Change of heart regarding Drake/Wilcock/Fulford and The Plan

[felixq78]

Could be,..might be,..but we don't really know. I'm still in the innocent until proven guilty camp. Just because we've been caught out in the past, it doesn't mean this Drake guy is just another disinfo merchant.

[justoneman]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And what was his reaction that you do not percieve as being sourced from a place of wisdom, JustOne?

several, but specifically the statement that maybe the post creator should maybe leave town for his own safety type threat - doesn't sound like someone who learned much from his mystery school... just the whole way Drake handled it - sure the guy has to be under a great deal of stress but seems to me that being a spokesman is a responsibility and the primary responsibility is keeping your cool.

[9eagle9]

You're correct, in spite of what Felixq notes, people provide their own evidence. If one knows how to look for it.

People who truly have mastered the esoteric arts, first learn to master themselves particularly one's emotions. If Drake has indeed attended Mystery school he didn't get much out of it. A common mistake when studying esoteria is that accumulation of knowledge through study is self mastery. It's not. Its acquiring a lot of knowledge but not imposing the appropriate discipline upon one's self in order to use it. It then just become information purposes only.

The truth is never broke down by a little questioning. If it is , it's not the truth.

Drake has self identified with his own belief system, if you question the beliefs , it is is perceived as questioning him.

Estoeric people know better than to fall into that all to common mind trap.

Truth is, as always, self evident.

[KiwiElf]

Posted by felixq78 (here)
Could be,..might be,..but we don't really know. I'm still in the innocent until proven guilty camp. Just because we've been caught out in the past, it doesn't mean this Drake guy is just another disinfo merchant.

I'll take that even further, if I may? Something to... "play" with, if you wish

Our present is NOT the result of our past - understand that fully, and you will break the connection to the third density - Have Fun

[karelia]

I was going to talk about why I've not had a change of heart, only to find that I have had a change of, well, opinion about the entire Drake thing. I'm still of the opinion that there is no harm listening to Drake. Definitely way less harm than sitting in front of the TV watching soaps, no doubt about that. But now I also feel that I gain absolutely nothing from listening (I've just switched off the current episode).

I know it's wise to be friendly with one's neighbours. I know it's a good idea to have a certain amount of food in your cupboards. I know it's a good idea to grow some of your own vegetables. Guess what? I've lived exactly this way my entire life with very few exceptions when I was traveling and therefore couldn't grow things, when I lived in a huge apartment complex and gave up greeting the neighbours because all I received was scowls, but those occasions were rare. But all that stressing about "localisation," or community I can live with. Having lived in the US, I know it's nowhere near as normal there as it is here in Europe. Anonymisation has never quite taken on such an art form as it has in the US.

What really made me view Drake in a different way was the way he talked about Project Camelot and dragged David Wilcock into it. If my children talked that way about someone in a public venue, I would drag them home by their hair. It sounded way too much like "He said, she said." And that's just... well, it's exactly the kind of behaviour you'd expect from someone who has been too heavily influenced by the cabal agenda.

Personally, I don't want to return to the 1950s' values. It's in the past, so let it sleep! The 1950s was the time just before every single household had a TV, before having a bigger car than the next-door neighbour became important. But the signs were already there, and I really want no repeat of that. I want to move on to a world that absolutely excludes the spanking of children, the punishment for bad behaviour, and most of all, I want to move beyond people's need to execute anyone for whatever crimes. That kind of reality requires the end of duality, and that is what I want to see.

You can scream Constitution, or Common Law, all you want, but until we're all on the same page about true freedom, it's not going to happen. And that same page isn't about the US constitution because let's face it, the US is just one country amongst how many who don't have that constitution?

2012 isn't about resurrecting the constitution. It's about becoming free. And the only way we can achieve that is to set and aim for a common goal: to work on our consciousness. If our consciousness increases, there will be no space for the cockroaches in terms of energy because we will fill all that space.

By all means, let's continue to listen to Drake. He makes a lot of good points, and he probably has a good point repeating and repeating and repeating himself because I'm sure we've all been there where we had to see/listen to/watch a truth a million times before it would sink in, but let's not forget our goal to move beyond duality, and that we can only do ourselves, at each one's own pace.