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    Dennis

    I did sign the Re-Set Button document as a non USA human (supporter) last year, and I still do support the movement. What it is going to take I do not know, something to bring a huge groundswell? It does seem that corporations have their provenence in US but I still think the poison dwarf is ensconced in this little island.

    I had quite an early epiphany regarding these things, when, during the tension week of the cuban missile crisis, the Navy came to our school to give the famous lecture of 'Protect and Survive' (the UK version of 'Duck and Cover') at the same time they were recruiting! It became clear to me these were grown men and women who were intent on fear and destruction and they wanted us, you and me, the children to help them.
    I guess I am saying I felt helpless to understand then how these grown adults could act in this way, now we have a little better understanding of these psychopaths but are no closer to objective mass resolution. Too much chewing-gum keeping huge swathes of humanity occcupied, fiddling while rome is burning so to speak.

    In weaker moments I sometimes think that a global power outage might resolve the pathology endemic in society but wouldn't those same power mongers rise again. There has to be a way, and the Re-Set is a part, a stepping stone, a showing of intent at a universal level. All the sig-natures are connected organically in the field of energy everywhere in all between the nucleous and the electron (the dark energy lol). Sooooo in effect it is the individual (undividable) that is responsible for the critical mass which will bring society into balance.

    And thank you Dennis for the huge body of work you are doing in sending this signal to humanity, it is heard.
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    Hi Dennis the thought just came to my mind about psychopaths. Are they usually more intelligent than most people? It would seem to me to be so. Why do they almost always float towards the top jobs in society. They seem to be able to outwit groups of people to get what they want. Is there such a thing as a stupid psychopath? Do the stupid ones kill people at the beginning of their enterprise as they are not clever enough to do it than the more successful ones do? The successful ones only seem to kill millions of people like Gearge W or Tony Blair did.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Hi Dennis the thought just came to my mind about psychopaths. Are they usually more intelligent than most people? It would seem to me to be so. Why do they almost always float towards the top jobs in society. They seem to be able to outwit groups of people to get what they want. Is there such a thing as a stupid psychopath? Do the stupid ones kill people at the beginning of their enterprise as they are not clever enough to do it than the more successful ones do? The successful ones only seem to kill millions of people like Gearge W or Tony Blair did.

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    I just think of sociopaths as ruthless. They have no capacity for empathy, and so they can easily do and say things that those of us with compassion just couldn't do or say. Sociopaths don't (typically) need to kill people to climb the ladder, they simply have no problem stepping on peoples' faces to get to the next rung.

    Psychopaths are (I believe) a subset of sociopaths. They range from small-town unknown serial killers to celebrated serial killers (as in the movie, "American Sniper"), and probably fill most seats of the highest echelon of military officers and corporations manufacturing weapons of death and destruction (from Hellfire missiles to Roundup.) I may be naive, but I think of Blair and Bush and Obama (and let's throw in David Cameron and Tony Abbot and Stephen Harper too) are sociopaths remorselessly following the orders of psychopaths.

    Just as it is true that commercial airline pilots (or maybe I'm thinking of Air Force pilots) need to have a certain level of uncorrected vision to be considered for the job, maybe in the future, citizens should demand some sort of fool-proof testing to make sure that all candidates for high office are not sociopaths/psychopaths. :~)


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    I agree Dennis mainly what you say, presumably what you mean is that there are an enormous amount of sociopaths and fewer psychopaths. Is that what you mean? Is there some demarcation when a sociopath steps over that line and becomes a psychopath? Where would you draw the line? Is there really a difference? Can we lump them all together as sociopath/psychopath? Or are psychopaths cleverer than the sociopaths? Is a very rich sociopath able to be indentured as one of the psychopaths easier than a poor one?


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    from 34 to 35 supporters. who's next? next please! next please!

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    Quote Note that if the control of the entire electoral paradigm was reversed - that is, where the Elite have 0% control and ordinary citizens have 100% control - that first election would remove the Elite from governance, and allow us - the ordinary citizens - to finally explore any changes in governance and/or in the form of government that we - we the people - want. It would not be the end, but the beginning.

    With 100% (or even 67%) of high offices controlled by the Elite, for the Elite, there will be no change. Anyone who wants anarchism (any flavor), socialism (any degree), direct democracy, or even just wants to finally find out what it would be like to live under a constitutional republic with actual democratic elections has to realize that we will NEVER get there as long as the Elite control our governance (and they control our governance by controlling the entire electoral paradigm.) We have to overthrow the electoral paradigm.
    Dear Avalonians:

    Please don't feel helpless. You're not.

    I know that many of us have taken many paths to arrive at the reality that we, as individuals, need to create the changes we want to see. Maybe some of it is metaphysical, and you want to focus on the metaphysical aspects. No problem - go for it! But this is also a 3D world with 3D problems that have 3D solutions.

    Many of us (maybe even all of us) know that there are hidden hands, hidden agendas, great (unelected and not subject to electoral cycles) power behind the public face of government. Right now, they ALSO have complete control of not only the hidden aspects behind government and our governance, but also the public government and our governance. Why would we want to keep making it easy on them, to allow them to act with impunity using the public government and military and legal system as their whips and truncheons and dungeons? We may not have any idea how to disempower them in their hidden world, but we can take away the public side and make it much more difficult for them. Don't give up.

    The Reset Button Movement won't ruffle the scales of Dracos, or cause gray hair on the hidden human rulers of the world, but it is a way to remove the Elite from public governance and reversing the overt control of governance (from 100% minions of the Elite to 100% ordinary citizens with no ties to the Elite) can make a huge, positive difference in this world - the visible world, the 3D world.

    You can either continue to be helpless and let the Elite have complete control of everything, or you can at least try to take control of governance away from them.


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    Hi Dennis,

    First off much respect to you for your efforts...

    You are a cool guy and Avalon is a cool place pretty much free of trolls so I will try to speak clearly frankly and honestly...

    There is no doubt that because of the internet and the alt media that humanity is more aware of her upbringing and controlling than ever before in history and so the reset button is a very cool and progressive idea..as it were..

    But looking upon any movement the powers that make the herd stampead and I mean science says that humans are herd animals and so the stampeders know our hot buttons...as it were..

    and so we can design any system on paper to be the best system on the planet yet...if over time some folks that lack integrity get into said system does the well not get poisoned?

    Many americans say that we should get back to the constitution and the founding documents...

    a few say that the american founders were a bunch of mass murdering psychopaths....and so we with respect must look at americas native populations and how it was a policy of divide and conquer for the land and resources...and so they were systematically lied to and murdered...as it were...

    and so I personaly am at a loss as to what we are supposed to reset to?

    on a lighter note here is some comedy from a great show from Amazon called Alpha house called the prayer Brunch rant:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNIg4p3b4s



    and so looking upon energy dynamics I would say just out right replacement would be humanities best and most complete option and so when energy supplies decrease we see declines in social conscientiousness and when those supplies increase we see great strides in social well being and understanding...

    only an opine...energy comes first and then social changes follow...seems to be a historical anomaly...if one would care to investigate...

    much respect

    and much lov

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    Quote Posted by Nine (here)
    ... I personaly am at a loss as to what we are supposed to reset to?

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    and so looking upon energy dynamics I would say just out right replacement would be humanities best and most complete option ...

    Nine
    Humanity doesn't have an option. US citizens don't have an option.

    No one in power cares even a tiny bit if someone comes up with a good idea - whether its something like The Venus Project or tribal anarchism (as proposed by the guy that does the StormCloudsGathering videos.) Our ideas are meaningless to the ruling class. They are not looking for good ideas, they like their own ideas very much and things are working out very well for the ruling class. They want status quo.

    Many people propose something extremely drastic. "What we should do is ________!" It makes no difference if I agree with their vision or not, if their vision cannot be realized because what they want is impossible to get to in one single step.

    The Reset Button is NOT an "ultimate plan", nor does it hold as one of its goals the changing of the US form of government. It's a critical, utterly critical, first step.

    Until US citizens gain control over the US election system, US citizens will continue to be governed by the people that DO control the election system (the "Elite" - Financial Elite and Power Elite.)

    Until US citizens control our own governance, it is meaningless, moot, to ponder or offer suggestions about any major issues (such as changing the form of government.)

    If someone wants political anarchy in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants socialism in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants some new form of capitalism in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants The Venus Project in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants some new blend of socialism and capitalism in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants direct democracy in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants to actually see what it would be like to live in a constitutional republic in the US, they should support The Reset Button because the first critical step is citizens gaining control of our own governance so that we could make that change if we wanted to.

    If someone wants things to stay the way they are in the US, with citizens ruled by a militarist-corporatist/fascist-bankster Elite, they should NOT support The Reset Button because it would undoubtedly lead to SOME form of change that the Elite would not like.

    You asked what the "reset" would reset to: the answer is that The Reset Button would reset the entire Electoral Paradigm to a point before the very first elections in the US in the late 1700s. THAT is when the Elite took control of the electoral paradigm, by putting themselves on the ballot: rich, "landed" (landowner), white, male. They are even better at it now, and the Elite hide behind the veil, covertly controlling EVERYTHING, while their lackeys hold the offices. The real controllers of the US (and much of the world) are not subject to elections - they simply control the electoral charade to provide the appearance of some democracy. (Voting withing a constitutional republic is considered as being "democracy.")

    It's great that people - some of whom are deep thinkers and full of compassion - have ideas about better ways to run the government, or even to remove the need for much if any government - but those are SECONDARY goals that cannot and will not ever be even considered much less accomplished by allowing the Ruling Elite to maintain control of our governance. The Reset Button recognizes that the Elite control governance by controlling (every aspect of) elections - and so The Reset Button is an attack on the status quo, militarist-corporatist/fascist-bankster Elite-controlled electoral paradigm. If citizens cannot control elections, citizens will NOT control our own governance.


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    (The following is my response to an email I received. I don't have a web link to the original email text, so I'll paste it in to the bottom of this note.)

    This guy (Micah White - Occupy Wall Street founder) *almost* gets it!


    What social movements need are strategists. Without strategists, we have heart and soul and fire and steam and then... nothing.

    If you honestly believe that activists are winning, that citizens' movements are on a course to success, that citizens will prevail over the Elite/aristocracy/oligarchy, click a different link, because you won't like what I have to say.

    I love Chris Hedges. Articulate, extremely bright, and he speaks the truth, the whole truth. However, Chris is no strategist. He has seen protests in foreign countries yield a regime turnover, and he thinks the same could happen in the US. It can't. Worse, if it did, (since the Elite would still control the electoral paradigm), the exact same militarist-corporatist-bankster Elite would once again control exactly who filled all of the seats of high office, and we'd be right in the same mess.

    I think David Cobb was sincere when he started Move to Amend, and actually believed that reforming corporate contributions to campaigns would have actually ended the duopoly rule. He's no strategist. The goal of Move to Amend is woefully incomplete. There are 9 ways the Elite control elections, and Move to Amend only looks at the 4th most powerful of the 9. If Move to Amend accomplished their goal, the exact same militarist-corporatist-bankster Elite would once again control exactly who filled all of the seats of high office, and we'd be right in the same mess.

    I think Larry Lessig was sincere when he started Rootstrikers, and his video presentations are perfect... right up to the point where he starts offering solutions (strategy.) He's no strategist. If Rootstrikers got complete success, the exact same militarist-corporatist-bankster Elite would once again control exactly who filled all of the seats of high office, and we'd be right in the same mess.

    I think Aaron Hawkins of StormCloudsGathering is sincere, and he too describes the problem viscerally and with passion. I don't think he has presented a workable strategy to get to his vision, and I also think that at this stage, we have to be very careful not to create a movement toward one particular political ideology or with a change to some specific form of government (or lack thereof) as the goal. Not everyone will share the goal. Rather, let's unite around the goal we do share, and that is removing the control of the Elite over our lives. Start there, and then as a secondary goal, we the people (in control of our own governance, our own destiny) can make further changes.

    I think Micah White was sincere when he started Occupy Wall Street, and actually believed that with enough social pressure (bodies in the streets + bodies "occupying"), that the will of the people would create big, meaningful change. As you'll see when you read the body of Micah's interview (copied below), he now knows (and admits) that he (and the rest of Occupy) were no strategists. Unfortunately, he almost gets it, and has fallen for the trap of thinking about competing (with a new third party) against the Elite in the Elite-controlled system! No one can beat the Elite in an Elite-controlled electoral paradigm. No one! The electoral paradigm is therefore the bull's eye, the prime activists' target.

    I tried unsuccessfully to get a copy of "The Reset Button" document into the hands of Occupy Wall Street activists. The first draft of The Reset Button was written and published before Occupy Wall Street started, and if the two could have come together, then Occupy (a movement without a plan or strategy) would have combined with The Reset Button (a plan and strategy without a movement.) Of course, it didn't happen and Occupy fizzled (after Obama and the DHS decided to bust it up.)

    We don't just need regime change. We need profound systemic change (a full transformation of the entire electoral paradigm, completely taking the Elite out of control) and regime change. Without the systemic transformation, even a regime change leaves the Elite in control, because the Elite will once again fill all seats of high office with their chosen lackeys.

    I don't just want you to read The Reset Button document, I want you to read the body of the proposed legislation ("Election Reform Act") that would create a new Elite-free, citizen-centric, citizen-controlled election system. THAT is a plan! Think about it, analyze it, look at it from the angle of whether it would achieve the goal of citizens taking control of our own governance and keeping the Elite out of control. Astute activists will know that this plan is not really just "election reform", but packaged as election reform (which of course, it is), the movement will have nearly 100% support of citizens.

    And what about strategy? Well, having proposed legislation that NONE of the Elite-aligned, Elite-supported puppets in the US Congress would ever vote for means that US citizens will have to force them to vote for it. How? By understanding the lesson that John ("Confessions of an Economic Hitman") Perkins showed us: modern war is economic (military action is only when the economic war is not enough.) We citizens have to wage economic war on the Elite to pressure them to force their lapdog congresspersons to pass the legislation. Economic war in the US against the Elite would be composed of the first ever nationwide general strike, boycott, and divestment. Stop "business as usual", halt commerce with all large corporations. The general strike (a "stay at home" strike, eliminating the police clash) could be made even more effective by turning roads into parking lots, stopping commerce, stopping the economy, putting the Elite corporatists at risk of losing their empires - and THAT will force them to force Congress to pass the "Election Reform Act." THAT is strategy. Workable strategy.


    Read it here: http://www.ResetButtonMovement.org

    So, where does Micah White almost get it?
    Right here: "The only way to remove the power of corporations in our society would be to create a social movement capable of winning elections. As movements and as activists, we have avoided the only solution, which is: we have to build social movements that can also function as political parties."

    The highlighted first sentence is absolutely correct, but the only way to make elections winnable by ordinary citizens and not the minions of the Elite is to FIRST change the election system so that the Elite don't control it and not allow those with corporate ties to run for office. It seems too obvious to be profound, but that is the difference between a workable strategy that could put citizens in control of our own governance... and a poorly thought-out strategy that allows the Elite to remain in control.

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    (the following is the interview of Micah White)

    Quote The Crisis Within Activism is a Crisis Within Democracy

    Micah White, cocreator of Occupy Wall Street and former Adbusters editor

    “We are living through a period with the largest protests in human history. But they are not working. And when you reach that point, instead of repeating the traditional protest behaviors, screaming and holding posters, you have to innovate,” says Micah White, cocreator of Occupy Wall Street and former Adbusters editor, in an interview with Brazil's CartaCapital about his book, THE END OF PROTEST.

    Micah spoke with CartaCapital during his recent visit to São Paulo for the launch of GUME ("Knife Edge"), a new engagement consultancy.

    CartaCapital: Is there a crisis in today's representative democracies?

    Micah White: Absolutely. In addition to a crisis in representative democracy, there is a crisis in the model of activism, how people protest. There is a crisis in the power of people to force governments to do what they want. We live in a time when there appears to be no way for ordinary people to influence their governments through protest… This means there is no democracy.

    CC: Does this mean that the democratic system does not work anymore?

    MW: I do not think in any way that the dream of democracy is dead. The dream of democracy has been going on since the beginning of civilization and humans have always been fighting for democracy. For five thousand years we’ve been overthrowing pharaohs, kings and tyrants in a struggle for democracy. Now we're in one of those moments in history when we have a low point of democracy, but there will be a high point of democracy soon. This requires, however, a kind of innovation within our concepts of activism.

    CC: How is it possible to reduce the power of corporations in government?

    MW: The only way to remove the power of corporations in our society would be to create a social movement capable of winning elections. As movements and as activists, we have avoided the only solution, which is: we have to build social movements that can also function as political parties. This is a need that we do not want to hear. We think we can just organize large protests and get really angry. Occupy Wall Street was a once in a lifetime event and it did not work because we were chasing a false theory of how social change happens. We believe, or wanted to believe, that a large number of people going to the streets can cause changes in their governments, but when we achieved a historical social movement, we realized this story of change is not true. Now it is clear that the only way to win power is to create a hybrid between a social movement and a political party. Something that does not have leaders, but has spokespeople and an organizational structure that lasts more than six months.

    CC: How is it possible to achieve social change through protests?

    MW: Today, social movements ask their participants do very basic and small actions: to take to the streets, holding posters and shouting. These are very basic behaviors and no longer have a political effect. Occupy Wall Street and the 15M in Spain, brought more complex behaviors, such as participating in general assemblies or utilizing hand gestures, but these are still very simple behaviors. I think we have to ask more of social movement participants. We must show that social movements require difficult behaviors like, winning elections, drafting legislation, governing our cities ... We need to demand a greater investment than just show up. The Internet allows us to ask for more. Thanks to social networks, it’s time to treat participants as capable of developing sophisticated behaviors and teaching each other how to to spread these actions globally.

    CC: Do social networks have a new role in organizing and promoting protests?

    MW: Absolutely. I think the role of the Internet is spreading contagious emotions. If we look at the Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street, it seems that the trigger was a mood that spread all over the world and was basically a sensation of losing one’s fear. People said “I do not care about the risks, this is the time to act” and went to the streets. That's what social networks do: they allow us to transfer that contagious mood of rebellion to the whole world. The other power of the Internet is in allowing us to innovate our tactics in real time. From the moment when a new tactic emerges in one city, it can be deployed in another city. So it was with Occupy Wall Street.

    CC: Can the internet become something more than a network in which feelings are spread?

    MW: There is a hope that perhaps the Internet allows us an electronic democracy. That's the idea of the 5 Star Movement in Italy. Participants use the internet to decide on legislation and to select candidates for the elections. The idea of the Internet enabling collective decision-making is very interesting, but difficult to achieve.

    CC: Some people prefer digital activism to the street. What do you think?

    MW: In the early stages, the Internet is very important for social movements. However, over time, the Internet becomes harmful because things start to look better online than in real life. This happened with Occupy. The protest looked better on Facebook than it did in the streets. This is negative because people start to prefer the online experience to the real world. So the Internet is a double-edged sword. The internet is a weapon that is not fully under our control, and it is very difficult to wield effectively.

    CC: Do you believe that the advance of neoliberalism has helped reduce the importance of social movements around the world?

    MW: Protests are a form of war and war is politics by other means. Protests are ways of influencing the political system by unconventional methods. And the revolution is a change in the legal regime. It is transforming what is legal into something illegal or making what is illegal legal. If social movements are a form of warfare then it is clear that the forces that are in power will use all possible means to destroy social movements. The problem is activists do not see their protests in the context of war. We see them as a big party or something, while the other side realizes the importance of the event. Above all, however, it is crucial not blame others. We must blame ourselves. Social movements do not fail because the police are very strong. Throughout history, people have overthrown governments with a much stronger police, either because they found a way to defeat them in the streets or because they managed to get the police to change sides. So when our protests fail it is because our theory of change was wrong and not because the other side was stronger.

    CC: Occupy Wall Street was born in 2011 and influenced many movements around the world. To date, we have several social movements emerging in Europe also influenced by 15M or Occupy. What is the role of the internet?

    MW: What happened is that a new tactic emerged and it worked, so it spread worldwide. Occupy Wall Street combined tactics in Egypt with those of Spain and applied them to the United States. The police could not anticipate this new protest strategy and that's why the movement worked. Once the police discovered how to respond to our encampments, they destroyed all the movements worldwide in the same way. Protest is a constant war of new attack strategies and counter-attack. Interestingly, at the moment we are increasing the frequency of protests. This is very good, but on the other hand, we must be skeptical because we are living through a period with the largest protests in human history, but they are not working.

    CC: Do you believe that we can be in a historic moment of rupture?

    MW: What I imagine is the birth of a social movement that wins elections in a country and then begins to win elections in multiple countries. Then you will see Syriza or the 5 Star Movement in three, seven or ten different countries. Yeah ... I really think it's about this storyline of a global social movement.

    CC: You do not think that is too optimistic?

    MW: I think we live in a time when activists are so focused on what seems possible that we do not achieve anything. We need to disturb power and not act only in safe ways. That's what Occupy Wall Street and the Arab Spring did. The best activism is the one that asks participants to do the things they fear.
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    Dennis have you seen the latest from Chris Hedges? Just curious.

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    Dennis have you seen the latest from Chris Hedges? Just curious.
    This is from last week:

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    Hi dennis

    Energy dynamics must come first and then social changes will follow and so imo this is basic social thinking...


    Very cool idea though

    Thanx


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    Can you explain why you think this?

    I agree with Wade Frazier and recognize that everything comes down to energy and humanity's journey has been - and continues to be - an energy journey. (Is this what you mean?)

    If we are talking about energy (new energy sources, clean non-polluting energy, "green" energy, free energy) then, do we believe that we will have an easier time making this become our reality if we leave the current minions of the Elite in power, or if the entire US government* is purged and replaced with ordinary citizens vetted to have no corporate ties?

    If the "energy dynamics" that you are talking about are social, then how do you propose energizing the populace to break free from rule by self-serving oligarchs?

    *(As has been noted many times, The Reset Button is a plan and strategy for US citizens to take control of our own governance. Though it will - positively - affect the world, it is not a substitute for citizens in other countries doing something similar in your own country. The Elite Ruling Class are global and have gained control of all governments, including yours - whoever you are, dear reader.)


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    Quote Quote Posted by Nine (here)
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    Energy dynamics must come first ...

    Nine
    Can you explain why you think this?

    I agree with Wade Frazier and recognize that everything comes down to energy and humanity's journey has been - and continues to be - an energy journey. (Is this what you mean?)

    If we are talking about energy (new energy sources, clean non-polluting energy, "green" energy, free energy) then, do we believe that we will have an easier time making this become our reality if we leave the current minions of the Elite in power, or if the entire US government* is purged and replaced with ordinary citizens vetted to have no corporate ties?

    If the "energy dynamics" that you are talking about are social, then how do you propose energizing the populace to break free from rule by self-serving oligarchs?

    *(As has been noted many times, The Reset Button is a plan and strategy for US citizens to take control of our own governance. Though it will - positively - affect the world, it is not a substitute for citizens in other countries doing something similar in your own country. The Elite Ruling Class are global and have gained control of all governments, including yours - whoever you are, dear reader.)
    We simply put an energy device in every home!!

    Wade Frazier tried to do that with a viable technology yet much of his story is about the suppression both from his peers in the endeavor and the local energy gangsters and what he calls Godzilla or the elite as you refer to them. Wade's story is about human nature and basic integrity or the lack thereof and Wade always talked about if there were 100 like Dennis or 100 like Bryan O'leary we would have free energy and Godzilla as he refers to them are like a force of nature to be respected for sure but to avoid if possible and if not to carry on anyway....

    All social problems would simply disappear!

    What is a social problem but an energy problem?

    Should we follow the Georgia Guidestones and kill off nine tenths of humanity?

    Many of the elite call for a program such as that and so many of the elite whom are not insane do not agree and so we have much to work for and with and so be careful of conspiracy as one could give up hope being to close to such things and so hope comes from the positive that good overcomes evil in the end and not the opposite. Of course dear source gives us the ultimate in free will.

    Think about the ramifications of that a moment. If we live in a World of abundance what could we do? No more scarce resources and so many many needs could be met only limited by our creativity!

    Free energy would simply power the reset button....as it were...

    The elite? We replace them or even better we rehabilitate them and harvest those skills they have to better the many..

    Think about how beloved they would be?

    Victim or creator looking at the big picture?

    What does wade talk of?

    The most?

    Personal integrity which to him is scarce and so I do agree and so raise that and we shall have free energy and so to my opinion as to why his work is so very important as is yours Dennis...

    Much lov

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    Dennis

    We simply put an energy device in every home!!

    All social problems would simply disappear...

    The elite? We replace them or even better we rehabilitate them and harvest those skills they have to better the many..

    Think about how beloved they would be?

    Victim or creator looking at the big picture?

    What does wade talk of?

    The most?

    Personal integrety and so raise that and we shall have free energy

    Much lov

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    There's still a social transition that needs to occur.

    Have you ever seen a video of an animal that was raised in a cage, and is finally set free? At first, they don't want to leave the cage, even a cage with the door open. Then their entire body visibly shakes with fear - fear of the unknown - as they take the first few tenuous steps outside the cage. The further socialization takes time.

    I agree that free energy devices will change the world "order", removing hierarchical strata that now divides people, empowering us to quickly evolve socially. But, many won't - not all on their own. The free energy device doesn't come with a syringe full of integrity - that will have to be earned by each of us, individually. Many people (with a free energy device) will be stuck in old patterns, and will fear the unknown. Among other things, the fear of the unknown includes self-governance (few of us have had experience at self-governance.) There will be shaky feet stepping out of the cages.

    The Reset Button certainly isn't a substitute for Wade's ultimate goal, but it may help facilitate its acceptance, and if successful, then society will shift toward cooperation and away from competition, as people step out of the cage - free at last - and become their own unique sovereign selves. In other words, The Reset Button will create the environment for people to make the societal transformation away from the old greed-driven, competitive model toward a new love and compassion-driven cooperative model - and experience being in control and responsible for our actions. So, it's an important step in our social evolution and would almost undoubtedly help make the transition to free energy smoother.


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    Dennis,

    The reset button will get power from free energy..

    Quote The Reset Button certainly isn't a substitute for Wade's ultimate goal, but it may help facilitate its acceptance, and if successful, then society will shift toward cooperation and away from competition, as people step out of the cage - free at last - and become their own unique sovereign selves. In other words, The Reset Button will create the environment for people to make the societal transformation away from the old greed-driven, competitive model toward a new love and compassion-driven cooperative model - and experience being in control and responsible for our actions. So, it's an important step in our social evolution and would almost undoubtedly help make the transition to free energy smoother.
    We are upon the same page here...just an opinion.

    The energy is here now in the ether as Tesla talked about as did all the mystics....

    The technology is older than my time upon this planet and so which came first the chicken or the egg?

    Energy or conscientiousness or both together?

    Only questions for me and few answers and so the need of a choir to discuss and Analise? Maybe? what is the harm in it really?

    thanx..

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    Dennis,

    I was set free due to forced American style retirement.

    Quote Have you ever seen a video of an animal that was raised in a cage, and is finally set free? At first, they don't want to leave the cage, even a cage with the door open. Then their entire body visibly shakes with fear - fear of the unknown - as they take the first few tenuous steps outside the cage. The further socialization takes time.
    I am doing just fine after I was let out. The American Federal cage is one of the worst. And so I am here as a survivor of such a thing as that...

    Concentrating upon the cage is not the answer and so concentrating upon freedom is the answer IMO...of course that is a personal unsourced opinion....dearest Dennis...

    thanx


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    Hey Dennis, and Nine, few and far between, perhaps, though this is easily correctable through some slight changes in education, even at the primary school level, and of course some re-education. As an example of few and far between, the closest city to me here is the capital of Canada, Ottawa, and, in this city there are only something like 20 listings in the yellow pages for refrigeration contractors. I'm one of them, and, we all know each other, more or less, because what it is is something like 50 guys, all master refrigeration mechanics, and we keep all of the food and beverages cold throughout this city. All the beer cold and all the ice cream frozen. All the produce and even all of the industries here that also need cold space. So, that ratio is 50 out of 1 million. 0.00005% of the population. And, the same is true for the 50 or so master electricians who keep all the lights on here.

    The reality is, and has been since our first industrial revolution, the plough and the agricultural revolution of some 12,000 years ago, that we just do not need all of us, and in my mind, we never have needed all of us. Not even close, actually, so, this is what enabled us to build beautiful buildings and create masterpiece works of art. Literature, music, things that have nothing to do with food and shelter, yet are just as important, IMHO.

    I'm also a master electrician, and have had a sort of unique education and have spent time with some of the best industry leaders in our world. The history of machines is a fascinating journey that goes back way before even the year 0. Because of the rise of the fossil industrial complex, much of this has been discarded, yet there are still those who keep the knowledge of these many wondrous things alive.

    Nine, the reason Tesla said it was in the ether, or perhaps those not knowing enough interpreted it that way, was that most people are not educated in basic electrical construction. I'm not really sure what the ether is, and it may be a fictional place, but electricity, and EMF are everywhere and all the time. You just can't see it, save when large amounts of it discharge at once, as in lightning strikes. For example, say you had a gasoline powered generator that you were using to build a cottage or something before the power lines were run. Part of that machine is the internal combustion engine, and all that does is provides a spinning motion to the electrical generator that is attached to it. Turbines in a hydro electric dam are the very same. When they spin, electrical current is gathered. I say gathered, rather than generated, because one of the laws of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed: only moved.

    So then, in both of these examples, the gas generator and the hydro turbine, where then does the electricity come from?

    Well, there are magnets in those generators, and what those magnets do is break the magnetic field of the other magnets with them. Copper wires are wrapped around those permanent magnets that are in them, and the constant breaking of the magnetic fields, in the one direction of spin that they move, causes current to flow down those copper wires. It's actually very simple and elegant.

    And where does the electricity come from? In all cases, the immediate surrounding area. They pull it right out of the sky, the side of the machine itself, and the ground below it. It comes from the immediate surrounding area.

    Anyway, perhaps Tesla just said that, because people just couldn't wrap their minds around so much invisible energy everywhere and all the time, however that is the reality of it.

    Oh, and, regarding self governance, well, we are already like that. My brothers keeps me in line, and I them. The people I tip beers with at the local watering hole would frown on me, and dis-assocoate with me would I to behave like an arse. My co-workers and friends and family all play a role in who I am, and this is true for all of us.

    We are social creatures, and, we are all born dependant. Human children will die if they are not touched within 48 hours of being born. It takes us years to be able to be put out to pasture, and fend for ourselves. Governance of this sort is automatic and built into us.

    I don't think our problems stem from governance or lack there of, I actually think imposed governance is more problematic to us than if we were just left alone with it. That's IMHO.

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    Quote Nine, Post #194 : "We simply put an energy device in every home!!... […] ...All social problems would simply disappear..."
    Quote Dennis, Post #195 : "I agree that free energy devices will change the world "order", removing hierarchical strata that now divides people, empowering us to quickly evolve socially. But, many won't - not all on their own. The free energy device doesn't come with a syringe full of integrity - that will have to be earned by each of us, individually... [...] ...The Reset Button certainly isn't a substitute for Wade's ultimate goal, but it may help facilitate its acceptance, and if successful, then society will shift toward cooperation and away from competition, as people step out of the cage - free at last - and become their own unique sovereign selves."
    For whatever this is worth, my understanding of Wade's work is that putting FE devices in people's homes (to help ease our emotional/physical lives and create conditions more conducive to inner/outer abundance) likely can't happen unless, first, enough people raise their level of integrity and heart sentience to create harmonic effects that (1) can bring about that event to begin with, and (2) help that raised consciousness ripple through the collective consciousness. So it would seem he is saying that the deeper integrity, and the introduction of the machines, go hand in hand - even if (according to that) you do not need the entire collective of humanity to raise their integrity to receive and begin using the technology.

    I'm inclined to agree with you Dennis that having an FE device will not create an instant cure for emotional habits and insecurities that are generations old and hard-wired into people, though it could positively effect millions (perhaps billions) enough to change in their own lifetime. I can imagine it changing humanity over generations so that increasing numbers are born into and develop (through formative years) in a world that is more abundant, less competitive, and less doom-laden by pollution and poverty (pretty sure you'd agree.)

    Even politicians have reminded us over time that once we have democracy, it doesn't just take care of itself. Like it or not, it needs to be actively tended and safeguarded. That applies to any form of democracy, whether at home in a marriage/family, or in state governance. People having FE devices will not negate the need for state or local governance overnight. Until people can be totally self-sufficient, either technologically or psychically, jobs and public services will still be necessary, and will need fair and efficient government by those with the specialised knowledge to keep the cogs of our infrastructure running.

    It's the same with the argument of whether changing the electoral system is really worthwhile if you still have powerful parasites pulling the strings from far above/beyond government level. Actively participating in reforming the government we can see, and focusing on the good we have in common, is one way to counter the parasites. Those kinds of parasites feed off of our apathy and the conflicts between us that distract us from our higher and kinder, creative selves.

    All independent acts of integrity/decency contribute to an influential collective energy and to progress. Whether it's via creating a peaceful, sovereign life with FE power, or by changing and holding to account our system of government.

    So if FE arrives to help reduce our burdens so we can focus more on fixing our electoral processes - wonderful. If resetting our electoral systems so they are wiser, and fairer (and help us introduce clean energy) happens first - brilliant. Fuelling efforts to help both happen, working in tandem, seems both logical and necessary.

    Dennis, I don't mean to distract your thread focus with this post that is likely a one-off - until a point where I feel more qualified. And I hope you don't mind my chiming in before I've read your Reset Button document in its entirety. It's been on my list for a very long time, and I really appreciate you doing it, and your being here in general.

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    There's a guy from ... the Ukraine, I think, who has 7 machines, the designs of which are all from past times, that he re-built and that all keep moving indefinitely. He's looking for a museum or something to house them permanently. I myself have built a Dynamo from just magnets and a wheel that also seems to never stop turning. Dynamo's are what powered all of the 2,500 or so lighthouses that line the path from England round Africa to Asia, marking all of the rocks that sunk many of the wooden ships that were part of those early trade routes. These lighthouses started going in in the late 14 and early 1500's, and they all utilized arc electric lights, since, no flame based system was first, even bright enough, and second who's going to keep bringing them fuel???



    It's actually much simpler than you may imagine. As a general rule, I say, if it's complicated and not simple, you're barking up the wrong tree. Nature and the mechanical and physical world are nothing of the sort. If things were truly that complicated, nothing would exist to begin with.

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