Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

[Ishtar]

Oh... well, I tell people I'm a shaman, as does Drake in Vivek's post which I hadn't seen until now. Otherwise, how will they know where to go to get healing or guidance etc? Most people are not mindreaders.

And then there's this bit...

I am known as The Dragon Master, White Dragon, as is stated in the old legend. I still have a few requirements to meet before the great conflict starts.

He was specifically asked about that, and he said No.

Personally, I think the man is full of it!

[WHOMADEGOD]

Posted by christian (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
The mass arrest thing. For the life of me I can't imagine why you would give "the bad guys" a heads up that you're coming to get them. I'm no military strategist, but I reckon West Point doesn't teach it's a good idea to strike up the band when you're about to pounce on the enemy.

It's not appropriate to reveal certain details beforehand. But saying "we'll get you" is like Ali saying "I'll knock you out in round 1". In the business of creating a reality, affirmations, suggestions and assertiveness can be very valuable. The existence of white hats within the system and the formation of a movement that intends to hold "the bad guys" accountable was always a certainty in the bigger picture. Drake is not revealing any secret crucial information about where and when anything happens. One aspect of what he does is doing a war-growl, as do the "globalists" in their ways.

What I particularly like about Drake is that he reminds people, that there are quite some awake and positive people working within the system and in a calming and inspiring way he gets people to consider the possibility of a peaceful transition, that involves holding the perpetrators of our current flawed system accountable. In this way he really helps to plant nice seeds in the minds of men. It's a thin line however, one could argue this scenario does not involve personal responsibility, which is key in our collective evolution, but I didn't notice him saying "we'll fix it for you, you helpless ones", on the contrary I heard him talk about what people can do to be a balancing, stabilizing and creative factor in the whole equation. And I think through discerment one can realize this anyways, that mass arrests are one piece of the puzzle, we filling that power vacuum in a creative and responsible way another.

Sorry for writing off-topic, regarding all the other information about Drake, I have not doublechecked and researched it all yet, but anyways, it's a very intruiging thread and nice to read something from you again Fred

My intuition tells me you are correct.

This was never about clandestine strategy, it would of course be rediculous to assume it could remain as such to the point of manouvre.

No, tbis was always a warning for the elite to backdown and accept clemency before the war drums sounds. The ones that can still understand that this is the creators divine right will be helped, the others are of course playing their part in the play for as long as it is required.

[Vivek]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I cannot think of a single "master" that has ever labeled himself as anything - at least from everything I have ever read. Normally it is everyone else that places labels upon each other. What does that say about us?

Drake has labeled himself "The White Dragon", "The Dragon Master", and has said that he was "recomended by the lesser gods to the greater gods, and given great understandings, those beyond most comprehension...because of this [he is] attempting to offer information to be heralded through-out mankind, that man might once again be free to enjoy peace."

These are labels. I do not know if they are self appointed or not as I have yet to find any legend/myth that fits what he has described (there is more than what I just quoted). I could come up with a quilt of different themes that I think are interrelated though in order to cover what's been uncovered. If that makes any sense haha

[noprophet]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
Did y'all know that there is Qabala (Ha Qabala/QBL) with means enlightenment, and then there is Kabalah (KBL) meaning confusion?

and Lucifer and Satan where to separate beings originally before they both got swept under the name "the Devil"

points well made - - Thanks Vivek... you have a fan in justone

To the best of my knowledge kabbalah simply means "to receive" in hebrew. Qabalah was a variant spelling created by the golden dawn. Probably for elaborate reasons of using gemetria outside the hebrew alphabet.

Where is this translation of confusion derived from?

[Ishtar]

Vivek, the sword and dragon goes back to all the various storm gods who defeated the serpent/python/dragon, by slaying them with a sword.

The first ones are:
Marduk slays Tiamat (Babylonian)
Indra slays Vritra (Vedic)
Thor slays Jormungandr (Norse)
Zeus slays Typhon (Greek)

The more recent Christian ones are St George slaying the dragon, and St Michael slaying the dragon.

By the way, if you're about to plunge into Enki/Enlil et al for the first time, can I suggest you read this first? The Anunnaki and the Fear of the Bogeyman.




I've always thought it was an astronomical metaphor for an End of Ages (signified by a flood). According to Hamlet's Mill (a must read for understanding astronomy metaphors within ancient myths) it signifies the changing of the astrological age at the precession of the equinoxes. It is usually the Hero who releases the waters of the firmanent, or the flood of milk (Milky Way) from the grip of a sea serpent, or dragon, at the end/beginning of a cycle, so that this birth/death or creation/destruction can take place. The flood is a metaphor for the amniotic sac bursting, dying, to release the waters heralding new life, as it does during human childbirth.

The next change of ages will take place as we go from Pisces into Aquarius. There is much controversy about when those dates actually are, mainly due to various monks screwing up our calendars!

[billyji]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Drake has labeled himself "The White Dragon", "The Dragon Master", and has said that he was "recomended by the lesser gods to the greater gods, and given great understandings, those beyond most comprehension...because of this [he is] attempting to offer information to be heralded through-out mankind, that man might once again be free to enjoy peace."

These are labels. I do not know if they are self appointed or not as I have yet to find any legend/myth that fits what he has described (there is more than what I just quoted). I could come up with a quilt of different themes that I think are interrelated though in order to cover what's been uncovered. If that makes any sense haha

As i mentioned on the previous page. Enoch is the legend/Mythical or factual one who was chosen to intercede between the lesser Gods and Greater Gods.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l-Dragon/page4

I would be very pleased if Drake reads this thread and responded in one of his radio shows .

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Vivek (here)

Also, I couldnt find what Sumerian God was associated with Uranus or Saturn ... nothing definite anyway... anybody?

Hi Vivek, most excellent thread! Thank you for taking the time for all this research, so her's my little contribution if you havent found it already. According to this site,http://www.mallorcaweb.net/masm/mitsat1.htm our old friend Ninurta is the god associated with Saturn. As an aside I found it interesting the word 'Shamah' was also associated with Saturn. Scroll down about half way and you'll see this:

There are other aspects of Ninurta that fit but with our conventional Saturn symbol. Was associated frequently it with the arms, represet&o it to it like an eagle, sometimes an eagle bifronte that watched two opposed sides, image that still is in a the heráldica. Equally difficult to cuadrar with the later tradition it is his solar association: some Roman writers indicate that the mesopotámicos astrologers called to Saturn the Helium star (the Sun) . It reflects one old & dark practice to give the name of Shamah to Saturn, as well as to the Sun Epígenes de Bizancio, approximately 200 a Greek astronomer of a.C., can provide the key to us. It said to have studied in Chaldea, the region of the southern Babylonia that became famous like origin of the astrology. Epígenes taught that Saturn had the Maxima influences on the movements of other celestial bodies, & we can conjecture that that is the reason that Ninurta / Saturn is known him like second Sun .

[Vivek]

Ishtar,

Drake has stated that he can create storms. I didn't put the quote in the OP but it is buried in one of the links. Here it is:

...I can cause and direct storms...

Source: http://community.humanityhealing.net...89:Topic:65703

The context of the quote was talking about weather warfare and HAARP, you can read all of it if you'd like. I have only pulled what I thought was pertinent to your comment about storm gods.

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Vivek, the sword and dragon goes back to all the various storm gods who defeated the serpent/python/dragon, by slaying them with a sword.

I wonder what Drake means when he says he wields the "all facing rainbow sword". My first thought is that this was an astral weapon or something like that. He mentioned his friend "The Guardian of the Gate" as well.

It made me think of Aleister Crowley and the Amalantrah Working and maybe Drake is guarding some interdimensional gate or something? I don't have to believe it... I'm just going off what he himself has written:

To be blunt, only if 'they' can pass by me 'they' will gain access to all the rest of you...like it or not, I was given the all facing rainbow sword. It was inferred with responsibility to defend our existance against those who are the thieves of light. These are few, have limited powers, and seem to like challenging me. The challenges are on several levels, physical realm, psychic, and mental power abilities. To date, I find their best to be lacking and...

Source: http://community.humanityhealing.net...le/DrakeBailey



Also, I have read about the Annunaki, I just haven't gone as in depth as if I were studying for an exam. Your information is very helpful, thank you.

[Vivek]

Posted by noprophet (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
Did y'all know that there is Qabala (Ha Qabala/QBL) with means enlightenment, and then there is Kabalah (KBL) meaning confusion?

and Lucifer and Satan where to separate beings originally before they both got swept under the name "the Devil"

points well made - - Thanks Vivek... you have a fan in justone

To the best of my knowledge kabbalah simply means "to receive" in hebrew. Qabalah was a variant spelling created by the golden dawn. Probably for elaborate reasons of using gemetria outside the hebrew alphabet.

Where is this translation of confusion derived from?

Hello noprophet,

Thanks for your contribution. Here is the webpage from which I gleaned my information:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward465.htm

And here is an excerpt:

Strictly speaking, according to Gardner, Qabala (or the QBL, meaning “enlightenment”) should not be equated to Kabalah (or the KBL, meaning “confusion”) or worse yet, to the Kabbalah (or KBBL, implying even greater intrigue and twisting). The latter, in fact, is related to the English work, cabal (which is defined as “a secret intrigue, a political clique or faction”). Similarly, the Jewish mystical tradition, the cabala, cabbala, or kabbala, is defined as “mystic interpretation; any esoteric doctrine of occult lore”. One can view the distinctions as two separate movements within mystical thought, one of which, the Ha Qabala, has been largely ignored in recent centuries.

One reason for this is that “Qabalistic masters maintain that it was not the serpent (Enki) [in the Garden of Eden] who was the deceiver as we are led to understand. The deceiver in this instance was Enki’s half-brother, Eloh-Jehovah (Enlil), who said that Adam would die from eating the fruit.” Small wonder that the “confusion” of the Kabalah has taken mainstage over the “enlightenment” of the Ha Qabala. And while Adam was ultimately enlightened by the female (having been prompted by Enki) as to the true circumstances of the eating of the fruit (and thus partially relieved of the deception), the ultimate victims of deceit are the recipients of the corrupted interpretation -- which is the mainstream of Jewish, Christian, and Islamic thought. Enlil’s deception lives on!

This, I think (as I am by far an authority on the subject), is were the truly sacred knowledge of the ancients splits with the perversion that is the "Illuminaughty". I'm probably wearing out the term, but again, sand and sugar.

I've also read that the Age of Aquarius heralds mankinds (meaning man AND women if you follow the etymology) embrace of the intuitive feminine principle of spirituality. Completing the eventuality that was set in motion by eating from the tree of knowledge, lifting the veil of deception/reign of ignorance or something like that.

At least that's where I'm at right now. I'm open to learning more if you care to compare notes.

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I am not sure what to make of this information about "Drake" or what to make of the man himself...

There are a lot of "DRAKE" names popping up all over the place... and this is a common tactic used to discredit. I am not saying the Drake from the interview is a Positive or Negative person, just sharing tactics of a former counter Intel "Student".

Other tactics would also include (If I found his full name and personal info w/is not hard) would "Create Memberships" on Kiddie Porn or other off putting sites, membership at controversial groups or posting on their forums with the real personal info, planting info on his computers or in his Home/Car and then sending the police with search warrants out to greet him etc...

Dis-info and Counter Intel is the SECOND oldest profession (As they like to say) and is a well developed art. You cannot really ever KNOW the facts of ANYTHING you read for sure unless you see it... then if you see it you can only trust so much of what your eyes funnel into your brain and how it is then assimilated.

Even though this is a lot of info coming out, it is only the tip top of the ice berg. I have a feeling when all of this does come about people are going to be popping Xanax like tic tacs.

EDIT: You are also probably aware that these types of agents ARE on these sites and forums all day every day and are also among the people that post in these types of blogs... and NO I am not one of them...

Such fertile and malleable minds we have,

Plant a seed of revelation or a seed of doubt; add a little challenge to ones Ego or sacred beliefs and then it grows around our mind like a "Chia Pet". We will then blindly defend it with as clever of an argument as we can, just to "One Up" the next person and display our superior "Intelligence and Insight".

The easiest targets are the ones that consider themselves enlightened/evolved and that only the simple minded are susceptible to such tactics. That is what makes people so incredibly easy to control and manipulate. It amazes those who are master manipulators to the point that they consider it child’s play.

Thus I am now differing to my earlier post about Dis-Information and Counter Intelligence.

[justoneman]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Please name one person that can be verified to fit any of those descriptions, it is VERY easy to find public records on former (or current) military members & quite often members of CIA,NSA, FBI etc also; I have not heard of ONE verifiable source (individual or otherwise) that corroborates any of this information; you seem to be saying this is not the case.

what I have seen is "internet celeb.s" verifying each other, wilcock verifies fulford, both verify drake, drake verifies both, and round and round we go.... selective perception, hope, ego, these all twist our minds into acceptance of ideas that may not be acceptable to others based on the same information, I understand that and don't discount what I'm hearing just because I'm skeptical, but I have not seen what you hint at here, not at all (and I've been looking).

I know what I say is very contrary to "popular belief" here on P.A.; but that shouldn't (and doesn't) influence truth or the seeking of it; if I am incorrect or have missed something please point me in the right direction.


warm & fuzzy "love" and "intent" aside... we don't need a false cheerleader (drake, if he is indeed "false") to lead our intent or to help us care for / help one another... I sense more "sit back and wait for someone else to save you" mentality here, and I understand just how attractive this is to humans; I also think that it is highly damaging and encourages complacency and in-action.... something I am STRONGLY against.

I can completely understand your position. I know I happen to have an advantage based on specific personal relationships I have and the content and implications of discussions I have had with these folks. But again, you are faced with the same dilemma - "Who am I?" "What do I really know?" Then we can go into the lower levels as to "What proof of anything do I have?" and on and on

At least the Drake experience so far assisted my further personal growth and understanding (of humanity).

I intentionally stated (and have so in several of my posts) that the purported Plan is certainly "my hope." I notice you highlight that in red. I also hope no harm comes to my children. Is hope something we should be ashamed of? Does admitting to having hope invalidate any of my points and positions. I am just being honest and revealing myself in a global sense. I see that as authenticity.

Knowing my position as being a lower Tier 2 individual, in the event the Plan actually becomes visibly operational, I also hope am prepared to act for the greater good of collective humanity.

Most of my focus has been in that direction and I have suggested we share ideas on how we could IF such a Plan actually kicks off.

It is somewhat sad that in a forum where I suspect the more enlightened of humanity are gathered, that even amongst this group we spend most of our time absorbed in discussions as to whether Drake is a fake or whether Drake/Wilcock are being played as opposed to what we - the supposedly more informed and supposedly more enlightened - could do in the event the Plan is real and goes to next stages.

The threads I created along those lines are mostly dead, yet the dissection threads like this one appear live and well - thriving in fact.

What does that say about us?

[wynderer]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
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Such fertile and malleable minds we have,

Plant a seed of revelation or a seed of doubt; add a little challenge to ones Ego or sacred beliefs and then it grows around our mind like a "Chia Pet". We will then blindly defend it with as clever of an argument as we can, just to "One Up" the next person and display our superior "Intelligence and Insight".

The easiest targets are the ones that consider themselves enlightened/evolved and that only the simple minded are susceptible to such tactics. That is what makes people so incredibly easy to control and manipulate. It amazes those who are master manipulators to the point that they consider it child’s play.

Thus I am now differing to my earlier post about Dis-Information and Counter Intelligence.

i picture the Reptilians & buddies hi-fiving each other all over the place after they found Earth Humans & learned how easy their minds are to manipulate

PS -- the whole dragon thing makes me nervous -- Dragon = Draco, as i understand it

[DreamsInDigital]

Wyn,

There is a huge difference between the Draco Reptilians and Dragons. The Draco Reptilians is just because they come from the Draco Constellation, no relation there to Dragons which are an entirely different species from Reptilians all together.

[Ishtar]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Wyn,

There is a huge difference between the Draco Reptilians and Dragons. The Draco Reptilians is just because they come from the Draco Constellation, no relation there to Dragons which are an entirely different species from Reptilians all together.

My research tells me differently. Draco is Latin for dragon and the Draco constellation was thus named because it resembled a dragon/serpent.



Also a dragon is a reptilian and serpentine like creature.

From Wikipedia

The English word "dragon" derives from Greek δράκων (drákōn), "dragon, serpent of huge size, water-snake", which probably comes from the verb δρακεῖν (drakeîn) "to see clearly".[1]

[Vivek]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Wyn,

There is a huge difference between the Draco Reptilians and Dragons. The Draco Reptilians is just because they come from the Draco Constellation, no relation there to Dragons which are an entirely different species from Reptilians all together.

I've read about both, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but are we mixing channeled information with tangible evidence (albeit open to interpretation, i.e. sumerian tablets, history of bloodlines, Dragon Sovereignty, etymology etc)

I remember all of the information about the Draconians/Reptilian/Greys interstellar heritage being mostly channeled material... Just sayin'.. hard to verify IMO set aside intuition...

[Ishtar]

I'm not interested in channelled information, Vivek. Most of it is psy-ops anyway.

Just wanted to clarify that word Draco does mean dragon and the dragons (of course, mythological creatures) derive from the mythological (not historical) sea serpents slain by sword by the storm gods.

[justoneman]

[QUOTE=billyji;475073]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Is this your own perspective of how Bill Ryan perceives Drake or has Bill commented somewhere?
Considering we are never more than 1 meter away from a Rat, Bill may have just "liked" the research that the OP brought forward.

As always move forward with caution.

peace

Hi Peace - I did my best to locate Bill's thread but could not find it - He did make a very specific, cautionary post. I noticed Bill was looking at this very thread last night, perhaps if he does again, he will see your request and locate his thread or make new comments - again, especially after what he (and Avalon) has experienced with Charles, I have to take serious note of Bill's views.

EDIT: What a group of great people we have here! I was just PM'd the link - Here ya go Peace (and all)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...550#post460550

justone

[TargeT]

Posted by justoneman (here)
At least the Drake experience so far assisted my further personal growth and understanding (of humanity).

Lessons everywhere, to be sure!

Posted by justoneman (here)

I intentionally stated (and have so in several of my posts) that the purported Plan is certainly "my hope." I notice you highlight that in red. I also hope no harm comes to my children. Is hope something we should be ashamed of? Does admitting to having hope invalidate any of my points and positions. I am just being honest and revealing myself in a global sense. I see that as authenticity.

Knowing my position as being a lower Tier 2 individual, in the event the Plan actually becomes visibly operational, I also hope am prepared to act for the greater good of collective humanity.

Most of my focus has been in that direction and I have suggested we share ideas on how we could IF such a Plan actually kicks off.

My intent is to get people to act NOW, not wait for a plan, an ET, accention, any such thing... were any of those to happen I do not think that any actions taken "now" would be wasted, if nothing else more lessons can be absorbed & bonds between individuals formed.

my intent is not to simply be a voice of dissent, though it is somewhat that also; I want to see people drive their commute home and think about the difficulties of traveling that route with out a vehicle, consider having a BOB (bug out bag) in their vehicle incase they become stranded by a (very possible) CME that renders most vehicles usless.

consider food, water sources, we have been lulled into a very false sense of security via our lavish (and they ARE lavish, even the "poor" among us live very very well compared to what is required for "life" and especialy when compared to other countries) life styles, our roots are nomatic hunter gather peoples (as best we can tell) and I wonder how many people will be able to do even that.

Posted by justoneman (here)
It is somewhat sad that in a forum where I suspect the more enlightened of humanity are gathered, that even amongst this group we spend most of our time absorbed in discussions as to whether Drake is a fake or whether Drake/Wilcock are being played as opposed to what we - the supposedly more informed and supposedly more enlightened - could do in the event the Plan is real and goes to next stages.

The threads I created along those lines are mostly dead, yet the dissection threads like this one appear live and well - thriving in fact.

What does that say about us?

I would not wait for "the plan" to take effect, even if it were things you could be doing now would be bennificial to you, your community, your family (what ever modivates you....)

I do not consider members of this forum more "enlightened" than "regular people" I consider "us" to be more willing to explore topics that are often ignored; this does not grant anyone a position other than "alternately informed" perhaps, certainly not "enlightened" at least not that I see.

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
Is this your own perspective of how Bill Ryan perceives Drake or has Bill commented somewhere?
Considering we are never more than 1 meter away from a Rat, Bill may have just "liked" the research that the OP brought forward.

As always move forward with caution.

peace

Hi Peace - I did my best to locate Bill's thread but could not find he - He did may a very specific, cautionary post. I noticed Bill was looking at this very thread last night, perhaps if he does again, he will see your request and locate his thread or make new comments - again, especially after what he (and Avalon) has experienced with Charles, I have to take serious note of Bill's views.

This should help?

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Billiji,

Bill Ryan said this here:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Hi, All -- a quick note:

I have to say that I don't believe Drake's testimony. I strongly suspect that David Wilcock is being played to discredit him. If so, this would not be the first time (and certainly not with Ben Fulford, either).

The very idea of announcing 'arrests' beforehand is absurd... if this is all for real. Think of how stakeouts are usually orchestrated. The agencies don't warn the drug gangs prior to the carefully co-ordinated dawn raids.

***

I'm currently traveling, but frequently check the forum for new developments of interest. I also posted this sometime last year: as Mark Twain famously quipped, reports of my death have been somewhat exaggerated.



Warmest regards to everyone, as always -- Bill

[wynderer]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Wyn,

There is a huge difference between the Draco Reptilians and Dragons. The Draco Reptilians is just because they come from the Draco Constellation, no relation there to Dragons which are an entirely different species from Reptilians all together.

My research tells me differently. Draco is Latin for dragon and the Draco constellation was thus named because it resembled a dragon/serpent.



Also a dragon is a reptilian and serpentine like creature.

From Wikipedia

The English word "dragon" derives from Greek δράκων (drákōn), "dragon, serpent of huge size, water-snake", which probably comes from the verb δρακεῖν (drakeîn) "to see clearly".[1]

i know Dracos exist -- not so sure about dragons -- if so, the myths seem to suggest they are just another kind of Earth animal -- & why would St George, presumably a spiritual warrior, waste his time on a big lumbering Earth reptile?

[Ishtar]

Posted by wynderer (here)
if so, the myths seem to suggest they are just another kind of Earth animal -- & why would St George, presumably a spiritual warrior, waste his time on a big lumbering Earth reptile?

Hi wynderer,

I explain the thinking on that in a post just a bit further up this page. Here's the relevant extract:

I've always thought it was an astronomical metaphor for an End of Ages (signified by a flood). According to Hamlet's Mill (a must read for understanding astronomy metaphors within ancient myths) it signifies the changing of the astrological age at the precession of the equinoxes. It is usually the Hero who releases the waters of the firmanent, or the flood of milk (Milky Way) from the grip of a sea serpent, or dragon, at the end/beginning of a cycle, so that this birth/death or creation/destruction can take place. The flood is a metaphor for the amniotic sac bursting, dying, to release the waters heralding new life, as it does during human childbirth.

The next change of ages will take place as we go from Pisces into Aquarius. There is much controversy about when those dates actually are, mainly due to various monks screwing up our calendars!