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    Hey folks,

    Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

    Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

    Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

    I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

    Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

    For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

    Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 kmē of Amazon forest...And thereīs 30 more like this to come in the future!

    It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

    So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why itīs always about the USA? Why itīs always about financial problems?

    If thereīs indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

    Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

    How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I donīt buy that for a second.

    This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldnīt be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

    The same thing happens with channelings...Itīs always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities canīt see our world in a more holistic way.

    All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

    Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

    Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars arenīt about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

    So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

    I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

    These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

    We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

    Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

    Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

    We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Great post RM.

    99% of the alternative media focuses on the internal schizzle of the western world or how those policies impact another country.

    Over the last 2 years I've slowly come to the conclusion that there is no one controlling force (Annunaki, Illuminati etc.), but a pattern of disinformation on the US and Europe.
    Russia and the Islam fundamental states seem to perpetrate or magnify conspiracies through media such as Al-jazeera, Russia Today and PressTv.

    Documentation already came to light that Russia planned to use conspiracy theories such as the moon landings and JFK assassinations against the USA.
    The 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' was another such document.
    I feel this is still going on today and members of the alternative community may be agents (knowingly or not).

    So yes, we should be careful wanting martial law, mass arrests etc. because they are the hallmarks of fascism and socialism.

    (And I haven't forgotten about the BBC either)

    This article is worth a read too;
    Russian propaganda

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    I don't understand this point of view.

    The New World Order is a global force that controls most countries. They are also in control of Denmark, danish media and politicians etc.

    Since US is their favorite toy at the moment they use for global enslavement, the battle is concentrated in the US.

    We have to work together worldwide to defeat the NWO.

    The New World Order explained by themselves:


    Their manipulation guide:
    http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/

    Sun Tzu - The Art of War:
    "If you know the enemy
    and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a
    hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy,
    for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
    If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
    succumb in every battle."
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    this new film should be a big hit in India:

    "Thus, the task is not so much to see what no one yet has seen, but to think what nobody yet has thought about that which everybody sees."
    — Arthur Schopenhauer

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    Dear MMA_FAN,

    Please tell us (me) more about the Russia conspiracies against the EU and the States.
    I am lost here. It's everyone's knowledge that the States try (and do) circle Russia with the nukes.
    The States is the most aggressive and brutal force in the world right now, so I am lost here.
    Please give me more information that the RT provides unsupported info.
    Enlighten me, seriously.

    Thank you,

    Nickolai

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    Quote Posted by Nickolai (here)
    Dear MMA_FAN,

    Please tell us (me) more about the Russia conspiracies against the EU and the States.
    I am lost here. It's everyone's knowledge that the States try (and do) circle Russia with the nukes.
    The States is the most aggressive and brutal force in the world right now, so I am lost here.
    Please give me more information that the RT provides unsupported info.
    Enlighten me, seriously.

    Thank you,

    Nickolai
    Russia is a strong force against NWO. I really love RT!

    I think Putin is one of the good guys. Notice he does not show the Satanic handsign as King of Jordan:

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey folks,

    Iīve just posted it as a reply on another thread, but I think I have an important point here, that could lead to a interesting debate.

    Thereīs always a hot alternative personality attracting a lot of attention here. Every couple of months, their names change, but they all have interesting theories and bold claims. Many of them share very similar views and ideas.

    Do you know what really worries me about this alternative personalities that appear here from time to time?

    I really donīt know if they are saying the truth or not, but all of them are so centered in USA specific problems, that for me it looks very suspicious.

    Itīs all about the USA, every news, every claim, while, in fact, we have so many huge problems to be fixed all over the world, but no one talks about it.

    For instance, Brazilian government just approved a new forest code/law, that will allow farmers to literally tear down the Amazon forest....

    Also, they are building a new hydro-electric plant in Amazon, that will flood an area of 516 kmē of Amazon forest...And thereīs 30 more like this to come in the future!

    It sounds like a huge problem for me, that will indeed affect the whole planet!

    So why these guys only talk about arresting bankers and criminals, while we have huge, if not bigger problems to deal with right now? Why itīs always about the USA? Why itīs always about financial problems?

    If thereīs indeed an organization so powerful as the White Dragons, White Hats or whatever, fighting against tyranny and corruption, why their strategies are so limited and narrowed down to a single country and its problems?

    Now, as a Brazilian, I can just talk about Brazil, but I can imagine that a lot of other countries have similar huge problems that can affect the whole world and need to be dealt with asap.

    How about the so called cabal or TBTP? Do you believe for a second that they are so stupid, that they would concentrate their powers and operations in a single country? I donīt buy that for a second.

    This looks very suspicious for me. Since the US is the champion of counter intel strategies, I wouldnīt be surprised if it is the US Government who is spreading this "news" around the alternative media for a purpose, since these news are so targeted to US citizens.

    The same thing happens with channelings...Itīs always about the US. Seems like even the ETs or other mystical entities canīt see our world in a more holistic way.

    All of it looks very strange to me. Do you know when you fish, and you have different kinds of baits for different fish species? It looks like they are trying to fish US citizens, and made delicious red and white striped baits specifically tailored to them.

    Lets assume, for instance, that a civil war starts in the US and all those civilian militias try to take over the power.

    Do you have any doubt that the US government would win this war, with all their high-tech weapons and resources? Of course they would! Wars arenīt about guns anymore. They have jets, armed drones and a lot of deadly stuff that kill a lot of people with just a press of a button.

    So wouldnīt it be the perfect excuse to proclaim an official fascist dictatorship and send every "subversive" citizen to these FEMA camps that, by the way, are already there?

    I think that we have to be careful to what we wish. Before wishing something, we have to make sure this wish is rightfully ours, not brainwashed into our minds.

    These mass arrests, secret society fighting for justice themes are getting spread by so many different persons right now, that Iīm starting to question if someone is just trying to force these ideas into our heads.

    We have to question more. What if these mass arrests happen? Who is going to replace them? What kind of financial system will be implemented? Would it actually be better than the actual system, or would it be worse? Would we have more freedom, or would we have a much worse kind of slavery?

    Could it all be just another step into the so feared new world order? Could we be walking into a trap, believing we are walking into a wonderful new world?

    Well, by the strategic point of view, itīs a pretty good strategy.

    We must remember that the world is the way it is today, because people wished for it. People wished to have all sorts of useless and superfluous things. People wished more and more, the wishes were granted and we ended up here in this mess.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    foreverfan,

    If it wasn't for the US Patriots, we would already have a chip up in our ass!

    Thank you guys for being the Nr. 1 force against the NWO!


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    RMorgan makes a good point. This is a world problem not just a US problem..
    I have heard many whistleblowers only speak of what's happening in the US. What about the rest of us?

    I certainly don't know what is the latest news in Brazil or any other part of the world but here in the UK.
    This is where RMorgan is gonna start a new thread called latest world news. And we're all expected to report from all over about what's going on..
    RMorgan.. is this OK with you? Thanks

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    Well Raf, I see the US just as a petri disc. We have a lot of huge
    problems all over the world today. There are two things that must
    happen. An economic collapse, without any other economic system
    taking over and the total collapse of mind as such. Mind has started
    collapsing, among those who are ripe for it and can handle this.
    For the rest of it to collapse it seems like necessary to collapse the
    economy. These happenings will make all those crazy projects
    worldwide useless and of no value.
    If this wont happen we can look forward to an existense without
    any higher functions like those "rumpnissar" in the video below.
    They are just confused,full of questionings and no conclusions,
    almost like people with alzheimers.
    Maybe not so bad if we get there, but getting there might be painful.




    https://youtube.com/watch?v=GEKmj...eature=related


    All is well


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    Good Point RMorgan. If I may elaborate. The reason why The Corporation Of The United States of LaLa Land seem to be involved firstly is because they patrol the world. And are backed by the corporate dark sided entitities. Known as Black, Hidden or Secret Ops. There are over 800 military bases scattered around the globe. Its that simple. They have there rotten and clammy hands into everything.. Eventually its gonna bite them in their greedy fat asses. And i cant wait. Karmas gonna be a bitch. This im sure of. This place is giving me the creeps to say the least.
    People here in America walk around like Zombies. Theres some hope......As the children of the sun begin to awake. Consciousness is Everything! And Its time to turn this hijacked ship around and head to home port at Godspeed.


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    The Global Elite plan to entrap the worlds population into perpetual debt by destroying the planet and taxing the basic elements
    Earth - all land belongs to the Queen under the UN
    Wind - weather control
    Fire - carbon taxes, energy debt
    Water - destroying global water tables and building huge aquifers by damming or flooding quality agricultural regions
    Ether - HAARP, scalar energy
    The Global Elite are even destroying the oceans; the French continuously discharge hundreds of spent nuclear fuel rods in the oceans, the Swiss shareholders of BP successfully destroyed the Gulf of Mexico as a food source, South China seas, North sea, the list is endless.
    Same can be said through every country in Africa and pretty much every damn country listed at the UN.

    And we appear powerless to stop them

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Good Point RMorgan. If I may elaborate. The reason why The Corporation Of The United States of LaLa Land seem to be involved firstly is because they patrol the world. And are backed by the corporate dark sided entitities. Known as Black, Hidden or Secret Ops. There are over 800 military bases scattered around the globe. Its that simple. They have there rotten and clammy hands into everything.. Eventually its gonna bite them in their greedy fat asses. And i cant wait. Karmas gonna be a bitch. This im sure of. This place is giving me the creeps to say the least.
    People here in America walk around like Zombies. Theres some hope......As the children of the sun begin to awake. Consciousness is Everything! And Its time to turn this hijacked ship around and head to home port at Godspeed.


    W.f.

    Hi my friend,

    Weīre full of zombies here as well mate. People here are becoming so stupid, so fast, that an average intelligent guy is often considered a genius.

    I guess "zombification" is the new sign of "development".

    You know, I work at home, home office style. I donīt even like to go to the streets anymore. It give me the creeps as well.

    Whenever I need to get out, I do what I have to do as quickly as possible and go back home fast.

    Itīs the TV man...Iīm sure itīs the TV. Whenever I watch five minutes of it, I already feel my brain getting dumber!

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Quote Hi my friend,

    Weīre full of zombies here as well mate. People here are becoming so stupid, so fast, that an average intelligent guy is often considered a genius.

    I guess "zombification" is the new sign of "development".

    You know, I work at home, home office style. I donīt even like to go to the streets anymore. It give me the creeps as well.

    Whenever I need to get out, I do what I have to do as quickly as possible and go back home fast.

    Itīs the TV man...Iīm sure itīs the TV. Whenever I watch five minutes of it, I already feel my brain getting dumber!

    Cheers,

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    Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
    unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
    This is the highest goals today. Voila

    I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
    in the zombies a""es. LOL


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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
    unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
    This is the highest goals today. Voila

    I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
    in the zombies a""es. LOL


    All is well


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    It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

    I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.

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    Quote Posted by Neptun (here)
    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
    unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
    This is the highest goals today. Voila

    I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
    in the zombies a""es. LOL


    All is well


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    It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

    I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.
    I live 8 km from a city, along a big road, so please dont speak of
    swedish ödemark, if you dont know wot youre speaking about.
    Im sure if the economy collapses, the zombies wont be in the cities and
    die. I will have a couple of hundred in my garden eating carrots from
    the lands. Feel free to feel sorry for whosoever you like. Projected
    selfpityness is easily detected. If sth like an economic collapse wont
    happen, they will turn to mummies in front of their TV sets ie their
    "weapons of massdeception." But of course you can wish for anything
    you like, wishing wont cost you anything.


    All is well


    Jorr 2.0
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    I believe even in the alternative media we are lied to, I agree we are dealing with some extremely intelligent bastards here, that have anything but our best interest in mind, and we should know they are penetrating every aspect of our current reality. I remain hopeful...I have too, I believe there has been enough consistent information from many different sources that have nothing to do with one and other, that even if 30% of the good info is true, its some damn good stuff. Is it possible TPTB/W have thought this thing through more than I can imagine? , but I remain hopeful, and am working on myself...

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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Quote Posted by Neptun (here)
    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Zombification, good label. Working as hell, buying all
    unnecessary things, spending your free hours in the TV sofa.
    This is the highest goals today. Voila

    I do hope the economy collapse asap. That will be like a torch
    in the zombies a""es. LOL


    All is well


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    It's easy for you to say when you are having fun out in nowhere on a svensk ödemark. But what if 100.000 hungry TV zombie swedes pay you a visit? They will not all be in the city and die.

    I feel sorry for all those TV zombies and don't want to see them hurt.
    I live 8 km from a city, along a big road, so please dont speak of
    swedish ödemark, if you dont know wot youre speaking about.
    Im sure if the economy collapses, the zombies wont be in the cities and
    die. I will have a couple of hundred in my garden eating carrots from
    the lands. Feel free to feel sorry for whosoever you like. Projected
    selfpityness is easily detected. If sth like an economic collapse wont
    happen, they will turn to mummies in front of their TV sets ie their
    "weapons of massdeception." But of course you can wish for anything
    you like, wishing wont cost you anything.


    All is well


    Jorr 2.0
    I don't feel self pity. I will survive this. I will move to a forest if I had to. I have already studied surviving skills. If I die, it will not matter. I don't fear death. I know my soul is eternal and I will reunion with my family on the other side, before I get a new body,

    What ever happens. Nothing to fear.

    I feel sorry for those that are not prepared and don't know what to do. I can feel how it must feel like. I don't want that to happen to them.

    If you don't feel compassion for them. That will be fine with me. At least it is honest.
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    Well where still waiting for the mass arrest to be almost finished. Since it's not even started there is a long why to go.

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