The Drake paperwork is posted - FreedomReigns

[gripreaper]

Serenity is right though. Most here do not understand sovereignty and what it means to be soverign, or what it means to extricate oneself from slavery and stand up and risk it all for this huge paradigm shift. Even fewer understand the de facto color of law system and it's rules and laws, or commerce and how only fictions can operate in commerce. This system is totally embedded into every aspect of our lives, and I would say even into our very DNA.

Mozart is quite knowledgeable on this, and I have tried to clarify this several times as well. It's taken me thousands of hours and yes, I followed RAP and RuSA and the many other patriot movements over the last 5 years or so, and back engineered and studied their roots, as well as many of the key players. It's a path I would not wish on anyone, especially individually. It's going to take a major awakening to pull this off and many people to stand up and understand self determination and self responsibility. We have been taught dependence on the system from cradle to grave, so don't expect your neighbors to sign up for this overnight.

I appreciate Unified Serenity's approach to explaining this, as she has been quite cordial and careful three weeks ago (or has it been six weeks?) and is only now pulling out all the stops and taking the sugar coating off of it and telling it raw as she see's it. I think it's time to put the kool-aid down and look at what it really means to be soverign.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Drake may have all the best of intentions, but it's not going to work.

I understand where you're coming from US, but me personally I won't go as far as saying it's not going to work. I want people out there trying, and I do value the attempts of anyone who will try to turn things around and if we fall on our faces, than GET THE HELL BACK UP, is what I'm thinking. Sorry I'm a Star Seed with a bit of an edge to her, lol

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Avocadess (here)
we-R-one: I'm far from being an expert on where and who the civilian militia are, but it has always been my impression that many of them are not part of other groups. Could it be that there are other militia in your state that you DON'T know? I would think so. I certainly believe that a LOT more than 1.5 million civilians are armed who also have professional training in the use of arms. Or do you disagree with that?

I would add that if I were you I would probably attempt to contact Drake through FreedomReigns.US to ask him your question about the Florida group with which you are affiliated. (I hope to God they are not affiliated with Tim Turner!) Or you could call in with a question during a future radio show. That would be awesome!!

Your ignorance is showing in this post. Every adult in the state of Florida is automatically a member of the Militia. It's in the Florida constitution. You made my point very well when you pointed out that there are millions of peole who are gun owners and members of the militia. I bet only a small number are tied in with meetings etc.. Drake has no proof of this 1.5 millions supporters because few people ever sign on the dotted line because of the FBI constant monitoring of any meetings. Yes, they actually show up with camera in hand and take pictures of cars and license plates. I think Drake throws out facts and figures that sound good, but have little in the way of teeth or verifiable. Do tell me where the signed documents are of the 134 countries who have agreed to back Sir Drake. This story is getting better and better. Just keep throwing out comments that sound good and expect people to believe it despite it not making any sense. He says over and over he will not reveal his contacts because they will be killed. That is probably true if they were real, but we have no way of KNOWING anything because NOTHING can be confirmed. Nice trick... Drake really is a magician. He says one thing, expects you to believe the illusion, but if you ask questions you are just not a good member of the audience.

[Unified Serenity]

The only thing that will have a chance is what they are actually hoping we do, and that is a violent uprising. It would have to be massive, it would have to overpower the police, sheriffs,military, and all Federal forces and not turn into mayhem of riots and looting. The moment it becomes chaos the blame is squarely on the people who rebelled. I do believe the South tried this back in the mid 1800's and they had ever right to leave the confederation, and they were controlled very well. The southerners were much more lean on resources. They were running on a shoestring budget. Lincoln had all the benefit of a publically paid for military and control of the media.

The armaments were still pretty basic, hell they were on horses for God's sake! So, you want to imagine the millions of American's agreeing all at once to rise up with Remington .308 in hand and take on Cobra Helicopters, Psyonic weapons the police have, the armored vehicles, and such, or are we going to talk about a prolonged guerrilla war where the patriots get to be blamed for every child killed, all the disruption in business and commerce and expect to win? I cannot believe you all do not see how futile this is. Let's go for something less aggressive. Let's just put a call out for a 100 million Citizen march on Washington and our State Capitols. Let's see if we can get that to rise up. Hell, let's take it down to 30 million. Who is going to organize this uprising? When is it so I can put it on my calendar and rally support? Talk is cheap. Drake is all talk and I see nothing to back it up that has real teeth.

If you want to stop the naysaying, stop trying to push what Drake has said unless there is something with real proof. So far it's all a great story, but people are being told it's real. I do not believe it at all. I do believe there are millions who want change. I do not believe we are in any sense organized, and if a powder keg is lit it will turn into massive mayhem and crisis by nature and nurtured by the government.

[NancyV]

It was in the summer of 2010 that Tim Turner was elected the interim President of the United States. So we had a new President that 99.999% of the people heard nothing about and which changed nothing. Teri had been an avid supporter of his and was instrumental in organizing and/or supporting the Georgia part of the RAP movement. I read all her updates on the forum of the company where she and I both worked. I made a few comments in her threads about not believing that TT had the backing of the military and when I told my husband about the whole thing he said then what he says now about Drake.... that there is no way a high percentage of the military would support this. As I have stated before, my husband took an oath over 30 years ago to come when called by the group of men who were in on the contingency plans for a potential military coup if ever needed., and it would take extreme circumstances for that plan to be activated. Not what WE think of as extreme circumstances but what the military thinks of as extreme circumstances. As We-R-One has stated, TT finally had to confess that he never had the backing of the military.

Of course Drake's supporters hope he is not lying about having 90% of the military behind him but that statement seems absurd on its face because probably about half of the military vote liberal and half vote conservative. I don't think the half that voted for Obama would want to see him deposed by a military coup. US is correct that a military coup and a bloody revolution would be the only way to get the controllers out of power. If someone believed TT and finally came to realize that he was lying, why would they make the same mistake and believe another charismatic man who says the same thing.... without proof again? There is no proof that a huge percent of the military supports Drakes assertions. Everyone I know in the military has heard nothing about this. My husband just laughs when I try to explain to him what Drake says is going on. Well, he laughs along with saying a few things that I can't post, the milder being "what a bunch of effing morons!"

I don't react the same as my husband because I know that all those who support Drake...and who supported Charles...are doing so because they care. They care about what's happening in this country and the world, they want better for everyone, they have wonderful intentions. Unfortunately "hope" is something that is used to manipulate people, just as in the Obama election. It was all about "hope and change". Of course Obama turned out to be just another tool of the so called controllers. When I listen to Drake I like his voice, I like his manner because I have a husband who talks a lot like him, a hillbilly, gun toting military man... but I can't make sense of much of what he says as far as it actually answering a question. When Randy Maugans was interviewing him I thought Drake did a very poor job of answering his questions. He seems very good at deflecting answers, making the answer more complex, changing the subject, expounding on some minutiae about something irrelevant to the question and then saying something like "did that answer your question?". By that time you're so confused and caught up in a few things he said that did make sense it would be difficult to say.....sorry that was complete BS!

I've looked at all the so called documents of the "notice". Can't say that it's very impressive and as it's only a notice it holds no legal force whatsoever, as we all know. Probably it will convince some that this is legit but I can't imagine the military would be impressed with a notice to the Hague or UN or whatever. Anyone who thinks the majority of those who work in the Pentagon or anywhere else as career officers will jeopardize their retirement or careers by usurping the government at this point should rethink that assessment. You only have the words of Drake that the military is 80-90% behind this "movement". Just as with Tim Turner, there is no proof and there will be no proof until the military fails to perform as Drake says they will. I expect it will die with a whimper.

If Drake is lying I'm sure Teri will get the word out. She's not a good one to have turn against you as she's like a bulldog and won't let go, just as she did when she found out TT was lying. I almost feel sorry for Drake if he alienates Teri.

[joedjemal]

The more I look at this the flimsier it seems to get. All the information seems to be coming from a very small group of people. There's no confirmation from any other sources. It has the same sort of flavour as Charles, the GFL, Fulford and his dragons and so on. Lots of noise and no data as usual. Incoherent and inconsistent noise at that.

I'll reserve judgment for a while but I'm beginning to think rides on spaceships that fail to happen.

I certainly wouldn't take any personal risks based on what's there to date. This could well be an exercise in flushing out opposition. To be treated with great caution.

[Avocadess]

Just a heads up that I finally finished transcribing notes from the most recent interview with Drake and Randy. Part 2 of the notes are here on the thread for Drake Updates:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...nd-more/page32

I found this interview to be enlightening.

[YvonneG]

Maybe someone would like to see what real Militia folks have to say about it and Drake's plan. Unlike many of you guys, those who are skeptical are taking a wait and see attitude. Many, including the top person, is listening to Drake with caution.

Just in case anyone is interested in seeing something more than our comments here on this forum.

And it is precisely because Teri Hinkle would not be so easily fooled, as well as several whom I now know personally and were also involved in the TT republic, that I give this more credence. You know, everyone has reactions and triggers when people say certain things, esp. when you don't agree.

http://wramsite.com/forum/topics/ins...Comment1289316

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Here is an example of such a militia group in their own words. Those who are skeptical are still preparing.
http://wramsite.com/forum/topics/ins...Comment1289316

Posted by Avocadess (here)
As explained in a recent show, Drake also has the support of 1.5 million professional/trained civilian militia. Drake is the commander of that militia. Should the U.S. military turn on us, we have ground troops to go to bat for us immediately.

[NancyV]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
And it is precisely because Teri Hinkle would not be so easily fooled, as well as several whom I now know personally and were also involved in the TT republic, that I give this more credence. You know, everyone has reactions and triggers when people say certain things, esp. when you don't agree.

But Teri WAS fooled, at least for a year or two. I think it is because she is so passionate and sincere in her desire to see the government restored to the original constitution that she can be easily fooled again. Sincere and hopeful people are usually the easiest ones to manipulate. I do believe that if she's fooled again she'll be the first one to admit it.

[Alie]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
I'm getting tired reading posts from the Drake nay sayers. Have you nay sayers got any sort of plan to rid the planet of the bastards TPTB ? Lets hear it then? If not, say someting positive that can help the liberation of the people.

Stan

Or what, you'll leave the thread and start one for the Drake supporters to all get in a circle and pat each other on the back so they can bask in false hope and such of goo goo yummy energy like vampires needing a fix? I'm sick of you lollipop dreams and gummy slide fantasy people trying to tell us who see the world in a very boring and straight forward way to put on your glasses to see it as something other than what it is. It sort of reminds me of someone in the movie "They Live" telling the guy who finally sees WTF is going on to not put on those special super duper reality glasses cause the world is such a beautiful place and there are not bad people.

Now, I could have skipped saying all that, but I do feel better expressing myself, so thank you for that. I could have just said, if you dn't like our posts put us on ignore or get off the thread where we are speaking our minds. I stayed away from the Drake fanclub thread that talked about all my bullsh** excrement on threads though my name was not mentioned, I am one of the naysayers. Some world we live in where we ALL get to say our minds thoughts and not just SOME of us. Who told you to shut up or insinuated it? Not one of us. You love and light people talk about tolerance but you show little of it yourselves.l

I never threatened to do anything,. In case you haven't noticed there IS a thread for Drake supporters already, so why would I start one? That doesn't make any sense. Why do you ask me "Who told you to shut up or insinuated it?" I never said such a thing. Show us all where I said that. I am not one of the love and light people. Why do you say such a thing? Show me were I spoke about tolerance? You quote me above and yet do not address my words. You invent things I have said, and accuse me of being something I am not. You're not as clever as you think are you?

Stan

Stan
You are tirelessly keeping MANY OF US encouraged and providing good company. Who cares what OTHER PEOPLE are saying/suggesting about those of us who believe that freedom and sovereignty is moving along.

[gripreaper]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
I'll reserve judgment for a while but I'm beginning to think rides on spaceships that fail to happen.

What? You didn't believe that the Neptune mothership was going to take 100 people on a galactic joyride and pick them up in black limousines, and then plant a nuclear submarine land dart at the Washington Monument for all to see?

Why not?

[RMorgan]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
The more I look at this the flimsier it seems to get. All the information seems to be coming from a very small group of people. There's no confirmation from any other sources. It has the same sort of flavour as Charles, the GFL, Fulford and his dragons and so on. Lots of noise and no data as usual. Incoherent and inconsistent noise at that.

I'll reserve judgment for a while but I'm beginning to think rides on spaceships that fail to happen.

I certainly wouldn't take any personal risks based on what's there to date. This could well be an exercise in flushing out opposition. To be treated with great caution.

Hey Joed,

Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time? I mean, their names change, but their message is pretty much always the same, so as their strategy.

I really don´t know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

It´s all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 km² of Amazon forest...And there´s 30 more like this to come in the future!

It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why is it always about the USA? Why it´s always about financial problems?

If there´s indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I don´t buy that for a second.

This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldn´t be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

The same thing happens with channelings...It´s always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities can´t see our world in a more holistic way.

All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars aren´t about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

So wouldn´t it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

Cheers,

Raf.

[Buchanan561]

I think there is some confusion regarding where the military support idea comes from. When Drake had the first (and only?) conference with Daivd Wilcock is where the information was given to him that the military and the Pentagon were behind these efforts. This was Benjamin Fulford's story for many years that the Pentagon and Military were supportive. He have this data to David Wilcock, and from David it went to Drake it seems to me. So Drake is not saying, hopefully, that the military is behind him but is behind the starting of this which came from Fulford. From Fulford to Wilcock and from there to Drake. I cannot say that the passing it down the line was sanctioned by Fulford but some of his recent video's seem to reflect this unless my memory is going out of sinc. But anyhow......this story regarding the military did not originate with Drake, it was passed down to him through the above hands. Emma

[DreamsInDigital]

I've known about 90% of Military being behind the freedom Movement and the Pentagon planning a "house cleaning" long before Drake, Fulford or Wilcock ever mentioned a word.

@ Raff,

I think you're missing that this is as I've been saying in multiple posts now, a GLOBAL Movement. But, truth of the fact is the Financial Industry is where the Real Cabal Leaders are, and they are in US and Europe. But, things are happening all over the world, I don't in anyway think there is any connection between what the Freedom Movement and Drake is about, and the others that have come through here in the past. Generally I appriciate your well grounded and logical perspective, this time though I have to respectfully fully disagree with you. And, suggest you look at what is going on with this freedom movement and take notice of that it IS a global effort. And, the Financial Cabal (where the real control is) have to be taken down before things can be done on a more local level. Drake himself is encouraging people to get proactive locally within their own countries, cities, please just research this whole thing further before you make such assumptions. The whole planet is in the process of being Liberated, not just US. And THAT is where it has to start. The bad guys have to be removed, and then things rebuilt from the ground up.

[joedjemal]

When it comes down to it I'm just a gardener who likes to keep an eye on what's going on. I spent decades protesting and trying to get some sort of sanity in the world and met a brick wall of delusion and denial.

I've given up on trying to change others. All I can really do is change myself. If a wave of sanity turns up I'll welcome it but I'm too busy trying to create something positive to carry on banging my head against other people's world views.

Any truly effective change would seem to require the failure of existing systems and I don't need to do anything about that, they're failing on their own. I think in the end all the domination types will end up with nothing because they can only create ways of working that can't last indefinitely. The seed of their failure is in their nature. And that failure will probably, finally, wake up all those who've taken it for granted and gone along with it because that's the way things are.

I suspect the change we wish to see will be emergent rather than created. A genetic dead end is about to collide head on with reality.

[corson]

Posted by sdv (here)

I think this has been repeated many times by Drake and on this forum as well. NOTHING WAS FILED...IT WAS NOTIFICATION LIKE WHEN WE POST SOMETHING A NEWSPAPER TO NOTIFY. So this is quite irrelevant. People who keep making this point, are not listening. I for one have decided to stop answering, since my energy has to go into working in my county. NO FILING WAS DONE. SHould you want to truly understand they listen to last nights call. This doesn't mean that I believe it 100%, but I am darn close to 100%.

And you are not listening. I don't care if it was supposedly filed or notified or sent to the Moon in a bottle. That is not the issue here. (Drake keeps changing his story anyway.) Do you believe that Apostille 141 and 140 are authentic documents and proof? Do you even know what an Apostille is and for what it is used?

I have tried to explain it as simply as possible and you just do not get it. It's like holding up proof of communication with a bank about your housing loan and then saying that is proof that you are married.

It's your mind and if you refuse to use it than I hope the angels will keep you safe anyway!

any paperwork, be it a notification, a complaint, a certification, will be time stamped by the court in which the documentation is sent. this is how it is 'received' by the court. in the united states courts, it is received in the prothonotary's office. i do not know the hague official procedure (if they have what we call a prothonotary), but i am thinking that somewhere within their documentation, there will be a certified time stamped copy. this is not something that is overlooked in any official court or apostille setting. hope this helps some.
regards, corson

" » Bureau of Administration » Office of Authentications » Apostille Requirements

Hague Convention Site

Apostille Requirements

Since October 15, 1981, the United States has been part of the 1961 Hague Convention abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents (Only). The Convention provides for the simplified certification of public (including notarized) documents to be used in countries that have joined the convention. Documents destined for use in participating countries and their territories should be certified by one of the officials in the jurisdiction in which the document has been executed. Said official must have been designated as competent to issue certifications by "Apostille" (usually in the office of the State Secretary of State of his/her counterpart) as provided for by the 1961 Hague Convention.

With this certification by the Hague Convention Apostille, the document is entitled to recognition in the country of intended use, and no certification by the U.S. Department of State, Authentications Office or legalization by the embassy or consulate is required.

Documents requiring certifications with an apostille by the U.S. Department of State are those that have been signed by a federal official with the official Seal of that agency, American Consular Officer, Military Notary (10 USC 1044a) or Foreign Consul (Diplomat Officials must be registered with the Office of Protocol). Note: These documents must include the official's title and his/her signature must be legible. Please also note that the U.S. Department of State will not issue an apostille for State-issued documents.

For more information on countries participating in the 1961 Hague Convention (abolishing the requirement of legalization for foreign public documents -- Article 12) please visit"

[corson]

"apostille

Definition
Additional authentication required for international acceptance of notarized documents including (but not limited to) adoption papers, affidavits, birth certificates, contracts, death certificates, deeds, diplomas and degrees, divorce decrees, incorporation papers, marriage certificates, patent applications, powers of attorney, and school transcripts. Instituted by 'The Hague Convention Abolishing The Requirements Of Legalization For Foreign Public Documents' of 1961, its objective is obviate "the requirements of diplomatic or consular legalization" and thus replace the cumbersome 'chain authentication method' that called for verification by multiple authorities. As prescribed by the convention, an apostille (French for, notation) is a preprinted small (minimum 9 x 9 centimeters) form having ten numbered items of information with blank spaces to be filled in by the designated authority in the issuing country. It is obligatory upon every signatory country to accept apostilles of the other signatory countries."

Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...#ixzz1tHkH2cA0

regards, corson

[RMorgan]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
I've known about 90% of Military being behind the freedom Movement and the Pentagon planning a "house cleaning" long before Drake, Fulford or Wilcock ever mentioned a word.

@ Raff,

I think you're missing that this is as I've been saying in multiple posts now, a GLOBAL Movement. But, truth of the fact is the Financial Industry is where the Real Cabal Leaders are, and they are in US and Europe. But, things are happening all over the world, I don't in anyway think there is any connection between what the Freedom Movement and Drake is about, and the others that have come through here in the past. Generally I appriciate your well grounded and logical perspective, this time though I have to respectfully fully disagree with you. And, suggest you look at what is going on with this freedom movement and take notice of that it IS a global effort. And, the Financial Cabal (where the real control is) have to be taken down before things can be done on a more local level. Drake himself is encouraging people to get proactive locally within their own countries, cities, please just research this whole thing further before you make such assumptions. The whole planet is in the process of being Liberated, not just US. And THAT is where it has to start. The bad guys have to be removed, and then things rebuilt from the ground up.

I appreciate your response mate,

However, if this is indeed a Global Movement, like you say, I´m missing something here in Brazil, which is the 6° larger economy of the world and a pretty huge country.

Here, the corruption is just increasing, year after year.

Politicians that are searched by Interpol for several crimes get elected and re-elected.

Everyday a new disgusting corruption scandal pops up on TV and then it simply vanishes and no one gets punished. Really!

The economy is growing but the corruption and white collar crimes are increasing exponentially!

I haven´t seen a single little sign that some serious actions have been taken to stop these guys.

So, If it´s a Global Movement, they surely have forgotten to invite us for the party.

Cheers,

Raf.

[eyeswideopen]

Gees, living in doubt and fear are we?

[GoodeTXSG]

Geese, more of the "You are Ignorant and I am Not, I am an Intellectual Giant and You are NOT, I am evolved and YOU are NOT... I know and perceive the omniscient TRUTH and YOU do NOT... and I am Humble in my Superior Spiritual State and You are NOT!!! Will it ever stop? Well, human nature and Ego, no I guess NOT!

And this is coming from some of the people’s threads and posts I normally respect. You know who you are… just in the posts from this thread alone... but not limited to just this one.

It is the Actions and not the Words my friends. Anyone can make a clever argument or rebuttal. It is how you react to other points of view and disparaging remarks to YOURS that makes you all of the things you strive to become. That is if YOU truly ARE on an honest path to enlightenment and willing to see your own faults and evolve.

One should always seek and display Wisdom and Your Truth... "Winning" is for Charlie Sheen and his fellow “Tiger Blood” drinkers. Who ever really wins an argument anyway?