How do you think the soul promotion(5D) will happen?

[WhiteFeather]

This explains it a bit for me. Great message by The Hopi Elder. Got Spirituality? Time to get centered.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHMe3F411E

[Neptun]

double post

[Feritciva]

I've been thinking on this for a while too. And I too believe it has already began. Some people even made the transition - be they aware or not.


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I think "3 days of darkness" is not physical - it's not even collective. It's purely in consciousness and very personal. And these 3 days are "yesterday - today - tomorrow". There is a point in soul's progress - getting free of 3D constructions, let's say - that everything is dark, meaningless and very hard to cope. This may or may not manifest itself in outside world too - like losing jobs, divorces, leaving one's birth place, big material losses etc. These outside manifestations may also add to this feeling of darkness - or can make these 3 days even longer. Unfortunately it seems this 3 days of darkness is necessary for getting through 4D & 5D for average person. If one is very well evolved he/she may not live through this but they are very rare and possibly they are incarnated light beings who is here to help 3D people to make this transition.

In this darkness time, it is crucial how a person responds. If he/she falls to old structures/old thinking/old paradigm (like organised religions, searching for a guru etc) he/she may end up in negative side of 4D/5D. If he/she thinks everything he has done is meaningless and in vain, he may get stuck in 3D to repeat it for another lifetime(s).

I don't think 5D is a trap. This thinking is not helpful. One may also think 3D is trap, look there are wars, poverty, hunger, violence etc in the world. But 3D also has nature, love, friendship, Pink Floyd etc. Depends on what you look for and where you choose to be in your life time.

That's all for now. Personally i'm in the middle of this 3 days of darkness. If/when i find the light, i may also write about it.

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[WhiteFeather]

IMO..,..5d is not a trap, 3d is the trap and 3d has been a trap for eons. Many want to leave this 3d trap and graduate or ascend if you will, Mother Earth has been tampered with by the upper hierarchy keeping us in 3d. Hope this helps. PS Im looking to hopefully graduate Planet Earth this year, i might just have enough credits. Just need to work a little more on my final thesis.

[DreamsInDigital]

The way it's been explained to me is like with the visual of a cracking dam that's been holding back the colorado river, it's cracking and water/energy is seeping out. But, soon that dam is going to break and crumble to pieces all that water/energy is going to come rushing out. Our consciousness is going to expand, and that expansion will be what pushes us into 5D. But, it's only going to happen once all the Cabal, and Regressive Reptoids and Grays are removed from the planet, as they and their negative energy are what is holding us all back. Hopefully what I'm saying and the way I'm explaining it makes sense.

[Wind]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
IMO..,..5d is not a trap, 3d is the trap and 3d has been a trap for eons. Many want to leave this 3d trap and graduate or ascend if you will, Mother Earth has been tampered with by the upper hierarchy keeping us in 3d. Hope this helps.

It's a trap... At least for us wanderers/lightworkers, but then again we chose to come aid Mother Earth in this time of transition. I must say what on Earth was I thinking back there?! How foolish of me... Or brave?

[nearing]

It's always been my understanding that our waking reality is 3D and our dreaming (when we lay down to sleep and our brain swtch to Delta waves) is 4D. Going to 5D would rise a bit above both of them.

[Delight]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
The way it's been explained to me is like with the visual of a cracking dam that's been holding back the colorado river, it's cracking and water/energy is seeping out. But, soon that dam is going to break and crumble to pieces all that water/energy is going to come rushing out. Our consciousness is going to expand, and that expansion will be what pushes us into 5D. But, it's only going to happen once all the Cabal, and Regressive Reptoids and Grays are removed from the planet, as they and their negative energy are what is holding us all back. Hopefully what I'm saying and the way I'm explaining it makes sense.

This idea that we are not able to "expand" in consciousness until a removal of "something" outside us does not seem to hang together to me anymore. It seems to me that the "removal" is what Sebastion referenced as a "burning off" of those beliefs which constrain us. But if we refuse to actively court the burning off, we may be very uncomfortable indeed. Resistance creates friction and friction is what is painful.

In looking at the Archons as a synthetic parasitic "entity" which infects and controls, I had to encounter my own willingness to subscribe to such a construct. Then I recognized that my paranoia of being controled was the very "problem" of my own imprisonment in a constraint of powerlessness. Then I looked at how this in a way was comfortable. Why? Because as long as there is a reason outside me, I'd not be responsible and could blame my discomfort and project and take the "heat off"

The part of me that has actually been "enjoying" the boundary is fairly paralyzed by the idea of freedom to expand. It feels stark fear at the prospect. This looks like the Cave of Plato. The shadow world is so familiar. What is outside is the devil I do not know. The preferable devil is my familiar one (hehe).

It gets a bit "rabbit hole-ish" because I have actually been feeling the walls closing in personally so that I sense I must expand or will surely die. Something in me is insistent to crack the walls myself so I can live through this change. It hurts a bit (No, alot). The 3 days of darkness may well be when we are able to sense the limits and yet cannot embrace being cracked open and so we are stuck for a moment and it is DARK.

I think that by its very nature, consciousness must crack the dam because maybe in this "time", this is what consciousness chooses for us whether we are"ready" or not. I am not certain we have a choice of anything but how we experience the opening.

This is my mythology....Maggie

[Paula]

For some, it’s Now. My focus is not so much on the ‘how’ or ‘when’ because it will happen in an instant. Whether it be through stages of recognition or in an instant, anything and all is possible.

Descriptions of what it is or is not, really don’t matter. We are in the last stages of shedding these skins. There is a quickening phenomenon. A process of awakening to our greater beings. There's a defining moment when you either sense, or a gut knowing, or hear inside the head, "Now what?, what else?"  Just dial up the listening. It's an inner listening. Raise the Light vibration.

The goal is to shed fears through honesty of whatever prevents you from becoming part of the Whole. Stop behaviors that divide. Encourage everyone to find what brings them to a state of inner peace. Become aware of how you spread your presence. How you effect change through giving of yourself without the expectation of something in return.

If everyone makes a slight adjustment in unconditional living, we can shift the balance from ordinary consciousness to our Higher Consciousness. One small change, spreading in intensity towards the sleepers at the ready to awaken. How? Through modeling. You live your best life, and others intuitively pick up on the essence and sincerity of their Oneness of Whole, whether it be through stages of recognition or in an instant.

FFT: If this "5D and beyond" is bunk, we’ll still live upon Mother Earth in Higher Consciousness where everyone has a full belly and everyone has a warm, dry place to sleep in the Now, of the One. Win-Win.

[Mozart]

There are quite a few misconceptions about the nature of 3-D, 4-D and 5-D.


My perceptions of these densities and dimensions are based on the Ra Material.

http://www.lawofone.info/

And I'm very confident that the Ra Material is not in error about these densities / dimensions.


So, to start with: 3-D.


3-D space/time is the physical reality that we all function and live in; we share a 3-D dimensional reality, but it has an infinite number of levels within that 3-D reality.


When we dream, we slip into the 3-D time/space reality, which is via our astral body into dream time. 3-D time/space is a mirror of 3-D space/time, but the former is the dream world, the latter is the waking, physical world.


3-D space/time = waking, physical reality; three dimensions of space, one dimension of time.

3-D time/space = dreamtime; three dimensions of time, one dimension of space.


And, yes, 3-D space/time reality can be perceived to be a "trap" -- via the karmic binds of the Laws of Karma being applied if one incurs karma while being incarnate in 3-D space/time.


The veil of illusion is fully in effect in 3-D space/time, so it is by that veil that one can forget one's own roots of coming from the higher dimensions (4-D, 5-D and 6-D) as wanderers who bravely choose to incarnate here in 3-D space/time in order to help with the ascension process that's happening right now.


But hardly anybody gets stuck forever ... all wake up eventually; however, it can feel like a dizzying merry-go-round for a bit, though!


One does not "choose" to go to a higher dimension -- one moves forward into the dimensions to the point where one cannot handle the increasing brightness/intensity of the part in the dimension, then one is forced to stop at one's limit of tolerance of the intensity of Light/Love that one can take -- that's the limit of how far one can progress.


So that limit can be anywhere ... beit 3-D to 5-D. In 6-D, one must merge one's duality and become unified in their beingness if one wants to progress any further.


The veil of illusion is in full effect in 3-D space/time; the veil can be penetrated, but it takes a lot of effort to do so. The veil of illusion is not in effect in 4-D and 5-D, but the energies of duality continues in those dimensions, albeit with far greater harmoniousness than in 3-D. 4-D and 5-D are heavenly Nirvana, compared to the crazy 3-D ... that's by design of how the respective realities function.

[<8>]

Hi..

Many of us seems to have forgot about how we ended up where we are at this point, my view, I have is that most of us have gone through alot of pain and suffering.
And now many of us is all caught up what's going on around the world with all the insanity and we feel we need to help to save what we can.
And even if that might be a noble quest and all are free to do so if they want.

Its really more pain and suffering we need to wake up more people.


Now, if there is an intervention in the end of this year, I would say great in that moment.

But for now I stay away from mind believes..

..8..

[Forevernyt]

I hope this doesn't sound like fear mongering, but this thought popped into my head while I was walking to lunch. What if, the whole ascension to the 5th density takes place due to the building 4 collapsing at Fukushima? And what if the collapse happens on 12/21/12?

Many souls would be free from the 3rd density and able to move on to higher realms.
It's just a thought.

[wynderer]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
IMO..,..5d is not a trap, 3d is the trap and 3d has been a trap for eons. Many want to leave this 3d trap and graduate or ascend if you will, Mother Earth has been tampered with by the upper hierarchy keeping us in 3d. Hope this helps. PS Im looking to hopefully graduate Planet Earth this year, i might just have enough credits. Just need to work a little more on my final thesis.

exactly -- i've been reading thru this thread & wondering when someone would bring up the Matrix -- as i see it , both our 3D bodies & our 4D minds [includes the unconscious, & the astral planes, some of them anyway] are trapped in an EMF/thought forms Matrix

i don't think this is true for the 3D Universe in general -- it's only planet Earth & maybe the rest of our solar system that are in the middle of a silent takeover by an expanding galactic empire

edit to answer the original question of this thread -- i had a very real dream maybe 10 yrs ago -- i was on a cliff overlooking the ocean -- a rather large swath of land --[at the time i had a bumper sticker that read ' GO LEMMINGS GO!] i could see other Humans scattered around the cliff top here & there -- & i could feel that there were many many more beings --all Human -- all around us but in another dimension

suddenly something happened -- in a FLASH! -- all the invisible humans diappeared -- the rest of us were all looking at each other -- some huge dark heavy weight that we had all be boen into & lived in all our lives was GONE! a sense of freedom! & joy -- we were all telepathically communicating about this

[buckminster fuller]

The whole 3d / 4d / 5d /6d thing is a trap in itself, once people realise that change is initiated through will, and not owned in any way, or thanks to outside help, the world will be a better place for all. Life happens outside. Helping yourself and others is the only way.

[REILLY]

Caution, contains violence:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o

I favor the terminology derived from the Law of One, as I see the colors as being slightly less confusing as using the numbers, but misunderstanding arises, nonetheless. One word can mean several different things, given by context, and in our new age lingo, we use many words in new and different ways, which furthers the confusion of communication. That which is emenating from the blue ray, that is enticing us toward it with which some of us see as empty promises which others of us bet the farm on. There is a trap, and one must exercise one's discernment to the utmost to be sure of the nature of whatever is leading us personally, spiritually. We all need to understand better why we raise our vibrations, in my understanding. If the purpose is to escape an uncomfortable situation, to be saved upon by an outside source, then in my estimation, much more internal analysis needs to be done, and one's sources should be examined further. When the calvary arrives, it becomes apparent that we are it. We are promoted/graduated when the choice is made and internal balance is realized.

[another bob]

Buddhism has spent nearly 3 millenia considering the issue, and provides us with the following criteria for "graduation" from this realm:

!. Penetrating the illusion of a separate and enduring self

2. Relinquishing all doubt and skepticism regarding one's true nature and condition

3. Seeing through and discarding all beliefs and second-hand dogmas

4. Transcending all craving, greed, and envy

5. Eliminating all hate and ill will

Of course, this is not the end of the story by far, just the end of the kindergarden curriculum, where we have come to learn the basics of how to behave.

[pilotsimone]

I don’t see how I can significantly shift in consciousness without facing ALL of my fears…sincerely feeling (grieving) the traumas I’ve endured and buried.

Because of how painful this can be (I’m highly sensitive and tend to resist), I too view this as my metaphorical 3 days of darkness.

I’ve felt more than a handful of times over the last few years that I am dying…while going through the process of dealing with my deep-seated fears (lots of survival issues with me).

Many of my friends and family are starting to feel the squeeze. Illness, divorce, job loss, and death are starting to hit their personal lives…giving them the opportunity to deal with their own 'stuff'.

This is why I don't feel eager to burden them with too much alternative media info (in order to wake them up). I can sense that it's overkill...unnecessary.

The idea of one event (such as 12/21/12) taking care of all that FOR us, doesn’t resonate with me. One event may kick off an awakening, but the work must be done.

I just can’t see anyway around that...though I admit my limited view.

[jorr lundstrom]

Reading through this thread I feel like a retired station-master,
sitting on the station watching the trains pass. Here comes a
train, I dont give a damn. And here comes yet another, i dont
care about that either. And here comes.............

You are all so sweet and wot a lot of word you produce.

Kiss....... LOL





All is well


Jorr 2.0

[Carmen]

Does that come with being 62 jorr? I sort of just watch nowadays! Everything has become quite hohum. You know, been there, done that, read that, got that! Observing in silence seems to be my lot here on this forum now. Not that I'm complaining, it's very peaceful and quiet. And I've gone right off the topic! sorry!!

[another bob]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Reading through this thread I feel like a retired station-master,
sitting on the station watching the trains pass. Here comes a
train, I dont give a damn. And here comes yet another, i dont
care about that either. And here comes.............