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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    Quote Posted by cloud9 (here)
    Thanks Mat Hatter for the link to the thread of Galen Winsor but it seems nobody saw it yet, even Bill despite my comment about it in another thread after he said something about Fukushima too.

    Please people, take the time to see this video, ALL OF IT, even Bill Ryan should see it and then comment your thoughts, It's incredibly important.

    Now, I'd like to know if the members who follow this thread have information about the amount of people that have died in Japan due to radiation.

    I have to confess this is the first time I have visited this thread because I never thought there was any danger from the Japan tragedy.

    If what this man says is true (I believe it is) it only shows how powerful fear is, also it shows that even the experts believe what it has been given to them without any further investigation and so we have been deceived once more in a big way.

    Oh God, when it's going to end? (The lies)



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    Thankyou cloud9 and Madhatter for posting my thoughts exactly... And I to am blown away by the info in Galens video and eagerly awaiting more responses about it. I like Galen he seems like he's telling the truth and it makes sense, even at a couple of points in the film he stutters his breath like when you get that shiver when your talking about something really important.

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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    Is it not possible that what he ate wasn't radioactive at all?

    This video is pretty old, wouldn't another scientist (or more) like him have come out by now if what he is saying is true?

    Studies abound with prove of mutation and death from increased radiation in living organisms. Also the increase in cancer from an increased exposure over time.

    I just don't buy what he is saying, sorry.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    reactor core


    Cherenkov radiation.


    Nuclear reactor. the blue glow is the ionization of particles.

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    Thanks Houman nice pictures......The quote has just amused me.....
    Quote Nuclear reactor. the blue glow is the ionization of particles.
    I have been listening to Ion for the last couple of years and he says that Fuchishima is part of a bigger event
    as I put in a earlier post............and the Ionization proccess in the photo and the information from Ion
    is a ammusing if worrying coincidence !!!...LOL....Steve

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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    This is good news for the moment - but let us not forget that no permanent solution has been found.

    From http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120702a9.html

    Monday, July 2, 2012

    Cooling system fixed at Fukushima plant's No. 4 fuel pool

    Kyodo

    The cooling system for the No. 4 reactor's hazardous spent-fuel pool came back to life Sunday at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 power plant after emergency repairs succeeded, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

    The cooling system automatically shut down on Saturday for unknown reasons, allowing the water in the pool to reach 42.9 degrees Sunday. The pool must stay filled to prevent the used rods from burning up.

    The cooling system resumed shortly after 3 p.m. The temperature in the pool, which is sitting perilously atop the reactor in a heavily damaged building, was 33.3 degrees when the cooling system failed Saturday morning.

    The company believes a part in the cooling system's emergency power unit caused the shutdown and plans to replace it "soon."

    The pool contains 1,535 fuel assemblies — including 204 unused ones — that could all burn up if the remainder of the building collapses and dumps the water out. The same cooling system also was suspended on June 4.

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    Quote Posted by La Tigra (here)
    This is good news for the moment - but let us not forget that no permanent solution has been found.

    From http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120702a9.html

    Monday, July 2, 2012

    Cooling system fixed at Fukushima plant's No. 4 fuel pool

    Kyodo

    The cooling system for the No. 4 reactor's hazardous spent-fuel pool came back to life Sunday at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 power plant after emergency repairs succeeded, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.

    The cooling system automatically shut down on Saturday for unknown reasons, allowing the water in the pool to reach 42.9 degrees Sunday. The pool must stay filled to prevent the used rods from burning up.

    The cooling system resumed shortly after 3 p.m. The temperature in the pool, which is sitting perilously atop the reactor in a heavily damaged building, was 33.3 degrees when the cooling system failed Saturday morning.

    The company believes a part in the cooling system's emergency power unit caused the shutdown and plans to replace it "soon."

    The pool contains 1,535 fuel assemblies — including 204 unused ones — that could all burn up if the remainder of the building collapses and dumps the water out. The same cooling system also was suspended on June 4.
    It is very possible that the problems they are having and the reactor kind of going on and off is what this man explains here. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention or wrote down at what time he said it and it seems a natural reaction or at least explainable, meaning there's a known cause for it.

    Anyway, who is going to tell the japanese? Only if one of them was an avalonian...


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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

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    Quote Posted by La Tigra (here)
    This is good news for the moment - but let us not forget that no permanent solution has been found.

    From http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120702a9.html

    Anyway, who is going to tell the japanese? Only if one of them was an avalonian...
    Actually we do have at least one avelonian that is from Japan.

    article of interest: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0523170536.htm

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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    Incredibly Effective Protection from Fukushima Nuclear Radiation Effects

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    A special study conducted by Dr. Atsuo Yanagisawa, M.D., Ph.D., from the Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy (JCIT) took a group of men working on the Fukushima site and administered 25,000 mg (milligrams) or 25 grams of vitamin C as a pretreatment prior to half of the men entering the area. What you’re about to learn is that this measure of protection may be one of the best when dealing with nuclear radiation effects.


    A Solution to Fukushima’s Nuclear Radiation Effects

    After their hazardous work, thorough medical evaluations determined they were clear of DNA damage and precancerous indicators that would have otherwise occurred from the radiation. The untreated workers showed DNA damage and precancerous indicators, but they received a similar post treatment protocol for a couple of months and recovered completely.

    The Japanese College’s work and findings were supressed because TEPCO, the firm that owns the Fukushima plant, the Japanese government, and Japanese media all have ignored them and their science based advice.

    Their report was published in the States by a major orthomolecular (nutritional medicine) information center, Orhomolecular.org. The report covers the JCIT study with links to JCIT’s videos. Very few media outlets know of this report.

    Mega-dose vitamin C administered by IV (intravenously) gets more vitamin C into the bloodstream directly than orally administered C. Unfortunately it is difficult to find someone who will do IV C in the USA, thanks to our Medical Mafia. If you can find someone near you, it can be a bit pricey per treatment.

    But there is another solution that anyone can access with less cost, and it can be taken orally. Liposomal encapsulated C surpasses even IV C’s ability to penetrate your cells, where it is ultimately needed. So it takes considerably less liposomal encapsulated vitamin C to equal thousands of milligrams of IV C.


    The Alan Smith Story

    The poster guy for liposomal encapsulated vitamin C is New Zealand farmer, Alan Smith. After the hospital threatened to take him off life support while he was in a coma with double pneumonia and leukemia complications from a bout with the flu, Alan’s family pushed for mega-dose vitamin C administered intravenously.

    The vitamin C was administered for a couple of days, but doctors refused to continue even after Alan showed signs of improving. After the family got an attorney involved, the hospital resumed with much lower doses, going from 50 grams daily to two grams daily.

    After this happened, Alan’s family found out about a new vitamin C product called Lypo-Spheric. It is an orally consumed gel in packets that can be ordered online. The family brought packets into Alan’s hospital room after he could begin eating again. After six days of only six grams of the vitamin C, Alan walked out of the hospital.

    Alan Smith’s story was presented in New Zealand TV’s version of 60 Minutes. In the last few minutes of that presentation, you’ll see a still of Alan with those packets in his hospital room. Oh yeah, a year later Alan had no trace of leukemia.


    How Liposomal C Works and How You Can Make Your Own

    So how did six grams of oral C daily do the job of 50 grams daily of IV C? Dr. Tom Levy, a prominent orthomolecular physician with years of experience administering vitamin C intravenously was shocked to discover Lypo-Spheric was obtaining the same clinical results as mega-dose IV C. Dr. Levy came to realize that the combination of vitamin C and essential phospholipids radically improved cellular bioavailability.

    Tiny particles of vitamin C coated with phospholipids create molecules of vitamin C coated with a substance similar to the cell walls. Thus those coated vitamin C molecules can slip into the cells easily. Encapsulation also avoids diarrhea thresholds of normal oral C.

    You can even make your own liposomal encapsulated vitamin C. The homemade version is estimated to get around 60% of its vitamin C content into your body’s cells rather than 90%, but it’s more economical.

    There are two similar methods for making your own liposomal C: One here and the other here.

    I have no financial connections with Lypo-Spheric.


    Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/best-prote...#ixzz27fPfQbkt

    Edit: See also this post and this post <--- by Paul.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Edit: See also this post and this post <--- by Paul.
    Aha - thanks - saved me searching my past posts .

    I've made one change to my recipe since those posts. I use potassium bicarbonate rather than sodium bicarbonate (aka baking soda) to buffer the ascorbic acid.

    The following article discusses potassium bicarbonate: Diet, evolution and aging -- The pathophysiologic effects of the post-agricultural inversion of the potassium-to-sodium and base-to-chloride ratios in the human diet, by Frassetto L, Morris RC Jr, Sellmeyer DE, Todd K, Sebastian A. (pdf)

    I also consume about one tablespoon of potassium bicarbonate in my drinking water daily, along with some Himalayan pink salt, and Willard water.

    Yes - liposomal Vitamin C (and liposomal glutathione) continue to be my favorite "wonder drugs" for getting toxins out of the body, whether due to excess radiation, or in my case apparently old dental work while I await the dental appointment to pull those bad teeth.

    Oh - I've changed my dose from my earlier posts linked above, from a teaspoon of the liposomal at a time, in grapefruit juice, to a tablespoon at a time.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    [[...]

    I've made one change to my recipe since those posts. I use potassium bicarbonate rather than sodium bicarbonate (aka baking soda) to buffer the ascorbic acid.

    [...]
    Thanks for the the improved recipe!

    Any tips/links on where to find potassium bicarbonate?

    While on the subject of potassium, there is also this thread:

    Got Potassium? Maybe that is why you don't have glowing health!
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    Any tips/links on where to find potassium bicarbonate?
    Ah - yes - good question. Finding potassium bicarbonate is a bit tricky.

    It is used by wine makers to control the acidity of wine. They use potassium bicarbonate to reduce acidity, and calcium chloride to increase it.

    Try searching for "wine making potassium bicarbonate" products. Or you can take the short cut and go straight to my current favorite vendor for this: nuts.com
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    Default Ground Under Fukushima Unit Four Sinking, Structure on the Verge of Complete Collapse

    Ground Under Fukushima Unit Four Sinking, Structure on the Verge of Complete Collapse

    This could lead to a meltdown of reactor 4 which will cause a fire and will lead to the meltdown of the other reactors according to the Youtube clip translation.



    Via

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [snip]The video is limited on YouTube (i.e. only those with the URL can view it, and it's not Google-searchable). [snip]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJIEZvX4PZI
    Actually the video is now searchable in Google i have found.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    So the video says that considerations have been made to remove the spent fuel rods. Is this happening yet? It seems to me to be the only real solution. Load those workers with vitamin c and glutathione and send them in.

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    Load those workers with vitamin c and glutathione and send them in.
    Liposomal vitamin C and glutathione - two thumbs for my favorite two detoxifiers.

    (Sorry ... a bit off topic.)
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    Any tips/links on where to find potassium bicarbonate?
    Ah - yes - good question. Finding potassium bicarbonate is a bit tricky.

    It is used by wine makers to control the acidity of wine. They use potassium bicarbonate to reduce acidity, and calcium chloride to increase it.

    Try searching for "wine making potassium bicarbonate" products. Or you can take the short cut and go straight to my current favorite vendor for this: nuts.com
    You can get buffered C in pre blended formulations - likely from healthfood stores. The company I work for makes one; here is an example:
    http://www.aor.ca/html/products.php?id=91 -- likely there are several other companies making something similar.

    I can't get you any though, so don't ask.
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    I can't get you any though, so don't ask.
    That's ok - I make my own - liposomal buffered vitamin C. Search for posts by myself with the word "liposomal" for more details. I'm wandering a bit off topic here.

    My favorite ordinary powder, non-liposomal, vitamin C: C-Salts. It has a higher proportion of potassium ascorbate than most alternatives.
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    Load those workers with vitamin c and glutathione and send them in.
    Liposomal vitamin C and glutathione - two thumbs for my favorite two detoxifiers.

    (Sorry ... a bit off topic.)
    I recently started on MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) and a sustained release NAC (N-acetyl-l-cysteine). The MSM is to alleviate an organic sulfur inefficiency (which I now wholly believe everyone is either deficient or inefficient in), and the SR NAC (with the (r+) form of lipoic acid) for glutathione production.

    After about three months, I can see dramatic results already. My skin is in excellent shape - no more blemishes or blackheads or open pores AT ALL. My muscles feel stronger and I just seem to have a little more energy than previously. I also recently powered through a flu with minimal symptoms -- my immune system seems in tip top shape.
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    I can't get you any though, so don't ask.
    That's ok - I make my own - liposomal buffered vitamin C. Search for posts by myself with the word "liposomal" for more details. I'm wandering a bit off topic here.

    My favorite ordinary powder, non-liposomal, vitamin C: C-Salts. It has a higher proportion of potassium ascorbate than most alternatives.
    Liposomal is a better delivery anyway.


    Back on topic though:

    Does anyone know if there's been anyone getting sick or dying yet from the Fukishima radiation? Have there been any measurable effects yet on humans?
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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

    It all depends on who you read and who you believe. We will never get a straight answer, just like with Chernobyl

    14,000 here: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...4000-americans

    130 here: http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...lated-cancers/

    5 here: http://asiancorrespondent.com/53036/...ma-death-toll/

    the UN says 0 : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1540397.html

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    Default Re: FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTAN

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    It all depends on who you read and who you believe. We will never get a straight answer, just like with Chernobyl

    14,000 here: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed...4000-americans

    130 here: http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...lated-cancers/

    5 here: http://asiancorrespondent.com/53036/...ma-death-toll/

    the UN says 0 : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1540397.html

    14,000 in US but 0 in Japan? That means lies. Upon closer look at that article, some weird pseudo "non-statistics" were used to "derive" that number (i.e. accidental deaths and homicides directly contributed to those stats). It's a bit like saying "Penguin population was down by 500 in Antarctica the same year hurricane Katrina hit the southern USA, therefore Katrina killed 500 penguins. Only an idiot would even try to make a claim like that - it was clearly done for a sensation title to get mouse clicks only.

    Ok, so in other words there has been no ill effects directly related to the radiation of the reactor meltdowns? It's been 9 months now, surely the worst nuclear disaster on record is having some negative effects on human health. Why would there be no info? Would that be because the media and PTW don't want to scare us with this horrendous truth so they can control our actions further?

    Something seems amiss ... either that or the danger was blown out of proportion, or a "miracle" has happened (which I cannot rule out)
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