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    Cliff High? OMG, he has never had any prediction ever come true. Remember November 7th of 2010 was supposed to have an energetic footprint greater than 9-11 with 3 months release language like we have never seen before?

    Cliff High is fear porn at it's finest and, even though he is right about Fukushima and possibly Drake, so is Snooki and Kim Kardashian.

    Geez!

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    Fearporn, living on the dark side. He even admits it, Gripreaper

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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    1.5 hours of empty conjecture.
    Hmm, I thought it was a Cliff High interview... not a Drake/Wilcock/Fullford interview...?
    Clif High is COMPLETE TOOL! This review summed it up well:

    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/...aa-credit.html

    Red Ice Creations Loose it's AAA Credit Rating in Fair and Objective Alternative News

    Red Ice Creations Loose it's AAA Credit Rating in Fair and Objective Alternative News Reporting: Joins Info Wars and Fox News in Multimedia 2012 Pissing Contest. 

    I am a subscriber to Red Ice Creations, and up until recently considered myself one of their biggest fans. On the May 10th Red Ice Radio podcast featuring Half Past Human's Clif High, the typical hard nosed insight for truth seeking journalism that Red Ice has normally put out on a regular basis, was nowhere to be found. That really was a big disappointment for me, regarding the lack of integrity and investigative journalistic ethics of Chief Editor and brain child of Red Ice Creations, Henrik Palgren. Mr. High went on a hour long attack on David Wilcock, from Divine Cosmos.com, Benjamin Fulford of benjaminfulford.net, and new comer from Freedomreigns.US, Drake. 

    These three men have been reporting on the high probability of mass arrest of the Global Banking Criminal Cabal, The end of the debt based Federal Reserve economic system, and a releasing of suppressed technologies leading to a Golden Age where over unity energy devices are made available to  the people of Planet Earth. Sounds like some pretty far out stuff huh? Well for five years Red Ice Radio has been leading the way in reporting the way way far out. Nothing too taboo, nothing  too extreme. Longer than almost anyone else, Red Ice Radio has been reporting on all of these issues, if fact they really have been leading the charge in these highly controversial topics, the brain dead sleep walking masses would only entertain if they were watching some science fiction movie. Red Ice Radio seems to be, as renown researcher Michael Tsarion would but it, "territorializing" the most far out and fantasmigorical ideas and memes, for their own. 

    With the recent tone and posture of the most cutting edge show in the alternative media, I have to wonder if Mr. Palmgren is finally getting soft, with his own personal brand of arrogance and alternative media elitist veneer.  I personally have researched new comer Drake by taking the necessary time to listen to all of his podcast appearing at Freedom Reigns.US, Fredomizer Radio on Blogtalk Radio.com and Wolf Spirit Radio.com. I have also taken the time research a broad scope of what  Fulford and Wilcock have also been reporting about. From geopolitics, to the controlled demolition of the Federal Reserve baking cabal, and the inevitable release of new energy technologies to name a few.  All three of these men have been working quite independently in their own said sphere of related interest, though Fulford and Wilcock have done some recent interviews together. The idea that there is some conspiracy, from some dark cabal disinfo campaign, propagated by Wilcock, Fulford and Drake is quite a ridiculous and  lazy brained conclusion to jump to .This subject matter is really quite open source, no one out there really has the moral authority to really throw anyone else under the bus like we heard on the recent RIR podcast. 

    So with that said, it is highly, highly unusual for Red Ice Creations to attack David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and new comer Drake in such a brash, close minded, and testosterone driven fashion. We normally see this style of hit and run reporting from alternative media Hulkster, Alex Jones, who we all still love but, is almost more like some twisted form of entertainment for must of us. It seems now that Red Ice Radio has become so big, so groundbreaking, so much an insider in setting trends of what is and what is not relevant, that they no longer have to do their homework and put in the necessary hours or research, to report on issues fairly and honestly. Red Ice Radio can now finally rest on it's laurels and just shove information and news down your throat like Info Wars.com  It is a sad day for the alternative media when the people we look to mirror the truth back to us, loose their edge. With all fairness to Henrik Palmgren, he did contact Wilcock and Fullford multiple times to get their story on the record, unsuccessfully. But the contrast laid out by Cliff High was pretty brutal and boarded on the line of agent provocateur fervor, with the pure rage and profanity coming out his potty mouth. The victim based mindset that came from Clif High seemed to try to bully listeners into a corner, that smart people like him, can break it down for us, and it's simply more efficient, to take his word for it, that Wilcock and Fulford were bad guys who were basically tools, stooges and putty in the hands of NWO elite. In the end, the May 10th RIR podcast sounded much more like a competitive, male dominated ego, pissing contest between two people who had a very large bull horn and three guys who weren't even there to defend themselves. I would hope that Drake, Fulford, and Wilcock will not stoop and lower themselves to respond irresponsably to this type of attention seeking, childish type of  hack journalisim. 

    It is my humble opinion that fine people over at Red Ice Creations should retract the Clif High interview and or at least offer a substantial apology to the injured parties. 

    The venom coming from the May 10th podcast almost served as some sort of blackmail to get the previously unavailable Wilcock and Fulford onto Red Ice to finally tell their story, which is also, in my opinion, simply tabloid journalism on par with Fox News. So just as France was recently downgraded this year by Standards and Poor's rating system from AAA  down to AA which will most assuredly lead to France being kick of the Euro and joing the southern strangler nations like, Spain, Italy, and Portugal, to start their own Southern Euro Reject Currency. So dose Red Ice Radio loose it's AAA rating of being a beacon of sanity and trust worthy news reporting for the world to rely on in these troubling and interesting times. 

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    So with that said, it is highly, highly unusual for Red Ice Creations to attack David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and new comer Drake in such a brash, close minded, and testosterone driven fashion.
    Maybe I missed something, but what I heard was Mr. High attacking these peoples' positions and trying to make sense of something he found to be senseless. He might have gone too far, but he is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else. All Red Ice did was conduct an interview. I will listen again, but I don't recall Red Ice attacking anyone. Maybe they could have explored alternate angles a little better, but this is talk radio, not journalistic reporting and there is a huge difference.

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    It is my humble opinion that fine people over at Red Ice Creations should retract the Clif High interview and or at least offer a substantial apology to the injured parties.  
    No, what they should do is invite Ben, David, or Drake on the air.
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    I've stopped reading Wilcock and Fulford already. And I never read Drake anyway. Clif High I still check out....for as long as he continues to make any sense. Time will tell on him (but my spending time and/or money on these other folk is already over...I don't feel they panned out.....just too many he said she said ....is going on with them).

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    Zebra,

    Haha resistance? Yeah, always... I'm allergic to "Borg Mentality" :D

    As with most things, it was "interesting"... it's just one person's perspective - why should it be more or less important for anyone else?

    There are by all counts, now just over 7 billion people on the planet. Maybe that's how many different "perspectives" [realities/parallel Earths] are out there... minimum.

    Choose your own [perspective] works best
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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    1.5 hours of empty conjecture.
    Hmm, I thought it was a Cliff High interview... not a Drake/Wilcock/Fullford interview...?
    Clif High is COMPLETE TOOL! This review summed it up well:

    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/...aa-credit.html

    Red Ice Creations Loose it's AAA Credit Rating in Fair and Objective Alternative News

    ...

    Ahhhh, Cliff High being a tool. ROFLOL The mirror is at play

    again. Well irs not pleasent being confused with facts when

    one already has made up ones mind. ROFLOL I always find

    it interesting to read descriptions of wot people see in the

    mirror. Its so obvious for the observers around. LOL


    All is well


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    Quote Posted by felixq78 (here)
    Could be,..might be,..but we don't really know. I'm still in the innocent until proven guilty camp. Just because we've been caught out in the past, it doesn't mean this Drake guy is just another disinfo merchant.
    I'll take that even further, if I may? Something to... "play" with, if you wish

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    1.5 hours of empty conjecture.
    Hmm, I thought it was a Cliff High interview... not a Drake/Wilcock/Fullford interview...?
    Clif High is COMPLETE TOOL! This review summed it up well:

    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/...aa-credit.html

    Red Ice Creations Loose it's AAA Credit Rating in Fair and Objective Alternative News

    ... Mr. High went on a hour long attack on David Wilcock, from Divine Cosmos.com, Benjamin Fulford of benjaminfulford.net, and new comer from Freedomreigns.US, Drake. 
    ...
    All three of these men have been working quite independently in their own said sphere of related interest, though Fulford and Wilcock have done some recent interviews together. The idea that there is some conspiracy, from some dark cabal disinfo campaign, propagated by Wilcock, Fulford and Drake is quite a ridiculous and  lazy brained conclusion to jump to .This subject matter is really quite open source, no one out there really has the moral authority to really throw anyone else under the bus like we heard on the recent RIR podcast. 

    So with that said, it is highly, highly unusual for Red Ice Creations to attack David Wilcock, Benjamin Fulford and new comer Drake in such a brash, close minded, and testosterone driven fashion. We normally see this style of hit and run reporting from alternative media Hulkster, Alex Jones, ...
    And nesaranews is complaining that Clif High's interview is a hit piece ? Clif High had his rants in that Red Ice interview, but on the whole, he was far more measured and sensible, in my estimation, than this nesaranews post.

    The above post on nesaranews is a hit piece; it has much more name calling and defamation than Clif High's interview. It is little more than a pot stirring.

    The effort to stir this Drake-Fulford-Wilcock controversy into a first class Hatfields vs McCoys feud within the alternative media audience (us) appears to still be in high gear.

    I am a bit disappointed that you would post a copy of such clap trap here.
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    StarDust,

    fix it man is most clearly defending a movement that many have put in 100s of hours of time and their support behind. It worries me though, that free speech is being denied here - Clif High has as much right to give his ideas as anyone else. The response I felt was not very evolved.

    I also do not agree with tarring Henrik Palmgren with the same brush, either. The whole interview - if you listened to it - does not spend 3 hours critiquing Wilcock, Fulford and Drake.

    I have been listening to Henrik Palmgren - almost weekly now - since 2009. I think his standard is very high and this interview was no less. His show is not just talk back radio, either, this man is a fine journalist. I wouldn´t be wasting my time listening in, week after week if he wasn't. He is one of the few left standing, who bring perspectives to the table and in a respectful, intelligent and professional manner.

    I don´t know him personally, there is no need to. His output is high and quality, plus the man has integrity.

    Claims made by this anonymous character called fix it now are sadly shallow. We want to be better than that, surely!

    I suggest you take some time to listen to more of Henrik´s work - Redice is a great resource.

    Respectfully, Zebra


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    Clif High is COMPLETE TOOL! This review summed it up well:

    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/...aa-credit.html

    Red Ice Creations Loose it's AAA Credit Rating in Fair and Objective Alternative News

     
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    And nesaranews is complaining that Clif High's interview is a hit piece ? Clif High had his rants in that Red Ice interview, but on the whole, he was far more measured and sensible, in my estimation, than this nesaranews post.

    The above post on nesaranews is a hit piece; it has much more name calling and defamation than Clif High's interview. It is little more than a pot stirring.

    The effort to stir this Drake-Fulford-Wilcock controversy into a first class Hatfields vs McCoys feud within the alternative media audience (us) appears to still be in high gear.

    I am a bit disappointed that you would post a copy of such clap trap here.
    I can't believe anyone would defend someone who managed to get on the airwaves only to spend multiple hours bashing other people. The only place that interviewee should be accepted is on the Jerry Springer show.

    It would have been different if High had spent the time discussing information/ideas that he had researched himself. No, he's not capable of that. All he can do is discuss what a badass he is in the dojo and hide behind a really bad computer algorithm that can't make a prediction to save his life. What made it a complete waste of time was that it amounted to 1.5 hours of listening to his character assassinations of others.

    People are welcome to praise him as a breath of fresh air, but from my perspective that blast of air came straight from his arse.
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    It would have been different if High had spent the time discussing information/ideas that he had researched himself. No, he's not capable of that. All he can do is discuss what a badass he is in the dojo and hide behind a really bad computer algorithm that can't make a prediction to save his life. What made it a complete waste of time was that it amounted to 1.5 hours of listening to his character assassinations of others.

    People are welcome to praise him as a breath of fresh air, but from my perspective that blast of air came straight from his arse.


    Well, listening to him talk, I think he has analysed and evaluated a wide range of data, quite confidently. There is a lot of sense in what he says, in how in joins the dots.

    Hard predictions, per se, don´t interest me so much but the potential, emergent trends that he points to, are interesting to consider.

    Could you explain what you know about the technology that he uses? Why you think it has no value?

    Personally, by the way, I am not interested whether he hangs out in a dojo or a rodeo. What he is trying to understand and what he is trying to do in relation to help the earth - that´s important. So, I am keen to know more.

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    I can't believe anyone would defend someone who managed to get on the airwaves only to spend multiple hours bashing other people. The only place that interviewee should be accepted is on the Jerry Springer show.
    So ... when I object to the name calling of the nesaranews post you quoted, you defend it ... with more name calling.

    I hope you're not surprised that you didn't persuade me.

    I recommend this Red Ice Radio interview of Clif High. It has much substance.
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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    I can't believe anyone would defend someone who managed to get on the airwaves only to spend multiple hours bashing other people
    I've seen more "bashing" on a cooking programme.

    The critical appraisals of the 'mass arrests' prediction were well made and well explained without resort 'add hominems'.

    The host even went right out of his way to declare his interest in airing all sides of the discussion and reported his efforts to invite the relevant parties on the show.

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    I can't believe anyone would defend someone who managed to get on the airwaves only to spend multiple hours bashing other people. The only place that interviewee should be accepted is on the Jerry Springer show.
    So ... when I object to the name calling of the nesaranews post you quoted, you defend it ... with more name calling.

    I hope you're not surprised that you didn't persuade me.

    I recommend this Red Ice Radio interview of Clif High. It has much substance.
    Name calling? You're being sensitive about something that doesnt exist as there was nothing within my rebuttal that remotely resembled name calling. Any descriptors were aimed as a direct critique of High. My response was not intended to persuade you to do anything. Knock yourself out & reccomend away!

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    It would have been different if High had spent the time discussing information/ideas that he had researched himself. No, he's not capable of that. All he can do is discuss what a badass he is in the dojo and hide behind a really bad computer algorithm that can't make a prediction to save his life. What made it a complete waste of time was that it amounted to 1.5 hours of listening to his character assassinations of others.

    People are welcome to praise him as a breath of fresh air, but from my perspective that blast of air came straight from his arse.


    Well, listening to him talk, I think he has analysed and evaluated a wide range of data, quite confidently. There is a lot of sense in what he says, in how in joins the dots.

    Hard predictions, per se, don´t interest me so much but the potential, emergent trends that he points to, are interesting to consider.

    Could you explain what you know about the technology that he uses? Why you think it has no value?

    Personally, by the way, I am not interested whether he hangs out in a dojo or a rodeo. What he is trying to understand and what he is trying to do in relation to help the earth - that´s important. So, I am keen to know more.
    Here is High's "genius" prediction for 2012:


    Future predictions

    Major catastrophe in 2012 – The Web Bot has gained most of its notoriety for contributing to the 2012 phenomenon by predicting that a cataclysm will devastate the planet in the year 2012, possibly a reversing of Earth's magnetic poles or a small series of nuclear attacks leading up to a major attack during the year. The prediction does not call for a complete end of the world.

    It's absolute rubbish. If his ALTA based linguistics algorithm was so incredibly advanced then he should be a multi-trillionaire from cleaning up on the stock market. He isn't anywhere close. He's a hack technologist with a good idea that was poorly executed.
    Last edited by StarDust; 15th May 2012 at 09:07.

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Here is High's "genius" prediction for 2012:
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    It's absolute rubbish.
    I had not been listening to Clif High for some time ... for when I had, I didn't trust it.

    This Red Ice Radio interview of Clif High was excellent however (though I realize that some who support Drake, Wilcock and/or Fulford won't like it, and may choose to attack the messenger.)
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    I liked the interview. I found it as credible and as interesting as any of the other speculative fiction writers/speakers who've found favor with a growing internet fan-base who wouldn't consider skipping the next online episode of "Conspiracy Mob Wives" and certainly wouldn't be caught dead in any forum worth its salt without an acceptably strong opinion against one of the regulars on the show. Mea culpa!

    Talk about fear porn. Let's! What keeps anyone polarized against another? Fear. What keeps the suspicions alive that someone you don't like deliberates against your interests? Fear. What brings you to dis someone to protect your favorite online reality star? Fear. What makes the muskrat fear his musk?! Well, you get the idea.

    And what is fear, but rejection of feeling afraid. And why reject it? Because it appears so powerful! More powerful than your love? Not so. To make it a habit to disallow each fear its silly moment in the spotlight creates over time the banquets our Fathers Who Aren't in Heaven feast upon in all their grease slobbering gluttony.

    So the next time I notice how much I do not like someone, I'll check under the table to see if there's something a little scary slithering in the shadows, maybe looking for a little action in my shoes. Then against all conditioned wisdom, I shall take a deep breath, invite that sucker into my body , let it know its welcome here and give it a luxurious taste of life in a body of love, letting it grow up healthy and strong, then freeing it from my awareness and care to it's own evolution. It might take more than a few minutes, sometimes less, but then— poof, it's gone!!!

    That is, until I come across another post by some idiot who, in my expert opinion, doesn't know what he or she is talking about! Ugh, not this again! (Rinse and repeat.)

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    Default Re: Benjamin Fulford's posts and reports

    Um... I've been a subscriber to HPH since the old days. Cliff gave me a free subscription to the old ALTA reports when he found out I was on disability benefits. The HPH technology predicts language not events although I've seen a great many hits come from it. The prediction of a radioactive volcano and radioactive winds around the world were fulfilled by Fukushima. I watched the Bunsfield oil depot fire fulfill another and he got the Indonesian quake and tsunami.

    Because the technology predicts what people will be talking about rather than actual events it also picks up stuff that a lot of people talk about but that doesn't actually happen like that daft Elenin thing.

    I agree with his position on Drake, Fulford and Wilcock. I disagree with him on other things like his expando planet stuff and a few other things. He does have a bit of a tendency to go into hyperbolae but that doesn't invalidate his work with the web bots which in my experience has about a 60% hit rate for language and about 40% for real events. He often gets the interpretation wrong but you do see the actual language he bases his interpretation on unfold frequently.

    I have yet to see anything that Fulford or Wilcock predicted happen in the real world, to me, track record speaks volumes about the reliability of a source.

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    I hope this catches on more, I try to follow these Mopal TV - National Emergency Committee shows that Benjamin Fulford has started doing on Mopal TV, approximately every two weeks. There seems to be two Youtubers that are translating the Japanese parts and it is very interesting... they are poppletelevision, and workingamateur, this one is done by dandomina

    Benjamin Fulford National Emergency Committee May 8 2012 Alexander Romanov
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=HHrriKgJoCQ

    In one bit at around 10 min, Fulford/Romanov talk about the 70 Kilos of laced marijuana Romanov tried to deliver to Ben, wow... Romanov says he is a descendant of Russian Royalty, (newsworthy in and of itself, as that means Anastasia apparently did survive the cabalist extermination of the Russian Czarist bloodline) He also talks about his association with the self title of 'Anti-Christ' and a book he has written Called "The 666"? which he says contains evidence that would undermine the Western (Vatican) Religious Cabal.... this definitely needs more context, and I would love to read this book he is talking about if it has actual evidence in it...
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