The Game of the True Immortals on this Planet

[doodah]

Haven't you ever wondered why the "gods who came down from the sky" never made robots? I mean, machine slaves? Nowhere in any of our myths is there is anything about machine slaves.

Enki, Enlil, Ninhersag, all that Anunnaki bunch, tweaked hominid DNA to create biological slaves - us - the human race. This baffles me. Wouldn't manufactured robots be more reliable? Biologicals get tired, get sick, need food, need sleep, and all die. All biologicals are helpless infants for a number of years before they can be put to work. Then they must be trained. Then they all age and die and the knowledge must be taught again to the next generation of infants. Some wake up and become rebellious, causing trouble for "the gods". Why didn't they just make robots?

Here we are, 21st century humans, worrying that some machine AI on the moon or somewhere else might be controlling all of the biologicals on this planet - us - the human race. Human-looking robots are now being made in Japan. The classic Sci-Fi story is that robots or androids become awake and take over the universe from the biologicals. This is not a very good myth to be writing about our future, I don't think! But once again, that myth says that humans do not recognize their god-powers and do not evolve; the myth of the unawakened human just continues in another form.

[GoodeTXSG]

Biologicaly engineered Robots. OR "Danger Mr. Robinson"... nuts n bolts robots?


kind of old school tech for advanced beings would it not?

[wynderer]

Posted by doodah (here)
Haven't you ever wondered why the "gods who came down from the sky" never made robots? I mean, machine slaves? Nowhere in any of our myths is there is anything about machine slaves.

Enki, Enlil, Ninhersag, all that Anunnaki bunch, tweaked hominid DNA to create biological slaves - us - the human race. This baffles me. Wouldn't manufactured robots be more reliable? Biologicals get tired, get sick, need food, need sleep, and all die. All biologicals are helpless infants for a number of years before they can be put to work. Then they must be trained. Then they all age and die and the knowledge must be taught again to the next generation of infants. Some wake up and become rebellious, causing trouble for "the gods". Why didn't they just make robots?

Here we are, 21st century humans, worrying that some machine AI on the moon or somewhere else might be controlling all of the biologicals on this planet - us - the human race. Human-looking robots are now being made in Japan. The classic Sci-Fi story is that robots or androids become awake and take over the universe from the biologicals. This is not a very good myth to be writing about our future, I don't think! But once again, that myth says that humans do not recognize their god-powers and do not evolve; the myth of the unawakened human just continues in another form.

check out James Casbolt's IBIS material on the Camelot site

[seigiarchon]

Posted by donk (here)
It's nice to have lofty goals and imagine ascending to higher dimensions and whatnot, but as a 3D being incapable of not even being able to see or even sense the entities that share my house (that my girl and her daughters can see when they are in the room with us), let alone contact higher dimensional ones--the ideas are supersweet, but I know that the only way I'll ever get anywhere, the only thing I can really do--is to live the sh!t out of every day as much as I can, absorb and share as much love and knowledge as I possibly can...open to anything.

I'd love to know what the immortals or TPTB or extradimensional beings are thinking and doing why...but isn't it a little arrogant to assign motives and feelings to even other 3D beings--let alone those of higher dimension?

What you know is pretty limited..

you have the typical viewpoint of an indoctrinated prisoner..

"oh I am imprisoned so i will just live out the rest of my jail sentence"..

[seigiarchon]

Posted by doodah (here)
Haven't you ever wondered why the "gods who came down from the sky" never made robots? I mean, machine slaves? Nowhere in any of our myths is there is anything about machine slaves.

Enki, Enlil, Ninhersag, all that Anunnaki bunch, tweaked hominid DNA to create biological slaves - us - the human race. This baffles me. Wouldn't manufactured robots be more reliable? Biologicals get tired, get sick, need food, need sleep, and all die. All biologicals are helpless infants for a number of years before they can be put to work. Then they must be trained. Then they all age and die and the knowledge must be taught again to the next generation of infants. Some wake up and become rebellious, causing trouble for "the gods". Why didn't they just make robots?

Here we are, 21st century humans, worrying that some machine AI on the moon or somewhere else might be controlling all of the biologicals on this planet - us - the human race. Human-looking robots are now being made in Japan. The classic Sci-Fi story is that robots or androids become awake and take over the universe from the biologicals. This is not a very good myth to be writing about our future, I don't think! But once again, that myth says that humans do not recognize their god-powers and do not evolve; the myth of the unawakened human just continues in another form.

Because they do not need robots..

They need living batteries or generators of energies through humans' emotions and other everyday activities..

The time has come I think for both the "good" and "bad" immortals to be destroyed..

The whole system on earth must be completely obliterated immediately so that humanity can free themselves from samsara in an one-shot attempt..

[doodah]

To GoodeTXSG: Some of those bio-machine UFOs seem pretty advanced, a combination of biological and machine. I don't know that I was speaking strictly of nuts and bolts machinery-type robots. I meant programmed mechanical or bio-mechanical constructs that don't break down, don't get tired, don't get sick, don't die, don't forget, and don't go insane.

Even though humans are slaves, we are not robots in the sense I just described -- we have unprogrammed thoughts, we have imagination, we dream, and we also seem to have this whole spiritual component that is latent and quite unpredictable. All of this makes us pretty unreliable slaves, I would think, unreliable and in many cases, unwilling. In today's world they keep us in line by threatening to kill us or our families, put us in jail, or punish us in some other way. Even the human slaves who are more willing, those who are controlled by reward - sex, money, prestige, power - are kept in line by threat of some kind. All human slaves are coerced. I don't think you have to coerce robots, you just program them and off they go. It seems like that would have been much simpler, so why didn't these "gods" do that?

To seigiarchon: I see that this robot question is moot... they need our mechanical physical bodies to do the work (dig the gold?), and also this energetic component you mention. They are parasites? Energy syphons? Ugh. What a universe.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by doodah (here)
To GoodeTXSG: Some of those bio-machine UFOs seem pretty advanced, a combination of biological and machine. I don't know that I was speaking strictly of nuts and bolts machinery-type robots. I meant programmed mechanical or bio-mechanical constructs that don't break down, don't get tired, don't get sick, don't die, don't forget, and don't go insane.

Even though humans are slaves, we are not robots in the sense I just described -- we have unprogrammed thoughts, we have imagination, we dream, and we also seem to have this whole spiritual component that is latent and quite unpredictable. All of this makes us pretty unreliable slaves, I would think, unreliable and in many cases, unwilling. In today's world they keep us in line by threatening to kill us or our families, put us in jail, or punish us in some other way. Even the human slaves who are more willing, those who are controlled by reward - sex, money, prestige, power - are kept in line by threat of some kind. All human slaves are coerced. I don't think you have to coerce robots, you just program them and off they go. It seems like that would have been much simpler, so why didn't these "gods" do that?

To seigiarchon: I see that this robot question is moot... they need our mechanical physical bodies to do the work (dig the gold?), and also this energetic component you mention. They are parasites? Energy syphons? Ugh. What a universe.

Yes they are energy parasites..

But the energy which they suck from us is buried deep in our subconscious so this is why we don't even know this leeching most of the time..

Carlos Castaneda once wrote a work on higher dimensional beings leeching the energies off humans..

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

Posted by donk (here)
It's nice to have lofty goals and imagine ascending to higher dimensions and whatnot, but as a 3D being incapable of not even being able to see or even sense the entities that share my house (that my girl and her daughters can see when they are in the room with us), let alone contact higher dimensional ones--the ideas are supersweet, but I know that the only way I'll ever get anywhere, the only thing I can really do--is to live the sh!t out of every day as much as I can, absorb and share as much love and knowledge as I possibly can...open to anything.

I'd love to know what the immortals or TPTB or extradimensional beings are thinking and doing why...but isn't it a little arrogant to assign motives and feelings to even other 3D beings--let alone those of higher dimension?

What you know is pretty limited..

you have the typical viewpoint of an indoctrinated prisoner..

"oh I am imprisoned so i will just live out the rest of my jail sentence"..

Wow “Seigiarchon”, what a display of character and limited knowledge and perception you have displayed. Actually you just showed a perfect example of a post I made on another thread... Putting down people is not really how things are done on this site. The other member and the Moderators do not really put up with it much.

The double put down theory goes like this, SOME Peope put down others to feel superior, OR they put down themselves to have other people build them up. pasted below is the complete post, I think the part I am talking about will stick out for you;

ORIGINAL THREAD - Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I am not sure what to make of this information about "Drake" or what to make of the man himself...

There are a lot of "DRAKE" names popping up all over the place... and this is a common tactic used to discredit. I am not saying the Drake from the interview is a Positive or Negative person, just sharing tactics of a former counter Intel "Student".

Other tactics would also include (If I found his full name and personal info w/is not hard) would "Create Memberships" on Kiddie Porn or other off putting sites, membership at controversial groups or posting on their forums with the real personal info, planting info on his computers or in his Home/Car and then sending the police with search warrants out to greet him etc...

Dis-info and Counter Intel is the SECOND oldest profession (As they like to say) and is a well developed art. You cannot really ever KNOW the facts of ANYTHING you read for sure unless you see it... then if you see it you can only trust so much of what your eyes funnel into your brain and how it is then assimilated.

Even though this is a lot of info coming out, it is only the tip top of the ice berg. I have a feeling when all of this does come about people are going to be popping Xanax like tic tacs.

EDIT: You are also probably aware that these types of agents ARE on these sites and forums all day every day and are also among the people that post in these types of blogs... and NO I am not one of them...
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Such fertile and malleable minds we have,

Plant a seed of revelation or a seed of doubt; add a little challenge to ones Ego or sacred beliefs and then it grows around our mind like a "Chia Pet". We will then blindly defend it with as clever of an argument as we can, just to "One Up" the next person and display our superior "Intelligence and Insight".
The easiest targets are the ones that consider themselves enlightened/evolved and that only the simple minded are susceptible to such tactics. That is what makes people so incredibly easy to control and manipulate. It amazes those who are master manipulators to the point that they consider it child’s play.
Thus I am now differing to my earlier post about Dis-Information and Counter Intelligence.

Please try to be a little more respectful to those whose opinions differ from yours... Debate is healthy. I hope the MOD's do not mind me posting this. People feel vulnerable when they post some of the info in these threads and need support and encouragement and not disparagement unless they try to usurp or step on the free will or identity of others... I do not mean to be rude.

[seigiarchon]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

Posted by donk (here)
It's nice to have lofty goals and imagine ascending to higher dimensions and whatnot, but as a 3D being incapable of not even being able to see or even sense the entities that share my house (that my girl and her daughters can see when they are in the room with us), let alone contact higher dimensional ones--the ideas are supersweet, but I know that the only way I'll ever get anywhere, the only thing I can really do--is to live the sh!t out of every day as much as I can, absorb and share as much love and knowledge as I possibly can...open to anything.

I'd love to know what the immortals or TPTB or extradimensional beings are thinking and doing why...but isn't it a little arrogant to assign motives and feelings to even other 3D beings--let alone those of higher dimension?

What you know is pretty limited..

you have the typical viewpoint of an indoctrinated prisoner..

"oh I am imprisoned so i will just live out the rest of my jail sentence"..

Wow “Seigiarchon”, what a display of character and limited knowledge and perception you have displayed. Actually you just showed a perfect example of a post I made on another thread... Putting down people is not really how things are done on this site. The other member and the Moderators do not really put up with it much.

The double put down theory goes like this, SOME Peope put down others to feel superior, OR they put down themselves to have other people build them up. pasted below is the complete post, I think the part I am talking about will stick out for you;

ORIGINAL THREAD - Who is DRAKE: The Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I am not sure what to make of this information about "Drake" or what to make of the man himself...

There are a lot of "DRAKE" names popping up all over the place... and this is a common tactic used to discredit. I am not saying the Drake from the interview is a Positive or Negative person, just sharing tactics of a former counter Intel "Student".

Other tactics would also include (If I found his full name and personal info w/is not hard) would "Create Memberships" on Kiddie Porn or other off putting sites, membership at controversial groups or posting on their forums with the real personal info, planting info on his computers or in his Home/Car and then sending the police with search warrants out to greet him etc...

Dis-info and Counter Intel is the SECOND oldest profession (As they like to say) and is a well developed art. You cannot really ever KNOW the facts of ANYTHING you read for sure unless you see it... then if you see it you can only trust so much of what your eyes funnel into your brain and how it is then assimilated.

Even though this is a lot of info coming out, it is only the tip top of the ice berg. I have a feeling when all of this does come about people are going to be popping Xanax like tic tacs.

EDIT: You are also probably aware that these types of agents ARE on these sites and forums all day every day and are also among the people that post in these types of blogs... and NO I am not one of them...
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Such fertile and malleable minds we have,

Plant a seed of revelation or a seed of doubt; add a little challenge to ones Ego or sacred beliefs and then it grows around our mind like a "Chia Pet". We will then blindly defend it with as clever of an argument as we can, just to "One Up" the next person and display our superior "Intelligence and Insight".
The easiest targets are the ones that consider themselves enlightened/evolved and that only the simple minded are susceptible to such tactics. That is what makes people so incredibly easy to control and manipulate. It amazes those who are master manipulators to the point that they consider it child’s play.
Thus I am now differing to my earlier post about Dis-Information and Counter Intelligence.

Please try to be a little more respectful to those who's opinions differ from yours...

what i know is not openly found on the net..

donk's viewpoint on just putting up with all the bs and living it out day by day smacks of a defeatist attitude..

now i am not advising anyone to go berserk and gun down anyone on the streets just to cause chaos in the system..

cos that would not help anyone overthrow the psychic and mental controls which the higher beings have over us.. if anything, going berserk and gunning down people will only give the immortals more ammunition to put up more draconian laws..

but if you think I am going to sit around like how Donk recommends and let the higher beings take control of my life, you have another thought coming..

what donk should be doing is to think about how to resist the mental and psychic controls which the higher beings have over him..

it is a war and the war is inside our heads for our souls for our minds and not out there on the streets..

with that said, if i can't win & defend my own castle, i will rather destroy my own castle than to let the enemy use it..

[Kano]

Seigiarchon,

Thanks for the passion you have put into this thread.

How it is that TPTB are able to horde and control so much over such great lengths of time has always been a huge question and area of interest for me. I agree that there is something us common folk are not privy to that is allowing them to maintain their world plans. I also agree that there is a spiritual aspect to what it is they are doing to keep and guide this control, i.e. psychic vampirism. Could it also be a possibility that these select few people have access to technologies such as Looking Glass or actual Time Travel vehicles which allows them to essentially pop in and out of time to "right the ship" as it benefits them? Rather than actually being a 3D being that lives infinitely, it may just appear that way because of these technologies. Remove the technology from their control and perhaps the illusion of immortality dissolves. Consequently, attaining spiritual "enlightenment" through technology for dominance, which permeates multiple dimensions, is the cornerstone of the Luciferian philosophy.

Kano

[wynderer]

i think i already pointed out that there are no 'immortals' except the Creator -- just as there are no 'gods' --

what i thought/felt about Donk's
but I know that the only way I'll ever get anywhere, the only thing I can really do--is to live the sh!t out of every day as much as I can, absorb and share as much love and knowledge as I possibly can...open to anything.

was 'Here is the best of the Earth Human spirit, spoken from the heart w/passion'

i find it interesting that someone who started a thread promoting the idea that there are immortal Humans amongst us attacks a very Human outpouring of the heart

& c'mon -- let's get real here -- do you really think it's Humans running this planet? & then you try to make the Humans feel guilty, that it's their fault that their 3rd eyes are totally shut down? & if they just close their eyes & click their heels together 3 times & visualize really really hard, the Matrix will just disappear?

edit -- i am nowhere near the immortal dimension/[non-dimension] myself so can't really say that there are no immortal beings-- i have been blessed to have had 3 personal visits from Jesus , & the Power [not a good idea to make him angry] & gentle tender Love -- maybe that is found only in the immortal eternal infinite non-dimension -- i'll let you know when i get there

[GoodeTXSG]

Good deal, I sense a lot of anger and frustration in your writtings but I hear where you are coming from. Hardly anyone agre's on to many topics on this site, they are just usually a lot less hostile or aggressive.

[seigiarchon]

Here come the diversionary attacks and troll-baits trying to degrade this thread into an all-out troll war and get it shut down.

To all those who wanna play to the tune of the mainstream media's denial of our multi-dimensional reality.. kindly stay out of this thread and start another thread elsewhere about how there are no "gods" controlling us ..

in other words, please stop trolling this thread with troll-baits .. thank you..

no wonder pie and others have left avalon..

to wynder, the NWO'S advantages are not only technological.. their powers are mainly spiritual and psychic..

because it is only when one has the spiritual power to tap into the askashi records then does one has the ability to download technological blueprints from future timelines and advanced ufo races..

this is why the NWO keep the masses spiritually dumbed down.. without spiritual powers, how is one gonna bring ufo technologies into existence?

[wynderer]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
.. without spiritual powers, how is one gonna bring ufo technologies into existence?

seems to me we're doing a great job -- using all kinds of ET technology to do all kinds of un-spiritual things -- a lot of the technology the sell-out Humans traded their race for is being used for weapons & mind control stuff

PS -- my last post on this thread

[Space_Ace]

How do we know the elites are immortal? Let me make some good points.

1. Why are most elites old men rather than young?
2. Is it even possible to have physical immortality below 4d?
3. We are immortal spirits having a human experience.
4. Even if old age can be cured, you can still die many other ways.
5. Speaking of robots, they can do all the manual labor for us while we enjoy life.

[CD7]

Wow....this thread has pieces of many things crossing my mind! It's like me in multidimensional form! Lol...well peeps I won't continue on with pieces of what has already been pondered here. May those of us who are trying to grasp the whole picture have our moment :-)

Much love to u all....<3. <3. <3

[Kindred]

OP "I just had official confirmation of my suspicions about the nature of this reality, this prison planet which we live in."

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
What an interesting idea. What is your official confirmation?

Yes... MB has asked an important question. Please share this 'confirmation', if you would be so kind. That way, more people can be both enlightened, and be able to come to their own conclusions.

I do hope that you see the wisdom in sharing knowledge, rather than withholding it, thus allowing others to use their Free Will in discerning, for themselves, the nature and veracity of this information.

In Unity and Peace

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Space_Ace (here)
How do we know the elites are immortal? Let me make some good points.

1. Why are most elites old men rather than young?
2. Is it even possible to have physical immortality below 4d?
3. We are immortal spirits having a human experience.
4. Even if old age can be cured, you can still die many other ways.
5. Speaking of robots, they can do all the manual labor for us while we enjoy life.

what makes you so sure the "elites" are the people who show their faces in public and on tv?

and how do you know the ones on tv aren't clones or using make-up to disguise their true age?

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Posted by Kindred (here)
OP "I just had official confirmation of my suspicions about the nature of this reality, this prison planet which we live in."

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
What an interesting idea. What is your official confirmation?

Yes... MB has asked an important question. Please share this 'confirmation', if you would be so kind. That way, more people can be both enlightened, and be able to come to their own conclusions.

I do hope that you see the wisdom in sharing knowledge, rather than withholding it, thus allowing others to use their Free Will in discerning, for themselves, the nature and veracity of this information.

In Unity and Peace

I have had experiences in a number of countries..

It is only by CROSS-REFERENCING the official confirmation with my own personal experiences then do I finally come up with this big picture..

so it is not that I do not wanna give people the source of my official confirmation..

even if I do tell you all I know, you wouldn't believe it unless you experience things yourself..

if you can't even believe the words in my post, then what makes you think you will believe anything in that "official" confirmation of mine?

and how do i know you are not an agent sent by the immortals after me? hrmph?

If I am a selfish person, I would not even have bothered starting this thread to let the lost souls in here.. the ones who are still searching for meaning to their lives.. what the game is truly all about..

If a searcher, after reading this thread, is still clueless about taking the next step up the evolutionary ladder, then it would be his or her bad karma holding him or her back and it has nothing at all to do with me..

I am not a savior.. just a messenger..

[Kindred]

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

I have had experiences in a number of countries..

It is only by CROSS-REFERENCING the official confirmation with my own personal experiences then do I finally come up with this big picture..

so it is not that I do not wanna give people the source of my official confirmation..

even if I do tell you all I know, you wouldn't believe it unless you experience things yourself..

if you can't even believe the words in my post, then what makes you think you will believe anything in that "official" confirmation of mine?

and how do i know you are not an agent sent by the immortals after me? hrmph?

If I am a selfish person, I would not even have bothered starting this thread to let the lost souls in here.. the ones who are still searching for meaning to their lives.. what the game is truly all about..

If a searcher, after reading this thread, is still clueless about taking the next step up the evolutionary ladder, then it would be his or her bad karma holding him or her back and it has nothing at all to do with me..

I am not a savior.. just a messenger..

I have not discounted your premises or suggestions in any way, nor will I try to tell you what to think or believe. Each of us has unique life experiences that shape our thinking and reactions.

I do feel you are being a bit too ambiguous as to your 'confirmation', particularly since most everyone here has come to this site specifically to find unique answers to the many questions they have about our world, and the discordance that has manifested here.

To suggest that those here are 'clueless', and "can't handle the truth" (my inference) seems a bit egotistical and condescending. For myself, I can assure you, I most certainly can 'handle' this knowledge, and am most curious as to the true reason for your lack of transparency. I should also add that I'm most curious as to the nature of this confirmation.

I particularly find it interesting that you are willing to expend Considerable effort to detail your suspicions and inferences about various attributes of these Immortals, but cannot find the time or interest to at least outline your experiences that led you to your suspicions, and the source(s) of your confirmation.

And, to suggest that I may be 'one of them'... well, that's just laughable.

Here's my first post on PA, FWIW. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...308#post123308

Please feel free to peruse my postings - I have nothing to hide, and wish you to know that I am as dedicated to Free Will, Love of All, and the Ascension of Humankind, as is Source.

No disrespect, but without adequate citations, everything is just speculation and, at worst, disinformation, (IMO).

In Unity and Peace

[seigiarchon]

Posted by Kindred (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)

I have had experiences in a number of countries..

It is only by CROSS-REFERENCING the official confirmation with my own personal experiences then do I finally come up with this big picture..

so it is not that I do not wanna give people the source of my official confirmation..

even if I do tell you all I know, you wouldn't believe it unless you experience things yourself..

if you can't even believe the words in my post, then what makes you think you will believe anything in that "official" confirmation of mine?

and how do i know you are not an agent sent by the immortals after me? hrmph?

If I am a selfish person, I would not even have bothered starting this thread to let the lost souls in here.. the ones who are still searching for meaning to their lives.. what the game is truly all about..

If a searcher, after reading this thread, is still clueless about taking the next step up the evolutionary ladder, then it would be his or her bad karma holding him or her back and it has nothing at all to do with me..

I am not a savior.. just a messenger..

I have not discounted your premises or suggestions in any way, nor will I try to tell you what to think or believe. Each of us has unique life experiences that shape our thinking and reactions.

I do feel you are being a bit too ambiguous as to your 'confirmation', particularly since most everyone here has come to this site specifically to find unique answers to the many questions they have about our world, and the discordance that has manifested here.

To suggest that those here are 'clueless', and "can't handle the truth" (my inference) seems a bit egotistical and condescending. For myself, I can assure you, I most certainly can 'handle' this knowledge, and am most curious as to the true reason for your lack of transparency. I should also add that I'm most curious as to the nature of this confirmation.

I particularly find it interesting that you are willing to expend Considerable effort to detail your suspicions and inferences about various attributes of these Immortals, but cannot find the time or interest to at least outline your experiences that led you to your suspicions, and the source(s) of your confirmation.

And, to suggest that I may be 'one of them'... well, that's just laughable.

Here's my first post on PA, FWIW. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...308#post123308

Please feel free to peruse my postings - I have nothing to hide, and wish you to know that I am as dedicated to Free Will, Love of All, and the Ascension of Humankind, as is Source.

No disrespect, but without adequate citations, everything is just speculation and, at worst, disinformation, (IMO).

In Unity and Peace

treat my rants as disinfo then.. i have nothing to gain or lose by anyone believing or disbelieving my posts..