Change of heart regarding Drake/Wilcock/Fulford and The Plan

[YvonneG]

Justoneman, you won't receive any psy attacks from me or those I know. I don't even know how to do one!

[9eagle9]

David Promotes weakness

1) Waiting for something to happen

2) Waiting someone else to take charge,

3) Waiting for someone else to clean up the mess.

Do not ever be ashamed of noticing that. David is easily manipulated, he's a perfect candidate for influence.

He promises a lot but he fails, personally fails, every topic he presents to his public in some fashion of another. He does not walk his talk. He your usual low level lite worker who managed to catch the public eye by essentially using other people's research.

There is no reason why anyone should trust someone who doesn't walk their talk.

He attracts those who are not empowered enough to help themselves. Some one else will come along.

Honestly I'm with you. I'd absolutely love nothing better than to set it all down, and let someone else clean my house. Who wouldn't.

That's how not how we get freedom. We will get equally dependent on the house cleaners.

And he attracts other weak people who are waiting for someone else to do something. That is just how energy works.

Do not EVER be ashamed for seeing through the bull****.

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
I can tell you right now.. Plans are being put in place for the entire human race to be changed into light-beings by the end of this year..

The only people who do not want humanity to be evolved into light-beings are the rich and elite who want a bloody slave race to carry out their factory work.

I am real sorry Stan and Dennis and Kimberly and others who are Drake/Plan supporters/believers –
I wish that what is now a fantasy to me could come true in that the world would change that those who have been a part of the Satanic Cabal (and which I see as imposters as opposed to those who through bloodlines carried the sacred blood that was/is essential to what the old world knew as fairies) – true priest/kings served the people. The people were their responsibility. Not their food supply. Our current elite are nothing but sick energy sucking pretenders.

Anyways, to address why I mentioned Bill – you cannot discount his experience nor his likely well of resources – I gave you guys one resource and there he makes many good points.

And sadly I forgot to mention the contrarian views here on the Avalon forum who made several good arguments as to a.) Drake possibly being played and/or b.) the wisdom in this course of action as it may likely lead to much bigger problems than we are hoping.

Anyways, I would love to eat Bill’s hat too, trust me… the state of just about every single thing on this planet is utterly disgusting and to think this is what we are handing to our kids…. ridiculous.

[Cilka]

Justoneman, yesterday you were a traitor, today you are a changed man, tomorrow you will be a liar, and the day after you may be a changed man again. We all change from day to day. If I had to count the many times I changed my mind over the 43 years, we would be talking about it for the next 43 years. It's all good, man!

[YvonneG]

I have tried to see how to get the free mailing Justoneman refers to and you can get it by emailing here and asking for free copy:

editor@worldaffairsbrief.com.

[xbusymom]

I don't see a way to get the article on David/Ben/Drake/The Plan anywhere on the site,

PLUS... the only way you can violate the copyright is to copy a written work verbatum... if it is altered even just 10% in the wording- it is not violating copyright laws...

so if you discuss it (in your own words) with someone you are safe...
and I agree with YvonneG, we should not have to pay (register with real name and other identifying info) just to get a free newsletter sample

[wynderer]

no, it's not 'all good', Cilka -- maybe for you-- nice full tummy? nice home to live in? no bombs dropping outside your window or your children being forced into being child soldiers? or child sex slaves?

Posted by Cilka (here)
Justoneman, yesterday you were a traitor, today you are a changed man, tomorrow you will be a liar, and the day after you may be a changed man again. We all change from day to day. If I had to count the many times I changed my mind over the 43 years, we would be talking about it for the next 43 years. It's all good, man!

[Cilka]

Posted by wynderer (here)
no, it's not 'all good', Cilka -- maybe for you-- nice full tummy? nice home to live in? no bombs dropping outside your window or your children being forced into being child soldiers? or child sex slaves?

Posted by Cilka (here)
Justoneman, yesterday you were a traitor, today you are a changed man, tomorrow you will be a liar, and the day after you may be a changed man again. We all change from day to day. If I had to count the many times I changed my mind over the 43 years, we would be talking about it for the next 43 years. It's all good, man!

Hey Wynderer, you just wrote in your last post that you were not going to answer to any of my posts. What happened here? Are you having a tantrum or something?

[aranuk]

Posted by Space_Ace (here)

Posted by seigiarchon (here)
If I can't defend my own castle, I would rather destroy it than to let it be used by my enemies.
The most dangerous men on earth are the men with nothing to lose.
99% of us have nothing to lose. Most of us are slaves of the systems subsisting on nothing.
Look at the starving Africans. Look at the millions of factory slaves in Asia churning out stuff for the West for less than minimum wages and impoverished working and living conditions.
So what if this Earth is destroyed in the process of evolution?
The only people with everything to lose are rich and the elite.
Poor people like us.. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain..
I can tell you right now.. Plans are being put in place for the entire human race to be changed into light-beings by the end of this year..
The only people who do not want humanity to be evolved into light-beings are the rich and elite who want a bloody slave race to carry out their factory work.

Great minds think alike. We need to get the ball rolling and move ahead with mass arrests. To not even attempt mass arrests would be rolling over and giving up without a fight in which we lose. If we try, we may win and if not, we won't go down without a fight! I am just worried that most souls won't be given a chance to decide if they want to ascend end of this year because they are being denied the truth. I know the truth and have already decided I want to ascend. I have almost no idea how to ascend and wonder what will happen to most humans end of this year. One more thing, we have divine intervention by positive ETs that will greatly increase the success of mass arrests and other plans.

Posted by wynderer (here)
wow -- once again i am amazed at how deep Earth Human denial can go...

Are you talking about us or the 95% of sheeple who are still brainwashed and close minded?

edit: If any hats get eaten, make them out of paper, wear them then show a youtube video of you removing the paper hat and eating it bite by bite. Should be funny to watch!

Hi space age, you are right on brother.


Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Speaking of Bill...why doesn't he 'drop in' to his own website much anymore...I rarely see a new post of his, and rarely see him on the board,
Is he no longer participating here ? I miss his input !

haven't you noticed that he comes in from time to time and delivers an opinion based on nothing but his hunches and takes off like the wind back to Equador.


Stan

[justoneman]

Posted by YvonneG (here)
Justoneman...how did you request the free mailing? Will subscribing do it?

thanks

subscribing asks for $48....

http://www.joelskousen.com/

in the first paragraph they say this - You can request a one-time free sample of the briefs by sending an email to editor@worldaffairsbrief.com.

At this point I see they have an updated Newsletter so I suggest you request the one that covered Drake, etc. That "brief" as they call it was dated April 20, 2012

the title is - Beware the Claims of “Drake” and Fulford

Let me know if that doesn't work.

It was not just that Bill is thumbs down on it - it is that Bill directed us to access this resource and the article raises good points and in many cases makes several compelling arguments its baloney.

I wanted to believe it could change - the US... in fact the world, but I have been under influence from negative ETs (as I have proven in other posts made elsewhere on this forum) and because of several posters showing me the light... I saw all the Drake stuff in a different light as well.

[YvonneG]

Posted by xbusymom (here)
I don't see a way to get the article on David/Ben/Drake/The Plan anywhere on the site,

PLUS... the only way you can violate the copyright is to copy a written work verbatum... if it is altered even just 10% in the wording- it is not violating copyright laws...

so if you discuss it (in your own words) with someone you are safe...
and I agree with YvonneG, we should not have to pay (register with real name and other identifying info) just to get a free newsletter sample

I have tried to see how to get the free mailing Justoneman refers to and you can get it by emailing here and asking for free copy:

editor@worldaffairsbrief.com.

[YvonneG]

Thanks Justoneman, I made another request. But you do realize if we can't get it now, we are never going to know what it says. If you get it for free and I can get it for free, why can't you PM it to some of us? I understand you not wanting to post publicly here and I agree. But if you PM it to us what they sent you for free and would send it to me or anyone else for free, what is wrong with that?

It is the only way that those of us who wish to respond to what you found and not just your feelings about it can do so properly.

thanks for responding though,
yvonne

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Yes I did notice this Stan.

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Speaking of Bill...why doesn't he 'drop in' to his own website much anymore...I rarely see a new post of his, and rarely see him on the board,
Is he no longer participating here ? I miss his input !

haven't you noticed that he comes in from time to time and delivers an opinion based on nothing but his hunches and takes off like the wind back to Equador.


Stan

[GoodeTXSG]

I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...

[bekrah]

I wouldn't call you a traitor. My personal views still favor Drake's credibility but it's good to have an open mind, even if the results might be disappointing. I will research the links and information you provided, thanks for putting it up.

[YvonneG]

I got the mailing that Justoneman is referring to. I am going to PM the pertinent part to whoever asks me. For now I am PMing to my friends, in case they want to take a look and we can comment on what it actually says.

[Kristin]

If we do not question what is before us... well, we are just not questioning.

From the Heart,
Wormhole

[YvonneG]

I think we are doing pretty good on this thread so far...I haven't seen anyone not respect Justoneman even if they disagree or whatever. So I think we are doing really well.

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I appreciate the post, I am going to tip toe through these threads for a little while with some of the heated responses from some reactionary minds that I have seen lately.

There are a lot of brave people here who are willing to put themselves out there. I hope they receive the respect they deserve and that people can disagree without being so personal and vicious and/or thin skinned.

This is a great site and I hope we can avoid the moral decay that some of the other sites have suffered from... like an earlier mentioned site ATS. I love you all. "Can't we all just get along" Sorry, had to borrow that...

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Honestly I'm with you. I'd absolutely love nothing better than to set it all down, and let someone else clean my house. Who wouldn't.

That's how not how we get freedom. We will get equally dependent on the house cleaners.

Hello 9eagle9.

Allow me to offer another perspective, using those ideas as a starting point.

I would agree if sentient beings had a real chance to clean their own house, knew how, and refused. Even if I (and my family) were among them, I would feel that our group lesson/karma was unlearned/unpaid.

Let me set this scene:

Hundreds of bleak, gaunt, starving people within the confines of a tall fence, with razor wire above. A prison camp. Resources are not really scarce, (guards and jailers are well fed, healthy, and well-equipped), but the keepers allocate resources to the prisoners as if scarcity was true. Deep despair from years of brainwashing, failed attempts to escape is rampant. A guy who appears to be a preacher or shaman, or maybe insane, imprisoned as well, walks among the prisoners, calmly, confidently, telling them - each of them - that they have the power to transcend the cage. They can break free simply by metaphysically refusing to be bound.

The starving prisoners shrug, some are annoyed and move away. They have heard this before, they are tired of hearing it. A few have listened, but no one has escaped. The hunger is deep, immediate, painful. Water is scarce, and what little is available is filthy. There is no indication that they will ever get out of this prison. As far as they know, none have gotten out - other than those who have died...

A few of the prisoners send whispers through the prison: they have a plan! A plan to escape! They have been working on the plan in secret, but now it is time that everyone knows, so that everyone will know the way to run when a section of fence comes down. There is still hunger, but, among some, a bit of hope. Other prisoners are convinced it will never work - whatever the plan is, it simply could not work. Still others believe they will all be severely punished when the plan fails, as they are certain it must. They add fear to their hunger...

A few prisoners know the "lay of the land", and have figured out a way to end the imprisonment of all. All can escape using this plan - those who suspect the plan will succeed, those desperate yet hopeful, and even those who are positive it will fail. The jailers will be jailed in the process (it is a brilliant plan, not just an escape) - it is also a guarantee that at least these jailers will not be able to ever do this again, to anyone.

Just as one woman among them is amazing with taking disparate scraps of food and making the meals more palatable, another woman is the best healer - the 'go to' person when there are scrapes and cuts and diarrhea - she knows the healing herbs among the weeds. There are other prisoners who are very strong physically, and are able to help out with the work so the weakest prisoners are not conspicuous. One man is amazing at capturing the dew, providing everyone with just a bit of the freshest, cleanest water in the camp. Within their equality, there is differentiation, there are honed skills. A few are strategists. They really do have the best chance of providing a strategy for escape. The plan will involve just a few of them - they have gotten closest to the guards, they have gained their trust...

Now, are the prisoners weak who would listen to the strategists? Maybe the preacher is a Christ-conscious Buddha, and is correct that the prisoners do indeed have the metaphysical power within themselves to escape. Even if it is true, can they all learn to do it? Should they tell the strategists - who have declared that there is a small window of time, and they are going to try within days - "no thank you, we're going to figure out how to do this using metaphysics!" Are the prisoners in danger of relying on the strategists forever, or will they learn enough about the strategy as it unfolds that they could lead another escape, if ever necessary again? What about the group using specific honed skills of a few to help the many? Isn't that merely wise use of willing human resource, ingenuity, and compassion? Or, is that the weakness of everyone, because none have mastered all the skills to be totally independent of the group?

Dennis

[Blueskywalking]

I searched the title of the "newsletter" referred to and found this link where "somebody" seems to have posted it.

http://www.libertyroundtable.com/con...9D-and-fulford

Maybe someone who has got a copy can confirm if this is in fact the one....?

* Post update *

Confirmed by YvonneG

[GoodeTXSG]

Posted by corson (here)
justoneman, you are not a traitor. you are a genuine person that has concerns for other peoples welfare. this is a good thing. we all want change, good change. but not at the expense of innocent lives. i understand where you are coming from. my thoughts are with you.
warmest regards, corson

Be true to YOUR SELF my friend. Not all of us are on the same page or share the same Truths... I respect you being true and open with yours. Stand strong and be proud that you are thinking for yourself and not being a follower! Like Corson said... you are NOT a traitor.