe it shows almost immediately.

My heart tells me yes. My mind wants it so badly, yet fears major disappointment if not, and can see that as a possibility to dishearten many people. But I feel this is true.

NternalArch

[WHOMADEGOD]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I think it is possible to overcome our imprisonment and I hope for freedom. If we give up hope we are as good as finished.

I don't know how much hope there is. I'm not check-mated yet, so will continue to study the board and make the best moves I can.

One thing I try to avoid doing is making the following "logical" argument:

• Situation is difficult.
• Must be a way out.
• So the "best" way out I can see must work.

If one has to close one's mind to some essential problems with that way, then one is engaging in blind hope, willfully blind.

Paul, there is always hope, that is our human trump card, we simply refuse to give in, even when all seems lost.
Why, because we are always connected to the creator, no matter what happens, we are simply put, immortal, you know this so dont get
distracted from it.

Blessings

Mark

[justoneman]

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Mozart is using the America odds system which is based on 100 being the stake. For favorites, the stake amount is represented by a - sign and is always a larger number than the potential win amount.

Paul made the odds -300 thus you would risk 300 to win 100.

For the underdog you use 100 to represent the stake and in this case the price for the dog is +270 thus you risk 100 to win 270.

There ya go, justoneman -- that's the better way of putting it. Thank you for clarifying.


Only one clarification -- the underlined, bold part -- just for the sake of the clarity of the readers, the total payout would be $270, which includes the original $100 bet for a net profit of $170.

I was the founder of Royal Sports - which has been sold several times after I was knocked out by the feds - the company still exists - http://www.betroyal.com/ though I do not recommend sports betting to anyone - unless you are on the inside, you'll never beat it - take care Mozart

[Ishtar]

Now that Drake has just let the cat out of the bag ~ that the ETs are going to come after the coup and turn us into them ~ I wonder how many will continue to support him?

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Now that Drake has just let the cat out of the bag ~ that the ETs are going to come after the coup and turn us into them ~ I wonder how many will continue to support him?

THAT is NOT what he meant, he was talking about how they're going to help upgrade our technology and that sort of thing, bring us up to speed where we should be by now. And would be had we not been held back.