Change of heart regarding Drake/Wilcock/Fulford and The Plan

[NancyV]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I have all the observation I need, it had nothing to do with talk, it was KNOWING what I was seeing. David is easily manipulated. Put him together with a more dominant personality like Drakes and what would you get? David will become Drake's bitch.

If I want to get out of prison, I seek those who have already escaped it. Did they talk their way out?

Talk is cheap. When these things we talk about are expressed through us, when you are making water out of whine, then I have some evidence. Quit telling me and show me something.

Thus far all I have is what David has thus far shown me. He's weak. The strongest strategy in the world cannot be executed by the weak. Through all the 15 minute wonders that have passed through this forum I have not seen anything but talk and empty promises and notarized papers and motions. I know what those are, and they absolutely meaningless. "I have a petition to the judge to make a request of the judge so the judge can hear me talk more'.

Same old way of doing things. .

I'm not impressed. Am I showing you how unimpressed I am?

Awesome rant, 9eagle9!! I REALLY got how unimpressed you are! LOL... After the remark you made about David as Drake's bitch I couldn't stop laughing. I enjoyed your entire rant. It was powerful and so true!

I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

[Paul]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

Let me set this scene:

Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. ...

You left out a couple of bits of more realistic detail.

• What if, in your story, the prisoners are being informed of this by someone speaking into a bullhorn, easily heard by all, both prisoner and guards?
• What if part of the story claims that the majority of the guards are on the side of the prisoners?
• What if the self-proclaimed leaders of the escape claim to have been working the plan in secret for 30 years (all the while it is well known that all communications between prisoners are closely monitored) ?

It starts to sounds a little bit dubious with these details.

[Unified Serenity]

Hey busymom,

I think he is providing information on various areas and their plus and minus factors. He is basically saying get out of city centers, stay away for highways in crisis, and avoid grouping or making a noticeable safety zone. I think whether people like his views or not, that Skousen sees a survival approach as do as much as you can to be self sufficient, don't have a large gathering, and don't make yourself a target. Stay under the radar, and do the best with where you are or can get to in an emergency. For those who cannot get to point A and need to be near one particular area, he gives his point of view on how to best survive in that area.

I know what you mean about the future flood maps shown on various websites that are based off of visions people have had where the great lakes dump down and wipe out a large section of the land locked states. I have read some of skousens works, listened to him, and I think he is a strict realist as in what we know about places, what we know about the population in that area, and how many reacts in crisis. If some want to take a spiritual approach and just believe that they can sit and twiddle their thumbs and God will provide, then that is fine too. We each have to be at peace with our own decisions and those come by our own understanding.

Some people do not believe in reading anything. They say, "God will guide me" and they have no interest in how this group or that group works. They are going to simply live their life as their spirit is lead, and that's fine as well. I never discuss things with people like that because we approach the world from a different angle. I think they worry a lot less than I do about the future.

[justoneman]

For anyone who may be interested - I have updated my original post to include an About me section - I will also update my Heart Position in an edit sometime later today - I will inform those who are interested in this thread when I do so justone

[xbusymom]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Hey busymom,

I think he is providing information on various areas and their plus and minus factors. He is basically saying get out of city centers, stay away for highways in crisis, and avoid grouping or making a noticeable safety zone. I think whether people like his views or not, that Skousen sees a survival approach as do as much as you can to be self sufficient, don't have a large gathering, and don't make yourself a target. Stay under the radar, and do the best with where you are or can get to in an emergency. For those who cannot get to point A and need to be near one particular area, he gives his point of view on how to best survive in that area.

I know what you mean about the future flood maps shown on various websites that are based off of visions people have had where the great lakes dump down and wipe out a large section of the land locked states. I have read some of skousens works, listened to him, and I think he is a strict realist as in what we know about places, what we know about the population in that area, and how many reacts in crisis. If some want to take a spiritual approach and just believe that they can sit and twiddle their thumbs and God will provide, then that is fine too. We each have to be at peace with our own decisions and those come by our own understanding.

Some people do not believe in reading anything. They say, "God will guide me" and they have no interest in how this group or that group works. They are going to simply live their life as their spirit is lead, and that's fine as well. I never discuss things with people like that because we approach the world from a different angle. I think they worry a lot less than I do about the future.

I may have to get the book and pour through it- and see what I conclude... the interview does make some awfully good realistic points about being prepared, tho.

[Mad Hatter]

Mad Hatter dons his cynics cap...

Well Justoneman, welcome to what is currrently considered the darkside (be patient)... if you ever need a really good giggle just browse some of the stuff expressed in 'da rulas of da wurld' threads for a fine example of how to purposefully distract purportedly intelligent beings !!

IIRC Queen lizzy (and others) involved in this situation hold what are termed 'liens' and if that is really the case then for anyone who undertsands the implications of those it becomes blatantly obvious this whole thing is a psyop or to put it more bluntly pure BS.

Going to put the whole system back on a precious metals backed basis. Hmm... so who has control over said precious metals if not TPTB and how is it intended to wrest back that control since they also control the guns? Start a war? How original...NOT !!

Has anyone got a link to the records of the international court(s) regarding this stuff and not some PDF full of crap that any fool could post to the web. Or have we all reached that stage of political correctness where asking for proof of extraordinary claims has become frowned upon as seems to be the case with the current lot of trenchers (er I mean channelers)

The lamestream mejia maybe under a tight leash but stuff of this magnitude being supressed worldwide for what, six odd months now...m'kay if y'all say so...

Same goes for those blathering on about resurrecting constitutions... go and look up up the legal definition of 'constitutor' then sit and have a good hard think about it. Could be a light bulb moment in it for some or a boeing through registered airspace for others...

I also have to seriously doubt the mental faculties of anyone who thinks attempting to drag the owners of the court system through their own courts has even a remote hope of getting off the ground... unless of course you misguidedly think justice before the law has anything remotely to do with justice....

Factually verifiable is the issue of new nuclear fuel rods sitting in a Fukishima cooling tank that is about to undergo catastrophic failure and the subsequent issues surrounding that but Wilcock et al are barking up this tree. Lets all carp on about a new money system while half the world is about to undergo another Chernobyl type poisoning... nothing like getting your priorities right there Davo.

So while we all seem to be enjoying the distraction being presented by the left hand does anyone have a grip on what the right hand is currently doing??

Or better yet the hidden hand.... oops silly me this is all about the hidden hand isn't it. The one doing all the rod walloping... meh.

[Unified Serenity]

You are waxing eloquently Mad hatter, please do continue with your thoughts, I know you stopped out of propriety's sake, but I would like to hear some more common sense. Ever care for a chat?

My skype is unified.serenity

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

Let me set this scene:

Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. ...

You left out a couple of bits of more realistic detail.

• What if, in your story, the prisoners are being informed of this by someone speaking into a bullhorn, easily heard by all, both prisoner and guards?
• What if part of the story claims that the majority of the guards are on the side of the prisoners?
• What if the self-proclaimed leaders of the escape claim to have been working the plan in secret for 30 years (all the while it is well known that all communications between prisoners are closely monitored) ?

It starts to sounds a little bit dubious with these details.

But the point (I obviously did not make) was not about Drake's group. I was responding to 9eagle9's declaration of personal independence. I see it as different than the other layers. Add one million more individuals that declare personal freedom and sovereignty, and the genocide and ecocide will still continue. Add a billion more, and it will still continue. At some point the genocide and ecocide becomes VERY personal - we in the USA forget that we are free to not give a sh!t about anyone else on the planet, and don't even have to look at the dead bodies on the evening news. But, the dead bodies still pile up. You can ignore the genocide and ecocide as a dull, selfish, fearful person, or you can ignore the genocide and ecocide as a brilliant, shining person without fear, and with full personal freedom and sovereignty - either way, you, the individual, have done nothing to tear down the big prison, to stop the genocide and ecocide.

It is a different problem. It is too simplistic to say that a declaration of personal freedom (or even full-on personal enlightenment) answers all questions and repairs all problems. A declaration of personal freedom will not slow down or stop the plans and the actions of the Dark Cabal bastards, and so (to me) it is not enough.

Dennis

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

Let me set this scene:

Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. ...

You left out a couple of bits of more realistic detail.

• What if, in your story, the prisoners are being informed of this by someone speaking into a bullhorn, easily heard by all, both prisoner and guards?
• What if part of the story claims that the majority of the guards are on the side of the prisoners?
• What if the self-proclaimed leaders of the escape claim to have been working the plan in secret for 30 years (all the while it is well known that all communications between prisoners are closely monitored) ?

It starts to sounds a little bit dubious with these details.

I think the point of the prison metaphor was to reinforce the idea that yes, there are some situations that are beyond our present ability to control without some form of help. The idea being to counteract the meme that somehow we as individuals acting separately and in disorganized fashion would ever be able to mount the collective effort needed to fix the big picture situation. If we as individuals all became of one mind, and one will, I.E. millions of physical bodies with the same mind controlling them all, then yes, we could fix the problem with personal responsibility alone.

The issue is, my personal responsibility or lack thereof does not change my neighbors and until we all collectively can organize that makes it an ineffective strategy to guarantee victory. So I don't think it was meant as much to specifically correlate to the Drake situation as to provide the context to understand how some individuals can be placed in a situation where yes, there really may not be any hope of outside escape unless someone from the outside helps somehow. So it would not be irresponsible for the prisoners, in their suffering, to wish for help as would otherwise be suggested.

[Fred Steeves]

Gotta tip my hat to you justoneman,you've got balls of iron brother. I highly respect that.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[Kimberley]

I like this guy JonnyDontPlay on youtube. I talked with him for a while a month ago. I just found this video today and thought this was a good place to post it.

I do not agree with several of his points (as is the case with everyone)..however he has interesting points to ponder. I appreciate all perspectives, always have, always will.

Much love!

This was posted April 14th 19 minutes

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcxEaDGCz8Q

[another bob]

Posted by NancyV (here)
I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

Hello, Friends!

I will not normally get involved in these types of threads, but I'm a big fan of Nancy's, so today when I was perusing the subjects that appear to dominate folk's attention lately, and saw her comments here, I was reminded of why she rings the bell-- she rocks, she's been there, and has come back to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk, so I'm just bumping her comments here, which are straight to the point, and crystal clear.

[Carmody]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by NancyV (here)
I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

Hello, Friends!

I will not normally get involved in these types of threads, but I'm a big fan of Nancy's, so today when I was perusing the subjects that appear to dominate folk's attention lately, and saw her comments here, I was reminded of why she rings the bell-- she rocks, she's been there, and has come back to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk, so I'm just bumping her comments here, which are straight to the point, and crystal clear.

Yes, It's an OOO thing. Order Of operations.

First a general awareness. (ieee..big problems, I'm scared!)

Then, the emotions. (I'm scared! The bastards!)

Then the calming of emotions. (WTF am I freaking out about? or for?)

Rumination. (Gotta think..gotta think, dammit! What the hell does 'I' mean, anyway?)

Then...Finally,...emergent clarity. (ah..this one 'gets it' now)

(There is a constant flow of overlap in these aspects)

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by NancyV (here)
If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight ...

Hi Nancy,

This is one of the points I'm trying to make. Define "us." Just you? (and husband) If you have children, grandchildren, elderly members of the family that can't effectively fight, do you fight for them? Other family members - do you fight with them? If you see the battle brought to your loved ones, do you stand silently, let them fight their own battle, knowing it's just a ride? Neighbors? Community members... why not humanity? Where's the line?

They DID bring the battle to us, depending on how you define "us."

Dennis
p.s. I'm not really talking about Drake here, but the bigger picture.

{edit} and on third thought... it appears as if I am passing a note at the end of a bayonet. Unintended. The question is not quite rhetorical, but also not aimed solely at Nancy. A question about where each of us see our 'sphere' - not only of current influence, but also of potential influence. Could we, should we, try to positively influence humanity or not? Could we, should we try to help defend humanity from predators or not?

[9eagle9]

I didn't say you were unreasonable I said manipulating my agreement isn't going to help you get your way , and neither will ordering me. I can't change your mind, you can change your mind.

It is unworkable, its demonstrated over and over and again. That's how systems work. Your sound system, the political system, your physical systems--they all do the same thing over and over again. Your going into just another system.

go to a forum, talk a lot etcetera etcetera etcetera. What changed.

Nothing.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Yes please come back and ask again when you think you can lever and emotionally manipulate my agreement.

Don't do it before you're certain.

Please understand you may not 'get your way'.

Stamping your foot and ordering me to do my chores won't help either.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
XBusyMom: Those are predictably enough the words a co-dependent uses when one doesn't agree with their world view. The spill over erupts here, "Someone isn't agreeing with me!!"

I'm not helping these people, I've made that pretty clear. Didn't I make that absolutely clear?

To be VERY VERY clear....I'm not helping.

Got it?

Are we very clear and I shouldn't expect another order to 'go help'.

What sort of fantasy land are you in that I can express a page long criticism based on my knowledge, not what was spoon fed to me, and you think that I'm reasonably just going to toddle off and help them because you ordered me to?

Lol.

Don't ask for my help. If I needed anymore evidence for the point I conveyed, yours is it.



WHY would Drake and Wilcocks need my tantrumy old help?

Just whore out to any old person that comes along regardless if there is no agreement to their strategy at all.

That about sums it up. That demonstrates plenty on it's own.

Ummm.. nevermind... I can see you are still in the midst of your meltdown.

oh, so you think I should change my mind and do what you tell me to because the unreasonable person is ME??????? (who is the one continuing to rant and rave about 'everybody needs to abandon this stuff' just because YOU think it is unworkable?)

I did not ORDER you to DO anything... you posed a question as to why Drake (and company) was not inviting others to participate in The Plan - and I provided the counter-point that he [they] HAD...

[9eagle9]

Nancy,

Heaven doesn't want you and hell is afraid you'll take over.

(grin)

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I have all the observation I need, it had nothing to do with talk, it was KNOWING what I was seeing. David is easily manipulated. Put him together with a more dominant personality like Drakes and what would you get? David will become Drake's bitch.

If I want to get out of prison, I seek those who have already escaped it. Did they talk their way out?

Talk is cheap. When these things we talk about are expressed through us, when you are making water out of whine, then I have some evidence. Quit telling me and show me something.

Thus far all I have is what David has thus far shown me. He's weak. The strongest strategy in the world cannot be executed by the weak. Through all the 15 minute wonders that have passed through this forum I have not seen anything but talk and empty promises and notarized papers and motions. I know what those are, and they absolutely meaningless. "I have a petition to the judge to make a request of the judge so the judge can hear me talk more'.

Same old way of doing things. .

I'm not impressed. Am I showing you how unimpressed I am?

Awesome rant, 9eagle9!! I REALLY got how unimpressed you are! LOL... After the remark you made about David as Drake's bitch I couldn't stop laughing. I enjoyed your entire rant. It was powerful and so true!

I do not live my life feeling like I'm a slave or I'm imprisoned. Of course someone can hurt or kill my body while it's my vehicle here in 3D, but "I" am free. In fact everyone is free. Perhaps we humans need to get to the point of feeling so enslaved that we are forced to finally understand that actual freedom is only within. The body/vehicle can be manipulated by others, but the driver of the vehicle is free. They can't take away that freedom. Only we can do it to ourselves... and we love to fool ourselves by thinking we are slaves. It must be a fun game and it's so nice not to have to be responsible, to have someone else to blame... but I'm not buying it.

I will not be a follower of anyone's plans to replace one system with another that will most likely end up the same as the previous one. Because human nature is what it is and history shows that after an overthrow of a government you might have relative peace for a while, but it always eventually becomes repressive. Ultimately it ends up as bad or worse than the previous system. It will also need to be a violent overthrow. Peaceful overthrows are somehow not very prevalent in human history.

Those who are hoping for a raise in the vibrational frequency of all humans here in 3D... you may have a very long wait. That state already exists on other dimensions. Why bring the higher vibrational frequency down to this slow vibrational frequency dimension? Each dimension is different. If you want a higher frequency where your body is more free because a light body is your vehicle.... go to a higher dimension. But YOU are still free here and in all other dimensions. No one can enslave you but your own mind, your own belief in enslavement. Even beings in what we call "heaven", who are existing in a higher dimension can be enslaved by their belief that "heaven" is the ultimate dwelling place and there is no reason for them to leave, nor would they seek to leave because it would seem impossible. Hogwash. I've seen as many people/souls trapped in "heaven" as trapped here on earth...all by their limiting beliefs.

The fact is we are one with the Source. We are all powerful, we are free. There is only one, etc. etc. We're just here playing a game and by all means, if the game you choose is to pretend you're a slave to the system and you must revolt, that's great and I hope you enjoy it! I will enjoy watching but I'm not helping in a revolution to free myself from slavery. I am already free. If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight and enjoy it. If our body is killed... so what. It's just a car and this life is just a ride... and in my case it's an older model car so I'm about ready to turn it in for a newer, lighter body!

[Paul]

Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

As others have said, thanks for finding that.

If anyone wants a blow by blow deconstruction of Drake, you might try the above article by Joel Skousen.

Given the ease, repeatedly demonstrated and once again evident, with which we can be divided, distracted and deceived by the most ridiculous provocations, I am confident that what the bastards in power fear most is not generally apparent to us.

[9eagle9]

Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

[MargueriteBee]

Sometimes I think this planet is just as it should be. If it any different we would not have come here for 'the lesson'.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Paul (here)
...Given the ease, repeatedly demonstrated and once again evident, with which we can be divided, distracted and deceived by the most ridiculous provocations, I am confident that what the bastards in power fear most is not generally apparent to us.

...and, (after discounting the ridiculous Drake and the silly plan he's disseminating) don't forget to add, "...and no one has expressed any idea, plan, or strategy whatsoever that citizens could actively pursue that might even have a chance of working to commandeer the infrastructures of government that the bastards in power need in order to operate with impunity."

I'll be out rototilling the community gardens. Please, someone call me and let me know where to line up to get my chip implanted. Oh, nevermind, I'm sure they'll let me know.

Dennis