The Drake paperwork is posted - FreedomReigns

[DreamsInDigital]

We-R-One, read YavonneG's comments, those papers were just for notification, and he DOES have Military backing, 90% of it is behind him and this movement, and so is the Pentagon. If you had listened to last night's broadcast you would here he is working on getting official paperwork from the group. To show his military support etc. But, seriously check out Yavonne's comments in this thread, I don't feel the need to repeat something that has already been said a dozen plus times.

[aranuk]

I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
@ US

I still don't get what conclusion you are trying to draw here, the people that are behind Drake and this global movement are completely separate from Tim Turner, THEY did NOT make Tim Turner president, only the RUSA did which is a complete separate group( which doesn't even have support of military, pentagon, 134 plus countries etc like Drake's group does). So where/how are you drawing a connection that doesn't even exist? Drake and camp haven't even talked about who would be appointed 'temporary' commander and chief. It's amazing how quickly things get twisted and taken way out of context. Specially with such an intelligent group of people here. This whole movement has NOTHING to do with that Cabal Stooge Tim Turner, NOTHING (please re-read preceding sentence 6x at least so it sinks in) Tim Turner will NOT be our president, even temporarily. Did you not hear where Drake said he would shoot the guy if he ever saw him?

I apologize for your not understanding me. If A is wrong then B is wrong because B is the same basic thing as A. Let me give you an example. Let's say I have two children and child A steals a pack of Bubblegum. I discipline that child. Child B steals a pack of chewing gum. I do believe disciplining child B is in order as well. I KNOW Drake and TT are not buddies, friends, cohorts per interviews. I KNOW Teri used to be associated wtih TT and no longer is. But, TT is linked to an organization that somehow thinks they can elect him president (Child A) and set up a government and act for all the people of the country. Drake is linked to an organization that thinks they can vote on creating states and file papers on behalf of entire states and thus the country.

WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?

When was proper notice given for the citizens of said states and country to come together and have a voice? This affects everyone and though their intentions may be for good, it still smacks of elitist "I'll do what I want" mentality. I think another word for someone deciding what's best for other's lives is TYRANT.

[Avocadess]

sdv: I think a good example is common law marriage. And after all, the government Drake et al. are working to restore is common law. IT IGNORES ALL THE LEGAL HANKY PANKY. To get married by common law in my state, (last I heard), all you have to do is live with the person for a few days or weeks and both represent yourselves to others as married. Bingo, you are married. I see this deal as very similar to that. A person has to FREE themselves from all the programming of a lifetime to be able to "see" this however.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

Or what, you'll leave the thread and start one for the Drake supporters to all get in a circle and pat each other on the back so they can bask in false hope and such of goo goo yummy energy like vampires needing a fix? I'm sick of you lollipop dreams and gummy slide fantasy people trying to tell us who see the world in a very boring and straight forward way to put on your glasses to see it as something other than what it is. It sort of reminds me of someone in the movie "They Live" telling the guy who finally sees WTF is going on to not put on those special super duper reality glasses cause the world is such a beautiful place and there are not bad people.

Now, I could have skipped saying all that, but I do feel better expressing myself, so thank you for that. I could have just said, if you dn't like our posts put us on ignore or get off the thread where we are speaking our minds. I stayed away from the Drake fanclub thread that talked about all my bullsh** excrement on threads though my name was not mentioned, I am one of the naysayers. Some world we live in where we ALL get to say our minds thoughts and not just SOME of us. Who told you to shut up or insinuated it? Not one of us. You love and light people talk about tolerance but you show little of it yourselves.l

[Avocadess]

As explained in a recent show, Drake also has the support of 1.5 million professional/trained civilian militia. Drake is the commander of that militia. Should the U.S. military turn on us, we have ground troops to go to bat for us immediately.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
As explained in a recent show, Drake also has the support of 1.5 million professional/trained civilian militia. Drake is the commander of that militia. Should the U.S. military turn on us, we have ground troops to go to bat for us immediately.

And your proof of that support is what? Another signed notarized document saying it? I am a member of the Florida Militia. I have never heard to supporting Drake by the State of Florida's militia. Please do tell me when this meeting was held because I never saw notice of said meeting to chime in my two cents worth. Oh, but some of you don't really want our input do you? We are just negative naysayers.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
As explained in a recent show, Drake also has the support of 1.5 million professional/trained civilian militia. Drake is the commander of that militia. Should the U.S. military turn on us, we have ground troops to go to bat for us immediately.

And your proof of that support is what? Another signed notarized document saying it? I am a member of the Florida Militia. I have never heard to supporting Drake by the State of Florida's militia. Please do tell me when this meeting was held because I never saw notice of said meeting to chime in my two cents worth. Oh, but some of you don't really want our input do you? We are just negative naysayers.

This does not surprise me. It's the very reason that I was questioning the backing....I checked with a contact that I met through my patriot involvement and he told me that the militia groups in our state hadn't been contacted either.....

[Unified Serenity]

Anyone who wants to give up their connection to the Washington D.C. club can do so, by turning in their fraudulent SS card, denouncing any false contracts made with said group, and declaring their Citizenship in the Unites States of America and not a citizen of the U.S. States of America, there is a difference. Then they need to file a w8 with their employer declaring they are NOT a citizen of the U.S. cabal, but are a foreigner to it. That puts them back as a common law citizen. They cannot leave the system if they are a Federal Employee, it's one of the rules to being one. They can give up all benefits that go to U.S. citizens if they were a Federal Employee including military and leave the system and become a common law citizen with all rights thereof.

By applying for that SS card you requested to become a citizen of the U.S. corporation and subject to all it's laws. The Constitution has little input on that small area and it's territories. We were duped into joining that club by being conned into the Social Security System and being told we had to get a SS card to get a job. That was a lie. Just file a W8. I did not get my SS card until I was 16 and got a job. Now, they have a government worker show up in the mother's hospital room the morning after delivery to sign the papers for your baby's SS card to put the lil tyke right into the system. Of course, it's a contract and you cannot enter your child into a contract legally that will bind them for the rest of their lives. So, anyone who's parents were conned into signing that stupid paper can choose to void the contract now that you know how it works and decide you don't want to be a part of it.

You cannot apply for Federal benefits, get a federal job or serve in the military. You also are not subject to the rules they make up for the citizens of the U.S.. Having said all this, you may go to jail depending on the judge when you try to enforce your rights like the right to travel so you don't get a license or license plate for your vehicle or do not file with IRS (though its voluntary) and they come after you for tax evasion. There are any number of ways you can screw up. One bad judge or one mistep and improperly dotted i's and crossed t's and you are in prison. That is how they keep us in line. Prison sucks, it destroys your family. Your children lose their parent and suffer..... few take up the challenge to legally step out of the system because they FEAR losing and harming what they love. That fear is the control factor. So, they vainly decide it's better for someone else to do it. Only, the only way to stop this monster is to get rid of the U.S. States of America and millions of people are well programmed that anyoen who challenges Uncle Sam is a traitor, wacko, and dangerous, so they will just kill you. Sorry for the reality check here.

Drake may have all the best of intentions, but it's not going to work. The best thing we can do is live our lives, help one another, and learn to be as self sufficient as possible. Live on less and stop running on the wheel of deception.

[Avocadess]

we-R-one: I'm far from being an expert on where and who the civilian militia are, but it has always been my impression that many of them are not part of other groups. Could it be that there are other militia in your state that you DON'T know? I would think so. I certainly believe that a LOT more than 1.5 million civilians are armed who also have professional training in the use of arms. Or do you disagree with that?

I would add that if I were you I would probably attempt to contact Drake through FreedomReigns.US to ask him your question about the Florida group with which you are affiliated. (I hope to God they are not affiliated with Tim Turner!) Or you could call in with a question during a future radio show. That would be awesome!!

[we-R-one]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
We-R-One, read YavonneG's comments, those papers were just for notification, and he DOES have Military backing, 90% of it is behind him and this movement, and so is the Pentagon. If you had listened to last night's broadcast you would here he is working on getting official paperwork from the group. To show his military support etc. But, seriously check out Yavonne's comments in this thread, I don't feel the need to repeat something that has already been said a dozen plus times.

I realize this, but you're basing on the fact that because Drake "says" than it must be so at least that is what I'm getting from it. I just can't rely on that until I see something more official. Like I've mentioned before in a past post. I got suckered into the TT group when it was initially starting. I signed the original declaration based on TT "saying" that we had military backing. About three months later, after we had all ready signed and the documents were delivered to the Governors, he renigged and said that he didn't have military backing....WTF

There is no tone in my post, I'm not mad at you, I'm just saying a lot of us got burned not to mention the risk we took so I can't base anything on someone just "sayin". I'm sorry I can't do it again. I really appreciate all the post your guys do and the time you take to listen to the calls. Unfortunately for me I do not have the luxury of time to keep up so I really rely on you guys and the information you post. So I mean no disrespect and it's not because I don't care or I'm some idiot who's not paying attention. I work two jobs to keep my head a float, so it leaves little time for listening to all the audios.....it kills me that I can't keep up because I truly do care. I suspect there are many others out there like myself, so in assuming that, I say thank you to all of you for keeping us informed.

[Avocadess]

Thanks, we-R-one. I certainly understand your consternation!!

Since we seemed to post at the same time (with me editing my post above) will post this again in case you missed it:

I would add that if I were you I would probably attempt to contact Drake through FreedomReigns.US to ask him your question about the Florida group with which you are affiliated. Or you could call in with a question during a future radio show. That would be awesome!!

GOOD FOR YOU for finally seeing through Tim Turner. I still believe in Drake, but if and when the day comes that I don't, I will certain say so publicly.

[aranuk]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

Or what, you'll leave the thread and start one for the Drake supporters to all get in a circle and pat each other on the back so they can bask in false hope and such of goo goo yummy energy like vampires needing a fix? I'm sick of you lollipop dreams and gummy slide fantasy people trying to tell us who see the world in a very boring and straight forward way to put on your glasses to see it as something other than what it is. It sort of reminds me of someone in the movie "They Live" telling the guy who finally sees WTF is going on to not put on those special super duper reality glasses cause the world is such a beautiful place and there are not bad people.

Now, I could have skipped saying all that, but I do feel better expressing myself, so thank you for that. I could have just said, if you dn't like our posts put us on ignore or get off the thread where we are speaking our minds. I stayed away from the Drake fanclub thread that talked about all my bullsh** excrement on threads though my name was not mentioned, I am one of the naysayers. Some world we live in where we ALL get to say our minds thoughts and not just SOME of us. Who told you to shut up or insinuated it? Not one of us. You love and light people talk about tolerance but you show little of it yourselves.l

I never threatened to do anything,. In case you haven't noticed there IS a thread for Drake supporters already, so why would I start one? That doesn't make any sense. Why do you ask me "Who told you to shut up or insinuated it?" I never said such a thing. Show us all where I said that. I am not one of the love and light people. Why do you say such a thing? Show me were I spoke about tolerance? You quote me above and yet do not address my words. You invent things I have said, and accuse me of being something I am not. You're not as clever as you think are you?

Stan

[we-R-one]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
we-R-one: I'm far from being an expert on where and who the civilian militia are, but it has always been my impression that many of them are not part of other groups. Could it be that there are other militia in your state that you DON'T know? I would think so. I certainly believe that a LOT more than 1.5 million civilians are armed who also have professional training in the use of arms. Or do you disagree with that?

I would add that if I were you I would probably attempt to contact Drake through FreedomReigns.US to ask him your question about the Florida group with which you are affiliated. (I hope to God they are not affiliated with Tim Turner!) Or you could call in with a question during a future radio show. That would be awesome!!

Ya, I've thought of that which is why I haven't pressed the issue until now. It was US post that brings an uneasy feeling that if her group hasn't been contacted either.....

[Avocadess]

we-R-one: US is one of only two people I have on "ignore" mode on the Avalon Forum. I don't even read those posts when they are quoted. I find that person to be far from serene for one thing, haha.

[we-R-one]

You know what would make a lot of this go away???? Just dump the friggin $. When I first got involved in the patriot movement about 2008, that was the first suggestion out of my mouth as I could see no end to all this. Dump the $, all of us, and quit putting value in it like we do. That would shut things down real quick. I realize the inconvenience created by what I suggest, but enough is enough all ready.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I can go down to a notary tomorrow and sign a document in front of a couple friends saying I own the earth and I call it planet Serenity with all due powers and rights vested in me under the government of Unity and love. The friends witness it, and a notary signs that she witnessed said document being signed.

Planet Serenity? I'd probably endorse that.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

Or what, you'll leave the thread and start one for the Drake supporters to all get in a circle and pat each other on the back so they can bask in false hope and such of goo goo yummy energy like vampires needing a fix? I'm sick of you lollipop dreams and gummy slide fantasy people trying to tell us who see the world in a very boring and straight forward way to put on your glasses to see it as something other than what it is. It sort of reminds me of someone in the movie "They Live" telling the guy who finally sees WTF is going on to not put on those special super duper reality glasses cause the world is such a beautiful place and there are not bad people.

Now, I could have skipped saying all that, but I do feel better expressing myself, so thank you for that. I could have just said, if you dn't like our posts put us on ignore or get off the thread where we are speaking our minds. I stayed away from the Drake fanclub thread that talked about all my bullsh** excrement on threads though my name was not mentioned, I am one of the naysayers. Some world we live in where we ALL get to say our minds thoughts and not just SOME of us. Who told you to shut up or insinuated it? Not one of us. You love and light people talk about tolerance but you show little of it yourselves.l

I never threatened to do anything,. In case you haven't noticed there IS a thread for Drake supporters already, so why would I start one? That doesn't make any sense. Why do you ask me "Who told you to shut up or insinuated it?" I never said such a thing. Show us all where I said that. I am not one of the love and light people. Why do you say such a thing? Show me were I spoke about tolerance? You quote me above and yet do not address my words. You invent things I have said, and accuse me of being something I am not. You're not as clever as you think are you?

Stan

It is plainly obvious to me that you cannot read between any lines, but see what you want to see no matter what is said or done. I KNEW a thread was already started.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Anyone who wants to give up their connection to the Washington D.C. club can do so, by turning in their fraudulent SS card, denouncing any false contracts made with said group, and declaring their Citizenship in the Unites States of America and not a citizen of the U.S. States of America, there is a difference. Then they need to file a w8 with their employer declaring they are NOT a citizen of the U.S. cabal, but are a foreigner to it. That puts them back as a common law citizen. They cannot leave the system if they are a Federal Employee, it's one of the rules to being one. They can give up all benefits that go to U.S. citizens if they were a Federal Employee including military and leave the system and become a common law citizen with all rights thereof.

By applying for that SS card you requested to become a citizen of the U.S. corporation and subject to all it's laws. The Constitution has little input on that small area and it's territories. We were duped into joining that club by being conned into the Social Security System and being told we had to get a SS card to get a job. That was a lie. Just file a W8. I did not get my SS card until I was 16 and got a job. Now, they have a government worker show up in the mother's hospital room the morning after delivery to sign the papers for your baby's SS card to put the lil tyke right into the system. Of course, it's a contract and you cannot enter your child into a contract legally that will bind them for the rest of their lives. So, anyone who's parents were conned into signing that stupid paper can choose to void the contract now that you know how it works and decide you don't want to be a part of it.

You cannot apply for Federal benefits, get a federal job or serve in the military. You also are not subject to the rules they make up for the citizens of the U.S.. Having said all this, you may go to jail depending on the judge when you try to enforce your rights like the right to travel so you don't get a license or license plate for your vehicle or do not file with IRS (though its voluntary) and they come after you for tax evasion. There are any number of ways you can screw up. One bad judge or one mistep and improperly dotted i's and crossed t's and you are in prison. That is how they keep us in line. Prison sucks, it destroys your family. Your children lose their parent and suffer..... few take up the challenge to legally step out of the system because they FEAR losing and harming what they love. That fear is the control factor. So, they vainly decide it's better for someone else to do it. Only, the only way to stop this monster is to get rid of the U.S. States of America and millions of people are well programmed that anyoen who challenges Uncle Sam is a traitor, wacko, and dangerous, so they will just kill you. Sorry for the reality check here.

This is what I have come to know too...... Every city, county, and state has an EIN number which you can find under Duns and Bradstreet- this country is set up as a corporation which means they follow corporate law or the color of law, not common law; and they can do this legally. It's not unconstitutional what's being done it's non-constitutional. And when you find yourself in a court of law you will be subjected to "interpretive ruling" which means regardless of the evidence you provide, they can throw it out as they so choose as your are under their jurisdiction.

Additionally as most of you know, a surety bond is taken out under your SS# in which they help themselves to whenever they want. Of course they don't tell you this that's where the fraud lies. So they love when soliders die cause they can cash in those bonds left and right. F-ing nauseating....sorry

[aranuk]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

Or what, you'll leave the thread and start one for the Drake supporters to all get in a circle and pat each other on the back so they can bask in false hope and such of goo goo yummy energy like vampires needing a fix? I'm sick of you lollipop dreams and gummy slide fantasy people trying to tell us who see the world in a very boring and straight forward way to put on your glasses to see it as something other than what it is. It sort of reminds me of someone in the movie "They Live" telling the guy who finally sees WTF is going on to not put on those special super duper reality glasses cause the world is such a beautiful place and there are not bad people.

Now, I could have skipped saying all that, but I do feel better expressing myself, so thank you for that. I could have just said, if you dn't like our posts put us on ignore or get off the thread where we are speaking our minds. I stayed away from the Drake fanclub thread that talked about all my bullsh** excrement on threads though my name was not mentioned, I am one of the naysayers. Some world we live in where we ALL get to say our minds thoughts and not just SOME of us. Who told you to shut up or insinuated it? Not one of us. You love and light people talk about tolerance but you show little of it yourselves.l

I never threatened to do anything,. In case you haven't noticed there IS a thread for Drake supporters already, so why would I start one? That doesn't make any sense. Why do you ask me "Who told you to shut up or insinuated it?" I never said such a thing. Show us all where I said that. I am not one of the love and light people. Why do you say such a thing? Show me were I spoke about tolerance? You quote me above and yet do not address my words. You invent things I have said, and accuse me of being something I am not. You're not as clever as you think are you?

Stan

It is plainly obvious to me that you cannot read between any lines, but see what you want to see no matter what is said or done. I KNEW a thread was already started.

I addressed what you accused me of in my defence. I made that clear. I didn't need to read between any lines. Are you saying now that I shouldn't pay any notice to what you write but I should be reading between the lines of your words? If I were to do that, you would then accuse me of misinterpretating what you did write. Stop playing your cryptic games with me please. I know you knew a thread was already started as I read your nay saying post there, but knowing that you are all over the place with your posts, there might have been a chance that you forgot.

Stan.