The Drake paperwork is posted - FreedomReigns

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)
Gees, living in doubt and fear are we?

No, I think it's called reality. It is not suitable for all people. For such as those, I recommend rose colored glasses, personal threads that don't allow for free thought that may upset the apple carts of those wearing the rose colored glasses.

[Snoweagle]

and broadcast to the world via a tuppeny-happeny (two and a half pence) quickie web page creation software ROFLMAO

c'mon people wake up - if these people were at all serious or even the tiniest bit professional surely they would put a web site together that reflected the magnitude of their intent.

As for content - zero, zip nada

[eyeswideopen]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)
Gees, living in doubt and fear are we?

No, I think it's called reality. It is not suitable for all people. For such as those, I recommend rose colored glasses, personal threads that don't allow for free thought that may upset the apple carts of those wearing the rose colored glasses.

reality? Suppose you explain your reality to me. I really like my rose colored glasses. Oh yeh, I don't own any apple carts which I suppose you do simply because you brought it up. Living in doubt and fear are you?

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Geese, more of the "You are Ignorant and I am Not, I am an Intellectual Giant and You are NOT, I am evolved and YOU are NOT... I know and perceive the omniscient TRUTH and YOU do NOT... and I am Humble in my Superior Spiritual State and You are NOT!!! Will it ever stop? Well, human nature and Ego, no I guess NOT!

And this is coming from some of the people’s threads and posts I normally respect. You know who you are… just in the posts from this thread alone... but not limited to just this one.

It is the Actions and not the Words my friends. Anyone can make a clever argument or rebuttal. It is how you react to other points of view and disparaging remarks to YOURS that makes you all of the things you strive to become. That is if YOU truly ARE on an honest path to enlightenment and willing to see your own faults and evolve.

One should always seek and display Wisdom and Your Truth... "Winning" is for Charlie Sheen and his fellow “Tiger Blood” drinkers. Who ever really wins an argument anyway?

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Hmmmmmm and so it continues. Tit for tat.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)
Gees, living in doubt and fear are we?

No, I think it's called reality. It is not suitable for all people. For such as those, I recommend rose colored glasses, personal threads that don't allow for free thought that may upset the apple carts of those wearing the rose colored glasses.

reality? Suppose you explain your reality to me. I really like my rose colored glasses. Oh yeh, I don't own any apple carts which I suppose you do simply because you brought it up. Living in doubt and fear are you?

I live in reality and dislike snake oil salesmen professing their syrup du jour will cure Uncle Sam's cancer when in fact it will just make his eyes glaze over in a drunken stupor. I read a lot of info on Avalon and see what people say even though I am not participating on their threads. The condescending remarks, the accusations of "You live in fear" ..... "Fear porn"..... "negative energy" are all meant to paint anyone who disagrees with the latest guru and fan club supporting them seem bad and nonspiritual, unevolved etc.. I've never been good about just keeping quite when I see a house on fire. So, I have offered lots of water and if anyone wants to partake it's available. If not, then enjoy the fire. I said the same things about others who had massive followings only to be shown in due time to be exactly what I said they were.

I've been involved in the patriot movement for over 20 years and I've seen this same thing time and again. It is nothing more than a method to keep people busy and not doing much. I do believe many are entertained and thus have gotten some value out of it.

[YvonneG]

This makes sense. And it actually states very well part of the reason I am no longer going to try to present my point of view and share with others why I believe as I do. I could be wrong and it is so important to keep an open mind as you do. I know you are not convinced about Drake and the plan, and I am more convinced then not. But I also understand that doesn't mean that it won't be so. However, people like you that, an Oathkeeper who come here with such a balanced perspective given me a lot of hope.

I have decided to spend the time and energy I have here on the County Project suggested by Anita at freedom reigns. I have been spending hours here when I could be spending them locally.

I will visit now and then to check and contribute when I have something to contribute besides going back and forth in an effort for others to at least have an open mind. I haven't don't too well because I realize I have gotten into reactions. I have apologized on one thread and NO ONE ever even commented. I realized then that there is a major disconnect for us all when we are just typing words with a language that is far from adequate.

I am especially interested in what you are contributing. My main practice is actually mindfulness and body meditation which means that those who understand just a little, know that everyone is already that Awareness. And you are so right in what you say here, and I have probably been guilty of what you say more than I have been aware.

Once more, Corey, thanks for your wisdom. This is one of the most valuable posts I have read. It is real and I can feel it. So thank you. I hope others will take it in the spirit in which you mean it.

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Geese, more of the "You are Ignorant and I am Not, I am an Intellectual Giant and You are NOT, I am evolved and YOU are NOT... I know and perceive the omniscient TRUTH and YOU do NOT... and I am Humble in my Superior Spiritual State and You are NOT!!! Will it ever stop? Well, human nature and Ego, no I guess NOT!

And this is coming from some of the people’s threads and posts I normally respect. You know who you are… just in the posts from this thread alone... but not limited to just this one.

It is the Actions and not the Words my friends. Anyone can make a clever argument or rebuttal. It is how you react to other points of view and disparaging remarks to YOURS that makes you all of the things you strive to become. That is if YOU truly ARE on an honest path to enlightenment and willing to see your own faults and evolve.

One should always seek and display Wisdom and Your Truth... "Winning" is for Charlie Sheen and his fellow “Tiger Blood” drinkers. Who ever really wins an argument anyway?

[eyeswideopen]

Thank you Unified, that is a very reasonable explaination of your belief. I have been in this patriot movement for over 40 years or so and also have seen alot of BS come and go. Vietnam was the big eye opener for me from age 19 and the 60's really did wake alot of folks up but it seemed to turn sour in the 70's and just got worse from there. To bad that crap happened. I like your comments and do believe that your eyes are open to alot. I really do see alot of people living in the fear and doubts of everyday life. It is so sad and when you have to put hip waders on everyday just to step out of your door into this fictitious world it gets tiring.

Now on to the documents. I don't pretend to know much about the legal aspects of these docs but I have researched the federalist papers and the Constitution and some real history of the founding fathers of this country and do know that the Notification is a lawful, and not legal, thing that can be done. Now I would like to discuss the difference between "lawful" and "legal" with you. It appears that there are plenty of folks that may know something about the corporate statutes, codes and such that we all are brainwashed with today but do they know what the real laws were before the corporation was created that perverted the original republic that was created in 1787-1791? I believe that is what Drake has been trying to expound on about going back to, to some degree. So in my research, there has been no real law since at least 1861, just fiction and color of law.

Thank you again.

[Alie]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
This makes sense. And it actually states very well part of the reason I am no longer going to try to present my point of view and share with others why I believe as I do. I could be wrong and it is so important to keep an open mind as you do. I know you are not convinced about Drake and the plan, and I am more convinced then not. But I also understand that doesn't mean that it won't be so. However, people like you that, an Oathkeeper who come here with such a balanced perspective given me a lot of hope.

I have decided to spend the time and energy I have here on the County Project suggested by Anita at freedom reigns. I have been spending hours here when I could be spending them locally.

I will visit now and then to check and contribute when I have something to contribute besides going back and forth in an effort for others to at least have an open mind. I haven't don't too well because I realize I have gotten into reactions. I have apologized on one thread and NO ONE ever even commented. I realized then that there is a major disconnect for us all when we are just typing words with a language that is far from adequate.

I am especially interested in what you are contributing. My main practice is actually mindfulness and body meditation which means that those who understand just a little, know that everyone is already that Awareness. And you are so right in what you say here, and I have probably been guilty of what you say more than I have been aware.

Once more, Corey, thanks for your wisdom. This is one of the most valuable posts I have read. It is real and I can feel it. So thank you. I hope others will take it in the spirit in which you mean it.

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Geese, more of the "You are Ignorant and I am Not, I am an Intellectual Giant and You are NOT, I am evolved and YOU are NOT... I know and perceive the omniscient TRUTH and YOU do NOT... and I am Humble in my Superior Spiritual State and You are NOT!!! Will it ever stop? Well, human nature and Ego, no I guess NOT!

And this is coming from some of the people’s threads and posts I normally respect. You know who you are… just in the posts from this thread alone... but not limited to just this one.

It is the Actions and not the Words my friends. Anyone can make a clever argument or rebuttal. It is how you react to other points of view and disparaging remarks to YOURS that makes you all of the things you strive to become. That is if YOU truly ARE on an honest path to enlightenment and willing to see your own faults and evolve.

One should always seek and display Wisdom and Your Truth... "Winning" is for Charlie Sheen and his fellow “Tiger Blood” drinkers. Who ever really wins an argument anyway?

Yvonne G
I feel like responding to this. I started a thread a while back about PA being a Microcosm of Some UNKNOWN Macrocosm. Having spent some extra time over the last few weeks with you and others discussing the Drake info, I can easily see that this is definitely a microcosm of something, as I thought. We have folks from everywhere, many generations represented, many viewpoints, etc. Perhaps PA is a school to find those who will be useful in service to others sometime in the future.

Having not been a part of PA when the Charles material came around, this Drake/Wilcock/Brocken??? controversy is new to me. I have not particularly enjoyed it because my motive is trying to gather as much information as I can and I'm not one that enjoys confrontation in the real world.

But what has been important during my participation, is that I've been reminded in the last few weeks that having CLASS is essential when communicating face to face or word to word. I'm thinking about the "Audrey Hepburn" kind of class --- Jimmy Stewart (loved him, hope he wasn't one of them) gentlemanly kind of class. IMO, I'd rather have class than be right, any day.

You have Class, and your graciousness and hopefulness and encouragement has been very much appreciated by many (I'm sure) that have been in this Drake discussion. So thanks!

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
This makes sense. And it actually states very well part of the reason I am no longer going to try to present my point of view and share with others why I believe as I do. I could be wrong and it is so important to keep an open mind as you do. I know you are not convinced about Drake and the plan, and I am more convinced then not. But I also understand that doesn't mean that it won't be so. However, people like you that, an Oathkeeper who come here with such a balanced perspective given me a lot of hope.

I have decided to spend the time and energy I have here on the County Project suggested by Anita at freedom reigns. I have been spending hours here when I could be spending them locally.

I will visit now and then to check and contribute when I have something to contribute besides going back and forth in an effort for others to at least have an open mind. I haven't don't too well because I realize I have gotten into reactions. I have apologized on one thread and NO ONE ever even commented. I realized then that there is a major disconnect for us all when we are just typing words with a language that is far from adequate.

I am especially interested in what you are contributing. My main practice is actually mindfulness and body meditation which means that those who understand just a little, know that everyone is already that Awareness. And you are so right in what you say here, and I have probably been guilty of what you say more than I have been aware.

Once more, Corey, thanks for your wisdom. This is one of the most valuable posts I have read. It is real and I can feel it. So thank you. I hope others will take it in the spirit in which you mean it.

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
Geese, more of the "You are Ignorant and I am Not, I am an Intellectual Giant and You are NOT, I am evolved and YOU are NOT... I know and perceive the omniscient TRUTH and YOU do NOT... and I am Humble in my Superior Spiritual State and You are NOT!!! Will it ever stop? Well, human nature and Ego, no I guess NOT!

And this is coming from some of the people’s threads and posts I normally respect. You know who you are… just in the posts from this thread alone... but not limited to just this one.

It is the Actions and not the Words my friends. Anyone can make a clever argument or rebuttal. It is how you react to other points of view and disparaging remarks to YOURS that makes you all of the things you strive to become. That is if YOU truly ARE on an honest path to enlightenment and willing to see your own faults and evolve.

One should always seek and display Wisdom and Your Truth... "Winning" is for Charlie Sheen and his fellow “Tiger Blood” drinkers. Who ever really wins an argument anyway?

Hello YvonneG,
Actually I am a member of the County Project group as well on his site... I just joined the Forum for Texas. Being a Radio Operator and Disaster Response person I hope I have some to offer if indeed things unfold as Drake predicts. If not it’s a good infrastructure backup plan for civilians. I agree with what you say above. But I am no one to judge, just make own humble observations when I feel so compelled. Thanks for the post. If you read what I posted about Drake I am not a Full Supporter or a Full Detractor of his info. My post explains it best. I have been quite disappointed at the behavior of some of the members here, but Humans will be Humans.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)
Thank you Unified, that is a very reasonable explaination of your belief. I have been in this patriot movement for over 40 years or so and also have seen alot of BS come and go. Vietnam was the big eye opener for me from age 19 and the 60's really did wake alot of folks up but it seemed to turn sour in the 70's and just got worse from there. To bad that crap happened. I like your comments and do believe that your eyes are open to alot. I really do see alot of people living in the fear and doubts of everyday life. It is so sad and when you have to put hip waders on everyday just to step out of your door into this fictitious world it gets tiring.

Now on to the documents. I don't pretend to know much about the legal aspects of these docs but I have researched the federalist papers and the Constitution and some real history of the founding fathers of this country and do know that the Notification is a lawful, and not legal, thing that can be done. Now I would like to discuss the difference between "lawful" and "legal" with you. It appears that there are plenty of folks that may know something about the corporate statutes, codes and such that we all are brainwashed with today but do they know what the real laws were before the corporation was created that perverted the original republic that was created in 1787-1791? I believe that is what Drake has been trying to expound on about going back to, to some degree. So in my research, there has been no real law since at least 1861, just fiction and color of law.

Thank you again.

I can't argue with any of what you have said here. The problem is that I am reminded of the habit of tying the lead animals legs to hobble them for a long time. The animal gets used to the hobble and will never run again. You can take off the fetters and tell them they are free, but because they are so ingrained with another reality, they will never see freedom or run as it were. The common man is so used to this system, the information is so controlled that they do not trust the wacko alternative community because well, we are portrayed as nuts and some of us don't do anything to belay that point.

There is hope for a spiritual enlightenment, but I know that will not happen overnight by anything I do. I can only choose my method of interaction moment by moment, walking the walk, and living in the truth as I know it. Most people cannot begin to imagine living as sovereigns totally responsible for themselves, and would not cope with a change to that system. We have been fettered to big brother and we have generations engrained in this lifestyle.

The one golden point of light I do see is the innate need for man to be free. Eventually, man would choose freedom rather than bondage, but if he is unaware he is in bondage does he ever see a need to be free?

[eyeswideopen]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by eyeswideopen (here)
Thank you Unified, that is a very reasonable explaination of your belief. I have been in this patriot movement for over 40 years or so and also have seen alot of BS come and go. Vietnam was the big eye opener for me from age 19 and the 60's really did wake alot of folks up but it seemed to turn sour in the 70's and just got worse from there. To bad that crap happened. I like your comments and do believe that your eyes are open to alot. I really do see alot of people living in the fear and doubts of everyday life. It is so sad and when you have to put hip waders on everyday just to step out of your door into this fictitious world it gets tiring.

Now on to the documents. I don't pretend to know much about the legal aspects of these docs but I have researched the federalist papers and the Constitution and some real history of the founding fathers of this country and do know that the Notification is a lawful, and not legal, thing that can be done. Now I would like to discuss the difference between "lawful" and "legal" with you. It appears that there are plenty of folks that may know something about the corporate statutes, codes and such that we all are brainwashed with today but do they know what the real laws were before the corporation was created that perverted the original republic that was created in 1787-1791? I believe that is what Drake has been trying to expound on about going back to, to some degree. So in my research, there has been no real law since at least 1861, just fiction and color of law.

Thank you again.

I can't argue with any of what you have said here. The problem is that I am reminded of the habit of tying the lead animals legs to hobble them for a long time. The animal gets used to the hobble and will never run again. You can take off the fetters and tell them they are free, but because they are so ingrained with another reality, they will never see freedom or run as it were. The common man is so used to this system, the information is so controlled that they do not trust the wacko alternative community because well, we are portrayed as nuts and some of us don't do anything to belay that point.

There is hope for a spiritual enlightenment, but I know that will not happen overnight by anything I do. I can only choose my method of interaction moment by moment, walking the walk, and living in the truth as I know it. Most people cannot begin to imagine living as sovereigns totally responsible for themselves, and would not cope with a change to that system. We have been fettered to big brother and we have generations engrained in this lifestyle.

The one golden point of light I do see is the innate need for man to be free. Eventually, man would choose freedom rather than bondage, but if he is unaware he is in bondage does he ever see a need to be free?

Yes you have that right. I wear my tin foil hat everyday and so many people either run from me or give me dirty looks. They really don't realize that they are slaves to the system and if you try to tell them different they may just beat you up or even kill you. We will surely not change that overnight. I for one am glad that there are more and more folks waking up to help make that change tho. I do believe that Drake is one of those but like alot of folks I am not totally convinced yet and am like all that are very discerning about anything that comes along today. I do try to keep my eyes open to what is happening around. My better half has always said " you are just trading one set of politics for another" She is very smart in that regard.

Glad to know you better, Thanks for responding to my stumble bum way of getting to know you more. Look forward to more discourse with you.


Love transcends all

[Avocadess]

I for one will miss you, YvonneG. You have been one of the reasons I have continued to return.

[Unified Serenity]

YOur welcome Eyeswideopen.... hmmm can I call you EWO?

I find most of us on Avalon are probably a lot more alike than we are different, but we have certain general traits. Some of you all are just a lot nicer in some ways than I am, and in other ways a lot less tolerant than I am, but I bet at a cook out we would have a lot of fun. No tofu for me though... ick. It is a lot nicer to have the recent discourse than what sometimes develops....

http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tv_sound...ow_you_are.wav

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
YOur welcome Eyeswideopen.... hmmm can I call you EWO?

I find most of us on Avalon are probably a lot more alike than we are different, but we have certain general traits. Some of you all are just a lot nicer in some ways than I am, and in other ways a lot less tolerant than I am, but I bet at a cook out we would have a lot of fun. No tofu for me though... ick. It is a lot nicer to have the recent discourse than what sometimes develops....

http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tv_sound...ow_you_are.wav

Throw some shrimp on the BBQ and we can all hang out and have one heck of a fun conversation.

[sdv]

You say it so well ...

When I listen to Drake I like his voice, I like his manner because I have a husband who talks a lot like him, a hillbilly, gun toting military man... but I can't make sense of much of what he says as far as it actually answering a question. When Randy Maugans was interviewing him I thought Drake did a very poor job of answering his questions. He seems very good at deflecting answers, making the answer more complex, changing the subject, expounding on some minutiae about something irrelevant to the question and then saying something like "did that answer your question?". By that time you're so confused and caught up in a few things he said that did make sense it would be difficult to say.....sorry that was complete BS!

With all the talk aboout mind control and so on you would think that people on this forum would be more savvy in spotting when they are being manipulated. Doesn't mean Drake is not a nice guy. Maybe he just wants some attention and he has always been good at spinning a yarn.

[DreamsInDigital]

Or maybe Drake is actually telling the truth and this global freedom movement really IS happening.

Why do some people demand paper work, and then insist that isn't any real proof when it's provided? Why do people demand proof of arrest being made (I've seen so many say they will believe when the arrest start or paperwork is provided) and then turn around and insist when there is evidence provided and say "that's not proof!" Why ask for evidence and proof if people are not going to take the evidence and proof when it's provided? I've really come to figure out, there are some people all the evidence in the world would never be enough because they can't break through their Cabal Programming to See The Forest For The Trees, even when it's standing right infront of them. There are just some, no amount of evidence, even fully indisputable evidence, will ever be enough for.

Real Paper work has been provided, real arrest have been started, and yet those that claim they'll believe when they see paperwork or arrest start have completely re-nagged on their word, so what can people not honor their word anymore? What happen to Self Respect? Or, Honoring one's word and standing by it? So, now that paper work is being provided and arrest are starting, I say those people either get behind this freedom movement like they said they would or come up with a better idea of how we can fix this or quit squawking.

[sdv]

A last sober post, for those who are still listening to reason.

Hands up those who have actually lived through a liberation struggle, overthrow of regime, new constitution.

Guess what - my hand is up.

What I have seen over and over again is that when you abandon reason and compassion, and when you make yourself judge and jury arbitrarily, and when you you make statements and accusations without basis in fact to people who have abandoned intelligent thinking, then a horrible thing happens. People end up getting burned alive, beaten to deat and so on by angry mobs.

Please be careful.

Educate yourselves. What you want can be achieved, but not by Drake and David Wilcock and not in their way.

Now, I have to go and protest against a bill that if passed will allow my government to declare anything at any level a state secret (so that they can hide their corruption - I hear you Raf and know just what you are saying). Of course the bill will be made law but I will protest anyway!

[aranuk]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
YOur welcome Eyeswideopen.... hmmm can I call you EWO?

I find most of us on Avalon are probably a lot more alike than we are different, but we have certain general traits. Some of you all are just a lot nicer in some ways than I am, and in other ways a lot less tolerant than I am, but I bet at a cook out we would have a lot of fun. No tofu for me though... ick. It is a lot nicer to have the recent discourse than what sometimes develops....

http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tv_sound...ow_you_are.wav

US then why do you create so many differences? Try and create bonds between us all. If we all agreed on the important things we could shake hands with each other and the slight differences of opinion would be a welcoming thing would it not. I may say that I would enjoy your company more than any of my neighbours in the street where I live. If we were really face to face we would probably hug each other when we departed. No?

Stan

[aranuk]

In fact I would be able to say such things as Anunaki, ET's, Cabal, TPTW, the Bush family bastards, the ****ing Queen, the greys, even David Icke, and lots of other things. I would get strange looks from my neighbours but not from you, one of my pals. We would hug.

Stan

If you lived nearby you and I would be good friends Christina.

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks for your thoughts Stan, you are probably correct. I have a very large problem with deception, liars, and charlatans. I have seen a lot of them, and sadly quite a few come through our community looking to be the next "Star"! I am dumbfounded by how quickly people line up to hear their prognostications after their introduction and they share some information that they can do "X" and they are in communication with "X" group that none of us are in contact with and could not possible verify the veracity of their words. Their arrival is like a comet shooting past and sometimes it's just someone seeking attention, but other times it's someone seeking an audience to join them on some magical quest. I have watched friends get caught up with characters like this to the demise of their personal relationships all to someone's charisma.

It's like they cast a glamour spell and I happen to have anti-spell powder all over me and everyone sees a shining prince and all I see is a wart covered toad. So, I say the emperor has no clothes and the masses are aghast. Can't I see his beautiful robes? I ask them to bring one to me and they cannot for they are the Emperors robes and must not be touched. I put up a mirror on the sides and behind him, and get yelled at for painting a rude picture when in fact I have only revealed the truth as I see it, he has no clothes!

So, my quest for facts, proof, and verification that is not dependent on the popular "Who to go to club" who basically circularly verifies everything about each other and because they have lots of fans and wishful thinkers they get repeated over and over so it must be true because so many people said it, but the emperor still has no clothes is all I can see and I feel my friends are being betrayed. My friends whom I care about are being lied to and told an amazing story which cannot be proven and you cannot prove a negative so when I am questioned all I can say is, "The emperor has no clothes" while I dash their dreams and fantasies. I must be a masochist because I cannot tell a lie to make you happy. I cannot entertain wishful thinking when I see a terrible storm coming, and I cannot help but feel the pied piper is leading my friends off to the sea.