Feminism is a NWO agenda to split the families

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Neptun (here)
Unified Serenity,

It takes 2 to a tango. The moment you allow a man to be a man, then he will live up to it.

Same thing with when we men treat women like real women, they will treat us like real men back.

The biggest question is. Do you expect the mirror to change before you will change or do you change first?

Cute cliche's don't make you right Neptun. I think your whole thread has the feel of "Troll" to it. I am going to go about my normal forum business, and leave you to your soap box. You and whomever wants to kvetch about the issues of men and women can have at it without me. You see me through very jaded glasses, and there is no way I can affect your chosen social views.

[wynderer]

Hi Unified Serenity -- my bad -- i really didn't read all your post i commented on --just the end about passionate etc

on full reading -- & pls take all i say in the spirit of this is just what i have seen & experienced in my life -- i thought that your feeling that you have to be self-reliant & do all those hard-working things -- & i know that great feeling of having an in-shape body & all the enrgy it gives one --

it just seemed to me that this is part of the imbalance going on, & you have made the best of it

& i know that about women controlling so little of the wealth -- but there are far far worse things going on this planet at this time -- also i personally do not want wealth -- it comes at the expense of others in this world

i have known quite a few men in my time -- & have been in some 'relationships' [ they used to be called 'love affairs'] in which the men were very abusive to me -- sickness on both our sides -- but for the most part i have seen the best of men, & i like them

during the hey-day of feminism here in the States, i kept to myself my feelings & thoughts that i LIKED having a man take care of me & do all the hard work -- & they like doing that [the good ones ] -- a kind of win-win situation

it was not a good day for my marriage [since ended] when 'economics' forced me out into the workplace -- other women seemed to really get into it tho

in one of my posts here i mentioned going to the first Women's Lib gathering in Philly , when i came away wondering, 'Why do they want men's power?' -- i was in my early 20s & just learning about the gifts of spirituality unique to women

just my thoughts

wyn

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Men only have superior upper body strength if women don't develop themselves physically and if men do develop themselves physically it comes easier for them, but I am one of those women that I guess due to my athleticism put me in a whole different category. Most women do not put themselves into physically demanding jobs. Most women though if they wanted to could do most of the physical work that men do, but why bother when we will only be harassed by the men who feel threatened and be called unkind names for doing something we like. Hell, men still get paid more on average for doing the exact same work as women.

Oh, and here is another statistic, women own less than 1% of the land on earth. Men when out of sync spiritually take advantage of women and after enough time passed and we evolved enough societally that we decided not to be victims of male inferiority complexes, got jobs and had a means to ensure our later years would not be spent in utter poverty. It is a proven fact that when men get married their standard of living goes up and they are happier whole women's goes down. It is also true that in MOST divorce cases women end up in poverty and men do not. Not always of course, but most of the time. Men use the children as collateral to keep the woman from taking the marital assets. They threaten to sue for custody and the women not bearing the loss of her children give up everything if he will not press for custody. Some women are not good mothers and should never get custody, but most women will do all they can for their children. I am not against men and I am not a feminist. I can simply see that if people had done the right thing then the pendulum would not have swung so far our of balance.

It's just like the labor market. In the early 1900's had managers not been selfish greedy bastards then unions would not have been needed. Yet, eventually unions demanded too much and pushed to far and the businesses left, closed shop, moved to china or some other country where demands from labor were less.

A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.

A man without a woman is terribly horny.


I know very sexist on my part, and I was saying it tongue in cheek. I have been blessed with knowing a handful of very blessed couples where the balance was perfect and beautiful to witness. Sadly, I think all the men I would ever be attracted to are over 75 yrs old and come from a generation where men were honorable, protective, and appreciated a loving wife who did care for them and the family.

[panopticon]

Posted by Neptun (here)
panopticon,
You keep saying I didn't answer you. I did.
The moment you are ready to face your fears and want to take responsibility instead of blaming evil men and corporations, then we can continue.
But you are with all due respect, very good at bombardment others and keep repeating the same lie you believe yourself why you and women are victims. It is easier to feel like a victim than to take responsibility.
I don't care if you wish to continue to be a victim. It is your life not mine. The only one that is suffering is you.
Victim or freedom?

I am sorry Neptun. I didn't see your response.
Can you direct me to it so I can see please.
I'm not sure where it is.
Again, deepest apologies.

BTW it isn't bombardment when the information is relevant and supporting a position.
That is called evidence.
You ask questions and wanted evidence/example, I gave it, you seem to not like it. Simple.

Oh and I never said I was a victim. You are sorely mistaken there me ol' salt.
My partner laughed so hard when she heard that I thought she was going to pass out.
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[sdv]

I have been around for a few decades and more and have found that my ex was most attractive and desirable to me when he was feeling good about being a man, and vice versa.
I have been through the feminism battle for equal pay and promotion opportunities and belonged to an organisation (women only) to promote that in my industry (we won).
So somehow I managed to walk the line of fighting for and achieving equal rights for women at work and at the same time appreciating seeing my man strut his stuff as a man (shoulders back, head held high and a bit of a swagger in his step as he walked past my office always meant that he had just achieved some kind of goal he had set himself).
It is a line you have to walk but to choose one or the other side of the line, to me, is the compromise, not walking the line.

[panopticon]

Posted by sdv (here)
It is a line you have to walk but to choose one or the other side of the line, to me, is the compromise, not walking the line.

Well said sdv. As is commonly said in Australia: "you have to try to get the balance right".
Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[Neptun]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by Neptun (here)
Unified Serenity,

It takes 2 to a tango. The moment you allow a man to be a man, then he will live up to it.

Same thing with when we men treat women like real women, they will treat us like real men back.

The biggest question is. Do you expect the mirror to change before you will change or do you change first?

Cute cliche's don't make you right Neptun. I think your whole thread has the feel of "Troll" to it. I am going to go about my normal forum business, and leave you to your soap box. You and whomever wants to kvetch about the issues of men and women can have at it without me. You see me through very jaded glasses, and there is no way I can affect your chosen social views.

I don't care if you listen or not. It is your life.

It is a classic problem. Even the Bible says it:
"7 “Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. 2 You’ll receive the same judgment you give. Whatever you deal out will be dealt out to you. 3 Why do you see the splinter that’s in your brother’s or sister’s eye, but don’t notice the log in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother or sister, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when there’s a log in your eye? 5 You deceive yourself! First take the log out of your eye, and then you’ll see clearly to take the splinter out of your brother’s or sister’s eye. 6 Don’t give holy things to dogs, and don’t throw your pearls in front of pigs. They will stomp on the pearls, then turn around and attack you."

[wynderer]

thanks, Neptun -- i skimmed over the first bit & saved it for future perusal -- it seems i was being invited to join the political subnation -- having the right DNA helps to get the invite [smile]

i truly meant that i am weary of battle -- i have had quite a difficult time of it since refusing said invite -- & life was no bed of roses before that --

i believe that the whole yin/yang thing is extremely polarized in this 3D galaxy -- there may be parallel 3D universes/galaxies where this is not so -- i see weak/strong -- victor/victim -- conquerer/conquered as aspects of this polarization [ i like the male/female polarization tho -- perhaps all my French blood --'Vive la difference']

this polarization seems so primitive to me -- then i ask myself what is my standard of comparison -- & that's when memories begin to touch at the corners of my mind of a very different way of existing in this infinitely dimensional Universe -- & i get homesick

wyn

Posted by Neptun (here)
wynderer,

I think the reptilians have some good values like strength, power, not allowing to be dominated, understand life pushes us around and we have to learn from the experience instead of being a victim. Humans can learn allot from the reptilians.

The dark ones seem to hate the weak. In their world it is either slave or master and a slave has to be pushed around allot to get hardened and strong enough so he/she can be master one day.

It is interesting to speak with reptilians with love, caring, empathy, softness, not dominating them but not allowing to be dominated. They don't know how to handle it and they notice the power in it that overpower them without making them feel like a slave. They have a heavy amour and the softness goes right through and directly to their heart what makes them feel strong emotions.

I think they say it perfectly in their manipulation guide:
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/sw4qw/

The Artificial Womb
From the time a person leaves its mother's womb, its every effort is directed towards building, maintaining, and withdrawing into artificial wombs, various sorts of substitute protective devices or shells.

The objective of these artificial wombs is to provide a stable environment for both stable and unstable activity; to provide a shelter for the evolutionary processes of growth and maturity - i.e., survival; to provide security for freedom and to provide defensive protection for offensive activity.

This is equally true of both the general public and the elite. However, there is a definite difference in the way each of these classes go about the solution of problems.
The Political Structure of a Nation - Dependency
The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? the public? or the "godfather"?

This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.
Action/Offense
Most people want to be able to subdue and/or kill other human beings which disturb their daily lives, but they do not want to have to cope with the moral and religious issues which such an overt act on their part might raise. Therefore, they assign the dirty work to others (including their own children) so as to keep the blood off their hands. They rave about the humane treatment of animals and then sit down to a delicious hamburger from a whitewashed slaughterhouse down the street and out of sight. But even more hypocritical, they pay taxes to finance a professional association of hit men collectively called politicians, and then complain about corruption in government.
Responsibility
Again, most people want to be free to do the things (to explore, etc.) but they are afraid to fail.

The fear of failure is manifested in irresponsibility, and especially in delegating those personal responsibilities to others where success is uncertain or carries possible or created liabilities (law) which the person is not prepared to accept. They want authority (root word - "author"), but they will not accept responsibility or liability. So they hire politicians to face reality for them.
Summary
The people hire the politicians so that the people can:

obtain security without managing it.
obtain action without thinking about it.
inflict theft, injury, and death upon others without having to contemplate either life or death.
avoid responsibility for their own intentions.
obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves in the discipline of facing or learning either of these things.

They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to:

provide for the survival of the nation/womb.
prevent encroachment of anything upon the nation/womb.
destroy the enemy who threatens the nation/womb.
destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform for the sake of stability of the nation/womb.

Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police which are soldiers, the attorneys and C.P.A.s next who are spies and saboteurs (licensed), and the judges who shout orders and run the closed union military shop for whatever the market will bear. The generals are industrialists. The "presidential" level of commander-in-chief is shared by the international bankers. The people know that they have created this farce and financed it with their own taxes (consent), but they would rather knuckle under than be the hypocrite.

Thus, a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a docile sub-nation [great silent majority] and a political sub-nation. The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to detach itself and then devour its parent.

[Unified Serenity]

Hey Wyn,

I can completely understand where you are coming from. I think there was a terrible disservice done to women in creating the false idea that getting out and having a career and being able to do it all and have it all. It really is not possible to be a great home maker and a great career woman. The elites / socialists wanted to destroy the foundation of the family structure and get the children away from the influences of the family. They needed to disrupt the moral fabric of society, and that has been the constant mantra since the 1940's onward really. They took women into the workforce during the great war and women got used to doing other things and liked it. When the men came home they took the jobs back and that created a bit of an issue as well. I mean, women experienced "mens" work and realized that rivieting, welding, and construction were not as gosh darn hard as the men had made it out to be and they liked it and they liked making money.

So, push the women back into the small box, and deny them the opportunity for those who wanted it and thus a seed was planted, fertilized and watered. Then they pushed the sexual revolution and when birth control hit the market women could be just as sleezy as men and not feel responsible, but gosh those pills didn't always work and there were pregnancy issues and we got abortion on demand. I won't go into the disgusting butchering of millions of babies for convenience, but I will just say that it also was a seed planted about the value of children and family not being all it was cracked up to be. With the attack on virtue, sanctity of monogamy and honoring vows under full attack men dumped their old has been hag.... I mean wives and got a corvette and 24 yr old secretary. Women continued to fight for fair wages and the divide widened. Women suffered greatly from the 70's onward by being dumped after building a very successful marriage and all those assets to finding themselves living on beans and rice and trying to get a job at 50 yrs old to make ends meet while the husband is the vice-president of X division making 300k a year all because she was the foundation to provide the stable home life which gave him the credentials to move up in the company. Most companies did not like old bachelors. No, they wanted a respectable family man to promote and lead the workforce.

The women who were happy being a wife and mother, providing a warm and inviting home to live in watched all of this happen. Girls grew up seeing it happen. For those who did not experience the 60's - 80's it was a really hard time for women to try to find any sort of balance. Women fought for ever career advancement. For a woman to be taken seriously she had to be the best in her field. Now, I believe in always striving for being the best I can be, but quite frankly it's very hard to compete in a "man's" career field (often for much less money, but more than traditional women's jobs) and gain any respect. Women got so good at excelling that companies that were smart finally started hiring women because they would do the work of 5 men! This all came with a terrible price though. The family suffered, many women wanted to be stay at home wives and mothers, but men lost their trust. Most men have always worked and made their way, almost always with a wife at home helping them by doing the mundane chores of life. He did not call in sick to work to take care of child with a cold. No, his wife would take care of the children and let him be the star at work. Even today, with women and men working it is the woman who calls in sick to work to take care of a sick child or take them to the doctors etc.. She sacrifices more than the man. I am speaking in overall terms. We can all find examples that go against the norm. My point is, men still focus on career and their job comes before hers. Plus, the whole aspect of having a baby costs a woman in her career. It is very demanding to be pregnant and have a child. There is time off needed and sadly most women rush back to work because of money and fear of losing career options. The children pay the biggest price.

All of this is social programming. There have always been double standards with males vs. females. Young men could dally about and have sex and they were just "sewing their oats" and being a "stud". Women who dallied about were whores and ****s. There was the idea that good girls waited for marriage and virginity meant something. That pregnancy out of wedlock was akin to the Scarlet letter, and while men would sew their oats, they married the suitable girl next door who did not. She played her role and suffered for it. Men are now lashing back at the forced feminization of them and rightly so. Men should be who they are, but if they want to return to Mayberry then they must recognize that it comes with a cost of self sacrifice and honoring commitments. That adultery is not allowed if you want women to return to their accustomed roles which many did enjoy. That in doing that a social contract is made and there is no easy divorce. Do you want that risk? Do you want to be shackled to someone for the rest of your life who might be a complete bitch? I think we all know that answer, but then we are left with the dilemma.

Should women be sentenced to a life of poverty because she married and had a couple children, did not persue a career and is dumped for whatever reason by the husband? Is is anyone else's responsibility in society to pay for your deciding to have children? We have countries going bankrupt with their laws on maternity leave. Companies cannot hire a new worker to fill the empty desk of the woman on maternity leave or man joining her to bond with their child for six months or a year. Companies cannot afford to pay for both those on leave and those filling their seats and ever expect to make a profit. How can people afford to pay those not working so they can stay home with their baby? And now back to the earlier thread on the price hikes in the 60's and 70's. How in the hell did so many American's have the luxury of just the husband working, the mother staying home and taking care of the children and having a month's vacation time every year? This was not just for the upper middle class and upper class. This was a pretty common lifestyle in the 50's. How is it that we now have both parents working and barely making ends meet and they rarely get more than a weeks vacation?

This is all meant to keep us exhausted, busy, and destroy the family. Job well done Elites.

[Neptun]

panopticon

Sorry, you are a man, I thought you were a victimized feminist woman. You sound exactly like one. Maybe it is because you have copied your partners views and totally agree with her. Some men are extremely pleasing to their dominant women, that they become super feminists themselves.

[panopticon]

Posted by Neptun (here)
The moment you are ready to face your fears and want to take responsibility instead of blaming evil men and corporations, then we can continue.

Sorry, obviously you missed this information from August where it was proven that powerful corporation control the world's finances:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rld-s-finances

The report is a really interesting read and would remove any doubt from a reasonable persons mind (I have used this report on a number of occasions with a great deal of success) as to the fact that 'evil men and corporation' are in control of the world's finances. Using this information and viewed through the lens of the Money, Control and Power, their centralisation and consolidation "game" is relatively easy to see. Follow that with the various use of State internal legislation (SOPA) with multinational agreements (TRIPPS, ACTA) to tie it all together nicely and we have a fairly complete picture. There again: Why let the truth get in the way of a good story...
Regards,
Panopticon

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Posted by Neptun (here)
panopticon
Sorry, you are a man, I thought you were a victimized feminist woman. You sound exactly like one. Maybe it is because you have copied your partners views and totally agree with her. Some men are extremely pleasing to their dominant women, that they become super feminists themselves.

Hahahaha. Good one.
Still waiting for the link to your response regards the information supplied though.
Regards,
Panopticon

[wynderer]

LOL! in my one attempt at net dating, i was in communication w/a professor at John Jay College -- his former girlfriend -- 20 yrs together -- was a strong feminist -- the professor got very irritated w/the weakness of my feminism

Posted by Neptun (here)
panopticon

Sorry, you are a man, I thought you were a victimized feminist woman. You sound exactly like one. Maybe it is because you have copied your partners views and totally agree with her. Some men are extremely pleasing to their dominant women, that they become super feminists themselves.

[Neptun]

I will not waste my time and energy on arguments. I have stated what I mean and have no interest to convince anyone.

We are all responsible of our reality. If we like to lie to ourselves that others are the enemy- go ahead. Life will teach us with pain, if we are in disharmony. Often words don't teach.

[panopticon]

Posted by Neptun (here)
I will not waste my time and energy on arguments. I have stated what I mean and have no interest to convince anyone.
We are all responsible of our reality. If we like to lie to ourselves that others are the enemy- go ahead. Life will teach us with pain, if we are in disharmony. Often words don't teach.

Yeah that's what I thought. All strong and powerful but no bloody substance.
Resort to cryptic remarks about "disharmony" and the same tired old rhetoric.

Look bloke, I waited up to see where you'd responded to me before, it's after 1am and I've got about a hectare of gums trees to trim and split tomorrow so good luck with your "whateveritis".
Maybe you've found a sheila who reckons you're the ducks nuts where you are, but in Oz, bloke, you wouldn't last a bloody second.
Regards,
Panopticon

[Neptun]

panopticon,

Sorry for making you wait for my reply and disappoint you. I know am an evil man and you are a victim of my evilness.

If you ones again try to slip under my shoe, I will not stamp on you. You have to find someone else to wipe your sorry masochistic ass , so you can feel like a victim

You are an aggressive victim. No wonder your partner gets mad at you haha

Regards

The friendly Neptun(e)

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Neptun (here)
panopticon,

With all due respect. You are digging your own grave and supporting New World Order when you are allowing yourself to be manipulated by the New World Order movements.

You say I speak like a 1%. The occupy movement was funded by George Soros.
"George Soros Funds Occupy Wall Street"
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47009

The reason is to make class-warfare and steer the revolution energies into socialism. What is wrong with Socialism you might say. Socialism is what the Elite wants. Denmark is close to the utopia socialistic New World Order brave new world system, where we have a huge nanny state, pay one of worlds highest taxes and it treated like children by the state.

The Elite lost more or less control of the movement, when they began to focus on the central banks instead of the 1%.

Feminism is also a New World Order movement to be able to tax women and make them work too so the state is in control of the children to indoctrinate them.

Listen to the words of Mr. Rockefeller about feminism:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA

You are now being manipulated by 3 New World Order movements and it is affecting your thinking process, so you will support the New World Order instead of taking back your power.

I know if feels tempting to be a victim of evil men and corporations. But a victim will always be a victim and not take back your powers and become free.

Reality is a mirror of yourself and if you don't take responsibility, you will have lots of things to complain about and and feel miserable. It will only dragging your energy down and open up for parasites from another dimension to feed of your energy.

Your life, your choice.

Do you want to be a victim or stand up on your feet and take back your powers and take responsibility?

Thank you thank you thank you for this post and I will add that
A truely defeated and controlled person is one who has no interest in reconnecting with their own power and they have a zillion and a half excuses for not doing so. It is a pathetic situation to the supreme.

[Neptun]

Arrowwind

I agree. If we don't stop allowing to be fooled and manipulated, we will become victims and victims are in a hopeless situation and are suffering.

The Elite are not keeping us down. WE ARE THE POWERFUL ONES! WE ALLOW TO BE KEPT DOWN BY FREE WILL. The moment we say enough is enough. I'm sick and tired of allowing to be fooled and manipulated, is the moment we step into our powers and take back our powers.

I made this thread to help others train themselves to take responsibility and become powerful. I have done this my self for years and it works!

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...and-seek-truth

[the_vast_mystery]

Why do genders need to have roles? Does the idea of people honestly preferring to live in a way contrary to yours make you so frightened you feel the need to visit violent oppression on them? This whole "Feminism as an NWO" agenda is disinformation meant to make you look ridiculous. If you really care about families and stopping family-destroying-agendas you'd be supporting any loving, functional family unit whether or not it was composed of a stereotypical-working-male father and stereotypical stay-at-home-mother. The only way "feminism" is an NWO agenda is that it plays on your inherent cravings for safety and conformity by making you revolt at the idea of your gender traditions being changed. It was meant to make you hate someone who just wanted fair pay, fair work opportunities and a fair shot at self-determination in life, just like you, entirely because they were a woman and got vocal about it.

Does that mean there aren't provocateurs, that there aren't misandrists as well? Of course not! But by and large these are so far outside of the majority that they should not be taken as demonstrative of the wider culture of modern feminism. This entire ordeal though is meant to keep you separated and squabbling amongst yourselves while the money-masters laugh and profit off of your collective misery. Do you think biology really matters that much beyond the ability to preform a very small subset of physically intensive labor? What makes a family is love, families are important, what's missed is that hereditary biological relations are in no way a guarantor of a loving family and in many cases this dogmatic insistence on it traps more people in abusive situations until they give in and become abusive themselves to cope. It's keeping people caged in situations like this that allows horrors like spouse/child abuse to continue to propagate to this very day.

People don't need to play gender roles to have love, they do not need to be related to have love, they can simply fall into it just like everyone else does. If you want to not get flack for being hate-mongering on the issue I suggest thinking very very hard about how the mainstream world perceives you and take a moment to substantially address any concerns and separate out exactly what it is that you feel is being destroyed here in a way that does not implicate the hundreds of millions of women who just wanted their own freedom to decide their life instead of being shackled barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

[nearing]

Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
Why do genders need to have roles? Does the idea of people honestly preferring to live in a way contrary to yours make you so frightened you feel the need to visit violent oppression on them? This whole "Feminism as an NWO" agenda is disinformation meant to make you look ridiculous. If you really care about families and agendas you'd be supporting any loving, functional family unit whether or not it was composed of a stereotypical-working-male father and stereotypical stay-at-home-mother. The only way "feminism" is an NWO agenda is that it plays on your inherent cravings for safety and conformity by making you revolt at the idea of your gender traditions being changed. It was meant to make you hate someone who just wanted fair pay, fair work opportunities and a fair shot at self-determination in life, just like you, entirely because they were a woman and got vocal about it.

Does that mean there aren't provocateurs, that there aren't misandrists as well? Of course not! But by and large these are so far outside of the majority that they should not be taken as demonstrative of the wider culture of modern feminism. This entire ordeal though is meant to keep you separated and squabbling amongst yourselves while the money-masters laugh and profit off of your collective misery. Do you think biology really matters that much beyond the ability to preform a very small subset of physically intensive labor? What makes a family is love, families are important, what's missed is that hereditary biological relations are in no way a guarantor of a loving family and in many cases this dogmatic insistence on it traps more people in abusive situations until they give in and become abusive themselves to cope. It's keeping people caged in situations like this that allows horrors like spouse/child abuse to continue to propagate to this very day.

People don't need to play gender roles to have love, they do not need to be related to have love, they can simply fall into it just like everyone else does. If you want to not get flack for being hate-mongering on the issue I suggest thinking very very hard about how the mainstream world perceives you and take a moment to substantially address any concerns and separate out exactly what it is that you feel is being destroyed here in a way that does not implicate the hundreds of millions of women who just wanted their own freedom to decide their life instead of being shackled barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

Hallelujah!!!

[Maia Gabrial]

So, tell us Neptun what WOULD make you happy in all of this? In reading all of your comments, what seems to be prevalent are your insecurities showing....
What is the REAL reason for all of your resentment? Would you feel better if it went back to the way things were in the Dark Ages where men were men and women had to bow down to them? Is this the "power" you're talking about? Want to jail the feminists as punishment? How would you exert your brand of "power" in this matter? Your last comment sounded ominous...

Just remember that inequality was how all of this started in the first place. Women became easy marks for this kind of manipulation. One way or another they wanted equality. So, the balance shifted and the pendulum started swinging....

BTW I don't adhere to the Bible, so quoting from it doesn't impress me much....

Most of us have agreed with you that the Feminist movement is NWO. Everything was designed by TPTW to destroy every aspect of our society. They've ALMOST succeeded. Not quite....

But just so you know, when two people have agreed on how THEIR relationship will be, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it. WHY should that bother anyone? If a couple want to change roles, then who the h*ll has a say in that? It doesn't make either one less male or female because of it. You've been pretty critical of those who have tried to make the best they could out of the mess TPTW created..... I don't think I'll ever completely agree with you because of your anger and hatred towards the women who have been every bit manipulated dupes as everyone else. Alittle compassion and understanding please....
As I've said before, when the pendulum stops swinging, then it's in balance. This is what will happen to society once TPTW have gone from our lives....

[Neptun]

As I stated earlier. I don't want to argue or try to convince anyone.

I seek the truth and nothing but the truth. If people want to believe lies, allow to be manipulated and give up their powers to the NWO, that is their choice.

Don't let the vampire in, that is my advice! If people think it is not a vampire, but something cute and loving. So be it. Your life, your responsibility. Don't cry later and speak like a victim when reality kicks in.