Strange news on Dalai Lama

[Russ1959]

Didn't a fairly recent thread on here suggested that the Dalai Lama was funded by the Bush Administration?

Sorry I cant remember the topic header.

Russ

[KiwiElf]

Posted by GalaxyHorse (here)
The idea that someone can be a 'Nice Person' and yet promote destructive and ignorant policies is nothing new really.
Hitler was reported to be a very charming, affectionate man in his private mode, children were drawn to him and he loved animals,
this has nothing to do with the results of his actions and beliefs on a 'Macro' level. Human Beings are strange dualities, paradoxes in action.
Who among us can claim to be 100% 'Good' & "Pure of heart"? We are all capable of being stupid, selfish and destructive at times, and yet we are all probably 'Nice People'. That is my take on it.

The whole duality principle of Yin & Yang

[wynderer]

i have never felt quite the same about the Dalai Lama since i learned that part of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition is that the Dalai Lama & his court of hi-ranked Buddhists get info about the future from an 'angry demon' -- a monk is chosen to be possessed by the demon so the demon can speak thru him -- this is hard on the monks & they only live to 30 or so

also i learned from a Sri Lankan friend that in the Buddhist temples in his country, where many of the boys go for schooling & religious 'instruction' at some point in their lives -- they were taught how to do a form of voodoo, using those little dolls

as Jordan Maxwll says -- Nothing in this world is how it looks or seems

[9eagle9]

That is one energy I don't want to feed, we express gratitude for Bush and other will pop up in office in four years time.

In 99 I predicted his administration would be the collapse of this nation. I was a freak then.

By 05 I was a prophet.

You could have very well thanked me, and not had to have risked thousands of lives in bloodshed, torture, and upheaval. . We should express gratitude for an entity that represents a force that feeds on human sacrifice? Grows from it. That's something the ptb indulges in. The more that we say its okay, acceptable, necessary and even something gratitude should be expressed for the more we go down their road. They need our agreement to continue doing that, our gratitude would be the icing on the cake. We are giving them our tacit agreement that they should continue.

I'm sure the ptb have their ways of justifying human sacrifice, and others have their 'light' way of justifying it.

I acknowledge that Bush allowed me to see how very stupid people are, but he didn't create that stupidity so I don't compelled to venerate him for it.

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
Love thy friends. Love thy enemies.

People seem to understand this until someone mentions one of their enemies by name.

George Bush, as a soul, served a wonderful purpose. The density he created woke many people up.

It is much harder to be Judas than Peter. On a soul level, we owe him our thanks.

[Humble Janitor]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
He´s Buddhist.

They have a very balanced and peculiar view of good and bad.

Maybe he was referring to them as extremes, one good, one bad.

Cheers,

Raf.

You make a whole world of sense here.

We often don't take the time to ponder dualities and how they shape our reality is it is.

I ask, is it even possible to be balanced in this world of ours?

[Blake Elder]

Or maybe the Dalai Lama is just trying to be everyone's friend. It seems a little insincere to me.

[transiten]

Posted by Amysenthia (here)
This info is coming from a Piers Morgan interview that was on last night and his holiness was asked if he could name the person he enjoyed meeting the most. He right away said that it was very memorable to meet Nelson Mandela and then he added that he thought George W. Bush was a really nice person when he met him. He did not say he admired him, or even looked up to him. He just said that "he seemed like a really nice person".

Yes exactly Amysenthia! I now remeber reading that earlier! Isn't that interesting how a radiojournalist can twist something a person has said to the extent that Dalai Lama should have said that Bush is one of the persons he admires and looks up to the most comparable with Nelson Mandela (who also has made some mistakes of course as he is only human as the rest of us). It's the desire to launch a "scoop" even though she is regarded as a serious person standing on the side of the poor and opressed. That's a trap we can all fall into, right! I don't know if she has any spiritual beliefs though....

This is a valuable lesson of how difficult it is to rely on what someone says, has red or heard about "The TRUTH" if "out there" on "in here" on Avalon.

I'm rather familiar with Buddhism, even wrote a review of som of his books as i studied different religions on a mediumship course. I remember touching upon the issue of how Dalai Lama would cope with his sexuality and funnily enough they sent a part of the interview where he says somethimes he dreams of women No wonder, he also is only human as the rest of us

On the other hand i'm at the point in my life that i can only really know and trust a person i met IRL. They may not believe anything of what's discussed here on the forum, but might be the one's that can support me when i really need it. At the moment i only "believe" in what i've experienced and can check out myself including some accurate channelings i've had through some mediums, my synchronicities, the loving support from an american astrologer, the food i eat and the soil i dig in my allotment.

Something the Bible comes to mind like "You can have all the knowledge in the world but if you don't have love it's worth nothing".

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by sdv (here)

It is much harder to be Judas than Peter. On a soul level, we owe him our thanks.

I struggle with this concept (that we choose to play a role for a soul purpose), and perhaps this is not the place to discuss that in great detail. BUT, when I consider Robert Mugabe, George W Bush, and so on, I always say, with much gratitude, 'thank you that I am not that person'. Imagine having that much power and causing such harm? AND, I try to remember that before I judge them I shouod consider 'what if I had to walk in their shoes'.

Maybe you have caused such harm in your soul's distant past sdv, I'm quite certain I have. So maybe that's why it hurts so much when we see it now. It's worth consideration.

[transiten]

Posted by wynderer (here)
i have never felt quite the same about the Dalai Lama since i learned that part of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition is that the Dalai Lama & his court of hi-ranked Buddhists get info about the future from an 'angry demon' -- a monk is chosen to be possessed by the demon so the demon can speak thru him -- this is hard on the monks & they only live to 30 or so

also i learned from a Sri Lankan friend that in the Buddhist temples in his country, where many of the boys go for schooling & religious 'instruction' at some point in their lives -- they were taught how to do a form of voodoo, using those little dolls

as Jordan Maxwll says -- Nothing in this world is how it looks or seems

Yes wynderer, i saw that video....filled me with horror....this kind of shamanism is a rude way to "spirituality" as i feel, but what do i know, i have no first hand experience, it's just my gutfeeling as with ayahuasca also....

[Fred Steeves]

As a side note though, how many of us knew he considers himself a Marxist?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...194617398.html

Post edit. Sorry for the confusion with the link I had posted, Freddie had brain fart. Thank you kindly for pointing it out Panopticon!

[sdv]

Maybe you have caused such harm in your soul's distant past sdv, I'm quite certain I have. So maybe that's why it hurts so much when we see it now. It's worth consideration.

Would be a sideline to take the discussion in this direction, BUT for now I say Thanks Fred for that wise and compassionate reply. Do we ever get to a place where we are all compassionate and kind and caring?

[ulli]

Incarnating as the 14th Dalai Lama had to be the bravest of all acts.

When I came across a book by Victor and Victoria Trimondi about the shadow side of the Dalai Lama I was in conflict about where I stood in relation to his Holiness.
Now that I have reconciled this conflict I admire him even more.
Because to live in the 20th century and have bridge the gap between ancient traditions and a modern world, while remaining the leader of a hijacked nation and also keeping the international mainstream media happy as well as their opponents can't be easy.
Yet he elegantly orchestrated the changes that had to be made.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by sdv (here)
Do we ever get to a place where we are all compassionate and kind and caring?

Oops, you had to leave off with a question that I can't resist.(LOL) Even though I'm not a Buddhist, me thinks they are right on the money in saying that what you speak of is basically our true nature, our true essence. It's always patiently waiting for when we are ready to come "home" so to speak. Then it will be patient yet again as we ramble on excitedly about our adventures.

[dan i el]

As a statesman, maybe he just engaged with a political answer due to the Bush dynasty's sympathetic stance to his cause, in terms of the Chinese occupation of Tibet. Not so much about the duality of man as simple politiking.

[Earth Angel]

that is brilliant!! gave me a real LOL moment to start my morning ....thank you

Posted by WyoSeeker (here)
As a spark of the divine creator, a being of light and love, it must have been a heavy, heavy karmic burden to take on the role and personality of George Bush in this life. Bless him for making such a sacrifice to wake up so many of us and for playing his role of bumbling idiot destroyer of the world to such perfection.

[panopticon]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
As a side note though, how many of us knew he considers himself a Marxist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shYbs2f-VgA

I must be more tired than I thought...
What does Seinfeld and someone called Paul Drake have to do with the Dalai Lama considering himself a Marxist?
I missed something, somewhere and now I sleep, perchance to dream.
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[kcbc2010]

Hmmm....I thought Dick Cheney was actually running the government and Bush was just the puppet. As other have said, even bad people can do good things. Good people can do bad things. All of us serve a purpose on this plane and he served his. I tend to find myself looking for redeeming qualities in everyone, even if there isn't much (or nothing) to find. I really don't want to believe that someone could be "that" bad.

[jorr lundstrom]

Well, several years ago when Iam Xel Lungold said that Bush & Co
did a damn good job; I couldnt realize the size of the picture he
was talking about. Now its easier to see how necessary their
sinister part was in the game. So lets be thankful for their skill in
playing their roles in this cosmic comedy. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[another bob]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Well, several years ago when Iam Xel Lungold said that Bush & Co
did a damn good job; I couldnt realize the size of the picture he
was talking about. Now its easier to see how necessary their
sinister part was in the game. So lets be thankful for their skill in
playing their roles in this cosmic comedy. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

Night after night we have become Scheherazade for each other, delighting in stories about one character who likes to play as two.

We share this timeless tale to soften our anxious death into its own loving arms, and rest there, as this Love, this Peace.

Tonight is the one about Shiva –

Shiva from the very start, Shiva at story’s end, Shiva writing all the lines, perfectly playing every role, juggling all the production props, applauding when the moment’s ripe, guffawing when the mask drops off, wiping His brow when the curtain drifts down, enjoying a smoke when it’s over –

ready to begin the play again, on this stage with no beginning.

Om Shiva – play it again! Play it in every possible way! Play it till everything’s gone to sleep in these arms now wrapped around me.

[Deega]

Posted by transiten (here)
I heared on Swedish news today that the Dalai Lama has two persons he looks up to the most in the contemporary world and those are Nelson Mandela.....................and
you won't believe it......................................George Bush

(They are both Cancer by the way)

And this coming from a serious radioshow......must be disinfo.......
Comments anyone?

Thanks Transiten, googling, I came upon the «The Blade» web site where a photo illustrates a great moment of smiles shared by George Bush and the Dalai Lama.

Here the link: http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/04...george-w-bush/

All the best to you.

Deega