Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

[Vivek]

Hello all,

This was attatched to the OP and I would like to clarify some things and request further clarification.

... The second part of this is, where they accuse me of being an "Illuminati"
and I really take issue with that because I am not a baby-torturing
thinga-ma-bob that most of the Illuminati are. They accuse me of this
because I, at one time I was affiliated with a group known as Loyal
Order of the Royal Dragon.

Now anybody that's done any homework listening to anything and paid
any attention at all has heard of the White Dragon Society, they have
heard of the "families". That's what this pertains to. It does not have
diddely squat to do with the Illuminati! The Illuminati won't go near
those people for one fact: their orders from the "higher ups" in those
groups is to dismember them on sight. And I guarantee you, I know a few
of these people and they are very much capable of doing just exactly that.
...
Now, I have talked to a couple of people and they're having a little
trouble correlating Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon with the Dragon
Family. This goes to a secret society royal bloodline that are the ones
who kept the collateral accounts safe. Now that's pretty awesome if
you think about it. This is what we're fighting against, the present
economic system, about these people stealing, leveraging borrowing
from these collateral accounts for years. Not only do they owe that,
they also owe a per annum fee for portions of the allowed usage of those
collateral accounts. At this point, they cannot pay.

Well, the problem with the combination of that is, the Illuminati would
love to get their scanners on those accounts, simply so they can continue
to suppress the people, and the efforts of the website tend to show that
these people seem to like that idea, or they would not denigrate someone
without doing research. Now the research is simple. Anybody who's got a
computer can look up "The Vietnam Brotherhood" and see that I'm not the
owner, they don't got one. And I was not the founder,.. I joined long
after they started.

Number two. Anybody with a computer, and you know, you gotta be able
to type a lil bit ... you know, L, O, R, D ... when you put that into
the computer: Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon, look at the Royal Dragon
Society and then you'll understand, because it is a "loyalty oath" to the
morality involved in the lives lead by the people who were responsible,
not only "to" but also "for" other people. For their betterment to make
sure their lives were not... too unbearable, and this was done in a
variety of ways, and has been for thousands of years.

So, you have denigrated the Dragon Families and the people associated
with them in this process.

1. This quote was taken directly from James Furia's page that was linked to in the OP.

These will be comprehensive to the initiates of the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon (the original Nahash Illuminati) obviously anyone stumbling upon these serious meaningful equations will need the backround info of The Code Of The Ancients...

Those aren't my words, they are from the link on Drake's webpage to Jimi's is in the OP.

2. Nowhere is L.O.R.D. found to be associated with the White Dragon Families that Fulford and Wilcock talk about. I've read everything about this particular order (L.O.R.D.) and it's associated study materials - not once does it get into "Dragon Sovereignty" or mention anything about other Dragon Orders (there are some with conflicting polarities).

Nowhere is L.O.R.D. specifically associated with "collateral accounts" or anything to do with politics or government specifically other than what Drake has just now stated. The L.O.R.D. group seems to be almost exclusively academic and spiritual - heavily influenced by the work of Carl Munck, James Furia, Jerry Iuliano (and in turn Dr. D. G. Leahy), along with all of the material linked through the Royal Institute website, and Colin James Hamer for starters.

Now, that's not to say that I don't think L.O.R.D. was a name chosen without careful deliberation (in fact, on Colin Hamer's Neith Network Library/Creativity House site there is an article about the Dragon Bloodlines regarding Cain and Enki.)

While we are on the topic of L.O.R.D. and James Furia, can Drake explain the symbology of this picture that was posted by James Furia:


Source: http://s461.photobucket.com/albums/q...n.jpg&newest=1

This is an earnest question. Regardless of if this picture is harmless or not, it deserves the attention and an explaination. It says "Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon" at the top and has many symbols associated with Freemasonry along with the all seeing eye in a pyramid created by the scrambled names of certain members above the date 1776.

These deserve direct answers - unambiguous, succinct and in plain language.

Out of all of the material in the OP only a few things are suspect and that's what is being discussed. The Imperial and Royal Dragon Court and Order was already brought up and the likelihood of the connect was made with the L.O.R.D.

Again, please read the thread.

3. I fixed that in the OP. Somewhere along the way of going through everything I was left with the impression that Drake was the founder of the Vietnam Brotherhood. A trivial error, and not very relevant considering all of the other information here.

4. Distinctions were made throughout the thread regarding differing polarities of Dragon Bloodlines and the Illuminati as well. It's all in here. That was the point of the thread, to separate the sand from the sugar and get to the bottom of all of this. I wrote that some of the things in the OP had negative connotations so people should have the diligence to look into it all before they lose their grip.

That's all for now.

[ **EDIT/ADD** - This post ties into (expounds on) the one above: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post485299 ]

[billyji]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Hi Mountain Jim

I heard the same radio show you did and have just posted this to BillyJi in the Drake: Updates, clarifications thread.

BillyJi ....you seem to be listening to a different radio show than I and others did, in which Drake states very clearly that his beef is about the LORD being associated with the Illuminati. So unless you have a personal line to him, and he's moving the goalposts, he is threatening to sue this website, this forum and just about anyone who posted in that thread.

So could you say from where you gained the impression you gave above?

they found through a link on his own website.

The man needs to get a grip.

I assure you ishtar that the Scottish mountain air is very good for clearing the cobwebs from the head. you should try it sometime. I gained my impression by listening. I have transcribed what i perceived to hear below for you. and anyone else who has hearing difficulties. continuing on from the already
completed first 11 mins, The first few comments are roughly transcripted when Dave comes in but Drake's is more detailed
My comments are in brackets. peace

Dave comes in

and says Kerry was interviewed by Chris Vortex on revolution radio and ignored his comments in the chat room.

Dave says last week Project Avalon and Camalot were served with multi million lawsuits.( Is this a fact ?) It was

not his lawsuit.

Dave looks for documents that he recieved the previous night and asks Drake to carry on talking.

Drake regrets being involved with Camalot, mentions lawsuit. He says the problem is no longer his and is waiting to

hear back from The White Dragon Family to see what they want to do about it. It is out of his hands.

He says. I would not like them as enemies, (WDF) But Cassidy seems to like that sort of thing.

Drake said he is not going to encourage the WDF to do anything and is leaving it in their hands. Whatever they

decide to do Cassidy is stuck with it.

D.W told him Camalot was a bagrag apparently their earlier site was extraodinary great.

They stepped on their own toes pretty badly. A house built on sand the greater the fall of it.

DRAKE speaks again.

I will make a suggestion that if anyone wants to see the political stance, The link on that particular stance the

link on that particular page. ( I take it he means Vivek's thread ) The article do go into some interesting conversations ( first compliment) That i did when i was doing counceling among other things and they are very arcurite ( second compliment) They are appopite to people looking for answers.

A lot of that was done on the humanity healing website which is basicly a spiritual website that teaches you what the spirit is, how to access it and how to be how your supposed to be, Which is pretty awesome. They do it in a very nice i dunno you feel like a liitle kid watching an adventure when your in there and you have a lot of good people in there.

I was offered to be a permanent part of that but i moved on to other things, now here i am and fun still goes on.

At one point or another some type or another i get a lot of advertising and even bad advertising and even that which is ~~~~~ ( a word i cannot make out but has something to do with Ligigate) Such as the posting on their present site to me is advertising because most of the comments are positive ( third compliment )

Some of these people took the time and trouble to open the links to see the conversations i was having. ( fourth compliment )

And they could see the combination and the reasoning and they applied Knowledge ( fifth compliment) to what the conversation was all about the individual concerned.


Basicly and primary my job was to offer things that could not be found anywhere I dunno the keys to the kingdom the secrets of the universe that kind of thing, you could go to another website where they teach you the same things, its not difficult. anyone can do it. Its a lot of fun when you can walk around and nobody is afraid of you anymore or weary of you just because you are there,

Its really wonderful to walk out into nature and not have to worry about getting stung by a bee, bit by a snake or chased by a mountain lion, its just extraorinary what you learn, the manner in which you fit into the cosmos, what your honest position really is.


But a lot of things came to light for which i had not considered as importantly as i should have that helped me. ( not sure if he speaks of the thread here or being with nature ) If it helped me i am sure it can help someone else. (END)





Thats all i could be bothered transcribing. But like i said it my earlier post not all was negative from Drake

concerning the thread, I did not hear Drake mention Avalon one time. But yes Dave mentions Avalon. All the venom seemed to be directed towards Kerry and Camalot some some reason which i am not in the know. I do not visit Camalot
therefore have no clue why Drake has a greavance there.


EDIT i have just noticed that certain individuals ( Not meaning Vivek as he has stated in the post above that he has made an adjustment ) have gone back and edited their original comments in the last 24hrs. does this mean a change of mind or heart. explain please

Peace

[mountain_jim]

Well billyji - Kerry may have cleared this up, still not helping the credibility of Drake imho.:

(edit - I see this was already posted in other thread, though not Kerry's latest addition about phone call there and Drake's Response)


http://projectcamelotportal.com/inde...=31&Itemid=218

Considering the magnitude fo the misunderstanding on Drake's part, I decided to cut to the chase and call him this evening. Those who listened to my interview on AFR with Keith Scott will know he gave me his phone number at that time.

He has given me permission to write the following:


"Drake recognizes he had the wrong party it was Avalon...Drake has agreed to read my post tomorrow morning his time and post a retraction/apology tomorrow on his Facebook."

We have agreed to talk further in the next few days.

.....

HEY DRAKE,

The SITE you are talking about is not Project Camelot. You are talking about Project Avalon. That is a what is called a FORUM. I and Project Camelot have nothing to do with Project Avalon. Comments about you posted on Avalon are done by Forum members and there is a disclaimer posted on all forums that the owners are not responsible for the opinions of those posting.

PROJECT AVALON is owned and run by Bill Ryan. Bill Ryan and I split up our collaboration on Project Camelot in January of 2010. If you want to sue him (which is ludicrious) he is English! And lives in Vilacabamba. So good luck. Further he is not responsible for the opinions or postings of forum members.

Try getting your facts right. That would go a long way to making you guys worth listening to... Lying about me and Project Camelot is useless.

--Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot

The following link is exactly what I have written in response to Drake's interview with David Wilcock and has nothing to do with what some other person wrote who did investigation of Drake on Project Avalon.

And just for the record, David Wilcock is a friend of mine and has been notified of your lies.

[YvonneG]

I never thought I would post on this thread and I only just came to it becasue it has now wound up on another forum. Frankly, I think that was is true of what Vivek has found ONLY STRENGTHENS MY Trust in Drake being a good guy. The reality folks is that it doesn't matter what you or I think or find or don't find, if Drake is for real and I beleive he is, then there is not a think you can do to stop what he says is going to happen. WHY NOT SPEND YOUR ENERGY PREPARING LOCALLY and finding out where your Sheriff stands and doing all the good things Drake is advicing. There is absolutely nothing bad that he has adviced, that won't help us.

I think there is more going on than Vivek's post that caused Drake's comments. I don't know, just my intuition. Knowing what I know about Drake and the people he is working with, I am sure Drake is not going to be unjustice. Would that some of us had his credentials...

What I do know is that this post has triggered many people, since there are things that trigger us all.

Surprised to find my post here...well so am I!

Heartmath has done 45 years of research on resonance and the heart being stronger than the brain. And they call stress a stress virus. And I feel that is what is operating very strongly now for us and we would do well to back off to our hearts and remember what is still good and what is still real. because no matter what terrible things are happening...they can NOT take your soul or the love your heart actually feels. Sure many of you will possibly respond with some cynical response because I am talking love...well, look, for me freedom ain't worth nothing without love.

Hopefully before responding as some of you do whenever I post, like the hahahaha on my previous post. Consider that you have a heart and that you do love just for a second and consider that no one is challenging you by remind of you of this.

Do you all want to keep feeding the stress virus and the negativity? Don't you think it is possible to search for the truth and present what you find without attacking? Hmmmm...well, i know it is. I see operating in other forums.

[Unified Serenity]

I am really getting sick and tired of the word "Resonate" or any version of the word. For the record, millions of Nazi's resonated with what they were doing. Millions of Cambodians resonated with what they were doing. They felt such heart warming vibes of unity and oneness as they brought peace and stability to their people. So, everytime I hear this word, I sort of roll my eyes, and think of the hundreds of millions who died from the resonating masses following their hearts in perfect unity.

[Ishtar]

You know, when the young boy in the crowd yelled out "The Emperor's got no clothes on!" I wonder how many hangers on of the Emperor's court accused him of 'negative thinking'.

I'm not feeling any stress or negativity taking part in these debates. I'm feeling relaxed and positive about being given the opportunity to say why I think Drake's proposed revolution will be the worst idea of the century.

My answers might be causing others stress, but maybe that's because the stories they hold dear are being challenged. For myself, there is no stress in posting in these threads. Just a willingness to engage in what should be debated to the nth degree before taking any action.

It's not attacking to disagree with you, Yvonne. It's healthy debate.

I do it from the heart, and I do it with love.

[Vivek]

Nullius in verba

[Ishtar]

Take nobody's word for it.... yes, I agree.

Do your own research and carry out your own due diligence, as you have done here so well, Vivek.

There is nothing in this thread that is libellous.

Of course, they have tried to intimidate you and shut you down by threatening to send the ninja boys round. All that means is that they may talk the talk, New Age-style, but they definitely don't walk the walk and so they're not anybody we can follow.

[wynderer]

LOL -- but not really that humorous, as it is true

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I am really getting sick and tired of the word "Resonate" or any version of the word. For the record, millions of Nazi's resonated with what they were doing. Millions of Cambodians resonated with what they were doing. They felt such heart warming vibes of unity and oneness as they brought peace and stability to their people. So, everytime I hear this word, I sort of roll my eyes, and think of the hundreds of millions who died from the resonating masses following their hearts in perfect unity.

[Vivek]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post485048

YAR NESTOR

[Prodigal Son]

[QUOTE=Fred Steeves;474566]

Posted by Vivek (here)
The next in line of people for the alternative community to look to for answers and/or hope outside of ourselves?

When ever we are being prompted to look outside of ourselves for any meaningful answers or solutions, we are being manipulated. It's as simple as that, IMHO that is.

Cheers,
Fred

I know what you're basing this sentiment on, and I understand where it's coming from. I've learned a little about human consciousness and our latent powers. But in this particular situation, when it comes to making a concerted effort to rid the planet of this infection before it completely devours the host, what's the difference between never looking outside of ourselves and never looking outside of American Idol, Miller Lite, Domino's Pizza and the NFL?

[9eagle9]

Resonance is actually familiarity. Like when people throw away Christianity and declare a dead patriachal religions and choose a new age loving religion which is basically Christianity 'lite'---same core values. No punishing OT God but karma to dish out reward and punishment. That's resonance.

No wonder they resonate its the same ****e over and over again. It's gotta be familiar by now.

Posted by wynderer (here)
LOL -- but not really that humorous, as it is true

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I am really getting sick and tired of the word "Resonate" or any version of the word. For the record, millions of Nazi's resonated with what they were doing. Millions of Cambodians resonated with what they were doing. They felt such heart warming vibes of unity and oneness as they brought peace and stability to their people. So, everytime I hear this word, I sort of roll my eyes, and think of the hundreds of millions who died from the resonating masses following their hearts in perfect unity.

[Amzer Zo]

Resonating... without reasoning as in triggered with an external signal much like skull-dwelling-zombies let loose in the world ready to react to their post-hypnotic commands implanted in their mind during these strange incidents under institutionalizations or abductions if not prior to being shoved inside a skull at birth or as a walk-in.

For those curious about the last part above, please check these:

http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip The Programming of a Planet
http://lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip Eye of Ra

[9eagle9]

And confusing resonance with vibration. They got 'misinformed' about that too.

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm not going to invest a great deal of energy in this, but there is something very obvious that has gone unsaid (or at least, that I didn't catch.)

This isn't a pro-Drake thing.

This isn't an anti-Drake thing.

This has to do with integrity, compassion, respect, and a dash of "forum decorum" that I think is intended at Avalon.

For this to really have much context, lets rewind the clock a bit. Let's set the scene:
Before the OP in this thread, what we had was: Someone named "Drake" had been introduced by David Wilcock. Drake said he was the spokesperson for a group of patriots that have been working on a plan to oust the nefarious pretenders to the throne who have taken over the US, and restore sovereignty to the US.

OK, let's stop there just a minute. Do you personally believe that bad guys have taken over the US? (I do.) Do you know of anything, and I mean ANYTHING at all that has even the remotest chance of getting these people out of power? (I don't, and that includes: voting, not voting, 50 million gun brandishing "hunters" storming Washington CD, Occupy Wall Street and its offshoots, and the October 2011 movement. None of them have any chance at all of changing anything, though Occupy certainly woke a few more people up and did point right at the bankers. Still, you have to admit, the Americentric-blob of the Dark Cabal has utter and complete control of the US, and no one has a clue how to change that. If they want Marshal Law, they throw together a big false flag and declare Marshal Law. I want to make clear that this is reality, and that we have literally zero control over what they do and when they do it.)

So, Drake tells us that there is a plan, and that the time has come to tell the general public that it is about to unfold (so the public will know it is not Marshall Law.) I won't go over the particulars of the plan here (this has been covered elsewhere), nor am I going to go over the the logical and emotional reactions to the portion of the plan as revealed (this has been covered elsewhere, too.) Drake does mention that he prefers to remain anonymous.

Nearly instantly, we have people on Avalon making public guesses as to exactly who Drake really is. So much for respecting his wishes, or even showing a modicum of respect. Hey, this isn't Klaus Barbie, it's a guy who is quite likely risking his life, and who asked to remain anonymous. "It's Jim Marrs! I'm positive!" Lucky for Jim Marrs that is wasn't Jim Marrs and that Jim Marrs did't get killed the same night. That was terribly irresponsible. This isn't a game of Dungeons and Dragons or some "reality" TV show. The Dark Cabal murders people. Do you give a crap if someone who is probably risking his life gets murdered because it's fun to guess who this person who asked to remain anonymous is?

But wait, there's more...

Next, we have the full Monty thread (that would be this one), where the full name of the individual who asked to remain anonymous is revealed. In fact, a whole bunch of information is posted about the guy who (yes, I'm going to say it AGAIN) asked to remain anonymous. A guy who apparently committed the crime of ... trying to help.

Do recall that each and every one of us has no way to remove these criminals from power. Oh sure, we can stick our head in the sand, live our own lives with integrity and grace, maybe even stretch beyond selfish hermit to being a truly positive member of community - but we have NOTHING at all that will stop the genocidal, ecocidal maniacs in power. And the one guy that siad he is with a group that is going to try... how do we treat that guy?

Like a liar and a jerk and an idiot.

What happens when, on Avalon, (a site that gained its fame from information from "whistleblowers" and "insiders" - at least some of whom were anonymous) a thread like this appears? A thunderous round of applause for the OP! Over 100 "Thanks!" issued.

And by what logic and what emotion is it justified? You don't believe him.

Because you don't believe him, he doesn't get human respect. Because you don't believe him, he gets "outed", which you obviously don't care if that might mean his own death or the death of family members. You tear into him like jackals because you don't believe him.

This is really an embarrassment for Avalon and the Avalon community.

I suspect that what Drake actually reacted to was this cavalier and callous disrespect. Imagine if it was you. Oh, never mind, you can't envision walking in his shoes. You wouldn't risk your life to take down the Cabal and you know it. You're having too much fun shooting people with your keyboard.

Dennis

[corson]

i disagree Dennis. he has been given a lot of respect. there are many people here who are trying very hard to believe the story, they want to believe. there are many here who already do believe the story, and nothing will change their point of view. and, there are many people here who do not believe the story. the clash of the titans. i do not believe that anyone is purposely trying to make a mockery out of this. i know that i am not. i am just looking for the truth, and i have been told that i need to wake up. it's a deep, dark, mysterious world, we do not know who to trust. i understand what you are saying, and i empathize. i have been silent for several days to wait and see what is going on. we must be careful not to mix emotion with reason, the gist of any good argument is premise and conclusion; validity and soundness, weakness and strength. there is much to unfold, we will see what happens.
warmest, corson

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Fantastic post Dennis.

Too often as has previously been seen before (charles being aperfect example, no judgement either side) where members jump straight on to a thread and start shopoting their mouths off.

For alot of people who love and respect, there does seem at times, complete disregard to the positions of others.

PVM

[Darla Ken Jensen Pearce]

Dennis ~ that was beautiful, eloquent, and perfect. Also REFRESHING. Thanks!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I don't jump to conclusions. If I think someone is wrong, I don't make that personal. But if I think someone is deliberately deceiving thousands of people, I am going to say so and I am going to make no bones about it. I did so with J.Z. Knight whom I proclaimed to be a fraud and a con artist who destroys lives. I have been attacked viciously and often for that. But if this is my belief, then what kind of a person would I be otherwise?

People can have different beliefs and they can be different than mine. But a liar is a liar and I do not suffer fools. And if that means that I am not your idea of love and light and rainbow unicorns then that's ok with me. If that doesn't fit your version of what this community should be, then you and I differ on that point.

And sure, if sixty days from now we are all free forever and living in a thousand years of peace, then I will apologize to Drake privately and publicly. If not, Drake is a liar and a con man. There is no middle ground here. So far, he has shown himself to be a small, vindictive, and petty man more concerned with his own ego than the salvation of billions.

Your words do not shame me. I reject them.

[the_vast_mystery]

To be fair to everyone other than Drake however, if he was 100% serious about what he was doing then there is something to be said for the sentiment that at the moment he began fumbling his facts regarding the legal documentation he sent, and not admitting fault, he opened himself up to this sort of strict scrutiny. After so many people have been taken for a ride so many times that just hammers home the sort of audience you are dealing with. Tell me, do you stick your hand right up in the face of an abused dog to pet it? Do you hit it when it bites your hand in response? Is doing this going to ever bring the dog to trust you? The fact that he couldn't show he cared enough by ensuring his story and every fact presented was straight as an arrow underscores his unseriousness at what he was doing.

Now while I always like to admit to every possibility the likelihood of this being a double-bluff is very slim and because of that at the first sign of him being untrustworthy I can't fault others for wanting to know who he is. Because if you REALLY consider his situation then the fact that he might be lying also means he's lying about being under threat of death or torture. To the external observer one cannot discern whether Drake is telling the truth and engineering a clever double-bluff by fudging important facts or if he's a scheming charlatan trying to claim his fifteen minutes of fame for whatever he can get. (Doesn't have to be just money, some people just want attention.) When considering each possibility to be just as likely, and the possibility of him lying meaning that revealing his identity may not in fact be under threat, again, I can't say I find fault in wanting to know more.

If he's really 100% serious, he should have expected this.