Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

[Vivek]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
OK, so you've outed the mans real name. Kudos to you. The Drake on the radio already stated that he had gone down the path of the dark side and rejected it. Most of what you have uncovered is in line with his passion to do right by humanity. So, what are you (OP) inferring and what is your motive? You seem to have gone out of your way to uncover a bunch of information that does not paint a picture that different from what Drake is saying on the radio. I'm sure that this is the stuff that the OP lives for. However, I prefer to use my intuition to discern truth since anyone can portray themselves as anything they desire at any given moment on the internet. So far, I continue to have a positive feeling about Drake as well as the positive beings that have aligned with him.

I see you have become disturbed from your comfortable state of positive feelings. May I direct your intuition to discern the post above yours before you start slapping your motives on me?

No, on the contrary, your vast research of internet findings has done nothing to effect the vibratory frequency by which I operate. That is not possible by you or any other. If anything, it has strengthened it. Honestly, when I first took a cursory glance of your work, this is the first thing that came to mind…

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

Although your findings have all the trappings of a CIA file, I've yet to see the point. Like justoneman, if your findings are factual, I now have greater respect for the the man via his bone fides; which was more or less a given in my book provided his affiliation and affection for David Wilcock.

I only questioned what your motive is and have insinuated nothing; although your intent is fairly obvious from your title-to discredit the man based on the preconceived notions of others within the groups you mention in your title. Hopefully others will not jump to conclusions about the man's intent based on past affiliations. As mentioned previously, he has admitted more than once that he has dabbled on the dark side only to head toward the light. Well done Drake! Polarity is a choice and he has chosen well.

I spent a decade doing conspiracy research and at the end my conclusion was "ok, I have all this info at my fingertips, now what?" And thus, I posit that question upon you. I know, I know, you'll likely take the stance that you are merely the messenger and if that is the case then so be it.

Best of luck seeking within the past, I for one only need to look to the future to see that in the end, conspiracy based info. including everything that you have presented will only make for good campfire stories for my grandchildren one day

I think you may be surprised by how much we agree on. I think you may have a point on the thread title with regards to preconceived notions. I will change that.

Please quit saying my intentions are obvious, because you obviously don't understand my viewpoints on Drake as I haven't explained them in the OP. You can look at my personal commentary about the matter here (in this thread) and else where. Feel free to search my recent posts.

Ps- I love the dramatic groundhog vid

[StarDust]

Posted by Vivek (here)
I think you may be surprised by how much we agree on. I think you may have a point on the thread title with regards to preconceived notions. I will change that.

Please quit saying my intentions are obvious, because you obviously don't understand my viewpoints on Drake as I haven't explained them in the OP. You can look at my personal commentary about the matter here (in this thread) and else where. Feel free to search my recent posts.

Fair enough. If I were to change the title to be more impartial and eliminate prejudgement, then it would simply be "Drake's identity revealed"; or something along those lines.

[Paul]

Posted by StarDust (here)
If I were to change the title to be more impartial and eliminate prejudgement, then it would simply be "Drake's identity revealed"; or something along those lines.

I just changed the thread title, from "Who DRAKE really is: the Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon, the Illuminati, and 2012", to "Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon", at the request of the original poster, Vivek. . He made the request to me prior to your post.

[KiwiElf]

EDIT: Deleted - done! Nice title!

[Avocadess]

Just a note (from http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...of-gods.html):

In the old Hebrew Bibles, all references to serpents are made by use of the word nahash (from the stem NHSH); but this usage does not relate to serpents in the way that we would know them - that is, as venomous snakes. It relates to serpents in their traditional capacity as bringers of wisdom and enlightenment, for the word nahash actually means 'to decipher' or 'to find out'.

Serpents, in one form or another, were always associated with wisdom and healing, and the Trees of Life and Knowledge are customarily identified with serpents.

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Being born in the Year of the Snake, I am very aware that snakes do not have the same connotations in the East that we in the West often have for them, such as "a snake in the grass." Very different meanings.

Although it is clear Drake is not wanting to advertise his last name it is also clear that learning his identity is not that difficult. In fact, a Facebook friend emailed me his name over a week ago from the research she did. I personally have chosen not to give his last name to people simply because I knew that he would prefer that.

All in all however, I find that his persona on the radio shows seems very open, including about himself and things he has been involved in, etc. I like his overall transparency. I want to remember to say a prayer for him and for all the good and brave people that are helping in this Mission to free the United States from its bitter yoke.

And I pray for change -- real change. Real, real, real, REAL change -- for the better of humanity.

The powers that were have lived off the rest of humanity like parasites. We no longer wish to remain their host...!

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Just a note (from http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...of-gods.html):

In the old Hebrew Bibles, all references to serpents are made by use of the word nahash (from the stem NHSH); but this usage does not relate to serpents in the way that we would know them - that is, as venomous snakes. It relates to serpents in their traditional capacity as bringers of wisdom and enlightenment, for the word nahash actually means 'to decipher' or 'to find out'.

From my research there are three meanings for Nachash and it depends on where the dots and tittles are placed. For instance in Genesis in the garden of Eden, the word is not Snake at all, but shining one. Shining one links back to the idea of Illumination and Satan mascarading as an Angel (Messenger) of Light. The really hard part is in understanding where the light is coming from, and is it really ultimately for our good or just to gain more control. Many people are stressed and dislike it when they are given hope based on a story and someone else comes along and shows the holes in the story. That's a lot of what I am seeing with Drake.

He has some pretty amazing writings about healing and such which most people I have associated with align their thoughts to as well. I am going to continue to dig and find out more about this particular Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon. There is some very interesting stuff on the Dragon bloodline which interestingly Constantine came from and the Catholic Church uses his apparent bestowing of his authority on them to carry out what they do based on that authority.

These are some sites I have been reading on and quite frankly I had to take a break since last night's searching in the Dragon bloodline as it just gets a bit much:

http://drakenberg.weebly.com/

I'm not a big fan of wiki, but there was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

This particular info was a lot to read, but well worth it:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...lordring07.htm

I took this quote as interesting:

* Drakenberg is the legally recognized name of the Nation State of the Dragon Peoples. Drakenberg was officially recognized by default in 1997, by one Western Government. The Dragons wanted to see whether they could get their old enemies to recognize the Kingdom of the Elves, they having spent 1000 years attempting to eradicate all trace of it from the public consciousness. The exercise was successful and Drakenberg - The Dragon Sovereignty - (Lothlorien, if you like) exists with all the powers of an incorporeal state of peoples as defined by the United Nations. Essentially therefore, being an Elf or a Dragon is a recognized nationality! This was a serious political move undertaken for serious environmental and social reasons. Enquiries in this regard concerning DNA tests should be directed to Dragoncourt.org.
(Dragoncourt.org link does not work)

The name changes, the history changes regarding the names was a lot to go through which I did find very interesting. Are some of us more "gifted" naturally and thus bloodlines matter and that's why the families were so careful? Then instead of being Kings and Queens who brought blessings and took care of their people, they became corrupted and desired to be worshipped and/or just keep the people down and as their servants. They have lost their right to lead because of their abusive ways. It is time for change, and it is coming.

This is the content page which was well worth the read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...l_lordring.htm

I see this sovereignty issue tied to the Dragon bloodline and thus it may be a big part of Drake's push as well.

[Vivek]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Just a note (from http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...of-gods.html):

In the old Hebrew Bibles, all references to serpents are made by use of the word nahash (from the stem NHSH); but this usage does not relate to serpents in the way that we would know them - that is, as venomous snakes. It relates to serpents in their traditional capacity as bringers of wisdom and enlightenment, for the word nahash actually means 'to decipher' or 'to find out'.

From my research there are three meanings for Nachash and it depends on where the dots and tittles are placed. For instance in Genesis in the garden of Eden, the word is not Snake at all, but shining one. Shining one links back to the idea of Illumination and Satan mascarading as an Angel (Messenger) of Light. The really hard part is in understanding where the light is coming from, and is it really ultimately for our good or just to gain more control. Many people are stressed and dislike it when they are given hope based on a story and someone else comes along and shows the holes in the story. That's a lot of what I am seeing with Drake.

He has some pretty amazing writings about healing and such which most people I have associated with align their thoughts to as well. I am going to continue to dig and find out more about this particular Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon. There is some very interesting stuff on the Dragon bloodline which interestingly Constantine came from and the Catholic Church uses his apparent bestowing of his authority on them to carry out what they do based on that authority.

These are some sites I have been reading on and quite frankly I had to take a break since last night's searching in the Dragon bloodline as it just gets a bit much:

http://drakenberg.weebly.com/

I'm not a big fan of wiki, but there was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

This particular info was a lot to read, but well worth it:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...lordring07.htm

I took this quote as interesting:

* Drakenberg is the legally recognized name of the Nation State of the Dragon Peoples. Drakenberg was officially recognized by default in 1997, by one Western Government. The Dragons wanted to see whether they could get their old enemies to recognize the Kingdom of the Elves, they having spent 1000 years attempting to eradicate all trace of it from the public consciousness. The exercise was successful and Drakenberg - The Dragon Sovereignty - (Lothlorien, if you like) exists with all the powers of an incorporeal state of peoples as defined by the United Nations. Essentially therefore, being an Elf or a Dragon is a recognized nationality! This was a serious political move undertaken for serious environmental and social reasons. Enquiries in this regard concerning DNA tests should be directed to Dragoncourt.org.
(Dragoncourt.org link does not work)

The name changes, the history changes regarding the names was a lot to go through which I did find very interesting. Are some of us more "gifted" naturally and thus bloodlines matter and that's why the families were so careful? Then instead of being Kings and Queens who brought blessings and took care of their people, they became corrupted and desired to be worshipped and/or just keep the people down and as their servants. They have lost their right to lead because of their abusive ways. It is time for change, and it is coming.

This is the content page which was well worth the read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...l_lordring.htm

I see this sovereignty issue tied to the Dragon bloodline and thus it may be a big part of Drake's push as well.

This being the Chinese year of the Dragon, 2012 being the year marking the entrance to the age of Aquarius, dragon sovereignty, the perennial philosophies of the ORIGINAL Illuminati, the Nahash (nachach), reptilians/archons, bloodlines/DNA... All of these things are important I think when considering all of this.

Who are we really fighting in this whole Drake thing, and who are we really fighting for?

[justoneman]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
Just a note (from http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/...of-gods.html):

In the old Hebrew Bibles, all references to serpents are made by use of the word nahash (from the stem NHSH); but this usage does not relate to serpents in the way that we would know them - that is, as venomous snakes. It relates to serpents in their traditional capacity as bringers of wisdom and enlightenment, for the word nahash actually means 'to decipher' or 'to find out'.

From my research there are three meanings for Nachash and it depends on where the dots and tittles are placed. For instance in Genesis in the garden of Eden, the word is not Snake at all, but shining one. Shining one links back to the idea of Illumination and Satan mascarading as an Angel (Messenger) of Light. The really hard part is in understanding where the light is coming from, and is it really ultimately for our good or just to gain more control. Many people are stressed and dislike it when they are given hope based on a story and someone else comes along and shows the holes in the story. That's a lot of what I am seeing with Drake.

He has some pretty amazing writings about healing and such which most people I have associated with align their thoughts to as well. I am going to continue to dig and find out more about this particular Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon. There is some very interesting stuff on the Dragon bloodline which interestingly Constantine came from and the Catholic Church uses his apparent bestowing of his authority on them to carry out what they do based on that authority.

These are some sites I have been reading on and quite frankly I had to take a break since last night's searching in the Dragon bloodline as it just gets a bit much:

http://drakenberg.weebly.com/

I'm not a big fan of wiki, but there was this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

This particular info was a lot to read, but well worth it:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...lordring07.htm

I took this quote as interesting:

* Drakenberg is the legally recognized name of the Nation State of the Dragon Peoples. Drakenberg was officially recognized by default in 1997, by one Western Government. The Dragons wanted to see whether they could get their old enemies to recognize the Kingdom of the Elves, they having spent 1000 years attempting to eradicate all trace of it from the public consciousness. The exercise was successful and Drakenberg - The Dragon Sovereignty - (Lothlorien, if you like) exists with all the powers of an incorporeal state of peoples as defined by the United Nations. Essentially therefore, being an Elf or a Dragon is a recognized nationality! This was a serious political move undertaken for serious environmental and social reasons. Enquiries in this regard concerning DNA tests should be directed to Dragoncourt.org.
(Dragoncourt.org link does not work)

The name changes, the history changes regarding the names was a lot to go through which I did find very interesting. Are some of us more "gifted" naturally and thus bloodlines matter and that's why the families were so careful? Then instead of being Kings and Queens who brought blessings and took care of their people, they became corrupted and desired to be worshipped and/or just keep the people down and as their servants. They have lost their right to lead because of their abusive ways. It is time for change, and it is coming.

This is the content page which was well worth the read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...l_lordring.htm

I see this sovereignty issue tied to the Dragon bloodline and thus it may be a big part of Drake's push as well.

Thank You Unified Serenity for your further research.

Unless the researcher has really looked deep, they would likely never discover there are some not so secret, secret societies that appear to be benevolent. I have direct experience with one though I am not a member. In that experience I was introduced to the society where an interesting fellow named Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg plays a significant roll. Here is a biography.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...goncourt_a.htm

Nick wrote an e-book in the mid 80s and it later became a published book - you can still read the original e-book, here is the link. This book made more impact upon me that any book I have ever read.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/dr...goncourt02.htm

Note: this material goes pretty deep for most laymen though is basic material for a true occultist. I found the material fascinating but have always had difficulty with the blood line aspect of it as most of us likely would.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...goncourt04.htm

If the societies in which Drake has been involved (if he has been involved) are of the nature of the societies Nick de Vere has been involved, then I, personally have no issue regarding this association. In fact, I am further impressed.

But one has to do quite a bit of study here to be able to draw any conclusions as to thumbs up or thumbs down.

I can assure you that if you do spend the time to study this area, study a great deal of the occult (which does not mean you need to practice black or any other magic, conjure spirits, any of that stuff) you may be surprised what parts of your own spirituality you might awaken to.

I do not suggest anyone do this unless they are a very well grounded individual to begin with.

Anyways, it would be interesting if Drake had current and/or past affiliations.

By the way, I recently heard a web broadcast where Nick de Vere stated he was a Gnostic Christian. That is not a religion by the way - more of a statement of your being.

[justoneman]

Recalling Nick de Vere and his material - He suggests that the current "royalty" is a false royalty and does not possess the true "dragon blood" that royalty must possess (at least they do not possess the higher percentages) - Nick also states that the ancient dragon-priest queens/kings were appreciated for their gifts which could only be possessed by those of the purest dragon blood. Civilizations that existed with these beliefs treated the dragon-priest queens/kings with great respect because of their wisdom. He uses several terms to refer to these dragon queens and kings such as faeries, vampires, and other terms. He goes into etymology in explaining how and where these terms came about. I recall one thing he said, "A queen can be a true queen without a king but a king can never be a true king without a queen." My intuition agrees with that assertion. I am just throwing stuff out there as it returns to my memory...
justoneman

[Unified Serenity]

I am interested in the dragon peoples being recognized, but I could not find anymore information on that. As a direct descendent myself of a Dragon King, I have always found this topic of interest, but it's not easy to dig much up on it.

[modwiz]

Very interesting. Dragons emerging.

Very misunderstood, the dragons are. No matter what definition you apply.

I like Nicholas. I have said before, Golden Ages had golden leaders.

[justoneman]

First - if there is anything to "dragon blood" and I can't say either way as it is difficult for me to accept that blood %s (dragon blood vs non dragon blood) "should" make a difference, I have studied the matter closely. EDIT - it is not difficult for me to accept, I just fear it would be difficult for many folks to consider... de Vere has actually isolated specific genes which he states you can be tested for that determines if you have dragon blood. He asserts that having this blood gives one powers we group into 6th senses such as clairvoyance, telepathy, clairaudience, precognition and more. The more dragon blood one possess, the greater degree one has the ability to bring forth these talents. You can see where this leads. It is the foundation of why bloodline is so important to royalty and others involved in many of these secret societies.

Nick claims (and I am not stating if I buy it or not) that he is a direct descendant of the person who we now refer to as Jesus Christ (has genealogical charts that he presents in his books) and that is part of the basis for his claims that current royalty (at least as far as the UK goes) is not the true royalty (although Harry may actually have bloodline claims considering his father may have been James Hewitt instead of Prince Phillip). This may be why we got info from Fulford that some insiders would accept Harry as the next King.

You can begin to see how complicated all this gets. Anyway, it is difficult with my conditioning to imagine that there might be something to bloodline. Most of us would likely have similar feelings. But Nick's books are compelling and I would rate Nick de Vere as quite an occult historian, etymologist and occultist in general. From my understanding, he has quite a bit of respect from many within the European occult societies and is generally a pain in the ass to most of the elite.

[Ishtar]

Wow!! Way-to-go due diligence, Vivek! I take my hat off to you.

The bottom line is, though, that Drake told us that he wasn't associated with any other group and was just working with that small group of people at Freedom Reigns. He stated categorically that he wasn't a part of any Dragon-related group on the last radio broadcast and because when first asked that question, his answer threw up a load of pink smoke, the questioner had to come back in on another phone line to ask the question again, and finally Drake said 'No'. So he lied ... what else has he lied about?

For those who would like a quick entree into what it means to be a member of a dragon society ~

All the dragon societies came out of the Serpent Cults which were rife across the civilised world during pre-Christian times. The serpent represented wisdom and so initiates would undergo secret (occult) teachings and variations of these continued right up to the Mystery Teachings in Greece before those practises were wiped out by Justinian. The evidence left from it was reported on by various renown Greek and Roman historians, like Diodorus Siculus, Pliny and Thucydides.

There was a 19th century Freemason and Rosicrucian called Hargrave Jennings who pulled together the Greek and Roman historians accounts of their evidence for it worldwide in his book published in 1889: Ophiolatreia: An Account of the Rites and Mysteries Connected with the Origin, Rise, and Development of Serpent Worship.

And I have written an article tracing the history of the Serpent Cults here

[modwiz]

Posted by justoneman (here)
First - if there is anything to "dragon blood" and I can't say either way as it is difficult for me to accept that blood %s (dragon blood vs non dragon blood) "should" make a difference, I have studied the matter closely. de Vere has actually isolated specific genes which he states you can be tested for that determines if you have dragon blood. He asserts that having this blood gives one powers we group into 6th senses such as clairvoyance, telepathy, clairaudience, precognition and more. The more dragon blood one possess, the greater degree one is has the ability to bring forth these talents. You can see where this leads. It is the foundation of why bloodline is so important to royalty and others involved in many of these secret societies.

Nick claims (and I am not stating if I buy it or not) that he is a direct descendant of the person who we now refer to as Jesus Christ (has genealogical charts that he presents in his books) and that is part of the basis for his claims that current royalty (at least as far as the UK goes) is not the true royalty (although Harry may actually have bloodline claims considering his father may have been James Hewitt instead of Prince Phillip). This may be why we got info from Fulford that some insiders would accept harry as the next King.

You can begin to see how complicated all this gets. Anyway, it is difficult with my conditioning to imagine that there might be something to bloodline. Most of us would likely have similar feelings. But Nick's books are compelling and I would rate Nick de Vere as quite an occult historian, etymologist and occultist in general. From my understanding, he has quite a bit of respect from many within the European occult societies and is generally a pain in the ass to most of the elite.

He (Nicholas de Vere) is a bit grandiose, IMO, but I can handle it. Constantine's mother was a supposed descendant of the Jesus family. It is one of reasons he did what he did. He saw himself a rightful heir to the Church through his mother. I am surprised he let Apostolic succession pass at the Council of Nicea. This allowed for non family members to be heads of the church. It is exactly this difference in succession, bloodline or not, that split the Muslims. The Shia only allow Imams who are descendants of Mohammed's(pbuh). The Sunni, allow for an apostolic succession. Yes, doctrinal issues have bifurcated from the split, but it is the split that created them.

There is a sense of service to the people with the true, and sane, Dragons. They (the people) are your responsibility, not your property.

[Vivek]

Posted by justoneman (here)
First - if there is anything to "dragon blood" and I can't say either way as it is difficult for me to accept that blood %s (dragon blood vs non dragon blood) "should" make a difference, I have studied the matter closely. EDIT - it is not difficult for me to accept, I just fear it would be difficult for many folks to consider... de Vere has actually isolated specific genes which he states you can be tested for that determines if you have dragon blood. He asserts that having this blood gives one powers we group into 6th senses such as clairvoyance, telepathy, clairaudience, precognition and more. The more dragon blood one possess, the greater degree one has the ability to bring forth these talents. You can see where this leads. It is the foundation of why bloodline is so important to royalty and others involved in many of these secret societies.

Nick claims (and I am not stating if I buy it or not) that he is a direct descendant of the person who we now refer to as Jesus Christ (has genealogical charts that he presents in his books) and that is part of the basis for his claims that current royalty (at least as far as the UK goes) is not the true royalty (although Harry may actually have bloodline claims considering his father may have been James Hewitt instead of Prince Phillip). This may be why we got info from Fulford that some insiders would accept Harry as the next King.

You can begin to see how complicated all this gets. Anyway, it is difficult with my conditioning to imagine that there might be something to bloodline. Most of us would likely have similar feelings. But Nick's books are compelling and I would rate Nick de Vere as quite an occult historian, etymologist and occultist in general. From my understanding, he has quite a bit of respect from many within the European occult societies and is generally a pain in the ass to most of the elite.

And royalty ---> kingship ---> cainship ---> back to Cain and Abel, reptilian/dragon/nahash bloodlines... Enki and Enlil... I can't remember where I picked that up but I too have read of de Vere... And so far thanks to you and US this thread is going in the right direction (at least how I had hoped).

There are a lot of connections to be made and sorted out. I can't believe I'm still awake! I can't seem to get to sleep my mind is racing.

EDIT: I'd like to add Ishtar and modwiz to that list too, and I know there are plenty of others at PA who could be very helpful. I just wanna thank y'all for even taking a look at this.

Also, from what I've read about these Dragon Courts/orders is that initiates/members loyalty is to that brotherhood ABOVE ALL ELSE.

In the same vein though I have read what seemed like good things about some of them and bad things.

[justoneman]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Very interesting. Dragons emerging.

Very misunderstood, the dragons are. No matter what definition you apply.

I like Nicholas. I have said before, Golden Ages had golden leaders.

Modwiz - what economy with words! Golden Ages had golden leaders - too bad so many folk can't see the truth in that - especially when we are supposed to be at the brink of a new golden age.

Yes... Nick is a cool dude and he ain't afraid to piss off the PTB/Ws.

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Posted by modwiz (here)
Their is a sense of service to the people with the true, and sane, Dragons. They (the people) are your responsibility, not your property.

Bingo! nailed it

[justoneman]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Wow!! Way-to-go due diligence, Vivek! I take my hat off to you.

The bottom line is, though, that Drake told us that he wasn't associated with any other group and was just working with that small group of people at Freedom Reigns.

Ishtar, I love ya but gotta jump in here. We all are in the school of life, some actually graduate. Some of us at some point go solo.

[Ishtar]

For me to recognise someone as a golden leader, they would have to speak the truth.

Golden ages represent a state of consciousness.. not a state of government, although countless groups in the past have used the stories in the ancient myths to back their revolutions. So this won't be the first to claim that God is on their side. However, this god requires much blood to be spilt...

With God On Our Side

Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And the land that I live in
Has God on it's side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on it's side.

The Spanish-American
War had it's day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns on their hands
And God on their side.

The First World War, boys
It came and it went
The reason for fighting
I never did get
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And then we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.


Bob Dylan

[modwiz]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Wow!! Way-to-go due diligence, Vivek! I take my hat off to you.

The bottom line is, though, that Drake told us that he wasn't associated with any other group and was just working with that small group of people at Freedom Reigns.

Ishtar, I love ya but gotta jump in here. We all are in the school of life, some actually graduate. Some of us at some point go solo.

Then there are some that go so low.

[Ishtar]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Wow!! Way-to-go due diligence, Vivek! I take my hat off to you.

The bottom line is, though, that Drake told us that he wasn't associated with any other group and was just working with that small group of people at Freedom Reigns. However, he stated categorically that he wasn't a part of any Dragon-related group on the last radio broadcast and because when first asked that question, his answer threw up a load of pink smoke, the questioner had to come back in on another phone line to ask the question again, and finally Drake said 'No'. So he lied ... what else has he lied about?

Ishtar, I love ya but gotta jump in here. We all are in the school of life, some actually graduate. Some of us at some point go solo.

Sorry justoneman, probably me being thick, but I don't get your point. I was just saying how this is an example of Drake lying .. and this of a piece with a post I wrote in the other thread about how I think that truth is vital to the outcome of any operation from the get-go ...don't get the connection with school of life or going solo ... could you try and explain it again?