Change of heart regarding Drake/Wilcock/Fulford and The Plan

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Really? You're right, a medieval Sovereign certainly would never feed his people! He'd keep them on the edge of starving to ensure their compliance and keep them working for him. He'd keep everyone as bereft of any resources and education as possible to make sure that they could never depose him. Now, a compassionate person? You know they just might want to feed everyone they could because they had a heart.

Until people may freely choose to disobey the laws of physics you are NOT fully independent and fully sovereign in this world. You are bound by nature and its laws: Things such as needs for food, water, shelter and rest for one. If these things do not exist people will die, and the current world is engineered as such so that the vast majority of people have very little actual opportunity for a number of reasons to break out. Grow food? Buy guns? What about the people who live paycheck to paycheck and can barely afford rent let alone a gun or organic food? Oh, too bad for them, they all get to starve to death?

Any Plan we could ever trust, would need to account for the fact that in a huge number of cases people can very much become this way at no fault of their own and would attempt to, rather than faulting them for somehow not being omnipotent and omniscient enough to magic themselves out of their circumstances, do its level best to save as many people as possible and preserve as much as is goodly salvageable of the world to try and not let those people suffer a most embarrassing and painful death of starvation, dehydration, over-exposure or any combination thereof. Again, personal responsibility is not a magic shield from reality. You were given opportunities to be responsible in your life, you took them, you did well, congratulations! You have done us all a great service, but rather than chastise those who were not so fortunate it may aid you more to consider how you could offer the people who were never given the opportunities you were the chance to get up to your level.

[9eagle9]

Sure people have. Lose the slave mentality. Lose the programming. Lose the conditioning. The fascination and trust with authority. )Someone in authority will make it happen(.

Assume your self authority and you won't have any need of theirs.

You've developed it over a course of millenia, lose that slave mentality, herd mentality and see what happens. First a little then a lot.

Service to others quickly became servitude to others.

Helping others is effortless. The moment it becomes effort one is backsliding into slave.

[9eagle9]

Let me know when Drake starts feeding everyone. Perhaps David will pass out fishes and loaves.

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Really? You're right, a medieval Sovereign certainly would never feed his people! He'd keep them on the edge of starving to ensure their compliance and keep them working for him. He'd keep everyone as bereft of any resources and education to make sure that they could never depose him. Now, a compassionate person? You know they just might want to feed everyone they could because they had a heart.

Until people may freely choose to disobey the laws of physics you are NOT fully independent and fully sovereign in this world. You are bound by nature and its laws: Things such as needs for food, water, shelter and rest for one. If these things do not exist people will die, and the current world is engineered as such so that the vast majority of people have very little actual opportunity for a number of reasons to break out. Grow food? Buy guns? What about the people who live paycheck to paycheck and can barely afford rent let alone a gun or organic food? Oh, too bad for them, they all get to starve to death?

Any Plan we could ever trust, would need to account for the fact that in a huge number of cases people can very much become this way at no fault of their own and would attempt to, rather than faulting them for somehow not being omnipotent and omniscient enough to magic themselves out of their circumstances, do its level best to save as many people as possible and preserve as much as is goodly salvageable of the world to try and not let those people suffer a most embarrassing and painful death of starvation, dehydration, over-exposure or any combination thereof. Again, personal responsibility is not a magic shield from reality. You were given opportunities to be responsible in your life, you took them, you did well, congratulations! You have done us all a great service, but rather than chastise those who were not so fortunate it may aid you more to consider how you could offer the people who were never given the opportunities you were to get up to your level.

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Sure people have. Lose the slave mentality. Lose the programming. Lose the conditioning. The fascination and trust with authority. )Someone in authority will make it happen(.

Assume your self authority and you won't have any need of theirs.

You've developed it over a course of millenia, lose that slave mentality, herd mentality and see what happens. First a little then a lot.

Service to others quickly became servitude to others.

Helping others is effortless. The moment it becomes effort one is backsliding into slave.

Helping others is effortless? Are you a parent? Because I've had to deal with raising a small child for a while because of a move-in situation in a relationship and it was certainly not effortless. If it were, I could think "diapers" and they would instantly materialize by my side, no money, time, or work required. Perhaps you define effort very differently than I.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Let me know when Drake starts feeding everyone. Perhaps David will pass out fishes and loaves.

Oh come now, fishes and loaves?! That is sooo two millennia ago! We'll be serving an entree of either Chilean Sea Bass or Filet Minion with your choice of side! ;p

[NancyV]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by NancyV (here)
If someone brings the battle to us, we (my husband and I) will fight ...

Hi Nancy,

This is one of the points I'm trying to make. Define "us." Just you? (and husband) If you have children, grandchildren, elderly members of the family that can't effectively fight, do you fight for them? Other family members - do you fight with them? If you see the battle brought to your loved ones, do you stand silently, let them fight their own battle, knowing it's just a ride? Neighbors? Community members... why not humanity? Where's the line?

They DID bring the battle to us, depending on how you define "us."

Dennis
p.s. I'm not really talking about Drake here, but the bigger picture.

{edit} and on third thought... it appears as if I am passing a note at the end of a bayonet. Unintended. The question is not quite rhetorical, but also not aimed solely at Nancy. A question about where each of us see our 'sphere' - not only of current influence, but also of potential influence. Could we, should we, try to positively influence humanity or not? Could we, should we try to help defend humanity from predators or not?

Us includes anyone you choose to include at any time you decide to include them. It depends on what game you choose to play and how you play it. In the bigger picture US is, of course, all of us... since we are one. Personally I see no more value in the choices I make versus the choices you make. It's all about choice. My game may not have the same moves at the same time as your game, but we're all playing the same game. Your choices suit you and mine suit me. It might even be immoral of me to try to change your choices, if we want to deal with morality.

Whenever "shoulds" are pondered it becomes more about morality. The Source is amoral and does not deal with morality. Only we beings, we lower vibrational consciousnesses have decided to make morality a part of our game. So if one feels a need to either tell others what they should do or accept statements as truth from those who tell you what you should do, that is a choice we each get to make.

We (my husband and I) will fight only when the fight is brought into our physical presence. We've each fought enough in our lifetimes to have learned to not seek out a fight, especially my husband as a Vietnam vet and many battles after Vietnam. Our physical presence would include anyone who was close by, neighbors, family, strangers, whomever. I have put my life in danger several times while saving someone else and didn't think about dying while saving them. I can't imagine not defending or attempting to save anyone who was close by if they were attacked or in danger. It's automatic. I have never been afraid of death and have always thought that the importance of this one life on this small planet in this slow vibrational dimension is often greatly exaggerated. LOL...

PS: I absolutely respect your desire to help humanity and I do not take any of your posts as being even slightly hostile. You are an awesome dude!

[9eagle9]

Better yet if Drake can coax 'they' into feeding others now, I'd be quite impressed.

Why wait for a revolution?

[Paul]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
...and, (after discounting the ridiculous Drake and the silly plan he's disseminating) don't forget to add, "...and no one has expressed any idea, plan, or strategy whatsoever that citizens could actively pursue that might even have a chance of working to commandeer the infrastructures of government that the bastards in power need in order to operate with impunity."

The absence of a plan to get out of a mess is not grounds for being unrealistic about the mess.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'll be out rototilling the community gardens. Please, someone call me and let me know where to line up to get my chip implanted. Oh, nevermind, I'm sure they'll let me know.

Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

[another bob]

Posted by Paul (here)
Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

John Lear (who got it from Lou Baldin) states that we're all taken (abducted) at least 3 or 4 times in our life, for various adjustments and whatnot. A very few retain some fragment of distorted memory, but the overwhelming majority don't even suspect it. They may wake up with some odd scratch or pain or disease, or perhaps even relieved of some pain or ailment, but chalk it up to whatever myth du jour floats one's boat of belief. For example, the concept of "my body" can be questioned. Is that true, or just another story we've bought into, because we were told that it was ours by people who were equally clueless about what's really going on in this realm?

[justoneman]

Hi folks - as promised, I have updated my original post to include two new components to my original post that have once again, change the positioning of my heart.

justoneflipflopper

[YvonneG]

Is this a philosophy class now?


And Justoneman, I just read a little of your "living post" addition, and I so appreciate the honest "exercise" you are going through, instead of trying to convince us of anything.

I have question for you and others, ...well, several:

Does love exist? I know it does because I love.
In my life, I see more love then anything else, UNLESS I get my brain freezed into fear and all that is thrown at us, including my own subconscious.

I have learned about the Archons through a gnostic teacher who also teaches about the Goddess Sophia.

I have learned about many things over the years and have experienced many many things.

IN this amazing Universe in which we all live, the only way we can believe that the "bad guys" can win is that we continuously give them our thoughts and our power.

Sometimes I feel that is what we are doing here. I am sure the archons, however they exist and if they exist, just love us giving them more and more energy. I remember the teacher I mentioned above...what he said. If you feel an Archon is around or other intruder in your room or space, Tell them boldly: I Belong to the Goddess Sophia and you can not harm me.

One can subsituter "what is good" or "God" or Light for "Goddess Sophia"...

I for one don't know if Drake is right. I feel that if he isn't he has been used. However, I have very strong reasons to feel that he is right. Should we care to focus on those again, we could and perhaps, not naively, but making a choice to do that, since our energy and our thoughts and our attention do have effects. And if we inspire fear in others, fear tends to paralzyze and we should not be paralzyzed now whatever we believe. We should be preparing. And as someone else said, It's not about Drake.

[xbusymom]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I didn't say you were unreasonable I said manipulating my agreement isn't going to help you get your way , and neither will ordering me. I can't change your mind, you can change your mind.

It is unworkable, its demonstrated over and over and again. That's how systems work. Your sound system, the political system, your physical systems--they all do the same thing over and over again. Your going into just another system.

go to a forum, talk a lot etcetera etcetera etcetera. What changed.

Nothing.

You know what 9eagle9 … you are right.

Nothing has changed and no amount of debating back and forth will ever change anything either, until a decision is made by people and they implement an action based on that decision.

But this is a FORUM , not an appointed action committee. And this forum was built and designed for exchanging information, ideas, and conversations.

I am trying (even with my scrawny, little, beat up, chemically short-circuited, brain) to think of SOMETHING that MIGHT lead to a better system. I don't see you trying to do anything except tear down everyone else's ideas – with zero ideas of your own to replace them with...

so – since this is such an obvious attempt to grab your 15 minutes of fame- I will oblige to shine the limelight on you now...


<que the royal trumpets... and drumroll please...>

What do you think we should do ???

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by another bob (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

John Lear (who got it from Lou Baldin) states that we're all taken (abducted) at least 3 or 4 times in our life, for various adjustments and whatnot. A very few retain some fragment of distorted memory, but the overwhelming majority don't even suspect it. They may wake up with some odd scratch or pain or disease, or perhaps even relieved of some pain or ailment, but chalk it up to whatever myth du jour floats one's boat of belief. For example, the concept of "my body" can be questioned. Is that true, or just another story we've bought into, because we were told that it was ours by people who were equally clueless about what's really going on in this realm?

Spot on Bobby Boy. I find myself attached to a body constructed
from materials of this planet. So how can I even imagine that I
can claim any ownership over this body? But still I find it nice
that Im allowed to use it for the time being. LOL


All is well


Jorr 2.0

[YvonneG]

I find statements like this so not helpful. Everyone in this forum is afraid...lets be honest. Say things like perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you is not helpful. It strikes a cord of fear with NO solutions being added.

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
...and, (after discounting the ridiculous Drake and the silly plan he's disseminating) don't forget to add, "...and no one has expressed any idea, plan, or strategy whatsoever that citizens could actively pursue that might even have a chance of working to commandeer the infrastructures of government that the bastards in power need in order to operate with impunity."

The absence of a plan to get out of a mess is not grounds for being unrealistic about the mess.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
I'll be out rototilling the community gardens. Please, someone call me and let me know where to line up to get my chip implanted. Oh, nevermind, I'm sure they'll let me know.

Perhaps they won't let you know; perhaps they have already snuck the chip into you, without your awareness or consent .

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Hi folks - as promised, I have updated my original post to include two new components to my original post that have once again, change the positioning of my heart.

justoneflipflopper

Hey, not sure if I remembered or not, but wanted to suggest looking into Tanaath and TheSilverLegion.org , also Robert Stanley and Unicus Magazine, plus Duncan O'Finioan, they have all dealt with what are sometimes referred to as The Archon beings (I'm sure there are many different names for these), and those Amoebas that at least you'd be able to get some guidance from those with experience in dealing with those beings.

We'll all make it through this together, and meet eachother at the other side of this great big mountain we're climbing. hope someone remembers to bring the sandwiches . I'm happy I could be among others that have helped you out. Doing what we're here to do, help eachother, mentor and guide others.

[Kimberley]

Hi... If this post gets flagged as channeled material so be it... The messages of Bashar are IMO the best right on messages out there...and concur with my own knowing/understanding/remembering 100% of the time. And I do not have 100% resonance with much.

So this 5 minute message is priceless in my opinion!!! Enjoy! Much love !

And thank you to StarDust for bringing this to my attention...just a perfect reminder...lovely!

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMPXlyliLYM

[9eagle9]

Quite effortless, to the point i don't know I'm helping others until after the fact and they expressed to me later that I've helped them. If I'm trying that hard to help chances are I'm not helping but enabling.

I am a parent yes, single mother.

You are composed of the same stuff I am presumably so if I can think diapers, and they show up, then you should be able to as well....? I had to do quite a bit of psyche restoration in order to do that though.

If one re-defines their life according to natural laws rather than man made laws yes it all becomes quite effortless. One rearranges from thinking into knowing.

You know your child requires diapers? yes? End of story. Why shouldn't your child have diaper?

Effort is slave mentality, effort must be spent in order to have something to spend. It's easier to just to have it arrive at your doorstep in some mysterious fashion.

The ptb have absolutely no doubt in their mind they should have everything so we give it to them. They don't share. They are afraid of losing of everything. Eventually though having everything creates a great imbalance. Adopt that sort of knowing, you are absolutely entitled to everything. It doesn't' mean you are taking from others. Nor that you will refuse to share. What is typically the first thing we think of when we think of winning the lottery. Who are we going to share it with.

The kicker here is it because of sharing's sake or out of a sense of obligation?

The more you have the more you can give away. You can't give away what you don't have for yourself.

Financial lack is typically a symptom of self value issues not being addressed, because one is not aware they have a lack of self value.

Why would the Universe deny your child diapers? There's no point or purpose to it.

Teach the kid a lesson?

In honor of how Fishy the whole subject of Drake's declarations I'lll take the Sea Bass.

Fillet Minion is hilarious btw.

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Sure people have. Lose the slave mentality. Lose the programming. Lose the conditioning. The fascination and trust with authority. )Someone in authority will make it happen(.

Assume your self authority and you won't have any need of theirs.

You've developed it over a course of millenia, lose that slave mentality, herd mentality and see what happens. First a little then a lot.

Service to others quickly became servitude to others.

Helping others is effortless. The moment it becomes effort one is backsliding into slave.

Helping others is effortless? Are you a parent? Because I've had to deal with raising a small child for a while because of a move-in situation in a relationship and it was certainly not effortless. If it were, I could think "diapers" and they would instantly materialize by my side, no money, time, or work required. Perhaps you define effort very differently than I.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Let me know when Drake starts feeding everyone. Perhaps David will pass out fishes and loaves.

Oh come now, fishes and loaves?! That is sooo two millennia ago! We'll be serving an entree of either Chilean Sea Bass or Filet Minion with your choice of side! ;p

[another bob]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
In honor of how Fishy the whole subject of Drake's declarations I'lll take the Sea Bass.

[9eagle9]

We don't need a better system. We need to learn how to exist without a system.

Posted by xbusymom (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc…[and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution--

Someone making sure I don't starve sure doesn't sound sovereign to me. I can make sure I don't starve, thanks Drake.

Who is 'they' that is going to make sure I don't starve...lol.

A general lifestyle is going to be 'preserved'.

What? Tv? Make sure your cokes are cold and your soap operas aren't interrupted. You can have your Hostess cupcakes?

It's a brave new world but hey, We don' t have to change our lifestyle!

Painless revolution. For anyone who has ever changed their diet, changed their attitudes, began a health regime one knows for themselves its not painless. The sheep can't be made uncomfortable, Drake must know this.

Revolution. A system that goes round and round.

Less a Drake than a lame duck.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I didn't say you were unreasonable I said manipulating my agreement isn't going to help you get your way , and neither will ordering me. I can't change your mind, you can change your mind.

It is unworkable, its demonstrated over and over and again. That's how systems work. Your sound system, the political system, your physical systems--they all do the same thing over and over again. Your going into just another system.

go to a forum, talk a lot etcetera etcetera etcetera. What changed.

Nothing.

You know what 9eagle9 … you are right.

Nothing has changed and no amount of debating back and forth will ever change anything either, until a decision is made by people and they implement an action based on that decision.

But this is a FORUM , not an appointed action committee. And this forum was built and designed for exchanging information, ideas, and conversations.

I am trying (even with my scrawny, little, beat up, chemically short-circuited, brain) to think of SOMETHING that MIGHT lead to a better system. I don't see you trying to do anything except tear down everyone else's ideas – with zero ideas of your own to replace them with...

so – since this is such an obvious attempt to grab your 15 minutes of fame- I will oblige to shine the limelight on you now...


<que the royal trumpets... and drumroll please...>

What do you think we should do ???

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Blueskywalking (here)
I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

Posted by Blueskywalking (here)


Maybe someone who has got a copy can confirm if this is in fact the one....?

* Post update *

Confirmed by YvonneG

I see no reason why this shouldn't be reposted here, with the appropriate credits:

BEWARE THE CLAIMS OF “DRAKE” AND FULFORD

By Joel Skousen Mon 23rd Apr 2012

From time to time I have to publish a warning about disinformation people trying to lead the liberty movement astray and bring it into ridicule. Recently, claims by David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford are once again causing subscribers to email me for comment. Both Wilcock and Fulford may be sincere patriots but they have been listening to disinformation experts who are whispering bogus conspiracy claims in their ears. These disinfo guys claim to be Pentagon insiders and are telling them that loyal elements of our military are about to arrest all the insiders and globalists and save us from their nasty world government agenda. Not only is it not true, it’s patently ridiculous. It’s also impossible to pull off with these dupes broadcasting the plot to all the world.

One of these so-called insiders, according to David Wilcock calls himself “Drake.” Here’s one of David Wilcock’s enthusiastic promotions about Drake to his readers [my - i.e. Joel Skousen's - critique in brackets]:

“Drake stated that everyone who is associated with anything that is detrimental to the public will be held accountable for their actions. One caller asked if the mass arrests will include the people who spray chemtrails in our air, those who place fluoride in our water and those who abuse animals. Drake stated, ‘You might want to include everything you can think of in terms of making things right [“everything” would take eons to make right, even if you could document it].’

“Drake has been revealing a new movement regarding a mass arrest of all corrupted politicians, banksters, etc... which possibly might involve the selection of Ron Paul as an interim or temporary President of the United States until formal elections can be held [with claims like this, it’s no wonder Ron Paul is disavowing any contact with conspiracy groups].

“If you look at the massive number of banker resignations since September 1, 2011 (450 and counting) [grossly exaggerated. Perhaps 6-8 at the most] it makes sense that these people are quitting in the hopes of not being persecuted for their crimes against humanity. According to Drake, everyone will be held accountable whether they are employed in their current positions or not.

“Regarding reimbursement for fraudulent income tax collected by the IRS, Drake stated, ‘All of these things are going to be rectified [Hype. Sorting out everyone’s returns for a fair tax would take decades].’ Question: Due to the magnitude of this operation, are people being arrested now and then, and a big announcement will be made once they are all rounded up?

“Drake: Not exactly. You’ve got people behind the scenes who are taken into custody and/or put under house arrest that’s not going to be in the mainstream news [contradicted below]. The basis of what’s going to happen is very simple. We have set the country free through the notification process [This refers to the bogus efforts of self-styled Sovereign Americans to give legal notice to state governors and other federal officials to step down, or be subject to prosecution and arrest]. The secondary part of that is that the military has assured its backing to us for the backing of the mass arrests scenario [Sure, all these yesmen in the military are suddenly planning a huge mass arrest plan and the all listening ears of government eavesdropping hasn’t got a clue this is coming? How gullible does he think we are?]. The mass arrests scenario is going to be primarily all of your celebrity or well-known figures. You’re going to recognize a load of the names [How if he claims no media coverage?].”

“Drake: The first that happens is the central banking system is going to be required to repay each and everything that they borrowed [with what, more printed funny money? He hasn’t thought this out]. This will bankrupt that corporation [bankruptcy means the citizens don’t get paid back—how is that a promised repayment?].

“Drake: Second part of this is a load, and I mean a heavy load, of criminal charges. Those criminal charges are not limited to anything. They contain just about every crime you can think of [does this kind of sloppy language give you confidence that he knows what he is talking about?]. Following that, a reorientation back to the original “de jour” founding document government that was originally set in the United States will be implemented [he is referring to the restoration of sovereignty based on technical issues of common law—a theory fraught with lots of out dated terms that are not capable of restoring a sound basis for liberty. In this case the “De jure” sovereign is recognized by law or the constitution, but not in position to practice its power because of “de facto” sovereign claims by false government].

“Within all of this process, you’re going to have people taking care of, in terms of trying to make sure that the lights are all on, etc… [and, what limits does he have in mind for “taking care of people”?]. If there’s a food shortage someplace, they will break out emergency rations and will make sure people don’t starve. In other words, everything that you can think of in terms of maintaining a general lifestyle is going to be as preserved as possible [In other words, this is going to be a quick and painless revolution---impossible even with dictatorial powers]. This is going to be done with the least amount of chaos and as peaceably as possible. Some people will probably want to shoot it out [must be referring to people more radical than himself, if that’s possible]. That’s their problem.”

“There’s going to be a worldwide reevaluation of currencies from a debt instrument to an equity instrument and that will facilitate considerable changes [In order to do that, he’s got to claim that his military insiders are going to take over all other governments that put out fiat money too. Again, not possible. He’s just blowing hot air]. As far as I understand it, the plan has changed. They were going to have a new currency which would allow for an exchange program and they decided that it could be done in terms of the currency that we have now, except that it says Federal Reserve Note on it. I’m thinking they’re going to bring the newly printed money back, bleach the paper and reprint [just too idiotic to comment on]. It will go from a debt instrument to an equity instrument backed by assets.”

“In regard to HAARP, the controls will be taken over so it won’t be used as a weapon against innocent people. There are a lot of good things that that can be used for [not true. It has no useful purpose except to interfere with and disrupt the electromagnetic spectrum]. Regarding Benjamin Fulford: ‘I am not going to confirm anything Fulford says because he is not in the inner loop at this point.’ [the ultimate in arrogance, to dish another dupe who is promoting similar disinformation to Drake’s]”

I’m taking the time to cover this because too many people in the liberty movement want to believe it. Don’t. It’s total wishful thinking, and not good thinking at that, as I have pointed out in my comments. There are two major flaws in this claim that completely destroy its credibility:

1) That the military is going to arrest the entire cabal and those that support them. This has two aspects: First, there is no one who knows “who they are” outside of a hundred or so front men. If you don’t know who they all are how do you arrest and eradicate them? And how do you prove their guilt? There is no way to distinguish between them and the multiple layers of involvement by other dupes in conspiracy without being with them on the inside. Only a few know the entire plot, and we don’t know who they are. And even if we did, we don’t have access to their past secret communications that would prove their complicity and guilt. Most people going along with globalism are at some level of compliance ranging from ambition to get ahead to fear of bucking a powerful control system. How do you sort out the guilt? Second, the military hierarchy filters out those who oppose government policy and never promotes them to high rank. Believing in a military revolution in today’s world of yesmanship is an illusion of grand proportions. Ask those of us who have been officers in the military and seen how unthinking and controlled the system is.

2) If Drake really knew something like this were coming, he would never run around giving interviews on the subject. To reveal it beforehand would only have the effect of unleashing a massive dragnet by the establishment intelligence agencies to root out those military officers (if they did exist) who are conspiring to arrest them.

All of this is so patently ridiculous that I’m embarrassed for the movement and those good people who are taken in by it. But, perhaps that’s part of the purpose—to drive thinking people away and discredit the ones who understand how the true conspiracy operates.

My views match those of Skousen's very closely. My own critique, though, might not be quite so acerbic! But he's plainly irritated by this major (and successful!) diversion -- as am I.

The only factual error is his reference to the number of resignations in the finance sector, which is more than 6-8. But those are certainly because of the insider awareness of the likelihood of a major financial meltdown in the fairly near future... not the fear of 'arrests'. They're simply jumping ship before it sinks.

My final comment is that Drake's claim of imminent arrests is being chorused by a number of channeled entities -- such as Mike Quinsey's 'SaLuSa'. And that, I'm afraid, is also a final nail in their credibility. As I've said a number of times, almost all channeled material is way too Amerocentric -- and also dishes up to the gullible reader exactly what they want to see.

[doodah]

Thank you all for keeping the IDEA of Drake alive.

Anytime any BIG IDEA gets posted anywhere, the yaysayers and naysayers pop up almost automatically and the tennis match begins. That's how it goes because we're a feisty and contentious lot.

Everyone surely does a great job of keeping all the negative crap IDEAs on this planet alive; everybody has lots of reasons why not.

At least with Drake you all are arguing about whether or not the good guys can possibly win, and stacking some cordwood in the vacuum that used to be the good guys' side.

It might be hard for me to explain, but it matters a WHOLE LOT that this IDEA of a possible plan is seeded. Same with Fulford, whether you believe him or not. It is not false hope. It is a SEED. I mean, what else do you have in your "Signs of Hope" folder?

The people in control of this planet do this all the time with bad news until an idea is so firmly seeded (RFID chips, for instance; a stupid and useless war with Iran) that even if you disagree with it, it keeps creeping relentlessly toward becoming reality until, boom, one day there it is.

So why not us, I ask? Why not? There is a plan afoot to kick these assholes to kingdom come. The more discussion it gets, the better. Amen.

Thank you.

[I'm editing to add that this comment must look pretty stupid coming right after Bill's, but isn't that an interesting luck of the draw? Bill's analysis wasn't there when I started writing my little post, so I guess there's some reason this strange juxtaposition happened. Bill's very logical and coherent analysis makes a lot of sense. Oppose that now with my "Why not us?" They are not necessarily contradictory! ~ Doodah]