The Drake paperwork is posted - FreedomReigns

[GlassSteagallfan]

The Drake paperwork is posted on the FreedomReigns.us website.

http://freedomreigns.us/States_Documents.html

[YvonneG]

Thanks ....I just looked and read all of them.
This is most convincing ...
Very exciting...

[Unified Serenity]

Attachment 15973

This is the list:

Apostille141

ApostilleCertification140

Certification_of_Minutes142

Georgia minutes146

Notice of states in union144

Pennsylvania Constitution143

Pennsylvania Notice 145


Apostille 141 just says it certifies something was delivered, but it specifically says it does NOT certify the content of the document for which it was issued. So, something went is all it means.

Apostille 140 is just another notarized document proof sheet.

Certification of minutes 142 is a notarized form saying there was a Jural meeting.

Georgia minutes 146 has two basic motions called by a group who is agreeing to 1. Notification of Certification which means something got delivered somewhere, but they did not certify the content of what was delivered. 2. That they would use the name "Constitutional Republic of Georgia of the America's." so as not to confuse the world with the Georgia in Russia. Again, are these people meeting with Vladamir Putin to discuss world policy decisions and make trade agreements? Are they printing money? Are they doing anything other than having a meeting, claiming a name, and saying they mailed something somewhere? Government is power, plain and simple. What are these people doing to lower the unemployment rate in the State... sorry, Constitutional Republic of Georgia of the America's?

The Notice of States in Union 144 sounds great, but I'd like to see them act upon this in any meaningful way. I want to know who set up this jural assembly so that all citizens of that state could participate, and how did they provide proper notice for those interested to attend said meeting. Is there proof of this notice to verify all living in Georgia and apparently bound by this new government had ample opportunity to know about the meeting and attend it?

Pennsylvania Constitution is just that, the document from 1775 to the revolution and our Declaration of Independence, constitution of Pennsylvania and articles of Confederation. That is not exactly a new document.

Pennsylvania notice is just like the Georgia Notice. Again, who from Pennsylvania as a people agreed to this? Was there well publicized information of this incredible moment in their state's history of a new government and all it's notices being sent out to the "world"? If notice was given, how was it given, who attended the meeting, how many voted and what is their location now? A government has to have a place of meeting etc.. What does all this mean really if it's just some notarized information that we all like to hear, but has not teeth?

If the Military truly is waiting for the people to stand up, then having all this stuff done in secrecy isn't the best means to do it. I was wondering, who the hell elected Tim Turner to be President ? It seems all very kangaroo courtish to me or more like a political game of Risk. of course everything will be plain to understand when all the mass arrests take place or was it one by one arrests? I can't really tell anymore since the story changes.

[DreamsInDigital]

US,

Drake has nothing to do with the Cabal Stooge Tim Turner.

[sdv]

Actually these documents prove nothing other than that they have been created/copied.

Apostille 141 (not proof that anything was delivered at all): another example of bits and pieces in the public domain being used for 'proof', and when this information is filled with difficult to understand phrases it is more likely that people will accept it as proof when it is just a lot of hot air. Apostille 141 is a grand-sounding thing with a mundane application and is about Private International Law (e.g. marriage, property ownership, child maintenance payments, and so on).

http://www.hcch.net/index_en.php?act...ns.text&cid=41

Read for yourself and see through the hogwash, which at least is good enough entertainment value. But I do see a disturbing trend for people to abandon reason and surrender to Drake (if Drake says so it must be true and look he has given proof).

[Unified Serenity]

I know Drake has nothing to do with Tim Turner, but he seems to be saying lots of things have been decided, put into motion and papers filed and I want to know just who the hell does he think he is if it's all done in secrecy? Oh I know, I know they would have been killed if they had spoken up. That does not give them the right to file papers on behalf of the people of any state without due notification of papers, meetings, and picking representatives for the people to talk about this stuff or letting the people vote on it themselves.

Thus my comments about Tim Turner. So, did Drake notify citizens? Were the people given a fair opportunity to share their voices and vote? I seriously doubt it and thus it's just a bunch of fantasy mumbo jumbo that holds not real power. It's just documents turned in somewhere that have been notarized. I can go down to a notary tomorrow and sign a document in front of a couple friends saying I own the earth and I call it planet Serenity with all due powers and rights vested in me under the government of Unity and love. The friends witness it, and a notary signs that she witnessed said document being signed.

Now, do I get to print money, raise taxes, call out the militia, engage in international commerce on behalf of my world?

I think I've made my point.

[corson]

After looking at the Apostille Certification it looks valid. as a former legal secretary who has filed documents in the court of common pleas, this is appropriate format for notary signature. the seal looks authentic.
regards, corson

it is not proof that anything was delivered to the hague, this would take a time stamped copy of receipt from the hague itself. but it does show that the documents were notorized properly.

[GoodeTXSG]

I will take a look, do the dates on the time stamps match the Oct./Nov. time frame he mentioned on the radio? Now it’s time to verify the document stamps and their layouts to prove they are authentic... or not. I will start my research. Let me know what you guys come up with. I know someone that authenticates documents. I will see if she is willing to take a look at this type of info. She is pretty much a straight laced business type.

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Posted by corson (here)
After looking at the Apostille Certification it looks valid. as a former legal secretary who has filed documents in the court of common pleas, this is appropriate format for notary signature. the seal looks authentic.
regards, corson

it is not proof that anything was delivered to the hague, this would take a time stamped copy of receipt from the hague itself. but it does show that the documents were notorized properly.

Thank you, I appreciate the professional insight. Time to dig a little deeper

[foreverfan]

So... who's going to enforce it again?



I'm still worried.

[sdv]

Apostille 141 is a grand-sounding thing with a mundane application and is about Private International Law (e.g. marriage, property ownership, child maintenance payments, and so on).

http://www.hcch.net/index_en.php?act...ns.text&cid=41

And here it is from the website ...

Since 1893, the Hague Conference on Private International Law, a melting pot of different legal traditions, has developed and serviced Conventions which respond to global needs in the following areas:

International protection of children, family and property relations:
•International protection of children
- Child Abduction Section
· INCADAT
- Intercountry Adoption Section
•International child support and other forms of family maintenance
•International protection of adults
•Relations between (former) spouses
•Wills, trusts, estates

International legal co-operation and litigation:
•International legal and administrative co-operation
- Apostille Section
(incl. e-APP)
- Service Section
- Evidence Section
•Jurisdiction and enforcement of judgments
- Choice of Court Section
- The "Judgments Project"

International commercial and finance law:
•Contracts
- Choice of law in international contracts
•Torts
•Securities
•Trusts
•Recognition of companies

The more I investigate what these people say in order to verify it as reasonable and true or not, the more stupid they seem to be, or they think everyone else is so stupid that they will be easily duped.

Imagine if someone said that they intend to get married and that they have applied for a marriage licence and then give you 'proof' that they had sent notice to (which changes to filed papers with which changes to ...) the Federal Reserve Bank. It's kind of like that.

[GoodeTXSG]

"Have Gun Will Travel"
I think the Military and Law enforcement can handle most of it depending on how ugly it gets. But there are plenty of us out there with the training and experience to lend a hand if called on.

[Alie]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Attachment 15973

I can't really tell anymore since the story changes.

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Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12

Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark

[frozen alchemy]

Yawn. So has anything happened yet? Any arrests? Any change in world government? Any power outages, toilet paper shortages, anything like that? Any evidence that Drake is indeed 'busy, busy, busy', too busy to give dozens of hours of interviews in two weeks' time?

[DreamsInDigital]

@ US

I still don't get what conclusion you are trying to draw here, the people that are behind Drake and this global movement are completely separate from Tim Turner, THEY did NOT make Tim Turner president, only the RUSA did which is a complete separate group( which doesn't even have support of military, pentagon, 134 plus countries etc like Drake's group does). So where/how are you drawing a connection that doesn't even exist? Drake and camp haven't even talked about who would be appointed 'temporary' commander and chief. It's amazing how quickly things get twisted and taken way out of context. Specially with such an intelligent group of people here. This whole movement has NOTHING to do with that Cabal Stooge Tim Turner, NOTHING (please re-read preceding sentence 6x at least so it sinks in) Tim Turner will NOT be our president, even temporarily. Did you not hear where Drake said he would shoot the guy if he ever saw him?

[YvonneG]

I don't see that this was done in secrecy when it is out on the internet. My understanding from people who were involved in this, is that some people died working on this. Additionally, I am rather sure that back in the 1775 or whenever those who signed the Declaration did not going around outing themselves to everyone so that they could be targets.

[YvonneG]

I think this has been repeated many times by Drake and on this forum as well. NOTHING WAS FILED...IT WAS NOTIFICATION LIKE WHEN WE POST SOMETHING A NEWSPAPER TO NOTIFY. So this is quite irrelevant. People who keep making this point, are not listening. I for one have decided to stop answering, since my energy has to go into working in my county. NO FILING WAS DONE. SHould you want to truly understand they listen to last nights call. This doesn't mean that I believe it 100%, but I am darn close to 100%.

It seems people want to keep sepculating, giving opinions, researching something to make it not so, and they keep looking at the wrong thing or asking the wrong question such as this. Nothing personal to any one. But I realized that by continally read all of this, it is not doing me any good.

Posted by sdv (here)
Apostille 141 is a grand-sounding thing with a mundane application and is about Private International Law (e.g. marriage, property ownership, child maintenance payments, and so on).

http://www.hcch.net/index_en.php?act...ns.text&cid=41

And here it is from the website ...

Since 1893, the Hague Conference on Private International Law, a melting pot of different legal traditions, has developed and serviced Conventions which respond to global needs in the following areas:

International protection of children, family and property relations:
•International protection of children
- Child Abduction Section
· INCADAT
- Intercountry Adoption Section
•International child support and other forms of family maintenance
•International protection of adults
•Relations between (former) spouses
•Wills, trusts, estates

International legal co-operation and litigation:
•International legal and administrative co-operation
- Apostille Section
(incl. e-APP)
- Service Section
- Evidence Section
•Jurisdiction and enforcement of judgments
- Choice of Court Section
- The "Judgments Project"

International commercial and finance law:
•Contracts
- Choice of law in international contracts
•Torts
•Securities
•Trusts
•Recognition of companies

The more I investigate what these people say in order to verify it as reasonable and true or not, the more stupid they seem to be, or they think everyone else is so stupid that they will be easily duped.

Imagine if someone said that they intend to get married and that they have applied for a marriage licence and then give you 'proof' that they had sent notice to (which changes to filed papers with which changes to ...) the Federal Reserve Bank. It's kind of like that.

[Avocadess]

GoodeTXSG: My understanding is that the documents sent for Pennsylvania were back around September/October of 2011 -- oops, no, it was August 2011 at the time of sending -- but that a package containing many of the other states (and making it a majority of states) did not happen with the groups with affiliation with Drake until February 2012.

Tim Turner sure is doing a good job of muddying the waters, but anyone who actually PAYS ATTENTION knows that Tim Turner is NOT a part of this but a pretender who is a shill for the PTW. There are no doubt still some "innocent" people who are still aligned with Tim Turner, but only because they don't realize what has been happening and what he has been doing. Terri pointed out that the way Tim Turner ran things with RuSA it was very compartmentalized. That is NOT okay when you have a supposed "elected" president. (It sickens me when I hear people refer to Turner as President. Images of Jim Jones and Kool-Aid come to mind.)

[YvonneG]

Alie, thank you!

Posted by Alie (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Attachment 15973

I can't really tell anymore since the story changes.

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Collaborative Information to the Freedom Movement ---- James Martinez 4/26/12

Especially listen to 35 - 36 Minute Mark

HOLY COW ALIE...I just started listening and I see this is going to be big.

[sdv]

I think this has been repeated many times by Drake and on this forum as well. NOTHING WAS FILED...IT WAS NOTIFICATION LIKE WHEN WE POST SOMETHING A NEWSPAPER TO NOTIFY. So this is quite irrelevant. People who keep making this point, are not listening. I for one have decided to stop answering, since my energy has to go into working in my county. NO FILING WAS DONE. SHould you want to truly understand they listen to last nights call. This doesn't mean that I believe it 100%, but I am darn close to 100%.

And you are not listening. I don't care if it was supposedly filed or notified or sent to the Moon in a bottle. That is not the issue here. (Drake keeps changing his story anyway.) Do you believe that Apostille 141 and 140 are authentic documents and proof? Do you even know what an Apostille is and for what it is used?

I have tried to explain it as simply as possible and you just do not get it. It's like holding up proof of communication with a bank about your housing loan and then saying that is proof that you are married.

It's your mind and if you refuse to use it than I hope the angels will keep you safe anyway!

[we-R-one]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
So... who's going to enforce it again?



I'm still worried.

LMAO, you're killin me foreverfan, lmao.

Ok guys.....I luv the passion on here; I would have killed to have half of you on my team when I was running my patriot group. When I saw these papers last night my heart sank. I don't see anything significant in these documents. Show me the Hague paperwork! I tagged this post not just cause it's funny, but in all seriousness if you don't have military backing, than this means absolutely nothing and I see no sign of any military backing.

I'm not picking sides-I think it's so great what all of you are doing on both sides, I truly appreciate everyone's work so thank you. I certainly don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but those are my honest thoughts.

Foreverfan......still laughing......